NEW POLL: Liberals continue to surge nationally. Liberals skyrocket in vote rich Ontario and Quebec
Auld Bob
Last Updated: Thursday, June 11, 2009 | 6:01 AM ET
CBC News
Support for the Liberals continues to surge, although the federal
party would not be guaranteed a victory if an election were held
tomorrow, a new EKOS poll suggests.
The poll, commissioned for the CBC and released Thursday, suggests 35
per cent of Canadians would vote Liberal in an election while 30.3 per
cent would vote Conservative.
Leaders
"The Liberals certainly have better momentum right now," said EKOS
president Frank Graves. "But you can't say it's a sure bet."
He said neither party appears headed for a majority government; a
minority would be the most likely outcome of an election.
EKOS conducted the poll from May 29 to June 9, surveying 6,259
Canadians over the age of 18. The polling company conducted an
identical poll, with identical questions, between May 7 and May 28.
EKOS found that support for the Liberals grew since the earlier poll
while Conservative support has shrunk. In the first poll, the Liberals
had 33.5 per cent support while the Conservatives had 32.3.
Support for the NDP and Greens has remained steady, at 15.1 per cent
and 10.4 per cent, respectively. The Bloc Québécois has made some
gains, rising to 9.2 per cent in the current poll from 8.7 per cent in
the first poll.
"The Liberals are carving out a very small but significant lead,"
Graves said.
While the lead is small, it's a strong rally compared to the numbers
the Liberals had in October 2008 during the last federal election. At
that time, the Liberals were 12 points behind the Conservatives, but
in this current poll, the Liberals have an overall five-point
advantage.
The Raitt factor
As EKOS was conducting the current poll, the company noticed a rise in
Liberal support in the last three days of polling, with the Liberals
taking an eight-point advantage. The timing coincides with the release
of audiotapes on which Natural Resource Minister Lisa Raitt is
overheard calling the isotope crisis "sexy."
While those polled might have been swayed by the Conservative scandal,
Graves said the issue likely won't stick by the time voters go to the
polls. It has given the Liberals a short-term boost, but that might
not translate into long-term gains.
"It probably won't be a lasting ballot-booth issue," he said.
Gains in Ontario, Quebec
Much of the Liberals' support has come from Ontario and Quebec. In
Ontario, which accounts for 106 of 308 federal seats, the Liberals
have taken a nearly 11-point lead, gathering 42.6 per cent of support
compared to 31.8 per cent for the Conservatives.
In Quebec, Liberals are 20 points ahead, snagging 33.6 per cent of
support, compared to the Conservatives, with 13.2 per cent. The Bloc
leads the province, with 36.5 per cent.
Graves said the poll indicates the Liberals might have finally
recovered from the sponsorship scandal, which erupted in 2004 with the
release of Auditor General Sheila Fraser's report on the questionable
awarding of government advertising contracts to Liberal-friendly firms
in Quebec.
"The Liberals were obliterated by the sponsorship scandal, and it's
really taken this long for the Liberals to recover in Quebec."
Thursday's poll is one in a series to be released by CBCNews.ca in the
coming months. The margin of error for a sample this size is plus or
minus one percentage point, 19 times out of 20.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/06/10/poll-liberal-conservative-0611.html
kekpar
rich ontario and poor quebec
Canuck57
"kekpar" <kek...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 11 juin, 09:45, Auld Bob <fraeoldbobpeffers...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Federal Liberals continue to gain ground: poll
> Last Updated: Thursday, June 11, 2009 | 6:01 AM ET
> CBC News
>
> Support for the Liberals continues to surge, although the federal
> party would not be guaranteed a victory if an election were held
> tomorrow, a new EKOS poll suggests.
>
> The poll, commissioned for the CBC and released Thursday, suggests 35
> per cent of Canadians would vote Liberal in an election while 30.3 per
> cent would vote Conservative.
>
> Leaders
>
> "The Liberals certainly have better momentum right now," said EKOS
> president Frank Graves. "But you can't say it's a sure bet."
>
> He said neither party appears headed for a majority government; a
> minority would be the most likely outcome of an election.
>
> EKOS conducted the poll from May 29 to June 9, surveying 6,259
> Canadians over the age of 18. The polling company conducted an
> identical poll, with identical questions, between May 7 and May 28.
>
> EKOS found that support for the Liberals grew since the earlier poll
> while Conservative support has shrunk. In the first poll, the Liberals
> had 33.5 per cent support while the Conservatives had 32.3.
>
> Support for the NDP and Greens has remained steady, at 15.1 per cent
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Actually, Liberals & NDP in Ontario made sure both were broke. Both owe
about $175 billion each and neither are having a easy time raising debt
moneys as their credit rating is zero.
They both be poor detitute debtor provinces living well beyond their means.
Now the westerners pay for it. Good little tax colonies.
kekpar
maybe
Roedy Green
<fraeoldbob...@gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
someone who said :
>Support for the Liberals continues to surge, although the federal
>party would not be guaranteed a victory if an election were held
>tomorrow, a new EKOS poll suggests.
