BibblyWiki is a free TiddlyWiki adaptation for students, teachers and book lovers at http://www.giffmex.org/bibblywiki.html. It is for bibliographies, book notes and personal library maintenance.
You click 'new book' or 'new article' in the sidebar menu, enter data in the form fields, add notes if you wish, add link to the book cover image url, and hit done. BibblyWiki then generates a pre-formatted bibliography and several indexes (by topic, by call number, by title, etc) based on your data. You can even tweak the colors.
Think of it like a watered-down TiddlyWiki version of programs like Scholar's Aid, EndNotes, etc. with a little bit of LibraryThing thrown in, too.
There are a few features I am still working on, but BibblyWiki is now very functional. I hope you like it. I just wish I had had something like this years ago.
very interesting idea! As I am heavily using BibTeX in combination with LaTeX any tool that can not import and export BibTeX or at least another format that JabRef is able to import and export, BibTeX compatibility is a must-have feature from my point of view.
So my question: I think that this could be really difficult, but at least a BibTeX and RIS import would be very helpful. Did you consider that? Then, BibblyWiki might get a very powerful extension to tools like JabRef which is very strong at maintaining bibliographical databases but not that good for taking notes, cross-linking entries, etc.
Martin
On 1 Mrz., 18:25, "Dave Gifford" <g...@giffmex.org> wrote:
> BibblyWiki is a free TiddlyWiki adaptation for students, teachers and > book > lovers athttp://www.giffmex.org/bibblywiki.html. It is for > bibliographies, book notes and personal library maintenance.
> You click 'new book' or 'new article' in the sidebar menu, enter data > in the form fields, add notes if you wish, add link to the book cover > image url, and hit done. BibblyWiki then generates a pre-formatted > bibliography and several indexes (by topic, by call number, by title, > etc) based on your data. You can even tweak the colors.
> Think of it like a watered-down TiddlyWiki version of programs like > Scholar's Aid, EndNotes, etc. with a little bit of LibraryThing thrown > in, too.
> There are a few features I am still working on, but BibblyWiki is now > very functional. I hope you like it. I just wish I had had something > like this years ago.
I heavily use BibTeX for maintaining my growing collection of references for my thesis. Any way to link my extensive and painfully collected bibliography to a stronger note taking tool for annotating those references would make my day. :)
Alejandra (fellow 'chilanga' :) )
On Mar 1, 11:39 pm, "Lvood" <elwood...@web.de> wrote:
> very interesting idea! As I am heavily using BibTeX in combination > with LaTeX any tool that can not import and export BibTeX or at least > another format that JabRef is able to import and export, BibTeX > compatibility is a must-have feature from my point of view.
> So my question: I think that this could be really difficult, but at > least a BibTeX and RIS import would be very helpful. Did you consider > that? > Then, BibblyWiki might get a very powerful extension to tools like > JabRef which is very strong at maintaining bibliographical databases > but not that good for taking notes, cross-linking entries, etc.
> Martin
> On 1 Mrz., 18:25, "Dave Gifford" <g...@giffmex.org> wrote:
> > BibblyWiki is a free TiddlyWiki adaptation for students, teachers and > > book > > lovers athttp://www.giffmex.org/bibblywiki.html. It is for > > bibliographies, book notes and personal library maintenance.
> > You click 'new book' or 'new article' in the sidebar menu, enter data > > in the form fields, add notes if you wish, add link to the book cover > > image url, and hit done. BibblyWiki then generates a pre-formatted > > bibliography and several indexes (by topic, by call number, by title, > > etc) based on your data. You can even tweak the colors.
> > Think of it like a watered-down TiddlyWiki version of programs like > > Scholar's Aid, EndNotes, etc. with a little bit of LibraryThing thrown > > in, too.
> > There are a few features I am still working on, but BibblyWiki is now > > very functional. I hope you like it. I just wish I had had something > > like this years ago.
