MOTM v huns

[rd_1903_afc]

Sponsors gave it to Young, but after watching the game again on TV today, I think Miller was by far our best player.

I keep saying that although he doesn't score sackloads of goals, he does a power of work in winning headers and retaining possession when it's hit long.

Good stuff big Lee!!

RD

[Iain McDonald]

Quite pleasing that the bright new hope hun centre back failed to pick up Miller for the goal.  Just watched him take up great position at front post. Gets funnier the more you replay it.

 

Very little said about that anywhere I have seen.

 

Expect him in the next Scotland squad…

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[Nigel Hird]

Personally I thought Kerr was exceptional for the 60 mins he was allowed on the park.

When I was walking down Merkland Rd and heard on the radio that Ifil was out, after just hearing Considine was already out, I feared the worst, but thought Mulgrew and Foster did well ,although once or twice Boyd could have driven a bus between them but thankfully for us, he was woeful on the day.

Some of our passing, especially out of defence, was a joy to behold.

Good to see McGhee putting it all in perspective though and saying we still have a long way to go. This time next year (we'll be millionaires?) I think we can crank it up a good few notches and have a right go at the Scum.

>>> "Iain McDonald" <Iain.M...@bigmouthmedia.com> 30/11/2009 13:28 >>>

Quite pleasing that the bright new hope hun centre back failed to pick
up Miller for the goal. Just watched him take up great position at
front post. Gets funnier the more you replay it.



Very little said about that anywhere I have seen.

Expect him in the next Scotland squad...

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Sponsors gave it to Young, but after watching the game again on TV
today, I think Miller was by far our best player.

I keep saying that although he doesn't score sackloads of goals, he does
a power of work in winning headers and retaining possession when it's
hit long.

Good stuff big Lee!!

RD





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[Justin Anderson]

I think the thing I enjoyed the most about Saturday was the composure and passing that we showed all over the park. We outpassed Rangers and were the better team. It was a joy to behold an Aberdeen team look confident and comfortable with the ball.

I always felt the success we had under the Jimmys was built on shaky ground and not a small amount of good fortune. It looks to me now like we're building a team who are getting more solid and playing decent, passing football - building solid foundations to grow from.

I was especially pleased for Young and Foster. They've both had a mountain of stick, but their attitude and commitment has always been good and they both produced on Saturday when called on.

Maguire is starting to look the part more and more, and Pawlett, Paton, Fyvie and Aluko are all genuinely exciting to watch.

Agree Kerr was great until Thomson decided we'd had our captain on the pitch for long enough. And from what I've heard of his refusal to go off when he cut his knee - brilliant attitude too!

Very happy Dandy today. :D

2009/11/30 Nigel Hird <NH...@aberdeencity.gov.uk>

[Nigel Hird]

Good point about Maguire, he's not really had much of a mention but his pace and ball retention were excellent on the day and he showed a confidence that has maybe been lacking up till now. Thought Duff did well too in the short time he was on.

Saturday's win gives McGhee huge options now all over the park, despite us having a threadbare squad. Even
if we have to go again with Mulgrew and Foster in the centre of defence at the weekend v the Tims, bring it on.

Good to see too that neither Aluko or McDonald can assume their selections when they comeback are automatic. Competition for places can only be a good thing.


>>> Justin Anderson <justinle...@googlemail.com> 30/11/2009 13:48 >>>

[David Maclennan]

The passing thing really was noticeable, how often did the Huns pass the ball out for an Aberdeen throw-in?

As for Maguire, I think the penny may finally have dropped for him.

It's quite possible he may have taken all of the comments JC made about him as being personal.

Now McGhee has come in and made almost the exact same comments about him, has it finally sunk in and made him realise what he has to do?

2009/11/30 Justin Anderson <justinle...@googlemail.com>

[Justin Anderson]

Yeah, the Rangers passing was woeful. I don't think Steve Davis completed a single pass in the first half! It seemed he either gave us the ball or put it out every time he touched it.

On the other hand, seeing us showing the compsure to keep the ball and pass it out of defence was delicious.

2009/11/30 David Maclennan <david.m...@gmail.com>

[tkni3...@aol.com]

We seem to have gone from a very threadbare squad to an abundance of very good young  and not so young players chomping at the bit the get a game each week. When they are all fit who do you leave out? Even Duff looking the part.

