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JAL
May 20, 2012, 10:50:19 AM5/20/12
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More and more Canadians are becoming aware of the open hatred for
Moslems in the US through American TV channels. Should Canada follow
the Americans in this? Canada is a much different social climate than
the US. We have not permitted the same proliferation of hand guns in
the general population as the Americans have. We have allowed many
religious to immigrate and freely practice their faith in this
country. Knowing a little bit more about Moslems might help us resist
American hate mongering in this area.
When we think of Moslems, most Canadians think of Arabs in their
traditional head gear or we think about the never ending conflict
between Jews and Moslems in the Middle East. That is not our conflict
and Islam is much more than the Middle East. Indonesia has the largest
Moslem population on the planet and women don’t cover their face
there. Malaysia is a larger Islamic finance center than Dubai.
Last year while vacationing in Jakarta, I visited a massive Roman
Catholic cathedral as opulent as any found in Italy. Across the street
from the cathedral lies the largest Mosque in Indonesia. I followed
the people into this Mosque for noon prayers. We took off our shoes,
gave them to an attendant who gave us a number and then washed our
feet, before going upstairs to a room as large as a football field.
I had only just entered the chamber when an attendant in a green
jacket came up to me and asked, “Are you Moslem?” When I said, “No”,
he said to follow him. He led me right up front and placed me in a row
of men. Before leaving he said, “Follow them and do what they do.”
Noon prayers lasted half an hour. On the way out he waved and asked,
“What religion?” When I replied Catholic, he put his palms together
and said, “Ah Roma!” with a smile.
JL 20-05-2012
Moslems in the US through American TV channels. Should Canada follow
the Americans in this? Canada is a much different social climate than
the US. We have not permitted the same proliferation of hand guns in
the general population as the Americans have. We have allowed many
religious to immigrate and freely practice their faith in this
country. Knowing a little bit more about Moslems might help us resist
American hate mongering in this area.
When we think of Moslems, most Canadians think of Arabs in their
traditional head gear or we think about the never ending conflict
between Jews and Moslems in the Middle East. That is not our conflict
and Islam is much more than the Middle East. Indonesia has the largest
Moslem population on the planet and women don’t cover their face
there. Malaysia is a larger Islamic finance center than Dubai.
Last year while vacationing in Jakarta, I visited a massive Roman
Catholic cathedral as opulent as any found in Italy. Across the street
from the cathedral lies the largest Mosque in Indonesia. I followed
the people into this Mosque for noon prayers. We took off our shoes,
gave them to an attendant who gave us a number and then washed our
feet, before going upstairs to a room as large as a football field.
I had only just entered the chamber when an attendant in a green
jacket came up to me and asked, “Are you Moslem?” When I said, “No”,
he said to follow him. He led me right up front and placed me in a row
of men. Before leaving he said, “Follow them and do what they do.”
Noon prayers lasted half an hour. On the way out he waved and asked,
“What religion?” When I replied Catholic, he put his palms together
and said, “Ah Roma!” with a smile.
JL 20-05-2012
gordo
May 20, 2012, 1:03:56 PM5/20/12
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Chom Noamsky
May 20, 2012, 1:51:02 PM5/20/12
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when any cultural community openly promotes hatred for another they
should be exposed, challenged and corrected. Some Islamic communities
in Canada have been openly promoting prejudice and bias against
non-Muslims, and this goes dead against the principles of multiculturalism.
The last thing we need is Canada turning into another battleground for
ages-old cultural pissing matches, like Muslim versus Jew. We need to
do whatever it takes to keep that shit out of Canada, even if it means
abandoning multiculturalism and returning to 'cultural melting pot' policy.
gordo
May 20, 2012, 5:32:31 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 10:51:02 -0700, Chom Noamsky <ch...@noamsky.here>
wrote:
What cultural melting pot are you telling us we should be? How about
Inuit, First Nations, French, English, Metis? I think the Cree culture
might be interesting. They might just put the rest of us in
residential schools so we can lose our other stupid cultures .
We do have laws against preaching hatred and they have been
responsible in sending Jew haters back to Germany. The fact of
extremes in Canada is not new. There are the neo nazis , skinheads
etc. and we do not tolerate them. We have a great country and the last
thing we need is more hatred.
wrote:
Inuit, First Nations, French, English, Metis? I think the Cree culture
might be interesting. They might just put the rest of us in
residential schools so we can lose our other stupid cultures .
We do have laws against preaching hatred and they have been
responsible in sending Jew haters back to Germany. The fact of
extremes in Canada is not new. There are the neo nazis , skinheads
etc. and we do not tolerate them. We have a great country and the last
thing we need is more hatred.
