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genius520  
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From: "genius520" <genius...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 05:44:28 -0000
Local: Sun, Mar 25 2007 1:44 am
Subject: 建议下一期话题
比如用户研究,如何找到典型用户,如何展开更有针对性的设计之类的话题。

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billsmith  
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 More options Mar 25 2007, 2:01 am
From: "billsmith" <hej...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:01:31 -0700
Local: Sun, Mar 25 2007 2:01 am
Subject: Re: 建议下一期话题
赞成!!具体什么时间呀?非常期待呢

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whitecrow....@gmail.com  
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 More options Mar 27 2007, 1:06 pm
From: whitecrow....@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:06:07 -0000
Local: Tues, Mar 27 2007 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: 建议下一期话题
好像在网站留言上也有人提议讨论类似的话题,
我们这两天正在选下期话题,会着重关注大家对于话题关注点的反馈的。

谢谢大家,

有什么想看到大家讨论的话题可以尽管提出来,我们会尽量满足..

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Aaron Sheng  
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 More options Mar 28 2007, 11:47 pm
From: "Aaron Sheng" <aaronsh...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:47:20 -0700
Local: Wed, Mar 28 2007 11:47 pm
Subject: Re: 建议下一期话题
通过数据挖掘来研究用户。
可能对于大型网站更有意义。

对于中小网站的意义、价值和可行性怎么样?
希望与有兴趣的朋友一块交流一下。

Aaron Sheng
http://aSheng.net

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Discussion subject changed to "UCDChina Re: 建议下一期话题" by Banlon
Banlon  
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 More options Mar 29 2007, 6:34 am
From: "Banlon" <banlon...@126.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:34:57 +0800
Local: Thurs, Mar 29 2007 6:34 am
Subject: Re: UCDChina Re: 建议下一期话题

对于中小为网页也要看情况。
比如一个用户群相当单一的中型网站,那么对他们的数据研究应该还是有比较高的价值的
可是整体来说,由于数据基数的问题,数据挖掘不太适合中小网站。
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2007-03-29

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发送时间: 2007-03-29 11:47:41
收件人: UCDChina
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主题: UCDChina Re: 建议下一期话题

通过数据挖掘来研究用户。
可能对于大型网站更有意义。

对于中小网站的意义、价值和可行性怎么样?
希望与有兴趣的朋友一块交流一下。

Aaron Sheng
http://aSheng.net

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Aaron Sheng  
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 More options Mar 29 2007, 9:15 pm
From: "Aaron Sheng" <aaronsh...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:15:27 -0000
Local: Thurs, Mar 29 2007 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: UCDChina Re: 建议下一期话题

的确,数据基数对于中小网站尤其是初创期的网站是个问题。
另外,从我接触的一些情况来看,似乎还不是很多网站意识要到专门通过数据挖掘来研究用户,倒是很多会花不少精力去提高自己的Alexa排名,而不是关注
用户。

因为接触的网站还不是很多,而且以中小网站居多,上边的印象是否适合普遍情况,暂时我不能确定。

Banlon,你对网站通过数据挖掘来研究用户的情况有了解么?

Aaron Sheng
http://aSheng.net

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白鸦  
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 More options Mar 29 2007, 11:06 pm
From: "白鸦" <whitecrow....@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:06:00 +0800
Subject: Re: UCDChina Re: 建议下一期话题

咱们为什么不把这些讨论拿到网站上去呢, :)

在07-3-30,Aaron Sheng <aaronsh...@gmail.com> 写道:

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Stony  
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 More options Mar 29 2007, 11:11 pm
From: Stony <sto...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:11:30 +0800
Local: Thurs, Mar 29 2007 11:11 pm
Subject: Re: UCDChina Re: 建议下一期话题
googlegroups.com 可以被google搜索的,如果是开放性论坛的话。
这里讨论比较自由,网站上可以放一些过滤掉无用内容的总结。

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白鸦  
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 More options Mar 29 2007, 11:34 pm
From: "白鸦" <whitecrow....@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:34:06 +0800
Local: Thurs, Mar 29 2007 11:34 pm
Subject: Re: UCDChina Re: 建议下一期话题

stony的说法也是我们想的,

事实上我们希望网站是一个更加开放式的平台,
这里更多的是网站上未涉及到的一些内容的讨论,

咱们这个平台现在才刚刚开始,为了保证精力不分散,还是鼓励大家把涉及到网站上有的内容发到网站上面去。
这样可能看到的人更多,讨论的氛围会更好,
google能搜索到固然是好,  但我们的目的不是让它搜索到而是让更多的同行参与进来并受益,
哪怕google把我们的网站拔毛了,只要大家都记得而且互相口碑相传形成好的讨论和交流气氛,我觉得更值。

