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  <title type="text">A Civil Religious Debate Google Group</title>
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  This is a group created for argumentation and debate. Regardless of your religious views, your opinion is welcome here. This forum will be moderated to remove any arguments that resort to adhominem attacks.
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  <updated>2010-01-07T21:56:48Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Brock Organ</name>
  <email>brockor...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T21:56:48Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/cf38e73884f86684/f641e4b9689a9d3b?show_docid=f641e4b9689a9d3b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/cf38e73884f86684/f641e4b9689a9d3b?show_docid=f641e4b9689a9d3b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: What is Love?</title>
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  Perhaps a different way to put it is that I don&#39;t hold the objective &lt;br&gt; nature of reality hostage to human reason. In fact, I contend that &lt;br&gt; humanistic first principles are generally not adequate to objectively &lt;br&gt; establish epistemological conclusions. &lt;br&gt; Does that answer your question? &lt;br&gt; Regards, &lt;br&gt; Brock
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Joe</name>
  <email>thelemiccatho...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T21:22:52Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/cf38e73884f86684/cc349661ca9e55cc?show_docid=cc349661ca9e55cc</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/cf38e73884f86684/cc349661ca9e55cc?show_docid=cc349661ca9e55cc"/>
  <title type="text">Re: What is Love?</title>
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  Can I take it then, Brock, that you *do* advocate a position that &lt;br&gt; says, essentially, &amp;quot;to believe the Christian revelation requires the &lt;br&gt; suspension of one&#39;s capacity to reason?&amp;quot;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>atypican</name>
  <email>davidmja...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T19:48:31Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/a09db5c150aa2090/bc27e61a4a760915?show_docid=bc27e61a4a760915</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/a09db5c150aa2090/bc27e61a4a760915?show_docid=bc27e61a4a760915"/>
  <title type="text">Re: If there is no God, why then do Atheists get so enraged when someone post&#39;s the gospel ?</title>
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  It&#39;s a fine line I agree. In many cases I do think it is appropriate &lt;br&gt; to use articles and internet sourced media etc. to be provocative and &lt;br&gt; spark up discussion. I don&#39;t even feel comfortable saying, don&#39;t do &lt;br&gt; it. The *extent* to which you do it crosses that line (imo). Perhaps &lt;br&gt; we could delete (and archive) the posts that don&#39;t start discussions.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>atypican</name>
  <email>davidmja...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T19:47:47Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/a09db5c150aa2090/ff2dfcfca55e5222?show_docid=ff2dfcfca55e5222</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/a09db5c150aa2090/ff2dfcfca55e5222?show_docid=ff2dfcfca55e5222"/>
  <title type="text">Re: If there is no God, why then do Atheists get so enraged when someone post&#39;s the gospel ?</title>
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  It&#39;s a fine line I agree. In many cases I do think it is appropriate &lt;br&gt; to use articles and internet sourced media etc. to be provocative and &lt;br&gt; spark up discussion. I don&#39;t even feel comfortable saying, don&#39;t do &lt;br&gt; it. The *extent* to which you do it crosses that line (imo). Perhaps &lt;br&gt; we could delete (and archive) the posts that don&#39;t start discussions.
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Brock Organ</name>
  <email>brockor...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T15:00:33Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/cf38e73884f86684/f027b20a425e47c3?show_docid=f027b20a425e47c3</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/cf38e73884f86684/f027b20a425e47c3?show_docid=f027b20a425e47c3"/>
  <title type="text">Re: What is Love?</title>
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  Sounds like a good vacation! :) &lt;br&gt; Regards, &lt;br&gt; Brock
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>xeno</name>
  <email>69black...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T01:01:59Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/c7c636e60e722125/fce4d2791bc76d48?show_docid=fce4d2791bc76d48</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/c7c636e60e722125/fce4d2791bc76d48?show_docid=fce4d2791bc76d48"/>
  <title type="text">Re: How does Religion account for Race?</title>
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  A pissing match is more appropriate analogy. It&#39;s abt ability, not &lt;br&gt; size. That&#39;s generally the case, isn&#39;t it?
