Quebecois are perfectly justified to be offended by Paul McCartney. Most Scots, Welsh, and Irish share the insult felt by Quebecois towards British (English) cultural imperialism
fraeauldb...@gmail.com
absolutely disgusting that Paul McCartney has the cheek to perform on
the Planes of Abraham. Talk about adding insult to injury and
glorifying centuries of British murder, rape, theft, plunder, forced
assimilation, dispossession, colonialism, imperialism, and attempted
genocide of both French Canadians and Aboriginals. The British brought
nothing but slavery, torture, death, destruction, and misery to the
countless millions upon millions of people from India to South Africa
who had the misfortune of being "civilized" by the British.
The thing that is unbelievable is all the ignorant, uneducated,
untraveled, unenlightened, low class, pedestrian level, racist,
sexist, bigoted, homophobic, anti-Quebecois, anti-French Canadian, gun
loving, tax hating, anti-bilingual, anti-multicultural, anti-
immigration, anti-abortion, anti-gay rights, anti-social programme,
American ass kissing, British ass kissing, vicious Cromwellian White
Anglo Saxon Protestant Redneck trailer trash on here who assume that
the words "Anglo" and "British" are interchangeable and
even monolithic. As a Scotsman, I can assure you idiots that the vast
majority of the Scots, Welsh, Irish, and even the Cornish who all fall
under the dubious label of "Anglo", "British", and "English speaking";
would totally understand and sympathize with the Quebecois in this
case.
The English (Anglo-Saxons) originally invaded, occupied, forcibly
assimilated, raped, plundered, pillaged, stole, and then annexed both
Wales (Celtic), Scotland (Celtic), and Ireland (Celtic) over the
course of several centuries; and in the process they treated the
native languages spoken by the Scottish, Welsh, and Irish with same
contempt and disdain as their decedents on these newsgroups do with
the French Canadian language. Most Scots, Welsh, and Irish hated and
detest the Monarchy, the Union Jack, British identity, and British
culture.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is quite
simply England other another name, as 85% of its overall population is
English and almost all British laws, culture, customs, traditions,
standards and norms are actually English. Furthermore, the former
British Empire is responsible for untold rape, slavery, theft,
dispossession, genocide, slaughter, segregation, torture, cruelty,
suffering, murder, colonialism, and imperialism all over the planet
for centuries.
There is also a sizable number of Quebecois who have Irish and
Scottish ancestry; and most people in Scotland, Wales, and Ireland
look upon Quebec with a certain fondness and shared suffering at the
hands of the English.
The separatist Scottish National Party (Scotland), Plaid Cymru
(Wales), and Sinn Fein (Ireland) have regular contact with the Parti
Quebecois (Quebec).
People in Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Quebec, and even Atlantic Canada
to a lesser degree tend to be
far more socialist and generally supportive of higher taxes, strong
social programs, gun control, strong
labour laws, strong environmental laws, and suspecious of American
culture and foreign policy.
Whereas people in England and Western Canada tend to be far more
economically and socially conservative, with a strong disdain for
taxes, trade unions, environmental laws, gun control, hate
crimes laws, ect. People in Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Quebec, and even
Atlantic Canada tend to
be mostly Celtic and Gallic; whereas people in England and Western
Canada tend to be mostly
Anglo-Saxon, German, Dutch, Nordic, and other Germanic ethnic groups.
Paul McCartney and the Beatles were also part of the "Second British
Invasion" which, while not in the form of invading armies, did cause
alot of damage to Canadian culture; a sentiment widely shared by
artists, painters, and poets in both English Canada and French Canada.
McCartney tells Quebec nationalists to smoke 'the pipes of peace'
Last Updated: Thursday, July 17, 2008 | 6:08 PM ET
CBC News
Paul McCartney is telling critics of his upcoming concert in Quebec
City to "smoke the pipes of peace."
In an interview with Radio-Canada, the former Beatle said he doesn't
understand Quebec nationalists who say his presence is out of place at
Quebec City's 400th birthday bash.
Paul McCartney is seen here in Las Vegas in June 2006, attending Love,
the Cirque du Soleil's Beatles-inspired show. (Associated Press)A
small group of sovereigntist artists and politicians publicly
criticized McCartney's free concert, arguing his presence is overly
"Canadianizing" the city's celebration.
McCartney said his free show on Sunday is about friendship, not
politics.
"I think it's time to smoke the pipes of peace, and to just put away
your hatchets," he said in the telephone interview. "I think it's a
show of friendship. I'm very friendly with the French people I know. I
know people of all nationalities."
His sovereigntist critics argue he shouldn't be playing such a
prominent show in Quebec City because it would be too reminiscent of
the battle between his native Britain and the French in Quebec in the
1750s.