I will have to investigate BibTex. I confess I am not up on what's out there. I bought Scholar's aid last year and find TiddlyWiki a better tool for organizing such things. And most programs cost an arm and a leg. I wanted students to have something for free, something I wish I had had.
Uh...yeah. I think a project of that nature would be way beyond my training and the time I have available. I'm just a lowly missionary teaching at a seminary and tinkering with TW on the side. Talking about figuring out how to import and export data from other formats is beyond me. I might be able to create a TW with a form that allows for the entry fields and types, but even so, such a TW file would already be fairly bloated even before entering the content.
Of course BibblyWiki is free and someone else can certainly take what I've done and adapt it if they have the knowhow.
Bendiciones,
David Gifford
On Mar 2, 10:52 am, "jandi" <alejandra.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I heavily use BibTeX for maintaining my growing collection of > references for my thesis. Any way to link my extensive and painfully > collected bibliography to a stronger note taking tool for annotating > those references would make my day. :)
> Alejandra > (fellow 'chilanga' :) )
> On Mar 1, 11:39 pm, "Lvood" <elwood...@web.de> wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> > very interesting idea! As I am heavily using BibTeX in combination > > with LaTeX any tool that can not import and export BibTeX or at least > > another format that JabRef is able to import and export, BibTeX > > compatibility is a must-have feature from my point of view.
> > So my question: I think that this could be really difficult, but at > > least a BibTeX and RIS import would be very helpful. Did you consider > > that? > > Then, BibblyWiki might get a very powerful extension to tools like > > JabRef which is very strong at maintaining bibliographical databases > > but not that good for taking notes, cross-linking entries, etc.
> > Martin
> > On 1 Mrz., 18:25, "Dave Gifford" <g...@giffmex.org> wrote:
> > > BibblyWiki is a free TiddlyWiki adaptation for students, teachers and > > > book > > > lovers athttp://www.giffmex.org/bibblywiki.html. It is for > > > bibliographies, book notes and personal library maintenance.
> > > You click 'new book' or 'new article' in the sidebar menu, enter data > > > in the form fields, add notes if you wish, add link to the book cover > > > image url, and hit done. BibblyWiki then generates a pre-formatted > > > bibliography and several indexes (by topic, by call number, by title, > > > etc) based on your data. You can even tweak the colors.
> > > Think of it like a watered-down TiddlyWiki version of programs like > > > Scholar's Aid, EndNotes, etc. with a little bit of LibraryThing thrown > > > in, too.
> > > There are a few features I am still working on, but BibblyWiki is now > > > very functional. I hope you like it. I just wish I had had something > > > like this years ago.
I see your point that adding all the field types supported in BibTeX might be a daunting task, and would result in humongous forms, specially considering all the different types of references you could add.
But the whole point of having a separate bib file is to have a nice little reusable database of references. I'd be happier just to be able to link to the key of a particular reference, and add notes. Mmmh, will have to think more about how to best make use of it.
Thanks for working on this adaptation. :)
Alejandra Coyoacán, ja, but currently in Canada
On Mar 2, 2:53 pm, "Dave Gifford" <g...@giffmex.org> wrote:
> Uh...yeah. I think a project of that nature would be way beyond my > training and the time I have available. I'm just a lowly missionary > teaching at a seminary and tinkering with TW on the side. Talking > about figuring out how to import and export data from other formats is > beyond me. I might be able to create a TW with a form that allows for > the entry fields and types, but even so, such a TW file would already > be fairly bloated even before entering the content.
> Of course BibblyWiki is free and someone else can certainly take what > I've done and adapt it if they have the knowhow.
> Bendiciones,
> David Gifford
> On Mar 2, 10:52 am, "jandi" <alejandra.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > You just beat me to posting that, Martin.