Why? Harper lost huge ground by lying about the deficit. It makes it
look as if he has no clue. He would have easily weathered the problem
(just as Obama is) by telling the truth from the outset or even from
exaggerating it slightly then announcing some good news.
This Chalk River debacle has me hopping. I was furious when Harper
overrode the experts and refused to let Chalk River perform routine
maintenance. No politician should be making that sort of call. It HAS
to be decided by the best trained experts. It was an arrogant,
foolish, bone-headed thing to do. Now we are in a much bigger pickle
because of that incompetent asshole.
Harper is Inspector Clouseau in the nuclear plant.
We are blowing a bundle on stimulus, but how are we spending it?
1. on green projects, NOPE
2. on alternative energy, NOPE
3. to help people who lost their jobs, NOPE
We are giving in to relatively wealthy people who own their own homes
to put in decks, get a hot tub, get new kitchen cupboards and toss out
perfectly good ones that are a year or two out of style.
It is outrageous. I could spit in his face.
--
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com
If everyone lived the way people do in Vancouver, we would need three more entire planets to support us.
~ Guy Dauncey
Serge Diamond
Finally, the Liberals have someone who "looks" clean enough to vote for.
Len McLaughlin
On 13 juin, 09:56, "Canuck57" <f...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "kekpar" <kek...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b197c860-d1a7-47c8...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On 11 juin, 09:45, Auld Bob <fraeoldbobpeffers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Federal Liberals continue to gain ground: poll
> > Last Updated: Thursday, June 11, 2009 | 6:01 AM ET
> > CBC News
>
Third world support for the Liberals soaring in Ontario?
Serge Diamond
> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:37:21 -0400, Serge Diamond
> <sd.di...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>> Finally, the Liberals have someone who "looks" clean enough to vote for.
>
>
> living in cloud cuckoo land.
Martin was clean too, but making him the leader was like putting a
cherry on
a pile of shit and calling it a chocolate sundae.
>
kekpar
> "kekpar" <kek...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:babd4d02-6fd4-4ebe...@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On 13 juin, 09:56, "Canuck57" <f...@nospam.com> wrote:> "kekpar" <kek...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:b197c860-d1a7-47c8...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> > On 11 juin, 09:45, Auld Bob <fraeoldbobpeffers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Federal Liberals continue to gain ground: poll
> > > Last Updated: Thursday, June 11, 2009 | 6:01 AM ET
> > > CBC News
>
> =====================
> Third world support for the Liberals soaring in Ontario?
hum... I think so
Scotius
>Federal Liberals continue to gain ground: poll
" NEW POLL: Liberals continue to surge nationally. Liberals
skyrocket in vote rich Ontario and Quebec"
Translation:
"I wish ' NEW POLL: Liberals continue to surge nationally.
Liberals skyrocket in vote rich Ontario and Quebec'...and that's
about all I can do".
>Last Updated: Thursday, June 11, 2009 | 6:01 AM ET
>CBC News
>
>Support for the Liberals continues to surge, although the federal
>party would not be guaranteed a victory if an election were held
>tomorrow, a new EKOS poll suggests.
>
>The poll, commissioned for the CBC and released Thursday, suggests 35
>per cent of Canadians would vote Liberal in an election while 30.3 per
>cent would vote Conservative.
>
>Leaders
>
>"The Liberals certainly have better momentum right now," said EKOS
>president Frank Graves. "But you can't say it's a sure bet."
>
>He said neither party appears headed for a majority government; a
>minority would be the most likely outcome of an election.
>
>EKOS conducted the poll from May 29 to June 9, surveying 6,259
>Canadians over the age of 18. The polling company conducted an
>identical poll, with identical questions, between May 7 and May 28.
>
>EKOS found that support for the Liberals grew since the earlier poll
>while Conservative support has shrunk. In the first poll, the Liberals
>had 33.5 per cent support while the Conservatives had 32.3.
>
>Support for the NDP and Greens has remained steady, at 15.1 per cent
>and 10.4 per cent, respectively. The Bloc Qu�b�cois has made some
x
>
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Auld Bob
> <fraeoldbob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Federal Liberals continue to gain ground: poll
>
> " NEW POLL: Liberals continue to surge nationally. Liberals
> skyrocket in vote rich Ontario and Quebec"
>
> Translation:
>
> "I wish ' NEW POLL: Liberals continue to surge nationally.
> Liberals skyrocket in vote rich Ontario and Quebec'...and that's
> about all I can do".
>
It's going to be a long time until Canada elects a majority to the extent of
Jean Chretien in 1993, or Brian Mulroney in 1994.
Quote all the polls that you want. It just isn't going to happen in the near
future. Statistically, they're in a deadlock. Accounting for the standard
3% plus / minus of accuracy.
x
> It's going to be a long time until Canada elects a majority to the extent of
> Jean Chretien in 1993, or Brian Mulroney in 1994.
>
> Quote all the polls that you want. It just isn't going to happen in the near
> future. Statistically, they're in a deadlock. Accounting for the standard
> 3% plus / minus of accuracy.
>
Mulroney? Sorry. I meant 1984. An outstanding majority.