PalmTiddlyWiki or TiddlyWiki on the Palm

[ccahua]

Hello,

I don't know JS from CSS, but have benefitted greatly from all your
excellent contributions toying with TW over the past few days.

Here's my small bit to the TiddlyWiki collective:
TiddlyWiki on the Palm

Basics:
-Reqs: A Palm running OS5 Garnet 5.4 or better, an SD Card
-Create a tiddler on the Palm via memopad, TeikeiDA
-leverage a text editor like SiEd to insert the tiddler to the
TiddlyWiki onboard the external card
-Pass through the hotsync cradle, connecting via a card reader app on
the Palm or use a SD card reader when at the desktop.
-If John Haller's Portable FireFox is on the SD card, the TW can be run
from there.

I also found out that Mark Tamura's ShortCut5 and benRoe's macros work
excellently for TW editing on the Palm. The 4K memo limit is a beastie
though.
With the inlineHTML feature that Jeremy Ruston included, one can export
via ShadowPlan, a dynamic outline and send it off as a tiddler all
within the Palm!!! HeeHaw

If I only knew how to program, I would get HB++ or Caslsoft and make an
app with a single form to knock out tiddlers in div containers. Anyone?
Maybe someday.

Instructions, TeikeiDA macros can be found in the PalmTiddlyWiki at my
blog:
http://ccahua.typepad.com/binky/2005/11/tiddlywiki_on_t.html

Best regards,
Tony

ps my wife is not taking too kindly to my tiddlywiking, so its time to
take a break :-)

[gilot]

Hello, Tony

I am using a palmone Zire72, the OS is 5.2.8
can I implement your method on my palm?
thanks~

gilot

[RunningUtes]

I have something similiar. I created two shortcuts (go to Prefs ->
shortcuts)
T1 -> '<div tiddler="" modified="yyyymmddhhmm" '
T2 ->'modifier="YourName" tags="">
</div>'

That way to create a Tiddler anywhere, I just write T1, T2 then fill in
the blanks

[Jacques Turbé]

1)
To the tools you mention I'll add Fitaly keyboard (you can hook up to
eight macros to each key, activated by a single slide), or more
powerfull InstantText for Palm.
If you restrict yourself to Wikinames for tiddlers and for tags and use
Tiddlytagling just copy and paste tiddlers (view mode) in memos, and
use psLink on Palm (need OS5+) : a tap on a wikiname make you jump to
the other tiddler-memo :)
If you copy tiddlers in edit mode links will work (psLink use single
brackets), but you'll see TW syntax in your memos.

You also have powerfull scripting features on Palm with pTools and
pedit (Paul Nevaï).

2)
More elaborated ways for a "dialog" between TW and Palm :

If you use some scripting app with regular expressions (I use
NoteTabPro 'clips' for that), and view your memos on Palm through a
Wiki layer (AcroWiki or MobileNote : those apps have there "wikibars"
for easy styling, and also use either double brackets, either WikiNames
for links) ) you may convert the storearea of your TW page (or part of
it) in memos with wikisyntax conversion (well for usual headings,
enrichments or colors, you won't have tables !) you paste on
Palmdesktop. You can do the reverse.

Tiddler name <=> Memos first line
tiddler tags <=> memos second line
modifier = me <=
modified = conversion date
tiddler body <=> remaining lines of memos.

On Palm you have nice utilities like MemoLeaf that let you have batch
operations, templates, keywords for memos, or FindMemos that creates
index and backlinks memos.

So, you may have a "microcontents experience" on Pam very alike TW
(with Palm limits !). I began that five years before knowing TW !

Jacques

[ccahua]

Hello,

gilot, Sorry yes I meant to say OS 5 is good enough for TeikeiDA and
SiEd.
I'm using TeikeiDA 1.3.0 and SiEd .911 I think.

RunningUtes and the famous Jacques Turbe of cyberpoche ;-) have it
right on. :-)

The plain tiddler content is created then wrapped with the <div> tag
via shortcuts or macros and parameters like tags can be inserted later.

I like TeikeiDA because it is a DA that is app anywhere as long as
there is a focused text field, plus I can import my tags as TeiKeiDA
lists and pick them off the macro.
Benroes SiEd also has a macro feature so you can create one for the div
wrapper and make the tiddler directly.
Like Jacques mentioned, Paul Nevai's pTools and Pedit apps work well
for complex text operations. His pScript can also be configured to
probably do even more, but I haven't deciphered its mechanics.

I'm coming to the clipboard limit on my tiddlers around 1000 chars
(including the div wrapper and expressions) and finding that a good
workaround is Mark Tamura's Shortcut5 (also for Palm running 5 or
better) which goes up to 4096 chars per shortcut and you can have I
think 50. Besides I can personally vouch that composing tiddlers by
writing graffiti can be tiring even with SmartCell's TextPlus. The
ThinkOutside keyboard has been handsaver.

I'm finding that Jeff of codejedi's Shadowplan has basic exports that
you can wrap with a html tag to save in the TW via the inlineHTML
feature. This is cool because shadowplan can import todo and datebook
events to a central list which can then be exported. The only bit
missing is an app or script to parse the outline as separate or grouped
tiddlers as needed.

I play some more and flesh out these tips to the palmTW.html

Have fun and keep sharing!

Best,
tony

[MilchFlasche]

Gee, ccahua, thanks for your developping!

It's a pity that for a Palm that runs with Big5 encoding, TW files
containing Chinese scripts would always be unreadable on the handheld;
and after appending some tiddlers following your way and saving it, the
whole TW file is unrunnable on PC. But I guess it shall be always
working for western users:) Good job!

And for copying/pasting large chunks on Palm, I recommend LClipDA:)
---
"The Tragedy of Flying Chinese Who Could Never Be A Palm-TiddlyWikier"
/sniff/

[ccahua]

Hello,

I found a better text editor in case there are folks want to edit their
TW on their Palm.

It's called cardtxt from GuDong.
http://www.freewarepalm.com/authors/cardtxt_gudong.shtml
The great thing is that DAs like TeikeiDA, pToolset and even LClipDA
(thanks MilchFlasche :-) run within the program so you can bypass
having to create the content in another application!

Unfortunately it only works with txt files, so you have to use SiEd's
file manager to change the extension of the TW html-->txt, make your
tiddlers, then change the TW extension back to html. Think of it as
SneakerSync. Don't try changing the extension via FileZ, I found it
doesn't work. :-(

>> And if you're a developer, you can edit the js of your TW!

Alas all of this, I've only tested in my native language English so
ymmv. My wife was from the USSR and I already have enough trouble
learning Russian :-)

MilchFlashe:
I wish I were a developer and knew more. Thanks to you and others we
can all learn something new.
If a TW in Chinese can be rendered as a txt file and the characters can
be rendered or represented as entities then maybe you too can be a
PalmTiddlyWikier :-)
If it is of any use, perhaps one of these Chinese localizations may
help:
http://www.waterworld.com.hk/ww/index.php
http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/docs/palmos50/os53overview.html
http://www.dyts.com/
I've also tried Piloc but only for Russian.
If you find something works, please do share.

Best,
tony