FORGET ABOUT MARK -- HE'S GONE
On Mar 3, 11:44 pm, thewayoftruth1 <
bicbess2...@gmail.com> wrote:
* In this article about trinity Mr.Grigsby stated that trinity is
"the
* fundamental element of the true Christian faith and this belief is
* founded on both Old and New Covenant writings from Genesis to
* Revelation"
*
* actually this is not true at all, firstly, because this idea (known
* also as Athanasian Creed) was founded almost three centuries after
* Jesus and was adopted by the council of Nicea in 325 A.D. after a
* great debate the majority accepted Jesus to be a god! so we can say
* that Jesus was the only god chosen democratically! and that means
that
* all those who had died before the year 325 were not true Christians,
The trinity is considered the fundamental tenet of Christian faith by
most mainstream Christians. Dissenting Christians almost everywhere
would merely be hounded down by the Church.
Muhammad did point out in Surah 5 of the Quran that this doctrine is
not due to Jesus himself. I must thank the author of the quoted text
for pointing out a fact of history that not many people appreciate.
The Nicene Creed is in fact of no interest or importance except to
people who want to learn Latin.
* all Muslims, Jews and Christians believe that God is All Powerful,
and
* the bibles show us that Jesus is not, Jesus himself said "I can do
* nothing on my own authority (John 5.30), Jesus was unable to do any
* miracle in his hometown (Mark 6.5-6) when Jesus tried to heal a
blind
* man, the man was not healed after the first attempt and Jesus had to
* try a second time (Mark 8.22-26) so Jesus had limitations in his
power
* like any other human so he can not be GOD the All powerful, besides
* Jesus could not control his own power he lost it once when a woman
* touched him and Jesus did not know who touched him and he had to ask
* his disciples who became angry at him (Mark 5.27-32) this story
shows
* that Jesus did not know the future nor did he know the past or the
* present plus he has no control over his power.
This sounds like the punch line:-
"FORGET ABOUT MARK, HE'S GONE." This is what I told a Catholic girl
named Claudia about thirty years ago, while discussing our dumb
classmate in school. "But his sister Frieda's face is better looking
than yours or Rajen's." Rajen was a muddle-headed molecular biologist
who seemed to be more interested in Christianity than science, and who
kept telling me that he could not stand Frieda's face. Claudia herself
was just about to leave our country and settle down in Australia, and
by the end of it all her face was as red as the flag in the Marx
(Mark's) office. Mark's father, amusingly, was a church-going member
of the Communist Party of India (Marxist). Frieda and Mark were both
known as "Christopher's children", and Christopher's surname is too
complicated to remember.
What I told my favorite classmate Claudia in fact started with a comic
imitation of what I heard from Mark's cousin Manmohan. "Forget about
Mark, he's gone. The whole bloody lot have gone. Left their home and
gone. Of the whole bloody lot, the only one with any sense of decency
was Frieda, and the poor girl really had to take hell from churchgoers
everywhere."
"Gone where?" I asked Manmohan. "To the United States. The story goes
that they made use of Frieda's contacts in Boston, but there is
obvously something fishy about this since Frieda herself went abroad
as a student." My comic remarks about Mark were not so much what upset
Claudia, who was all too willing to damn him herself, as something I
said about another Catholic girl by the name of Marisa Martyres. Some
of my student friends and I hatched a plot to keep saying "Forget
about Mark, he's gone" whenever Marisa passed by.
But what do I have here in front of me? The Bible! The editor's notes
at the end say:
"THE NEW TESTAMENT
begins with the FOUR GOSPEL NARRATIVES, which give the life and
teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ from four different points of view.
MATTHEW wrote for the JEW and shows Christ as the MESSIAH and KING in
whom, as God's anointed, were fulfilled the prophecies of the Old
Testament and in whom, as His Royal Law-Giver, David's Kingdom is
arrived.
MARK addressed the ROMANS and exhibits Christ as the MIGHTY GOD, the
Man of divine power, the miracle-worker.
LUKE, whe wrote for the GREEKS, shows Christ as the SON OF MAN and
SERVANT OF GOD, the divine teacher and friend of the race.
JOHN especially dwells on the DIVINE NATURE of Christ as the Son of
God, who gives eternal life to every believer."
So it seems Mark was the mixed up culprit who called Jesus a "mighty
god", and once more we have to say "Forget about Mark, he's gone."
However, on going through Mark's gospel as carefully as my patience
permits, I find that, exactly as thewayoftruth1, Mark did not actually
call Jesus a "mighty god". The editor has merely put down a figment of
his own imagination into writing. But what we all do know is that all
of Jesus Christ's miracles were spurious reports by the gospel
writers. Therefore it is not surprising that Emperor Nero called
Christianity a "dangerous superstition." So we might as well keep
saying "Forget about Mark, he's gone. The whole bloody lot have gone."
Muhammad may not have been fully aware of this, but he did challenge
the myth of Christ's crucifiction and subsequent resurrection in the
Quran, Surah IV, v. 157:
"And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah Jesus son of Mary,
Allah's messenger -- they slew him not nor crucified, but it appeared
so among them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt
of thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a
conjecture; they slew him not for certain."
The rest of the quoted text goes on to show that the gospel writers,
humbugs that they were, did not outright challenge the tenets of both
monotheism and polytheism by electing Jesus Christ as the only god to
be worshipped. This is true enough.