> > I heavily use BibTeX for maintaining my growing collection of > > references for my thesis. Any way to link my extensive and painfully > > collected bibliography to a stronger note taking tool for annotating > > those references would make my day. :)
> > Alejandra > > (fellow 'chilanga' :) )
> > On Mar 1, 11:39 pm, "Lvood" <elwood...@web.de> wrote:
> > > Hi Dave,
> > > very interesting idea! As I am heavily using BibTeX in combination > > > with LaTeX any tool that can not import and export BibTeX or at least > > > another format that JabRef is able to import and export, BibTeX > > > compatibility is a must-have feature from my point of view.
> > > So my question: I think that this could be really difficult, but at > > > least a BibTeX and RIS import would be very helpful. Did you consider > > > that? > > > Then, BibblyWiki might get a very powerful extension to tools like > > > JabRef which is very strong at maintaining bibliographical databases > > > but not that good for taking notes, cross-linking entries, etc.
> > > > BibblyWiki is a free TiddlyWiki adaptation for students, teachers and > > > > book > > > > lovers athttp://www.giffmex.org/bibblywiki.html. It is for > > > > bibliographies, book notes and personal library maintenance.
> > > > You click 'new book' or 'new article' in the sidebar menu, enter data > > > > in the form fields, add notes if you wish, add link to the book cover > > > > image url, and hit done. BibblyWiki then generates a pre-formatted > > > > bibliography and several indexes (by topic, by call number, by title, > > > > etc) based on your data. You can even tweak the colors.
> > > > Think of it like a watered-down TiddlyWiki version of programs like > > > > Scholar's Aid, EndNotes, etc. with a little bit of LibraryThing thrown > > > > in, too.
> > > > There are a few features I am still working on, but BibblyWiki is now > > > > very functional. I hope you like it. I just wish I had had something > > > > like this years ago.
I already thought that this would be a very difficult task and very probably too difficult to be integrated in a tiddlywiki.
However, as Alejandra says, it might be enough to have a clear reference to a bibtex entry in the BibblyWiki and not to import all the bibliographic data (my most important bibtex library is about 2.5 MB big at the moment and it is a plain text file, so we surely would not want to import all that information in the BibblyWiki..).
Every entry in a bibtex file should have a so called bibtex key (that's the first character string after the opening parantheses { at the beginning of each bibtex entry. So if this bibtex key would be included in the BibblyWiki, it could be possible to relate notes in the wiki to the bibliographic information in the BibTeX file.
I'm still not sure how to make use of that effectively, but the BibblyWiki looks very interesting.
Martin
On 2 Mrz., 22:53, "Dave Gifford" <g...@giffmex.org> wrote:
> Uh...yeah. I think a project of that nature would be way beyond my > training and the time I have available. I'm just a lowly missionary > teaching at a seminary and tinkering with TW on the side. Talking > about figuring out how to import and export data from other formats is > beyond me. I might be able to create a TW with a form that allows for > the entry fields and types, but even so, such a TW file would already > be fairly bloated even before entering the content.
> Of course BibblyWiki is free and someone else can certainly take what > I've done and adapt it if they have the knowhow.
> Bendiciones,
> David Gifford
> On Mar 2, 10:52 am, "jandi" <alejandra.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > You just beat me to posting that, Martin.
> > I heavily use BibTeX for maintaining my growing collection of > > references for my thesis. Any way to link my extensive and painfully > > collected bibliography to a stronger note taking tool for annotating > > those references would make my day. :)
> > Alejandra > > (fellow 'chilanga' :) )
> > On Mar 1, 11:39 pm, "Lvood" <elwood...@web.de> wrote:
> > > Hi Dave,
> > > very interesting idea! As I am heavily using BibTeX in combination > > > with LaTeX any tool that can not import and export BibTeX or at least > > > another format that JabRef is able to import and export, BibTeX > > > compatibility is a must-have feature from my point of view.