McCartney said that logic means he should never visit Germany because
of the world wars that pitted Britain against Germany.
McCartney suggested wryly that it was time to let bygones go. "They
won," he said. "What are they moaning about? They won."
'Go watch a DVD or something'
"I wouldn't have minded if they lost. It's me that should be moaning,
right?" He pauses for several seconds. "I'm only kidding you know."
He said he doesn't pay much attention to naysayers, as a rule, and
thinks that "people who are just really nationalistic like that should
go watch a DVD or something."
McCartney said he’s been in similar situations in the past.
When the Beatles played Tokyo, Japan for the first time in 1966, he
said some people were up in arms about the band's choice of venue –
the Budokan – an arena originally built for martial arts.
“People sort of were saying ‘I’m going to commit suicide, they
shouldn’t be playing in there,’ you know. I mean, that didn’t last
long,” he recalled.
McCartney has never been to Quebec City but said he's looking forward
to his visit and hopes to take in some of the sights.
He said he's excited about playing with his band, and although he
wouldn't reveal what songs they will play, promised "plenty of hits in
there."
His hope is that people say "this was the best night of [their]
lives."
"I know I'm aiming high, but why not?" he said.
He also urged all "Quebeckians" to love him, and expressed his hope
that he and his band would "conquer Quebec this time."
He said he trusts his French lessons will help.
Organizers are expecting about 200,000 people for the open-air show on
the Plains of Abraham.
PQ leader backs away from colleagues' comments
Parti Québécois Leader Pauline Marois distanced herself from members
of her caucus who criticized McCartney.
In an interview with Quebec newspaper Le Soleil, Marois' assistant,
Marie Barrette, said the PQ leader was not aware of the open letter
until it was made public, and does not share her fellow party members'
opinions on McCartney's free show.
If Marois was going to be in town this weekend she would go see the
show, Barrette said.
PQ national assembly member Sylvain Gaudreault, who represents
Jonquière, is planning to attend the show, she said.
http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2008/07/17/qc-mccartney400th0717.html
Frae Auld Bob Peffers
Free Scotland from British imperialism!!!
Scottish National Party
http://www.snp.org
Scottish Socialist Party
http://www.scottishsocialistparty.org
Solidarity (Scotland's Socialist Movement)
http://www.solidarityscotland.org
Peter Otool
Do you know graveline ??
Kaltor
Tough luck, we got him for the 400 years of french prensence in American
soil. And guest what ! He spoke in french in his interview. We love him!!!!
"Force Majeure" <ForceM...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.22e9a7ff6...@news.individual.net...
> Peter Otool <xm5...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> bla bla bla bla ...
>>
>> Do you know graveline ??
>>
> I wish that I could attend the show. Except for business travel, I
> haven't
> been to Quebec City since the early 1990's when it was icy and I just
> about
> killed everybody in my way flying down Stoneham on skis like a bat out of
> Hell! Over and over the moguls I went! Legs akimbo!
>
Anne G
>>Tough luck, we got him for the 400 years of french prensence in American
>>soil. And guest what ! He spoke in french in his interview. We love him!!!!
> He is a great man. A pacifist, a billionaire, a creative genius and a man of
> the world. And he divorced the one-legged Pirate bitch called Heather!
> Even better!
Un truc surprenant, c'est que c'est les anglos qui discutent de ça, et
que nous on s'en tape.
Come quoi, quand on veut inventer un scandale de l'extérieur sur les soi
disant perversions de ceux qu'on ne connaît pas...
Peter Otool
T'es pas au courrant qu'un sombre sculpteur a été une lettre publié dans
un journal de montréal dénonçant la venue de McCartney à Québec, et
que cette lettre était co-signé par 3 députés du PQ ???
Meme normand Bratwaive a donné son opinion, lui aussi il est contre.
Fait que c'est pas juste du monde de l'extérieur du Québec qui en parle.
Et tant qu'a faire, ce sont les gens de Montréal qui chialent le plus
contre la presence le McCartney à Québec. Pas les gens de Québec. En
quoi ça les dérange ? Va savoir, mais peut-être, je dis bien peut-être
que les montréalais savent mieux que tout le monde ce qui est bien pour
le Québec.
Qui sait ....
Anne G
> Anne G wrote:
>> Un truc surprenant, c'est que c'est les anglos qui discutent de ça, et
>> que nous on s'en tape.
>> Come quoi, quand on veut inventer un scandale de l'extérieur sur les
>> soi disant perversions de ceux qu'on ne connaît pas...
