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Subject: Re: Have you experienced "node-works", but IP-address doesn't?
From: Dickster <dick.guer...@gmail.com>
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I only see one SNR reading.  My BearExtender device gives me most of
this information.  Here is what I got:

tropos_client_callback({
    "ClientInfo": {
        "SSID"                 : "GoogleWiFi",
        "Channel"              : "7",
        "BSSID"                : "00:0d:97:04:0c:e2",
        "SNR"                  : "28 dB",
        "Noise"                : "-91 dBm",
        "UplinkRate"           : "24 Mbps",
        "DownlinkRate"         : "24 Mbps",
        "ClientIPAddr"         : "64.9.239.247",
        "ClientMACAddr"        : "00:15:61:52:6B:90",
        "RouterLocation"       : "1573 Bonita Avenue",
        "RouterLatitude"       : "37.374964",
        "RouterLongitude"      : "-122.080237"
    }
})

What was interesting to me is that this response came from a node
further away than the one just 100 feet away on the corner of Drucilla
and Leona.  Bonita is several hundred feet away.  But none of this
helps me unless I get a bi-directional connection, both downlink and
uplink.  And that's essentially the problem, I don't get both.  Of
course, I have both right now, and still only see one SNR in the stats
above.  What gives?

On Feb 28, 8:06=A0pm, wifi4all <wifi4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Rajiv is correct -- there are 2 SNR readings -- because there are 2
> connections.
> (Read this article for more details: =A0http://www.svunwired.org/?p=3Dbas=
ics)
>
> The reading you can see in your home is the downlink -- from the outside
> node to your devices inside.
>
> I suspect that your issue is the uplink (from your devices to the outside
> node) connection. =A0Thus you are getting different results from differen=
t
> devices. =A0The link Rajiv gives below (...client.pl) will tell you the S=
NR
> reading on the node itself. =A0Thus, you can compare the different device=
s
> you have and their ability to reach the Google node outside.
>
> I hope this helps. =A0Let us know what readings you get.....
>
> WiFi4All
>
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:31:15 PM UTC-8, Rajiv wrote:
>
> > Try accessinghttp://192.168.168.168/client.plthat should give you
> > the strength of your signal. THis is once you are associated with the
> > google transmitter.
>
> > You should get something similar to what is below:
>
> > tropos_client_callback({
> > =A0 =A0 "ClientInfo": {
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "SSID" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : "GoogleWiFiSec=
ure",
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "Channel" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: "3",
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "BSSID" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: "xx:xx:xx:xx:x=
x:xx",
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "SNR" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: "33 dB",
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "Noise" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: "-87 dBm",
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "UplinkRate" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : "12 Mbps",
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "DownlinkRate" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : "36 Mbps",
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "ClientIPAddr" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : "64.x.x.x",
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "ClientMACAddr" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: "-----------------",
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "RouterLocation" =A0 =A0 =A0 : "..................",
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "RouterLatitude" =A0 =A0 =A0 : "37.........",
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "RouterLongitude" =A0 =A0 =A0: "-121......."
> > =A0 =A0 }
> > })
>
> > On Feb 28, 9:46 am, Dickster <dick.guer...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Here is some additional information directed at wifi4all. =A0I have
> > > another thread in this forum entitled "Service unavailable". =A0The
> > > situation there is similar to what is happening here. =A0In both case=
s,
> > > a particular WAN IP-address, obtained from the "node" on the corner
> > > light pole, does NOT communicate with Google in a complete bi-
> > > directional manner. =A0Wifi4all, in the Service unavailable thread,
> > > asked what my SNR was. =A0I asked them what SNR stood for, and got no
> > > reply. =A0However, I've come to believe that means "Signal to Noise
> > > Ratio". =A0My BearExtender device has a Link Status panel that shows
> > > dynamic bars that range from 0 to 100 percent. =A0They are "Link
> > > Quality" and "Signal Strength". =A0BOTH show 90% to 100% ranges over =
any
> > > particular period of time. =A0I've never seen lower than 90%. =A0Yet =
I've
> > > been attached to IP-addresses that will not communicated back to
> > > Google. =A0The browsers "time out" waiting for a response. =A0What's
> > > really strange is that I can switch to a different device (Airport or
> > > Ruckus) and get another IP-address that DOES communicate. =A0Sometime
> > > Airport or Ruckus don't response either. =A0It's like Russian Roulett=
e.
> > > If I switch back (reconnect) the device that failed, I get the same
> > > failing IP-address again, and it continues to fail. =A0If I disconnec=
t
> > > and wait an hour, and reconnect, I get a different IP-address, and
> > > normally that one WORKS. =A0But I hate having to play around with
> > > different devices to make a bi-directional connection. =A0I'm fairly
> > > sure the problem is in the modem pool at Google's end. =A0At my end,
> > > depending upon the IP-address assigned, I get success or failure
> > > totally dependent upon the random IP-address assigned. =A0My computer
> > > hasn't moved, and my devices (Airport, BearExtender, and Ruckus) are
> > > all in the same places all the time. =A0The light pole hasn't moved
> > > either. =A0I'd like to hear from wifi4all with an assessment of this
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