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nanbudh  
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 More options Dec 31 2007, 10:24 pm
From: nanbudh <nanb...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:24:43 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 31 2007 10:24 pm
Subject: Tips for using TW as a Website
Hi,
I wish to use to tw as website for my institution. Please suggest
which plugins do i need to use in order to achieve the following:
* Hide the Edit button when viewing tw over http.
* hide all the systemConfig and other tw modification tiddlers over
http.
* Also preferably all the above should become visible through a
password plugin/macro so i  that I dont have to tough the TW core
script.
* I also wish to beautify my website a bit so please suggest what all
the colors in the ColorPallete mean?
Thanks for any response.
nanbudh

 
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Daniel Baird  
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 More options Dec 31 2007, 10:52 pm
From: "Daniel Baird" <danielba...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 13:52:21 +1000
Local: Mon, Dec 31 2007 10:52 pm
Subject: Re: [tw] Tips for using TW as a Website
I think you want Saq's presentation setup.  I couldn't easily find it
from Saq's own site http://lewcid.org ; you can get a TW already set
up with it at http://tiddlyspot.com .

Saq also runs http://tiddlythemes.com where you can find some nice themes.

Cheers
;Daniel

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Daniel Baird
They say a million monkeys typing will eventually produce Shakespeare.
 Thanks to commenters on YouTube, we now know this is not true.

 
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Ken Girard  
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 More options Jan 1 2008, 2:24 am
From: Ken Girard <ken.gir...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:24:15 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 1 2008 2:24 am
Subject: Re: Tips for using TW as a Website
nanbudh,
You can check out the publisher set up at:
http://lewcid.googlepages.com/presentation_empty_full.html

And totally off topic:

>They say a million monkeys typing will eventually produce Shakespeare.
>Thanks to commenters on YouTube, we now know this is not true.

Daniel, I disagree with this statement.
Not more then 53 of those commenters on YouTube were actual monkeys.
And suggesting that some of those commenters were monkeys is insulting
to the monkeys.

Happy New Year everyone,
Ken Girard

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Thanks to commenters on YouTube, we now know this is not true.

 
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Morris Gray  
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 More options Jan 1 2008, 3:24 am
From: Morris Gray <msg...@symbex.net.au>
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 00:24:49 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 1 2008 3:24 am
Subject: Re: Tips for using TW as a Website

> * I also wish to beautify my website a bit so please suggest what all the
> colors in the ColorPallete mean?

Here is a standard ColorPalette and the sections of the TiddlyWiki
that the ColorPalette affects.
http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com/#TiddlyWikiColors

Morris Gray
http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
A TiddlyWiki help file for beginners

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Daniel Baird  
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 More options Jan 1 2008, 3:50 am
From: "Daniel Baird" <danielba...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:50:51 +1000
Local: Tues, Jan 1 2008 3:50 am
Subject: Re: [tw] Re: Tips for using TW as a Website
On 1/1/08, Ken Girard <ken.gir...@gmail.com> wrote:

> nanbudh,
> You can check out the publisher set up at:
> http://lewcid.googlepages.com/presentation_empty_full.html

Note that there are two things in that page.. an actual slideshow
displaying thing, whuch you don't want, and a way to show one layout
to normal people and another layout to youself -- which is what you
want.

If you open this link, you'll see the author version of the same page:
http://lewcid.googlepages.com/presentation_empty_full.html#author:true

> And totally off topic:
> >They say a million monkeys typing will eventually produce Shakespeare.
> >Thanks to commenters on YouTube, we now know this is not true.

> Daniel, I disagree with this statement.
> Not more then 53 of those commenters on YouTube were actual monkeys.
> And suggesting that some of those commenters were monkeys is insulting
> to the monkeys.

Like all nerd jokes, I was inspired by xkcd:
http://xkcd.com/202/

:)

--
Daniel Baird
They say a million monkeys typing will eventually produce Shakespeare.
 Thanks to commenters on YouTube, we now know this is not true.


