Is there a simpler Word to TW converter?

[kev]

The TW Edit view is not the most user friendly GUI environment to work
in. I prefer a visual, WYSIWYG view. What I do now is type a bit, then
close the tiddler to see the results, and then open it again. If the
text is long that's OK but when it comes to writing out lists,
subheadings, numbers etc I wish I had a nice Word like interface. The
obvious solution is to do the design in Word and then convert to TW. I
saw the Macro but I can't get it to work.

Incidentally, if I cut and past bullet points from Word to a tiddler I
get the bullet points but I don't see any bullet point code. What am I
seeing - a graphic?

Thanks

[Krystal Tigeress]

Incidentally, if I cut and past bullet points from Word to a tiddler I
get the bullet points but I don't see any bullet point code. What am I
seeing - a graphic?

-- You're seeing a character, not a graphic.  Bullets as well as other symbols are actually encoded into many fonts, assigning "list" functions is only a matter of formatting.  (If you go into your computer's character map you can see a lot of the different characters each font has.)

- WRose

[schilke]

> The TW Edit view is not the most user friendly GUI environment to work
> in. I prefer a visual, WYSIWYG view

you definitely need to try "VisualTW"
http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html

HTH

--
schilke

[kev]

thanks,

That looks just what I was wanting. However, I don't understand all
the installation instructions.

I downloaded the editor (same as I use in Joomla) and imported the
Wysiwyg plugin and the Wysiwyg plugin custom default configuration
script. I addded the preHead script.

Now I'm stuck at the "use editHtml macro in EditTemplate"
instruction.

What does that mean? What exactly do I have to add or change? The
EditTemplate on your website is exactly the same as mine. Do I have to
do something with the configuration script?

After restarting my TW (offline and no spaces in the path) nothing has
changed.

I'm a good example of a semi-PC literate user! If I can't follow the
instructions even less experienced users are going to throw a fit! I
don't want to use the downloadable Visual TW in its entirety because I
will have to redo all my menus.

> you definitely need to try "VisualTW"http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html
>
> HTH
>
> --
> schilke

[schilke]

ok, I see, it was dangerous to lead you there - so I had to install
FCKEditor (with TW) myself for the first time... ;-)
On the other hand I can tell now that it works ...

> That looks just what I was wanting. However, I don't understand all
> the installation instructions

to be honest: I know FCKEditor a bit and TW pretty well (as an
experienced user at least...) but it also took me some time -

> Now I'm stuck at the "use editHtml macro in EditTemplate"
> instruction
>

> What does that mean? What exactly do I have to add or change?

EditTemplate is a shadow tiddler - but it seems you already found it -
if you're using a standard TW it contains:

<div class='editor' macro='edit text'></div>

as the 5th statement. Change that into

<div class="editor" macro="editHtml text"></div>

Save & reload - try to edit a tiddler - that's it (if everything went
right).

> The EditTemplate on your website is exactly the same as mine

Sorry, but it's not my site :-O
I believe that Pascal uses a different edit template - not the
standard one.

(note: if anything goes wrong - just delete the EditTemplate tiddler -
you will still have the shadow tiddler with the original code left)

HTH

--
schilke

[kev]

OK thanks. The <div class="editor" macro="editHtml text"></div> was
the final bit. I had to delete the EditTemplate tiddler to get back my
editing and then it worked but with some "Can't find this or that js
message".

However, the familiar fckedit window opened.

Unless I have missed something it is not quite ready to use.

1. Now I can't create new tiddlers in the normal way. I wanted to add
another plugin but the normal cut and paste method is not accepted
even in html code view. I did install Eric's html plugin first.
2. I can't now see any of my TW code. It is hidden somehow.
3. I can of course create nice GUI text but the idea was to be able to
switch on the GUI when I needed it, not to hide the original code.
What is needed is the ability to switch back to Wiki mode but the
plugin takes over completely.

I guess Wikibar is the only alternative for now. A pity because it is
great to be able to get back to a design-type interface.

Oh, well, back to the drawing board for the moment!

[wolfgang]

On 7 Sep., 13:13, kev <kj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I downloaded the editor (same as I use in Joomla) and imported the
> Wysiwyg plugin and the Wysiwyg plugin custom default configuration
> script. I addded the preHead script.
>
> Now I'm stuck at the "use editHtml macro in EditTemplate"
> instruction.

Hi Kev,

Try tagging those tiddlers which you want to edit with Wysiwyg with
HTML.

Get the alternative HTMLEditTemplate Tiddler pasted.

Reload and if you want to look Tiddler with the regular EditTemplate,
just remove the HTML tag.

Regards,

W.

[wolfgang]

I forgot: You also need to import http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html#TaggedTemplateTweak.

[schilke]

> I forgot: You also need to import
> http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html#TaggedTemplateTweak.

be nice - use the link to the author's site: "TaggedTemplateTweak"
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#TaggedTemplateTweak

@kev: if you want the system relevant stuff to be edited by the
standard editor and use fckeditor for the rest, you could also rename
the default EditTemplate to systemConfigEditTemplate and use the
modified one with "<div class="editor" macro="editHtml text"></div>"
for everything else in EditTemplate

--
schilke