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Amzg

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Sep 4, 2008, 12:09:32 PM9/4/08
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I'm studying up on how to get organizations to use wikis.
In case you too happen to be interested in this, here's a google talk
lecture that is general and okay;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcyyMVZVHlE

tiddlywiki is (very) briefly mentioned at around 11.38
- but it *is* mentioned :-D

/Mat

Alex Hough

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Sep 4, 2008, 1:06:33 PM9/4/08
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interesting that she also mentions working at a particular merchant bank. I recall reading the big tiddly boss men working there.

How far are you getting with getting organisations to use wikis? I am attempting this in Manchester UK. TiddlyWiki,  pbwiki .... it will take some time.

Security regimes seem to be a the main problem. IE 6 and firewalls, no javascript etc.



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Alex Hough

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Sep 4, 2008, 1:25:05 PM9/4/08
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"Social software vendor Socialtext brought me in to work with Dresdner
Kleinwort Wasserstein (DrKW, now simply Dresdner Kleinwort) and help
them understand how to use and spread adoption of their internal
wiki."

http://suw.org.uk/clients/drkw-case-study/

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Amzg

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Sep 4, 2008, 3:01:08 PM9/4/08
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On Sep 4, 7:06 pm, "Alex Hough" <r.a.ho...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> recall reading the big tiddly boss men working there.

(What do you actually mean with this? Guys from the tw community?
Implementing tw there?)


> How far are you getting with getting organisations to use wikis?

Well, I didn't even start yet. I have some thoughts for a wiki-thingy
that I hope may be of value for e.g organisations and I'm kind of just
trying to get a feel on how to appeal to organizations.

Yeah, security will be an issue, for sure...

/Mat

Eric Weir

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Sep 4, 2008, 3:45:25 PM9/4/08
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On 9/4/2008 Amzg wrote:

> Well, I didn't even start yet. I have some thoughts for a wiki-thingy
> that I hope may be of value for e.g organisations and I'm kind of just
> trying to get a feel on how to appeal to organizations.

Somebody here mentioned pbwiki earlier today. I had just come across
through a link on the website of an area Linux group. Checked it out
briefly. Superficially reminds of of Google Sites. Definitely pitched at
organizations. At some point, possibly in the not too distant future,
I'm gonna recommend something along the lines of the latter or Basecamp
to a collaboration that I'm working with.

I can imagine TW evolving -- among other ways -- in this direction. But
given its current state of development and my novice's level of
proficiency with it, I would not recommend it for that purpose. [Though
I have recommended it to individuals I thought might be intrigued by its
versatility.]

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Alex Hough

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Sep 4, 2008, 4:08:52 PM9/4/08
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> (What do you actually mean with this? Guys from the tw community?
> Implementing tw there?)

The blog article mentions JP Rangaswami, who if i am not mistaken
worked with Jeremy at the bank and was responsible for Osmosoft
becoming part of BT.

Alex Hough

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Sep 4, 2008, 4:31:09 PM9/4/08
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My attempts with introducing PB wiki to group of health care
professionals was not a success. In some ways google docs - works a
bit like a wiki. The workers can all type on the same page, and it has
'track changes'; it looks like word too and you can download it as
word.

Attempts to introduce people to TW have exposed a couple of barriers:
1) the name: i just get funny looks, like i am advocating a toy.
2) EI6 and firewalls: popups suggesting that there is a dangerous risk
after first tiddler is closed. One org has spent on Lotus note and
can't use Firefox - they clash apparently.
3) Saving changes - funny messages poping up.

Most people I have showed are not patient enough. Intelligent folk,
doing complex jobs 'just haven't got the time' , despite being very
impressed when seeing me use it. They think I am doing some kind of
computer coding rather than just taking notes.


On the video that AMG posted, - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcyyMVZVHlE
Suw Charman-Anderson (for that is her name) speaks about not scaring
the people you are trying to introduce technology to. Their comfort
zone is Microsoft office. I think it goes further. I recently sent a
piece of writing to someone. It was in Word but not 'vanilla' - times
new roman , 12pt, bold or italics but no more style.


Mrs Charman-Anderson appears to be a leading authority on adoption of
tech. here is her blog:

http://suw.org.uk/

Alex

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