 
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wolfgang  
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 More options Jan 1 2008, 7:19 am
From: wolfgang <wolfgangl...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 04:19:49 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 1 2008 7:19 am
Subject: Re: Tips for using TW as a Website
Hi nanbudh,

beside what already was suggested, you might take a further look at
ChangeModePlugin made by BidiX. It's actually a build on and
adaptation of PresentationPlugin with one more mode: Admin additional
to Author and Reader. Here its link:

http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/#ChangeModePlugin

Regards,

W.

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 More options Jan 1 2008, 9:53 am
From: FND <Ace_No...@gmx.net>
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:53:55 +0100
Local: Tues, Jan 1 2008 9:53 am
Subject: Re: [tw] Re: Tips for using TW as a Website

> Here is a standard ColorPalette and the sections of the TiddlyWiki
> that the ColorPalette affects.

In addition to that overview, you might find use for the
PaletteViewMacro (e.g. to compare different themes' ColorPalettes):
     http://devpad.tiddlyspot.com/#PaletteViewMacro

-- F.


 
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Ken Girard  
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 More options Jan 1 2008, 9:00 pm
From: Ken Girard <ken.gir...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:00:07 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 1 2008 9:00 pm
Subject: Re: Tips for using TW as a Website
And then there is the other option: Use the HideWhen plugin so that if
the user name is 'XYZ' then it shows one set of toolbars, and a
different set if the user name is anything else.

<span macro="showWhen tiddler.modifier == 'XYZ'">
  <span macro='toolbar editTiddler'></span>
</span>

You can also make it so that the edit button shows up if it is a local
file, but not if it is being viewed over http.
Same for things like newTiddler, save, etc.

Ken Girard

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nanbudh  
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 More options Jan 1 2008, 10:04 pm
From: nanbudh <nanb...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 19:04:33 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 1 2008 10:04 pm
Subject: Re: Tips for using TW as a Website
Thank you all for so much info. I needed it as I am a bit overwhelmed
by all the TW options/adaptations and plugins and tweaks etc. It ll
take some time to digest it all in. Thanks for your responses.

nanbudh


 
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JaredFreeman  
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 More options Jan 2 2008, 8:14 am
From: JaredFreeman <free...@aptima.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 05:14:03 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Jan 2 2008 8:14 am
Subject: Re: Tips for using TW as a Website
Nanbudh -- The current version of tiddlywiki (v2.3.0) automatically
hides the edit button and systemConfig menu when the tiddlywiki is
accessed at an http address. I can't recall if this is the default
configuration, or if you have to set one of the configuration options
but it's there and it works. See jaredfreeman.com for an example.
Using t.w. in this way requires that you edit locally (on your system)
and then post the file to your server (via Putty, WinSCP, or some
other free utility). There are other solutions, but this is so simple
(edit locally, open WinSCP session, drag and drop edited file to
server, close) that I, for one, haven't bothered with them. If you
need to enable others to edit your website, though, you will need to
look into those solutions. -- Jared

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Eric Shulman  
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 More options Jan 2 2008, 8:31 am
From: Eric Shulman <elsdes...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 05:31:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Tips for using TW as a Website

> Nanbudh -- The current version of tiddlywiki (v2.3.0) automatically
> hides the edit button and systemConfig menu when the tiddlywiki is
> accessed at an http address. I can't recall if this is the default

Actually, the "edit" button is NOT hidden... it is just changed to
"view"... and when you press it, you still get a regular tiddler
editor display and can see the tiddler source definition, but the text
area is disabled so you can't *change* that definition.

I think that Nanbudh wants to *remove* that toolbar command when
viewing over HTTP, so that visitors to his site won't be able to view
the tiddler source definitions.

Also... by "systemConfig" menu, I am guessing you mean the Backstage
menu...  in which case then, yes, viewing over HTTP *does* hide the
Backstage menu by default.

Note: both of these TW standard behaviors can be overridden by
clearing the "Hide editing features when viewed over HTTP" checkbox
(see [[AdvancedOptions]])

-e


 
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