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Kevin Marks  
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 More options Jul 23 2010, 4:26 pm
From: Kevin Marks <kevinma...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:26:10 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 23 2010 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: Zawinsky principle of social software, "... is single", "... is in a relationship", which (new?) verb?
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Well, one that Facebook doesn't model is 'separated' (ie still legally
married, but divorce likely underway). I've had several people complain
about this to me...

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Tantek Çelik <tan...@cs.stanford.edu>wrote:

> Hi Christian,

> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Christian Crumlish <x...@pobox.com>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Monica Keller <monica.kel...@gmail.com

> > wrote:

> >> So we would then need some new verbs "date", "marry", "break up",
> >> "reconcile"... ok im being funny but yes that would follow the current
> >> model we have with friend and follow.

> > hmm, isn't there an ontology problem in trying to map out the contours of
> > human relationships, especially at a meta-level like this?

> In short no.

> These kinds of questions were brought up with the launch of XFN seven
> years ago, but they were all theoretical.  XFN is broadly implemented
> web-wide today.

> http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists

> > is there some way
> > to abstract a grammar for it so that different endpoints can share their
> > possible relationship states and work within them?

> Again I'd say no. "abstract" is the wrong approach.

> Right approach: sample *actual* uses on sites like Facebook, and model
> them or at least the 80% of such real world use cases.  Anything more
> can be left to academic research and paper writing based on the
> results of our implementations.

> Let's solve the simple cases simply. Nothing more, nothing less.

> Hi Nathan,

> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Nathan <nat...@webr3.org> wrote:

> > wouldn't you need to use URIs for that rather than just string literal
> > verbs?

> In AS, all verbs are URIs.  See (RTM)

> http://activitystrea.ms/head/activity-schema.html#anchor4

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