 

Perhaps McGhee was right not to bring in any new players in the summer, time will tell!

 

Still would like a couple of experienced players signed in January but certainly a lot happier about the way things are going than I was after the first game of the season.

 

TK

[Justin Anderson]

Speaking of signings, isn't Russell's contract at Sunderland up in the Summer?

2009/11/30 <tkni3...@aol.com>

[tkni3...@aol.com]

The amount of long balls the Huns played on Saturday you could have been forgiven in thinking that Jimmy Calderwood was their manager!

 

TK

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[rd_1903_afc]

Fingers crossed eh!!

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[Neil]

I'd agree Lee Miller had a fine game, in fact the best I've seen from him
this season, but Young still gets the nod for me. Saturday's defensive
output was the foundation that the win was built on. That Young - a forward
by trade - came into central midfield and controlled the game alongside Kerr
then Duff says enough.

Who'd have thought we'd be talking up Derek Young?

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[Iain McDonald]

No comments on the 'tic game then?

From what I've seen/read we were well beaten with a new formation.

I was at the Emirates instead. While the football is different (slower, better passing, less aggression, less atmosphere) Stoke offered nothing going forward at all and in some ways were probably just like the Dons were in Glasgow at the same time. When you watch MOTD you see highlights but when you see the whole game there is a lot of dross across the 90 minutes. Plus its £45 to get in and the mince pies are £4 each. I dunno if it was double the enjoyment of todders. Sometimes you feel happy enough with your lot in life...

[rd_1903_afc]

Wasn't at the match, but did catch most of the 1st half on some dodgy middle east channel on tinternet. I'd have to say that although we didn't pose much of a problem going forward, we did look comfortable on the ball and were defending well.

Unfortunately, we caught Celtic just when they are regaining some form, and in particular, after they swept aside a decent Israeli team a few days prior to meeting us.

I suspect McGhee wanted quite a wide formation, to try and stop them playing it side to side too much, but in retrospect, we got caught on the counter by what was in all admission, a great move by Celtic (although Mulgrew posted missing and Paton caught napping were my main grumbles). And then a couple of pieces of slack defending, one by Ifil in particular, the other by Considine. Could have been a lot worse, had it not been for some poor finishing from them and some great saves by Langfield.

To be honest, the heads went down after Ifil got his marching orders, for what was a really silly kick out. Dunno what the heck he was thinking of.

Young, for all the good he did against Rangers, was I feel, found out again. And Pawlett and Paton struggled to cope.

Beaten by the better team.... I don't think we should have many complaints. 3 out of 6 in a double header against the OF is nae bad.... I'll take that.

I'd stick Mulgrew back in central defence for this weekend. We seriously need 6 out of 6 in the next two games if we are to hang on to Hibs and Utd.

RD

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[Stephen Kain]

Was a complete and utter shambles on Saturday.  would have been forgiven thinking Calderwood was back on the bench with the formation we went with and with players out of position.  Taken apart big time and lucky to get away with 3-0 with Ifil producing a performance that Solberg would have struggled to keep up with he was that bad.  Then he lost plot and got himself sent off.
 
Boruc touched ball with his hands once in 90 minutes - complete joke. 
 
From one extreme to another after the great battling performance the week before that to what happened on Saturday.
 
Wasn't going to bother going but crumbled at last minute and wish i hadn't.  For first time in my life i left game early with the hundreds that left when third goal hit net it was that bad.

 
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[David Maclennan]

The game reminded me of "the patient died" game. In fact, I think it's the mist negative I have seen us at Parkhead

And I've been at every Aberdeen game there since Alex Miller's first visit in a Monday night game where Rowson pit us 1-0 up.

As for Ifil, I really do think we look more solid without him.

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[Nigel Hird]

McGhee is almost like Wattie Smith, inasmuch as it seems in some
quarters that we are not allowed to criticise him. He blethered on
Friday about the need for the players, on the back of the Rangers game,
to not let their performances drop against Celtic and think, "We'll,
we've already taken 3 more points than we thought we would in this Old
Form double header, so I'll just take it easy today" - then lines them
up, against the worst Celtic defence in decades, in a hugely defensive
formation.

