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Benoit Couture  
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 More options Oct 11 2007, 7:50 am
From: Benoit Couture <benoit...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:50:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2007 7:50 am
Subject: Re: The Secrets of Intangible Wealth

Nikolay,

  Why should you be sorry to point out to the fact that the emperor is naked and acting as if he/she was not?  

  From the sideline, here's an attempt to touch the untouchable, since in fact, the word  intangible is obviously what is not obvious.  
  Economically, intangibles are the invisible components needed to be assessed for the visible to flourish, in the whole context of mutuality versus conflict, goodwill versus bad will, authenticity versus deceit.
  Intangibles are what affect the security of the tangible, so from this point of view, intangibles are the shifting ground in which the tangible is rooted.
  So the more we evolve within the confinements of our competitive comfort zone scientifically, socially, economically and politically, modernization and globalization force us all to face the gaps between rich and poor and all the challeges of conflict resolution at hand.  So in that sense, intangible is the safety process of the tangible.

  As long as the market forces remain into the safety provided by the security context of the military and police forces, then the intangibles cannot shift where intelligence and wisdom can be passed on peacefully from generation to generation, because the military machine's survival consumes the goodwill into the constant "need" for conflict.  
  The security context of the intangible must move from militancy to radiance.  Radiance is the cultivation of personal inner justice which produces the inner peace needed for the joy of living, where conflict is not welcome to dwell.  
  So to me, the joy of living versus the animal dictatorship power structures of existence are where the realm of intangibles begins.   It is all a matter of contextual relatedness and relationship.  

  Reality says that we are not about to be weened from the military machine.  So therefore, vision from history and emotional intelligence are key to the assessment of intangibles, toward a possible future. That is where intangibles and sanity become partners, or not.  
  That is why I view http://intangibles-valuation.blogspot.com/ to be so crucial in building the rails of Value-Networks and Prediction Markets within the evolution of modernization and into the movement of globalization.  
  When it comes to economic intangibles, the initial part of the road to the immediate fututre is to go from competing to completing where we assemble  the joy of living from justice and peace instead of the exploitation of corruption and violence, where the military finds its "raison d'être"!

  With regards,
  Benoit

Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:

I asked a simple question: "what a methodology was used to make these
definitions?". Why should I go for mining the answer if no one can
answer? Sorry for my entering this issue.

Nikolay

On Oct 10, 9:46 pm, David Meggitt wrote:

> Much of the value network material is open source :-)) for you to
> peruse.

> You can find it on the sitehttp://www.value-networks.com

> Also, please refer to the entries on Wikipedia linked fromhttp://www.value-networks.com/resources.htm
> and follow the link to value network analysis as well.

> This forum also contains rich veins that are worth mining, which
> includes those contributed by Benoit.

> Hope that helps...David

> On Oct 10, 11:02 am, Nikolay Kryachkov wrote:

> > And what a methodology was used to make these definitions?

> > Nikolay

> > On Oct 10, 12:52 pm, David Meggitt wrote:

> > > I promised a set of definitions:

> > > Please refer to post of 22nd August 2007 "Value Network Glossary"
> > > which links tohttp://kmblogs.com/public/item/180197

> > > regards....David

> > > On Oct 9, 9:56 pm, David Meggitt wrote:

> > > > For simplicity, we tend to say in value network thinking that as soon
> > > > as transactions have deliverables that can be measured in monetary
> > > > terms, they become tangibles. Intangibles have value also (for
> > > > example, in maintaining a healthy business long term) and can also be
> > > > converted into tangibles.

> > > > This is considered the present. The "future" is more about a new way
> > > > of thinking giving knowledge a new future!

> > > > I think it would be a good idea to find some definitions to help
> > > > clarify. I'll locate and post up.

> > > > David

> > > > On Oct 9, 9:28 pm, Nikolay Kryachkov wrote:

> > > > > I'm not about the future, David.

> > > > > Never thought that money is asset. I thought bank account with money
> > > > > and money are not the same entities.

> > > > > Money is a measure (direct or indirect) of some relationships
> > > > > (valuable or not) in networks.

> > > > > The measure can have the tangible standard, but it remains intangible,
> > > > > I think.

> > > > > Nikolay

> > > > > On Oct 9, 1:35 pm, David Meggitt wrote:

> > > > > > >From an economic point of view based only on money, I guess that would

> > > > > > follow, Nikolay..

> > > > > > However, from a value network perspective view based on what I would
> > > > > > suggest is an authentic position, this "short changes all other forms
> > > > > > of wealth"

> > > > > > You can pick up the rest from Verna Allee's book "The Future of
> > > > > > Knowledge". Money becomes a tangible and it is other assets that
> > > > > > constitute intangibles.
> > > > > > Quite a shift in thinking, so worth a peep.

> > > > > > A nation's economic wealth was I believe largely linked to GDP / head
> > > > > > - based on money.
> > > > > > The EU, of course, now includes other measures, including the full
> > > > > > panoply of "intellectual capital" in comparing national wealth.

> > > > > > David

> > > > > > On Oct 9, 8:19 am, Nikolay Kryachkov wrote:

> > > > > > > The wealth mostly depends on printing money. Money is a sort of
> > > > > > > intangibles. This article says nothing about it.

> > > > > > > Nikolay

> > > > > > >http://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/

> > > > > > > On Oct 8, 8:34 am, Joshua Callman wrote:

> > > > > > > > There is a short article that discusses how international differences in worker productivity and national wealth can be attributed to intangible factors (e.g., "...trust among people in a society, an efficient judicial system, clear property rights and effective government"):

> > > > > > > >http://reason.com/news/show/122854.html

> > > > > > > > I thought members of this group might find it of interest.

> > > > > > > > Josh Callman

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