> T'es pas au courrant qu'un sombre sculpteur a été une lettre publié dans
> un journal de montréal dénonçant la venue de McCartney à Québec, et que
> cette lettre était co-signé par 3 députés du PQ ???
Non. Mais à date, ça fait 4 personnes.
Sur les forms francophones, on ne lit rien. Et j'apprends ça de la plme
des anglos.
> Meme normand Bratwaive a donné son opinion, lui aussi il est contre.
Bon, ça fait 5.
Duncan Patton
fraeauldb...@gmail.com wrote:
> I don't blame the Quebecois from feeling offended. I think it is
> absolutely disgusting that Paul McCartney has the cheek to perform on
> the Planes of Abraham. Talk about adding insult to injury and
> glorifying centuries of British murder, rape, theft, plunder, forced
> assimilation, dispossession, colonialism, imperialism, and attempted
> genocide of both French Canadians and Aboriginals. The British brought
> nothing but slavery, torture, death, destruction, and misery to the
> countless millions upon millions of people from India to South Africa
> who had the misfortune of being "civilized" by the British.
>
WUT???
"Just another silly little love song..."
Dhu
Duncan Patton
"Michelle, ma belle,...."
Dhu
Anne G
> Anne G <ri...@nullepart.lala> wrote:
>>Un truc surprenant, c'est que c'est les anglos qui discutent de ça, et
>>que nous on s'en tape.
>>Come quoi, quand on veut inventer un scandale de l'extérieur sur les soi
>>disant perversions de ceux qu'on ne connaît pas...
> I agree. Inventing scandals like the one surrounding McCartney playing music
> in Quebec is perverse.
Il n'y a pas de scandale. Il y a 5 personnes qui ont trouvé ça con et
l'ont dit publiquement. On n'a pas demandé leur avis aux autres.
> At least it attracts attention. :)
L'attention des anglos.
Pas un mot dans les forums francophones.
catchme
>
> L'attention des anglos.
>
> Pas un mot dans les forums francophones.
ごめなさい。
和歌愛のフランス語。
--
To the States or any one of them, or any city of the States,
Resist much, obey little,
Once unquestioning obedience, once fully enslaved,
Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city of this earth,
ever after-ward resumes its liberty.
-Walt Whitman, 1860
Robert Pauz�
"Peter Otool" <xm5...@hotmail.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
R6qdnThgqbgTd-LV...@b2b2c.ca...
> Anne G wrote:
>> Force Majeure wrote:
>>> Kaltor <Ou...@ouin.com> wrote:
>>>> Tourlou Amigo,
>>
>>>> Tough luck, we got him for the 400 years of french prensence in
>>>> American soil. And guest what ! He spoke in french in his interview.
>>>> We love him!!!!
>>
>>> He is a great man. A pacifist, a billionaire, a creative genius and a
>>> man of the world. And he divorced the one-legged Pirate bitch called
>>> Heather!
>>
>>> Even better!
>>
>>
>> disant perversions de ceux qu'on ne conna�t pas...
>
> T'es pas au courrant qu'un sombre sculpteur a �t� une lettre publi� dans
> un journal de montr�al d�non�ant la venue de McCartney � Qu�bec, et que
> cette lettre �tait co-sign� par 3 d�put�s du PQ ???
>
> Meme normand Bratwaive a donn� son opinion, lui aussi il est contre.
> Fait que c'est pas juste du monde de l'ext�rieur du Qu�bec qui en parle.
> Et tant qu'a faire, ce sont les gens de Montr�al qui chialent le plus
> contre la presence le McCartney � Qu�bec. Pas les gens de Qu�bec. En quoi
> �a les d�range ? Va savoir, mais peut-�tre, je dis bien peut-�tre que les
> montr�alais savent mieux que tout le monde ce qui est bien pour le Qu�bec.
>
> Qui sait ....
________________________________________________________________________
Dis donc P�tair vous avez un probl�me � Qu�bec. Souffrez-vous du complexe de
pers�cution?
Quelques Montr�alais ont critiqu� et hops on rue dans les brancards �
Qu�bec. Tu sembles oublier qu'une grande partie de la foule sera
Montr�alaise. Pour une fois mets donc ta mentalit� de village de c�t� et
accepte donc qu'il y ait quelques individus qui soient contre.Que cette
opposition vienne de Montr�al semble aussi assez normal puisque c'est la
r�gion la plus populeuse donc la plus pr�sente dans les nouvelles. En
attendant bon spectacle pour dimanche.
Frank Arthur
You mean Quebecois are filled with hate for Brits? Show me one thing
Paul McCartney ever did to hurt Quebecois . On the other hand Paul
McCartney is offereing to bring joy, harmony & friendship to
Quebecois.