Archie
May 20, 2012, 5:56:09 PM5/20/12
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Biff Wrote:
>
> What Canadians must do is enforce the laws and values of our land, i.e.,
> when any cultural community openly promotes hatred for another they
> should be exposed, challenged and corrected.
Coming from the imbecile that promotes hatred on a daily basis.
>
> What Canadians must do is enforce the laws and values of our land, i.e.,
> when any cultural community openly promotes hatred for another they
> should be exposed, challenged and corrected.
It's not so easy to correct weasel pricks like you. You're too fucking
dense.
Unknown
May 20, 2012, 6:07:32 PM5/20/12
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Kim Dobranski aka "Chom Noamsky" <ch...@noamsky.here> wrote in message
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Subject: Re: My Favourite "Chom Noamsky" Quote
Chom Noamsky <blahb...@blahblahblah.com>
Islamism is a sickness and perversion of humanity that must be eradicated, like AIDS.
Re: My Favourite "Chom Noamsky" Quote
Chom Noamsky <blahb...@blahblahblah.com>
Islamism is a sickness and perversion of humanity that must be eradicated, like AIDS.
_________________________________________
From: Chom Noamsky blahb...@blabbity.blah
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,can.politics,rec.arts.tv,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Tourist arrested for giving Heil Hitler! salute in holiday photo outside Reichstag
The correct phrase is "c'est fatigant du copier et coller".
Stupid illiterate frogs.
__________________________________________
From: Chom Noamsky <blahb...@blahblahblah.com>
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: If Americans Knew
Yup. Jews grabbed a chunk of territory for themselves with the intent
of creating a society not ruled by tyrannical Islamic fascism.
Expulsion of Arab Muslims was necessary for that ideal and I support
that 100%. I feel not in the least bit sympathetic for displaced Arabs
because they are themselves invaders of territory... Persia, Azerbaijan,
Armenia, Palestine... just to name a few. Iran was also invaded by Arabs.
________________________________________________
Just a small example of YOUR bigotry, Dobranski . . . .
Still think that "when any cultural community openly promotes hatred for another they
> should be exposed, challenged and corrected." ?
news:jpbau9$qgv$1...@dont-email.me...
> What Canadians must do is enforce the laws and values of our land, i.e., when any cultural
> community openly promotes hatred for another they should be exposed, challenged and
> corrected.
This yours, Dobranski?
> community openly promotes hatred for another they should be exposed, challenged and
> corrected.
________________________________
Subject: Re: My Favourite "Chom Noamsky" Quote
Chom Noamsky <blahb...@blahblahblah.com>
Islamism is a sickness and perversion of humanity that must be eradicated, like AIDS.
Re: My Favourite "Chom Noamsky" Quote
Chom Noamsky <blahb...@blahblahblah.com>
Islamism is a sickness and perversion of humanity that must be eradicated, like AIDS.
_________________________________________
From: Chom Noamsky blahb...@blabbity.blah
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,can.politics,rec.arts.tv,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Tourist arrested for giving Heil Hitler! salute in holiday photo outside Reichstag
The correct phrase is "c'est fatigant du copier et coller".
Stupid illiterate frogs.
__________________________________________
From: Chom Noamsky <blahb...@blahblahblah.com>
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: If Americans Knew
Yup. Jews grabbed a chunk of territory for themselves with the intent
of creating a society not ruled by tyrannical Islamic fascism.
Expulsion of Arab Muslims was necessary for that ideal and I support
that 100%. I feel not in the least bit sympathetic for displaced Arabs
because they are themselves invaders of territory... Persia, Azerbaijan,
Armenia, Palestine... just to name a few. Iran was also invaded by Arabs.
________________________________________________
Just a small example of YOUR bigotry, Dobranski . . . .
Still think that "when any cultural community openly promotes hatred for another they
> should be exposed, challenged and corrected." ?
Canuck57
May 20, 2012, 8:29:44 PM5/20/12
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On 20/05/2012 8:50 AM, JAL wrote:
> More and more Canadians are becoming aware of the open hatred for
> Moslems in the US through American TV channels.
It isn't so much as hate for Muslims, as a hate of the Islamic
> More and more Canadians are becoming aware of the open hatred for
> Moslems in the US through American TV channels.
traditional culture of infiltration, intolerance and subversion of
others. Violence and death always follows in the wake of Islam.
Until Islam followers learn respect for others, none of this infidel
crap, they are not suitable of respect towards them.
Muslims will get my respect when I see in action and not in words:
- a respect and support for equality and democracy.
- a respect that common law and not Sharia biased law rules.
- an acceptance of others as equals, including jewish/buddhist/atheists
or whatever people.
