Ok - After seeing the tandems out in force at today's 200k, I just have to have one!

I've been looking at Co-motions, particularly a new prototype carbon/ti bike that is supposed to come in just under 20lbs built-up.  Have you tandem riders been satisfied with Co-motion bikes?  How about carbon/ti frames? (It's hard for me to deny that I am a weight weenie!)

The new bike is supposed to be available in the Spring.  Apparently Co-motion has asked Val & Robin to test the prototype over the winter sometime.  Be sure to give us the early report!

Clay

We've had 3 Co-Motions. All performed flawlessly. I would highly recommend
Co-Motion's to anyone looking for a high-quality performance tandem. Our
Calfee (carbon/boron) is head & shoulders better than any tandem we've ever
been on (in our opinion)...of course, it also cost about as much as all 3
Co-Mo's combined! It's considerably lighter than any of our others, AND
stiffer AND smoother. Everything we wanted in a frame. We have zero
experience with ti tandem frames, although I talked with numerous tandem
teams on Litespeed's & Lynskey's, as we considered ti before we bought our
Calfee. All the Litespeed owners I talked with were very pleased with their
bikes, but almost unanimously said they would do Calfee's if they had the
chance to do over. The few Lynskey owners I talked with (there aren't too
many Lynskey tandems out there) were all very pleased with theirs & none
indicated that they wanted anything different. Ti/Carbon is definitely
interesting to say the least.

I would like to see the component list Co-Mo are using to achieve sub 20
lbs. It would be interesting to know how much the bare frame weighs. Our
Calfee weighs 26 ride ready including pedals, heavier wheels, heavy saddles,
145mm dropout & 28c clincher tires. Our bare frame weighs 5 lbs & change. We
did order ours extra stiff. Some of the tubes are larger than stock to
achieve this added stiffness (an extra pound or so & a few hundred $$). I've
seen claims of Calfee's weighing 23 lbs built & Paketa's at 22. Both of
these had wheels that would fold up like a pretzel under us & saddles that
wouldn't make my a$$ too happy. This may all be fine for others (lightweight
soft pedaling teams), but not realistic for us. It's definitely exciting to
see the numbers on the scales keep dropping with every new frame that comes
out! The real comparison is frame weight vs frame weight. I am also
inflicted with "weight-weenieitis", but only if performance, comfort &
durability aren't sacrificed.

Charlie

"Life is Short...Ride Long!"