Friendlier toolbar customization

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Xavier Verges

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Jul 14, 2007, 9:58:37 AM7/14/07
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Past discussions in this group have shown that it is difficult to
reach an agreement about what belongs to the toolbars (my 2c: I want
"refresh" there :-) . However, I bet that customizing them is
something that intimidates most users: templates are scary.

At least, I think that we could take advantage of nested templates and
have the toolbars moved to their own shadow tiddler. A one-line
tiddler is less scary than a full template, and toolbars could be
reused when using multiple templates

If changing the toolbars could be made as simple as changing the
SideBarOptions...

-Xavier

FND

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Jul 14, 2007, 10:03:26 AM7/14/07
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> At least, I think that we could take advantage of nested templates and
> have the toolbars moved to their own shadow tiddler.

Sounds like a nice idea; we could use tiddler slices (like in ColorPalette).

Could you create a patch? It shouldn't be too hard; take a look at the
recent discussion on "centralized date formats", where I did something
very similar:
http://tinyurl.com/2nkp4g
(http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWikiDev/browse_thread/thread/2fe4e7bd3e01f8a6)
Here's the ticket with the attached patch(es):
http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/ticket/361


-- F.

Xavier Verges

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Jul 14, 2007, 11:23:15 AM7/14/07
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> We could use tiddler slices (like in ColorPalette).

F., that's very nice. It would allow to avoid an explosion in the
number of tiddlers, and to add some help in the shadow tiddler itself
----
[[ToolBars]]
(Annotation: This shadow tiddler determines what commands are
available in tiddlers' toolbars)
ViewTemplate: closeTiddler closeOthers +editTiddler > fields syncing
permalink references jump
EditTemplate: +saveTiddler -cancelTiddler deleteTiddler

Use this tiddler to customize the toolbars in tiddlers.
">" will be replaced by "more", and will show the commands to the
right when clicked
Use "+" before the command to make it the default command.
Use "-" before the command to make it the cancel command.
The available command are <<showAllCommands>>
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> Could you create a patch?

Hey! I was just complaining, not volunteering to help! :-P
Ok, ok... I did use "we", so I'll have to eat my words and take the
challange (plus the slices idea makes things quite simpler and less
open to naming issues, and your patch shows that "nested" really means
"nested").

However,
* it will have to wait till I'm back from the two weeks computer-free
vacation that I'm about to start (yay!).
* it would be nice to see if any of the commiters thinks that this is
a good thing

>>(my 2c: I want "refresh" there :-)

I just realized that this is a mGTD thing...

btw, This may be the msg number 10.000 to this group...

-Xavier

Saq Imtiaz

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Jul 18, 2007, 3:47:59 AM7/18/07
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I definitely think toolbar customization needs to be made easier. As a plugin developer I always dread telling users they need to edit the ViewTemplate just to add something to the toolbar. It is far too intimidating for new users.
So get started mate, this would definitely be useful.

Cheers,
Saq
 

>>(my 2c: I want "refresh" there :-)
I just realized that this is a mGTD thing...

btw, This may be the msg number 10.000 to this group...

-Xavier


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