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Bridge</name>
  <email>bqs4l...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T06:55:45Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/79fea8025f2290d8/cbce9482068e68d4?show_docid=cbce9482068e68d4</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/79fea8025f2290d8/cbce9482068e68d4?show_docid=cbce9482068e68d4"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Love of War on the Skank Site</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  What does that have to do with using this site as some kind of home &lt;br&gt; base to yell at people on some other site that don&#39;t like you? &lt;br&gt; I didn&#39;t come here to have a fort. I didn&#39;t tell you I was going to &lt;br&gt; moderate you. &lt;br&gt; I even said please.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>xnun</name>
  <email>xnun2...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T03:08:25Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/79fea8025f2290d8/ceb3c364ef1a03e8?show_docid=ceb3c364ef1a03e8</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/79fea8025f2290d8/ceb3c364ef1a03e8?show_docid=ceb3c364ef1a03e8"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Love of War on the Skank Site</title>
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  You guys have fun with your previously unwritten rules. &lt;br&gt; xnun was the only woman here. &lt;br&gt; xnun
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Bridge</name>
  <email>bqs4l...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T01:08:43Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/79fea8025f2290d8/aa9ba6c19c34e4d9?show_docid=aa9ba6c19c34e4d9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/79fea8025f2290d8/aa9ba6c19c34e4d9?show_docid=aa9ba6c19c34e4d9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Love of War on the Skank Site</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  I think you should start a website if you want to put up posts like &lt;br&gt; this one. Why would I care about Kitty Hundal? &lt;br&gt; This post isn&#39;t even about religion. &lt;br&gt; I&#39;d like you to not post stuff like this anymore. Please.
  </summary>
  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Bridge</name>
  <email>bqs4l...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T01:06:24Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/cf38e73884f86684/7c502a7d03b91eb1?show_docid=7c502a7d03b91eb1</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/cf38e73884f86684/7c502a7d03b91eb1?show_docid=7c502a7d03b91eb1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: What is Love?</title>
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  I&#39;m going to need a second with this. My definition of love changed &lt;br&gt; while on vacation.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Alan Wostenberg</name>
  <email>awo...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T00:45:36Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/250b87c445accf9d/91f1187871601f58?show_docid=91f1187871601f58</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/250b87c445accf9d/91f1187871601f58?show_docid=91f1187871601f58"/>
  <title type="text">Re: moderation on the uncensored group (Was Re: . . . new trick)</title>
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  My vote: delete the O.P., Joe. It has no place here. &lt;br&gt; -Alan
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Bridge</name>
  <email>bqs4l...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T00:31:12Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/250b87c445accf9d/0a0eccb8eb0f7546?show_docid=0a0eccb8eb0f7546</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/250b87c445accf9d/0a0eccb8eb0f7546?show_docid=0a0eccb8eb0f7546"/>
  <title type="text">Re: moderation on the uncensored group (Was Re: . . . new trick)</title>
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  Feel loved and remember the next time you&#39;re tempted to hate it&#39;s just &lt;br&gt; a temptation to be independent from love.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Bridge</name>
  <email>bqs4l...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T00:29:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/5608c69303cbc9a9/1e06521478bcfadd?show_docid=1e06521478bcfadd</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/5608c69303cbc9a9/1e06521478bcfadd?show_docid=1e06521478bcfadd"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Fwd: 25% of US teen girls have STDs</title>
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  I wasn&#39;t commenting on the number of children. You asked about STD&#39;s.
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Brock Organ</name>
  <email>brockor...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-06T22:54:43Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/250b87c445accf9d/f43825338646e442?show_docid=f43825338646e442</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/250b87c445accf9d/f43825338646e442?show_docid=f43825338646e442"/>
  <title type="text">Re: moderation on the uncensored group (Was Re: . . . new trick)</title>
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  Hi atypican, &lt;br&gt; I agree with you that would be a nice feature to have. But I wonder &lt;br&gt; if the real issue is the morality and trust of the participants. For &lt;br&gt; example, even having that particular feature won&#39;t stop the &lt;br&gt; accusations from someone who wants to eristically and &lt;br&gt; opportunistically abuse it. So I consider that regardless of what
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Brock Organ</name>
  <email>brockor...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-06T22:44:01Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/cf38e73884f86684/139029af0710a5dd?show_docid=139029af0710a5dd</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/a-civil-religious-debate/browse_thread/thread/cf38e73884f86684/139029af0710a5dd?show_docid=139029af0710a5dd"/>
  <title type="text">Re: What is Love?</title>
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  Which is not a comfort for a standard that is objectively inadequate. &lt;br&gt; And that method, process, algorithm, decision tree, or heuristic are &lt;br&gt; simply not adequate to discern what is the personal and relational &lt;br&gt; action of God&#39;s Holy Spirit. &lt;br&gt; I just consider that there is no heuristic or algorithm that is &lt;br&gt; adequate to replace what is the personal action of God&#39;s Holy Spirit;
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