> > > So my question: I think that this could be really difficult, but at > > > least a BibTeX and RIS import would be very helpful. Did you consider > > > that? > > > Then, BibblyWiki might get a very powerful extension to tools like > > > JabRef which is very strong at maintaining bibliographical databases > > > but not that good for taking notes, cross-linking entries, etc.
> > > > BibblyWiki is a free TiddlyWiki adaptation for students, teachers and > > > > book > > > > lovers athttp://www.giffmex.org/bibblywiki.html. It is for > > > > bibliographies, book notes and personal library maintenance.
> > > > You click 'new book' or 'new article' in the sidebar menu, enter data > > > > in the form fields, add notes if you wish, add link to the book cover > > > > image url, and hit done. BibblyWiki then generates a pre-formatted > > > > bibliography and several indexes (by topic, by call number, by title, > > > > etc) based on your data. You can even tweak the colors.
> > > > Think of it like a watered-down TiddlyWiki version of programs like > > > > Scholar's Aid, EndNotes, etc. with a little bit of LibraryThing thrown > > > > in, too.
> > > > There are a few features I am still working on, but BibblyWiki is now > > > > very functional. I hope you like it. I just wish I had had something > > > > like this years ago.
I'm also using LaTeX for my thesis and my main BibTeX file contains more than 1500 entries and has a file size of more than 2.5 MB. I'm using JabRef for maintaining it and currently, when reading a paper or book I'm taking notes (or at least try to do so) about the contents in the "review" field.
The major drawbacks of this are: - it blows up my bibtex file even more - I can take only plain text notes, but as my work field is engineeringk, it often it would be nice to include a mathematical formula, a graph or a sketch...
So several times I already considered finding another way for taking notes but did not really start trying it ...
BibblyWiki could be a possibility, however I'm not sure if it could deal with formulae and graphics (that also might blow up the html file and even make it unusable...). For plain text notes however it might be a good choice. It could be used as a flexible notebook and if the bibtex key of the referenced source would be included, it could be used while writing (and citing) even without having the bibliographic data available - you just type cite{bibtexkeyOfSource} and LaTeX would do the rest... why not!
The only thing I would like to avoid is copying or re-entering the bibliographic information which already exists in the bibtex-File. As BibblyWiki (at least as far as I noticed) does not distinguish certain data fields for the bibliographic information, one could easily export the bibtex data to plain text or html and then copy them in the BibblyWiki entry.
So the only thing to add to the wiki necessarily would be a field for a "unique citation identifier" (which would be the bibtex key in our case).
Martin
On 3 Mrz., 09:35, "jandi" <alejandra.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I see your point that adding all the field types supported in BibTeX > might be a daunting task, and would result in humongous forms, > specially considering all the different types of references you could > add.
> But the whole point of having a separate bib file is to have a nice > little reusable database of references. I'd be happier just to be > able to link to the key of a particular reference, and add notes. > Mmmh, will have to think more about how to best make use of it.
> Thanks for working on this adaptation. :)
> Alejandra > Coyoacán, ja, but currently in Canada
> On Mar 2, 2:53 pm, "Dave Gifford" <g...@giffmex.org> wrote:
> > Uh...yeah. I think a project of that nature would be way beyond my > > training and the time I have available. I'm just a lowly missionary > > teaching at a seminary and tinkering with TW on the side. Talking > > about figuring out how to import and export data from other formats is > > beyond me. I might be able to create a TW with a form that allows for > > the entry fields and types, but even so, such a TW file would already > > be fairly bloated even before entering the content.
> > Of course BibblyWiki is free and someone else can certainly take what > > I've done and adapt it if they have the knowhow.
> > Bendiciones,
> > David Gifford
> > On Mar 2, 10:52 am, "jandi" <alejandra.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > You just beat me to posting that, Martin.