McGhee is doing a hell of a lot right at AFC, but he's not above
criticism in my eyes for the gaffes he makes.






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[rd_1903_afc]

Fair enough.... let's highlight indiscretions NIgel. But what good does criticism do in this situation? Should we not just accept the fact that McGhee will make some errors of judgement along the way? He's obviously not SAF is he.

I just think that as Dons fans, we are always looking for an excuse to jump on the disaster express.... lurching from one crisis to another.

McGhee has a massive job on his hands to repair to papered over cracks that have been there for year before him.

RD

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[Iain McDonald]

But with recent success with seemingly finding a formation we can play with why change when going away to the team top of the league? We’ve played okay there in recent times so it seems a bit over-protective what happened but I’d imagine without Kerr the midfield would have been a bit powder puff.

 

Let’s hope that’s a lesson learnt.

Well supporter at work here says O’Brien is great at getting forward then mucks up final ball, making wrong decision way too often. Don’t we have enough players like that already??

 

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Fair enough.... let's highlight indiscretions NIgel. But what good does criticism do in this situation? Should we not just accept the fact that McGhee will make some errors of judgement along the way? He's obviously not SAF is he.

I just think that as Dons fans, we are always looking for an excuse to jump on the disaster express.... lurching from one crisis to another.

McGhee has a massive job on his hands to repair to papered over cracks that have been there for year before him.

RD

 

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McGhee is almost like Wattie Smith, inasmuch as it seems in some
quarters that we are not allowed to criticise him. He blethered on
Friday about the need for the players, on the back of the Rangers game,
to not let their performances drop against Celtic and think, "We'll,
we've already taken 3 more points than we thought we would in this Old
Form double header, so I'll just take it easy today"  - then lines them
up, against the worst Celtic defence in decades, in a hugely defensive
formation.

McGhee is doing a hell of a lot right at AFC, but he's not above
criticism in my eyes for the gaffes he makes.

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[Nigel Hird]

Spot on Iain, exactly the point I was making.

Rory, if you asked me my opinion of MM before the Rangers game, I'd have said I was pleased with the progress we are making. Even after successive losses to United and Hibs last month, I was still totally relaxed with our situation. Even if we finish 6th. or even in the bottom 6 this season, I'm happy in the knowledge that better days are ahead for us.

Let Dundee Utd have the glory of the heady heights (for them) of a 3rd or 4th place finish this season, because I'm convinced by next season we will be well down the right road, for the first time in years.

BUT, if MM f*cks up, then he gets both barrels from me. Saturday was a fine chance for us to take at least a point, and instead, he put out a side that made any JC line up look attacking. Strange.





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[David Maclennan]

I've no doubt at all that Mark Kerr was sorely missed in the centre of the park Iain.

I do agree with you though that it looked as if McGhee had finally found a system which was working and starting to get the best out of the players currently at his disposal.

Due to that, it's disappointing that the reason for changing the shape and way of playing was to try and surprise Celtic.

I'm also a bit disappointed to find out that Ifil wont be fined by the club for his utterly stupid sending off.

I'll close on a positive note, and congratulate Peter Pawlett on picking up the SPL Young Player of the Month award for November though.

2009/12/8 Iain McDonald <Iain.M...@bigmouthmedia.com>

[rd_1903_afc]

Yeah, yeah... if yer Auntie had baws she'd be yer uncle. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and it's very easy to say we should have gone 4-4-2 after the event. Who's to say that even with a more attack minded 4-4-2 we wouldn't have been ripped to shreds anyway? Indeed, did the first goal not come about from a counter attack after we had committed plenty of men up front? I assume that's where Mulgrew disappeared to as he was posted missing in defence.

Celtic when in form (which I think they are now in) are very difficult to play against, particularly with 56,000 fans behind them in an intimidating atmosphere (mostly). McGhee should not be one-dimensional and apply the same formation game after game. I want him to try and outsmart the opposition. Who's to say that had we not managed to get in to half time without conceding a goal, things may have turned out slightly different?

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[Stephen May]

After years of putting up with a linguistically challenged, and now out
of work, fool; a chronic alcoholic; a likeable buffoon; a complete
f_ucking idiot and Roy Aitken, I won't hear a word against Mark.


:-)