Prohibiting deletions or later edits to tiddlers.
dickon
complex psychotherapeutic intervention for street youth (http://
imp.peermore.com/imp/recipes/imp/tiddlers.wiki) needs a bit of help.
As a general aim, we want to bring note-taking about our clients (a
kind of 'thinking scartchpad', at least) right up close to manualized
instructions (a "how to do it" work-book if you like) as well as
linking this in with standardised asessment tools and outcome
measures.
However, there are all kinds of concerns about how you store client
data. I have previously asked about how we might get a "one button
csv file export" organised, so that any tiddlers tagged "ClientNotes"
are copied into a csv file that can transfer data to an existing
secure database, but I've not had any feedback on that request yet -
maybe it is a tall order?
Ideally also, though, any client notes made by a practitioner should
not be liable to being edited or deleted after they have first been
made (I mustn't be able to go back after I gave a really bad bit of
advice and rewrite the notes to make it look better for me!, though it
would be good to be able to make an addendum after the event - I have
been shown TiddlerNotes and this might be just the job for that)... is
there a way to make such retrospective editing impossible without an
administrator password?
Best wishes,
Dickon Bevington
Eric Shulman
> data. I have previously asked about how we might get a "one button
> csv file export" organised, so that any tiddlers tagged "ClientNotes"
> are copied into a csv file that can transfer data to an existing
> secure database, but I've not had any feedback on that request yet -
> maybe it is a tall order?
Usage for your purposes:
<<saveAs label:"save client notes" type:csv ClientNotes>>
Note: CSV format is also directly supported by:
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ImportTiddlersPlugin
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#LoadTiddlersPlugin
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ExportTiddlersPlugin
enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
FND
> any client notes made by a practitioner should not be liable to
> being edited or deleted after they have first been made
Since you're dealing with TiddlyWeb, you could store such notes as
tiddlers in a bag with permissions preventing unauthorized editing.
This might be useful:
http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/t/2625184f2326aad7
> I have previously asked about how we might get a "one button
> csv file export" organised [...] but I've not had any feedback
Sorry to hear that - feel free to bump that topic as a reminder.
Generally speaking (I don't remember that particular thread), there are
a variety of reasons which could result in lack of feedback, e.g.
* bad timing: we might simply have missed your post (e.g. due to stress,
holidays etc.) - bumping the thread after a few days usually helps
* reproducibility: it's important for us to have all the details we need
to properly analyze it (cf. http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Troubleshooting)
* unclear expectations: sometimes it's not immediately obvious what the
question is (also see below)
* mixing topics: separate issues should be discussed separate threads -
this also helps recognizing which issues are still unsolved
* excessive verbosity: concise posts often have better chances of
getting a response (AKA TLDR... ); while the personal background story
might be (and indeed, often is) interesting, it's usually secondary to
the actual issue
This kinda looks like a patronizing rant now - it's not meant to be...
-- F.
dickon
in the least patronising Fred! i am certainly the guilty party when
it comes to verbosity and mixing strings! Thanks to you and Eric for
your helpful and quick comebacks.
Eric, is there a way to have the system remember where it has copied
up to already, so you don't have to export data that has already been
exported (prefer not to use a cookie based system, as this has privacy
implications but also practitioners may use different computers).
Dickon
On 2 June, 16:26, FND <F...@gmx.net> wrote:
> > As part of the TiddlyWeb development project [...]
> > any client notes made by a practitioner should not be liable to
> > being edited or deleted after they have first been made
>
> Since you're dealing with TiddlyWeb, you could store such notes as
> tiddlers in a bag with permissions preventing unauthorized editing.
> This might be useful:
> http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/t/2625184f2326aad7
>
> > I have previously asked about how we might get a "one button
> > csv file export" organised [...] but I've not had any feedback
>
> Sorry to hear that - feel free to bump that topic as a reminder.
>
> Generally speaking (I don't remember that particular thread), there are
> a variety of reasons which could result in lack of feedback, e.g.
> * bad timing: we might simply have missed your post (e.g. due to stress,
> holidays etc.) - bumping the thread after a few days usually helps
> * reproducibility: it's important for us to have all the details we need