> > > I heavily use BibTeX for maintaining my growing collection of > > > references for my thesis. Any way to link my extensive and painfully > > > collected bibliography to a stronger note taking tool for annotating > > > those references would make my day. :)
> > > Alejandra > > > (fellow 'chilanga' :) )
> > > On Mar 1, 11:39 pm, "Lvood" <elwood...@web.de> wrote:
> > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > very interesting idea! As I am heavily using BibTeX in combination > > > > with LaTeX any tool that can not import and export BibTeX or at least > > > > another format that JabRef is able to import and export, BibTeX > > > > compatibility is a must-have feature from my point of view.
> > > > So my question: I think that this could be really difficult, but at > > > > least a BibTeX and RIS import would be very helpful. Did you consider > > > > that? > > > > Then, BibblyWiki might get a very powerful extension to tools like > > > > JabRef which is very strong at maintaining bibliographical databases > > > > but not that good for taking notes, cross-linking entries, etc.
> > > > > BibblyWiki is a free TiddlyWiki adaptation for students, teachers and > > > > > book > > > > > lovers athttp://www.giffmex.org/bibblywiki.html. It is for > > > > > bibliographies, book notes and personal library maintenance.
> > > > > You click 'new book' or 'new article' in the sidebar menu, enter data > > > > > in the form fields, add notes if you wish, add link to the book cover > > > > > image url, and hit done. BibblyWiki then generates a pre-formatted > > > > > bibliography and several indexes (by topic, by call number, by title, > > > > > etc) based on your data. You can even tweak the colors.
> > > > > Think of it like a watered-down TiddlyWiki version of programs like > > > > > Scholar's Aid, EndNotes, etc. with a little bit of LibraryThing thrown > > > > > in, too.
> > > > > There are a few features I am still working on, but BibblyWiki is now > > > > > very functional. I hope you like it. I just wish I had had something > > > > > like this years ago.
Glad to see you guys are brainstorming on how to use this.
To add a field to the NewBookTemplate on which the new book macro is based, just go into edit mode by doubleclicking the tiddler and add the following text:
Oh and graphics aren't embedded in TW. TW only allows for image links to file locations on or offline. Get the filepath or URL and you can add an image this way:
[img[url or filepath of image file.jpg]]
As for formulas, I'm not sure. Feel free to check in the TiddlyWiki Google Group.
If you don't want the bibliographic info I stuffed in BibblyWiki, you can just use any TiddlyWiki and add a tag for the BibTeX key number to the tiddler for that book or resource. Or else have the tiddler title be the key number. That way you could search for the key number or whatever content you put in the tiddler.
So you wouldn't need BibblyWiki so much as any old TW. Or if you like the BibblyWiki format but there are things you don't need, feel free to gut the templates or the topmenu of items that you aren't going to use. If later you decide you want them, just go to the online version, grab the url, then go back to your file and hit import tiddlers in the sidebar menu and paste my url and import only those tiddlers you want.
thanks for adding the field - I'll try it asap. This morning I took the time to play a little bit with the original TiddlyWiki to see how to use it (in general).
> Oh and graphics aren't embedded in TW. TW only allows for image links > to file locations on or offline. Get the filepath or URL and you can > add an image this way:
> [img[url or filepath of image file.jpg]]
> As for formulas, I'm not sure. Feel free to check in the TiddlyWiki > Google Group.
> thanks for adding the field - I'll try it asap. This morning I took > the time to play a little bit with the original TiddlyWiki to see how > to use it (in general).
> For Math in a TiddlyWiki I found somebody saying that he did it with > jsmath, > I found this TiddlyWiki here as an example, have to see if it works on > my mac also.http://math.chapman.edu/~jipsen/tiddly/tiddlymath.html
> Martin
> On 4 Mrz., 08:32, "Dave Gifford" <g...@giffmex.org> wrote:
> > Oh and graphics aren't embedded in TW. TW only allows for image links > > to file locations on or offline. Get the filepath or URL and you can > > add an image this way:
> > [img[url or filepath of image file.jpg]]
> > As for formulas, I'm not sure. Feel free to check in the TiddlyWiki > > Google Group.
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