- no more discrimination against women (or others) and this honor
killing and beat the wife in the name of Islam crap. Overtly spurn on
it as a crime that it is and not the silent support we see today.
- acknowledge womens rights to be without Hijabs and to attend
universities. If you send the boy, should also send the girl to school.
- lose any other medieval backwards ideas, this is the 2012.
- stop the passive resistance, infiltration crap like trying to get
Sharia laws in Canada.
- stop sending money overseas, turn in criminals, no passive support for
such.
It is the behavior and dysfunction we hate.
Not wise enough to see why our society is better than where they came
from, it is about values, work ethic and culture. Muslims need to find
a blend that better fits alongside other cultures.
--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing but debt and discontentment.
Canuck57
May 20, 2012, 8:55:30 PM5/20/12
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Fact is every generation gets a slave tax because of First Nations. A
baby in the womb is born with this like slave.
Our Charter of Rights and Freedoms is a worthless document as it can't
make the basic of all rights for a civil fair society. That being:
All peoples should be treated equally under the governance, laws,
taxation and benefits of such. NO EXCEPTIONS.
As one person/groups preference is in fact discrimination against
another. Just cleverly hidden as preference doesn't mean it isn't
prejudicial discrimination of others.
You raise first nations, prime example of an abysmal failure. No reason
to government them, tax them or treat them differently unless of course
we are a nation practicing preference and discrimination based on
classes of people.
We have First Nations class.
We have political egalitarian class paying less taxes on income.
We have unionized elite government class
We have provincial welfare based on origin class. (Quebec being the big
hog here)
We have immigrant class
And to pay for it all, we have a debt-tax slave non-government worker class.
No wonder people don't want to work in Canada. To work is to work for
too many others and not enough for your own family. And why many even
have lower domestic production of kids, not even 1.5 kids per family any
more. All because everything is a debt-tax slave of state.
Minute you say one class has preference over another, you are
discrimination.
Chom Noamsky
May 21, 2012, 11:25:50 AM5/21/12
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On 5/20/2012 3:07 PM, Co...@minority.gov wrote:
> Still think that "when any cultural community openly promotes hatred for another they
>> should be exposed, challenged and corrected." ?
Now, can you tell us why you are best known as "KKKaren" to everyone on
> Still think that "when any cultural community openly promotes hatred for another they
>> should be exposed, challenged and corrected." ?
Usenet?
Chom Noamsky
May 21, 2012, 11:35:11 AM5/21/12
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revolutionaries do when they seize power is focus all their hatred on
the capitalist class and the bourgeois and persecute them into
extinction. Then they spend the next several decades trying to make an
economy work, ultimately succumbing to bankruptcy and state failure.
And the thing they hate most of all is dissenters. Everything you
publish is "I hate capitalists! I hate America! But I love radical
Muslims because they hate America!"
Unknown
May 21, 2012, 4:46:13 PM5/21/12
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> On 5/20/2012 3:07 PM, Co...@minority.gov wrote:
>> Still think that "when any cultural community openly promotes hatred for another they
>>> should be exposed, challenged and corrected." ?
>> Still think that "when any cultural community openly promotes hatred for another they
>>> should be exposed, challenged and corrected." ?
Kim Dobranski aka "Chom Noamsky" <ch...@noamsky.here> wrote in message
news:jpdmq0$pj1$1...@dont-email.me...
> Now, can you tell us why you are best known as "KKKaren" to everyone on Usenet?
Because loser posters like yourself find it more convenient to attack the messenger than be
able to refute the message?
And also because posters like yourself like the feeling of belonging to a boys-who-hate-girls
club. Throwbacks to neanderthal times.
Your image here:
http://images7.kurir-info.rs/slika-900x608/nadrtalci-ukrsanje-1328585176-94526.jpg
Unknown
May 21, 2012, 4:51:29 PM5/21/12
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Kim Dobranski aka "Chom Noamsky" <ch...@noamsky.here> wrote in message
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> Your entire ideology is established on hatred. The first thing Marxist revolutionaries do
> when they seize power is focus all their hatred on the capitalist class and the bourgeois and
> persecute them into extinction.
Hahahaha !! Unlike the 'capitalists' who share their wealth, are concerned for their fellow
> when they seize power is focus all their hatred on the capitalist class and the bourgeois and
> persecute them into extinction.
man, and would never think of making money at the expense of the environment or other people.
Good one, Dobranski. Except that all the protests and revolutions taking place around the
globe now are not the result of the benefits of capitalism - they're they result of the
"bourgeois" and "capitalist class" having abused their power for far too long.
The 'revolutionaries' are always the product of the capitalist class' abuses.
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