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Tantek Çelik  
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 More options Jul 23 2010, 4:21 pm
From: Tantek Çelik <tan...@cs.stanford.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:21:14 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 23 2010 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: Zawinsky principle of social software, "... is single", "... is in a relationship", which (new?) verb?
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Hi Christian,

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Christian Crumlish <x...@pobox.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Monica Keller <monica.kel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

>> So we would then need some new verbs "date", "marry", "break up",
>> "reconcile"... ok im being funny but yes that would follow the current
>> model we have with friend and follow.

> hmm, isn't there an ontology problem in trying to map out the contours of
> human relationships, especially at a meta-level like this?

In short no.

These kinds of questions were brought up with the launch of XFN seven
years ago, but they were all theoretical.  XFN is broadly implemented
web-wide today.

http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists

> is there some way
> to abstract a grammar for it so that different endpoints can share their
> possible relationship states and work within them?

Again I'd say no. "abstract" is the wrong approach.

Right approach: sample *actual* uses on sites like Facebook, and model
them or at least the 80% of such real world use cases.  Anything more
can be left to academic research and paper writing based on the
results of our implementations.

Let's solve the simple cases simply. Nothing more, nothing less.

Hi Nathan,

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Nathan <nat...@webr3.org> wrote:

> wouldn't you need to use URIs for that rather than just string literal
> verbs?

In AS, all verbs are URIs.  See (RTM)

http://activitystrea.ms/head/activity-schema.html#anchor4

Tantek

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