Several menus or e.g mind maps are both usable and beautiful but take
up a lot of valuable real estate. On the one hand you need access to
the menus all the time, but on the other hand they are in the way for
everything else all the time.
Is there any plugin or generic solution to make specified tiddlers
floating and collapsable and *dockable* (is that a word?) to the
browser frame. A concrete example;
In e.g Windows and Mac, you have the bars typically at the bottom that
(depending on settings) can appear when touching the edge of the
window, but otherwise sink back and "disappear". A floating tiddler
with e.g an otherwise bulky mindmap-type menu could appear when e.g
the top or right edge of the browser window is touched.
E.g something as beautiful - but big - as HyperTiddlyWiki [1] could be
laid there. A related idea, would be a menu or tree or mind-map etc
that only shows a part, such as closely related tiddlers, but when
'touched' in some certain way, it expands into the full display.
hi mat,
nice to read there's more people interested in the combination of info
visualization and TW.
I'm still hoping for something like you describe above, but the other
way around:
have the tagmindmap (or any other visualization of content) as
screenfill/background and the tiddlers pop up next to the node that's
clicked on.
My try in implementing tagmindmap and moveablePanel is at
http://www.mobilelibrary.nl
I'd love to have more info visualization plugins for TW,
my ultimate dream would be something that looks like what i did now,
but with a small menu which lets the user/reader choose between,
for instance, the hyperbolic tree of tagmindmap, a tagcloud, or a
geographical map with markers that represent the tiddlers.
And my oh my do i hope that Jeremy continues his work on Cecily!
In my opinion, the great strength of TW is the way in which it lets me
connect little bits of information that gradually build op a hive, or
network, or pattern of fields of interest. Info visualization greatly
helps in discovering connectedness between little bits and pieces. To
be able to use this not only for my own benefit, offline, but also the
fact that nothing is easier to build your own website then simply
uploading one html-file is in my view the great 'selling point' of TW!
> In e.g Windows and Mac, you have the bars typically at the bottom that
> (depending on settings) can appear when touching the edge of the
> window, but otherwise sink back and "disappear". A floating tiddler
> with e.g an otherwise bulky mindmap-type menu could appear when e.g
> the top or right edge of the browser window is touched.
Although it's not exactly the same what you are seeking, and only
works for the top edge, perhaps placing a slider directly in your
[[PageTemplate]] would be sufficient for your needs. Try putting this
line at the top of the template:
Then, create a tiddler called [[TopStuff]] with whatever content you
want. Clicking the slider label at the top of the page opens the
slider, displaying the content from TopStuff.
Hover Menu (Lewcid) and Movable Panels (TiddlyTools) come to
mind . . .
I have seen some customized TW's with both of the above & combining
with sliders you might be able to create what you are looking for.
Mike
On Apr 3, 12:34 pm, Eric Shulman <elsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In e.g Windows and Mac, you have the bars typically at the bottom that
> > (depending on settings) can appear when touching the edge of the
> > window, but otherwise sink back and "disappear". A floating tiddler
> > with e.g an otherwise bulky mindmap-type menu could appear when e.g
> > the top or right edge of the browser window is touched.
> Although it's not exactly the same what you are seeking, and only
> works for the top edge, perhaps placing a slider directly in your
> [[PageTemplate]] would be sufficient for your needs. Try putting this
> line at the top of the template:
> Then, create a tiddler called [[TopStuff]] with whatever content you
> want. Clicking the slider label at the top of the page opens the
> slider, displaying the content from TopStuff.
On 3 Apr., 19:34, Eric Shulman <elsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In e.g Windows and Mac, you have the bars typically at the bottom that
> > (depending on settings) can appear when touching the edge of the
> > window, but otherwise sink back and "disappear". A floating tiddler
> > with e.g an otherwise bulky mindmap-type menu could appear when e.g
> > the top or right edge of the browser window is touched.
> Although it's not exactly the same what you are seeking, and only
> works for the top edge, perhaps placing a slider directly in your
> [[PageTemplate]] would be sufficient for your needs. Try putting this
> line at the top of the template:
> On 3 Apr., 19:34, Eric Shulman <elsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > In e.g Windows and Mac, you have the bars typically at the bottom that
> > > (depending on settings) can appear when touching the edge of the
> > > window, but otherwise sink back and "disappear". A floating tiddler
> > > with e.g an otherwise bulky mindmap-type menu could appear when e.g
> > > the top or right edge of the browser window is touched.
> > Although it's not exactly the same what you are seeking, and only
> > works for the top edge, perhaps placing a slider directly in your
> > [[PageTemplate]] would be sufficient for your needs. Try putting this
> > line at the top of the template:
> If I would like to copy just the behaviour and content of TWkd's
> sidebarpanel - How would I proceed??
Basically you would only need the style definition concerned with the
right sidebar within the [[DynamicStyle]] and
[[FixedStyle]] tiddlers and linked to from the shadowed StyleSheet
tiddler. Then reverse the order of lines concerned with the
SidebarTabs and SidebarOptions within the PageTemplate shadowed
tiddler. At last you could also adapt the colors within the
[[DynamicStyle]] to the palette of your particular theme.
This would be the most basic steps, without also using the functions
provided by a Calendar and DividedListsPlugin within The SideBarTabs
shadowed tiddler.
Thanks for the advice Wolfgang - I will try this.
One of the really "frightening" obstacles which prevents me from
fiddling to much around with layout is
not knowing/understanding where to look for connections and neccesary
links (especially with the advanced and very customized layouts like
this one)
- maybe this recipe is my ticket to discovery of TWs capabilities when
it comes to stylesheets and pagetemplates...
YS Måns Mårtensson
On 10 Apr., 02:34, wolfgang <wolfgangl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If I would like to copy just the behaviour and content of TWkd's
> > sidebarpanel - How would I proceed??
> Basically you would only need the style definition concerned with the
> right sidebar within the [[DynamicStyle]] and
> [[FixedStyle]] tiddlers and linked to from the shadowed StyleSheet
> tiddler. Then reverse the order of lines concerned with the
> SidebarTabs and SidebarOptions within the PageTemplate shadowed
> tiddler. At last you could also adapt the colors within the
> [[DynamicStyle]] to the palette of your particular theme.
> This would be the most basic steps, without also using the functions
> provided by a Calendar and DividedListsPlugin within The SideBarTabs
> shadowed tiddler.