You must be a barbarian in your thinking!
<fraeauldb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e7dff90d-a5b5-42b4...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
Parti Qu�b�cois Leader Pauline Marois distanced herself from members
of her caucus who criticized McCartney.
In an interview with Quebec newspaper Le Soleil, Marois' assistant,
Marie Barrette, said the PQ leader was not aware of the open letter
until it was made public, and does not share her fellow party members'
opinions on McCartney's free show.
If Marois was going to be in town this weekend she would go see the
show, Barrette said.
PQ national assembly member Sylvain Gaudreault, who represents
Jonqui�re, is planning to attend the show, she said.
Paulo Feritto
"Anne G" <ri...@nullepart.lala> wrote in message
news:g5oop3$mfo$3...@registered.motzarella.org...
> Force Majeure wrote:
>> Kaltor <Ou...@ouin.com> wrote:
>>>Tourlou Amigo,
>
>>>Tough luck, we got him for the 400 years of french prensence in American
>>>soil. And guest what ! He spoke in french in his interview. We love
>>>him!!!!
>
>> He is a great man. A pacifist, a billionaire, a creative genius and a
>> man of the world. And he divorced the one-legged Pirate bitch called
>> Heather!
>
>> Even better!
>
> nous on s'en tape.
Renseignez-vous, ce sont des Qu�b�cois qui ont parti le bal des chialages.
Pierre Curzi, Normand Blackwaite sont des anglos?
Paulo Feritto
"Anne G" <ri...@nullepart.lala> wrote in message
> Force Majeure wrote:
>> At least it attracts attention. :)
>
> L'attention des anglos.
>
> Pas un mot dans les forums francophones.
Faux. Les m�dias francophones ont m�me fait des sondages.
Peter Otool
> "Peter Otool" <xm5...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> Anne G wrote:
>>> Force Majeure wrote:
>>>> Kaltor <Ou...@ouin.com> wrote:
>>>>> Tourlou Amigo,
>>>>> Tough luck, we got him for the 400 years of french prensence in
>>>>> American soil. And guest what ! He spoke in french in his interview.
>>>>> We love him!!!!
>>>> He is a great man. A pacifist, a billionaire, a creative genius and a
>>>> man of the world. And he divorced the one-legged Pirate bitch called
>>>> Heather!
>>>> Even better!
>>>
>>> disant perversions de ceux qu'on ne connaît pas...
>> T'es pas au courrant qu'un sombre sculpteur a été une lettre publié dans
>> un journal de montréal dénonçant la venue de McCartney à Québec, et que
>> cette lettre était co-signé par 3 députés du PQ ???
>>
>> Meme normand Bratwaive a donné son opinion, lui aussi il est contre.
>> Fait que c'est pas juste du monde de l'extérieur du Québec qui en parle.
>> Et tant qu'a faire, ce sont les gens de Montréal qui chialent le plus
>> contre la presence le McCartney à Québec. Pas les gens de Québec. En quoi
>> ça les dérange ? Va savoir, mais peut-être, je dis bien peut-être que les
>>
>> Qui sait ....
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Dis donc Pétair vous avez un problème à Québec. Souffrez-vous du complexe de
> persécution?
> Quelques Montréalais ont critiqué et hops on rue dans les brancards à
> Québec. Tu sembles oublier qu'une grande partie de la foule sera
> Montréalaise. Pour une fois mets donc ta mentalité de village de côté et
> région la plus populeuse donc la plus présente dans les nouvelles. En
>
>
Ont souffre d'aucun complexe, Bob. As-tu lu des commentaires de
journalistes de Québec voyant un danger pour la francophonie si Paul
vient chanter en anglais à Québec ???
Tu trouves que l'opposition vienne de Montréal normal parce qu'il y a
plus de gens ??? Mais les raisons de l'opposition sont tout a fait
RIDICULE. Mais quelque part tu as raisons, y'a plus de gens a Montréal,
donc forcément plus de cons.
Robert Pauzé
CQFD mon petit Pétair donc laisse tomber tes attaques puériles contre
Montréal puisque nous sommes trop de cons ici. Tu devrais avoir pitié de
notre incapacité à vous comprendre.
Robert Pauzé
CQFD mon petit Pétair donc laisse tomber tes attaques puériles contre
Peter Otool
croche, sinon c'est un signe de complexe. Montréal par contre à le droit
de dire n'importe quoi sur le reste de la planète, et ce, sans que
Montréal donne signe de complexe.
Mais la vrai vie, c'est que ça fonctionne dans les deux sens.
JAMAIS que je vais avoir pitié de toi. T'es trop "hot" pour ça.