Announcing new site with TagglyWiki style tagging

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SimonBaird

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Jul 22, 2005, 2:37:07 AM7/22/05
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It's called MonkeyPirateTiddlyWiki at the link is:
http://homes.jcu.edu.au/~ccscb/mptw/

I've put all my hacks into systemConfig Tiddlers so now I can upgrade
to the latest TiddlyWiki. Here's a quick list of what you'll find.

The two big ones:
* TagglyWiki style tagging. Ie a tag is a tiddler is a tag. Plus
there's a tagged tiddler list under each tiddler/tag.
* Use commas to separate tags. (But it still stores them in the space
and square bracket way so you won't break your existing tiddlers).

Lesser features are:
* The good old Close Others Button
* "New Here" Button. This makes sense only with TagglyWiki tagging
switched on. Try it out..
* Focus and select when editing
* Close Unsaved On Cancel
* Make Lists Use Lists (experimental)
* Shorten Timeline Links. A personal preference.

Regards,
Simon Baird.

Jim Barr

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Jul 22, 2005, 8:49:25 AM7/22/05
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FANTASTIC!

To the dismay of TiddlyWikiAdaptations developers, TiddlyWiki's new
Macro feature pretty much eliminates the need for
TiddlyWikiAdaptations, but it does open wide the door for Plugin
development!

It's so cool to be able to see all of those nice specialized code
adaptations being migrated to Macros. This is certainly a boon for
TiddlyWiki. Now, users will be able to pick and choose the features
they like and want from various TiddlyWikiAdaptations instead of having
to "settle" on one over another for sake of a single feature.

Nice job!!!

Question: Could the Shorten Timeline Links Plugin be adapted to Eric
Shulman's great TableOfContents mod?

christianhauck

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Jul 22, 2005, 9:16:27 AM7/22/05
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I've done some (simple) adaptations in the past, and I must: It's not a
dismay, it's a relief! And an extremly clever and beautiful design.

stev...@gmail.com

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Jul 22, 2005, 2:36:15 PM7/22/05
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Hi Simon,

This is great, thanks!

I am trying to copy the TagglyWiki code. But when I double-click on the
code tiddler, I can only edit/copy the tiddler title and tags. There is
no text entry box for the actual tiddler content.

Does this have something to do with the 'Focus Tweak'?

I am running Firefox on Mac (actually Deer Park which is a 1.1 Alpha,
but has worked great with TW.)

Thanks, Steve

Keith Hodges

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Jul 22, 2005, 7:51:03 PM7/22/05
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> To the dismay of TiddlyWikiAdaptations developers, TiddlyWiki's new
> Macro feature pretty much eliminates the need for
> TiddlyWikiAdaptations, but it does open wide the door for Plugin
> development!

I think that there is still a fair bit of adapting still to do! If one can
find the time to do it in

best regards

Keith

Kevin Kleinfelter

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Jul 23, 2005, 11:05:14 AM7/23/05
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In reviewing some of the remaining TW adaptations (tha have not been
converted to plug-ins), it appears that many of them require mods to the
code because they alter the toolbar. It seems to me that the toolbar could
be adapted to permit toolbar plug-ins in much the same way that the
SideBarOptions and SideBarTabs tiddlers work.

This would be particularly nice because then adaptations such as YATWA's
Folding could be converted into plug-ins.

What do you think Jeremy -- doable?

AlanH

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Jul 23, 2005, 11:57:12 AM7/23/05
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Ispoken to Jeremy, and he has this in the works...although I'm not
exactly sure how it will work. But that's the piece I'm waiting for
for a QwikiWeb mod via systemConfig. I'm sure many other adaptations
will follow suit once this piece is in place.

FYI, I WAS able to get QwikiWeb's toolbar mods to function from a
systemConfig tiddler -- by REPRODUCING a new version of
createTiddlyButton that essentially replaces the hardcoded one in the
HTML. However, while this "replacing a function" method worked in FF,
it did not work in IE (don't we get tired of saying that line?). So
alas, I have to wait for Jeremy's feature for toolbar customization.

~AlanH

SimonBaird

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Jul 23, 2005, 12:34:45 PM7/23/05
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Thanks for that feedback. It might have been a typo that somehow got
introduced into the Comma Separated Tags Plugin just before I uploaded,
in which case try again now maybe.

You could also try is this:
http://homes.jcu.edu.au/~ccscb/mptw/pluginsoff.html
which has all plugins disabled. You could get the code you want and try
enable just the plugin you want.

It could be a problem with the Mac rendering that I haven't been able
to see yet (will try to do some Mac testing soon).

Cheers,
Simon.
MonkeyPirateTiddlyWiki http://homes.jcu.edu.au/~ccscb/mptw/

AlanH

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Jul 23, 2005, 9:01:47 PM7/23/05
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Read
http://groups-beta.google.com:/group/TiddlyWiki/msg/5b30ffc41ee3759f
if you want to see a demo of changing the toolbar via one single
systemConfig tiddler that rewrites the toolbar function and also
applies the needed CSS all in one package.
~AlanH

SimonBaird

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Jul 25, 2005, 9:56:58 PM7/25/05
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I think I've got a better solution to this. (While we are waiting for
configurable toolbars :).
Basically you can dynamically put buttons in using DOM
element.insertBefore and the like. You could also remove buttons you
didn't want etc.
Take a look at these new versions of my "Close Others" and "New Here
Button" plugins:
http://homes.jcu.edu.au/~ccscb/mptw/#%5B%5BClose%20Others%20Button%20Plugin%5D%5D
http://homes.jcu.edu.au/~ccscb/mptw/#%5B%5BNew%20Here%20Button%20Plugin%5D%5D

Simon Baird
MonkeyPirateTiddlyWiki
http://homes.jcu.edu.au/~ccscb/mptw/

AlanH

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Jul 25, 2005, 10:21:21 PM7/25/05
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Not sure if you saw the "macro-based" version I posted earlier today
(http://snipurl.com/qwikiweb/qwikiweb.htm). It was a vast improvement
on yesterday's initial experiment. I had originally considered the
insertBefore approach, but I thought the macro approach would be more
consistent with TW. It lets you add, remove, or rearrange toolbar
buttons via two separate, easy-to-edit tiddlers (one for edit toolbar
and one for viewing toolbar). Plus, it sets up the possibility for
alternatives toolbars (one for a local editor toolbar set and a
web-visitor toolbar set) -- something I've wanted to integrate again.
So when you say, "better solution," how do you mean? I'm sure I could
be missing something. ~AlanH
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