我们并不看重SEO, 我们更相信真实的有意义的内容和人。
当然SEO能有效果就更好了。

不好意思, 啰嗦了几句,
大家见谅,   希望大家不要因为我的啰嗦也对发言有什么顾虑了,
 用户怎么用产品都可以,产品的方向是随着用户的使用而不断更新的, 我只是个人想呼吁大家一起更有效的推动网站的氛围。  :)

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cui sarah  
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 More options Mar 29 2007, 11:35 pm
From: "cui sarah" <sarahbabyt...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:35:07 +0800
Local: Thurs, Mar 29 2007 11:35 pm
Subject: RE: UCDChina Re: 建议下一期话题
hey add me on ur msn or gtalk list,k?

sara...@gamil.com

>From: "白鸦" <whitecrow....@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: UCDChina@googlegroups.com
>To: UCDChina@googlegroups.com
>Subject: UCDChina Re: 建议下一期话题
>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:06:00 +0800

>咱们为什么不把这些讨论拿到网站上去呢, :)

>在07-3-30,Aaron Sheng <aaronsh...@gmail.com> 写道:

> > 的确,数据基数对于中小网站尤其是初创期的网站是个问题。
> > 另外,从我接触的一些情况来看,似乎还不是很多网站意识要到专门通过数据挖掘

来研究用户,倒是很多会花不少精力去提高自己的Alexa排名,而不是关注
> > 用户。

> > 因为接触的网站还不是很多,而且以中小网站居多,上边的印象是否适合普遍情况

,暂时我不能确定。

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吉波何  
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 More options Mar 30 2007, 3:01 am
From: "吉波何" <hej...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:01:08 +0800
Local: Fri, Mar 30 2007 3:01 am
Subject: Re: UCDChina Re: 建议下一期话题

A case project on Joyo user interface design:
http://www.isaruid.com/project_2.htm

卓越网用户界面设计

2003年底,卓越网(www.joyo.com)
发现自己有将近三分之二的新用户在完成注册之后没有进行购物。研究发现,网页界面设计的不合理及购物流程的繁琐是用户流失的重要原因。

为了提高网站浏览者的购买率,卓越委托ISAR公司对其原有的网站进行改版设计。

我们为卓越的这次改版设计提供了完整的用户界面设计方案,贯穿整个使用性工程学的生命周期:
1) 竞争对手分析(使用性比较测试)
2) 卓越网站的使用性测试
3) 卓越网站的用户研究
4) 用户界面设计、测试以及再设计

为了确保项目质量,我们在前期进行了用户研究、竞争分析和国外成功电子商务网站的界面分析(启发式评估的方法)等等,这些工作为之后的界面设计奠定了基础。

设计之前,我们对卓越网进行了使用性测试,并和其他竞争对手的测试结果进行对比分析,发现卓越网存在许多细节上的问题,从而找到了其界面设计上所存在的弱点,如 ,搜索功能不强;商品分类不科学,填写订单的过程过于繁琐。

我们通过对不同用户使用搜索动机的研究,对搜索界面进行设计,弥补了网站搜索引擎功能不强的弱点。

关于商品分类的问题,我们一方面查阅分类学的相关资料;另一方面在焦点小组,用卡片归类的方法,让用户提出他们认为比较合适的分类方法。最后依据分类学的理论和 用户的认知与使用习惯,提出一套比较合理的商品分类体系。

On 3/29/07, Banlon <banlon...@126.com> wrote:

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He Jibo
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2007-02-08

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youtie@gmail.com  
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 More options Mar 30 2007, 9:50 am
From: "you...@gmail.com" <you...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:50:29 -0700
Local: Fri, Mar 30 2007 9:50 am
Subject: Re: UCDChina Re: 建议下一期话题
我们团队的网站下个月发布,我们很关注数据挖掘
我们一个核心成员是数据库方向的博士
我们不太关心Alexa排名
我们是不是不太像中国网站?:)

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白鸦  
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 More options Apr 1 2007, 9:59 am
From: "白鸦" <whitecrow....@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 21:59:39 +0800
Local: Sun, Apr 1 2007 9:59 am
Subject: Re: UCDChina Re: 建议下一期话题

根据大家的建议,  本期文章我们已经全部发出,
话题为"如何了解用户和需求"

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