Inquiry about a new FCP systems
haprojector
I've been reading the posts for a long time now and always appreciate
learning something new from you guys.
I'm about to buy a new system and I wanted to ask your opinions before
I go and spend the money. I tried buying a system before but put it
off because it seemed like a complicated endeavor.
My name is Aylon Ben-Ami. I produce, direct, shoot, and edit video and
I've been carrying along a PowerBook G4 for too many years. I'm ready
to buy a G5, but I can't estimate my needs. I figured that I'd like to
buy the important things now, and maybe add things like memory and
harddrive space later?
But how much RAM should I get today? They have many video cards, how
much ram does visuals card need? What about a Raid system? One part
seems to beg for another, and pretty quickly I can run a really high
price. I think I'm looking to spend about $6,000, possibly $7,000.
What would be essential for me to edit HD and HDV footage at workable
speeds?
Thanks for the help,
Aylon
954.756.0352
www.aylonbenami.com
René Borroto
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Stan Blair
We should put your post in the “post hall of fame”. It is a beautiful and concise but thorough overview of what we all need to know if we are about to upgrade. I believe the sweet little Sonnet Fusion F2 eSATA drive is a raid; two 320 gig drives connected together as a 640 gig raid. Can you expound a bit on what difference it would make for us to use a raid setup for our external media drives? For instance, I believe that the Sonnet Fusion F2 is two 5400 rpm drives together as a raid (not sure I’m wording that correctly but I bet you know what I mean). What will be the noticeable difference as I work in that arrangement and using a single 7200 rpm drive via FirewWire?
Stan Blair
Co-director SoFlaFCPUG
954-614-2996
René Borroto
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On May 3, 2008, at 3:57 PM, haprojector wrote:
Hi guys,
I've been reading the posts for a long time now and always appreciate
learning something new from you guys.
I'm about to buy a new system and I wanted to ask your opinions before
I go and spend the money. I tried buying a system before but put it
off because it seemed like a complicated endeavor.
My name is Aylon Ben-Ami. I produce, direct, shoot, and edit video and
I've been carrying along a PowerBook G4 for too many years. I'm ready
to buy a G5, but I can't estimate my needs. I figured that I'd like to
buy the important things now, and maybe add things like memory and
harddrive space later?
But how much RAM should I get today? They have many video cards, how
much ram does visuals card need? What about a Raid system? One part
seems to beg for another, and pretty quickly I can run a really high
price. I think I'm looking to spend about $6,000, possibly $7,000.
What would be essential for me to edit HD and HDV footage at workable
speeds?
Thanks for the help,
Aylon
954.756.0352
www.aylonbenami.com
Stan Blair
You knocked it out of the park again René!
I had not grasped the RAID 1 aspect, which seems to have been the first intention for it, for two drives to work together, one making an instant backup of the other. I had a shallow grasp of RAID 0 which I thought of as two guys throwing snowballs at you instead of just one. Now with learning about RAID 1, I’m thinking of it as one guy throwing snowballs at you while another guy is backing him up by making more snowballs for him to throw! (Sorry SoFla, I lived in NYC 22 years to learn about snowballs.)
So, when I move to a MacBook Pro and use a Sonnet Fusion F2, (which is what Orlando Luna is doing right now) will I get speed from it being eSATA and safety from it being RAID 1? Do you have the choice with the Fusion F2 of RAID 0 or RAID 1? In RAID 1, does it whistle or buzz or flash if one of the drives croaks? And when that happens, is it simple to swap out a new disk? Orlando, jump in if you can.
Thanks in advance for more great info.
STAN BLAIR
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On May 3, 2008, at 3:57 PM, haprojector wrote:
Hi guys,
I've been reading the posts for a long time now and always appreciate
learning something new from you guys.
I'm about to buy a new system and I wanted to ask your opinions before
I go and spend the money. I tried buying a system before but put it
off because it seemed like a complicated endeavor.
My name is Aylon Ben-Ami. I produce, direct, shoot, and edit video and
I've been carrying along a PowerBook G4 for too many years. I'm ready
to buy a G5, but I can't estimate my needs. I figured that I'd like to
buy the important things now, and maybe add things like memory and
harddrive space later?
But how much RAM should I get today? They have many video cards, how
much ram does visuals card need? What about a Raid system? One part
seems to beg for another, and pretty quickly I can run a really high
price. I think I'm looking to spend about $6,000, possibly $7,000.
What would be essential for me to edit HD and HDV footage at workable
speeds?
Thanks for the help,
Aylon
954.756.0352
Larry Vaughn
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www.lanceandersen.blogspot.com
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Subject: [SoFlaFCPUG] RAID 0 vs RAID 1 for the shallow pocketbook
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 22:20:21 -0400
To: SoFla...@googlegroups.com
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René Borroto
You knocked it out of the park again René!
I had not grasped the RAID 1 aspect, which seems to have been the first intention for it, for two drives to work together, one making an instant backup of the other. I had a shallow grasp of RAID 0 which I thought of as two guys throwing snowballs at you instead of just one. Now with learning about RAID 1, I’m thinking of it as one guy throwing snowballs at you while another guy is backing him up by making more snowballs for him to throw! (Sorry SoFla, I lived in NYC 22 years to learn about snowballs.)
So, when I move to a MacBook Pro and use a Sonnet Fusion F2, (which is what Orlando Luna is doing right now) will I get speed from it being eSATA and safety from it being RAID 1? Do you have the choice with the Fusion F2 of RAID 0 or RAID 1? In RAID 1, does it whistle or buzz or flash if one of the drives croaks? And when that happens, is it simple to swap out a new disk? Orlando, jump in if you can.
Thanks in advance for more great info.
STAN BLAIR
On 5/3/08 10:20 PM, "René Borroto" <re...@multivisionvideo.com> wrote:
Thanks for your kind comments, Stan.
When considering storage, I weigh in several factors, and it usually turns into a balance of performance, data safety, and price. The Sonnet Technologies F2 drive uses, as you wrote, two 320 GB drives. The unit can be formatted Raid 0 (striped RAID) or Raid 1 (redundant/mirrored RAID). RAID 0 has the two drives working in tandem, with half the data handled by each drive. A "two-horse carriage," so to speak. Two is faster and stronger, but you need both to run, or neither of them does.
Those of us with limited pockets can't have everything, so when considering performance in this type of array, RAID 0 is the way to go. In doing so, we sacrifice data safety. One drive dies, everything is lost.
The other formatting choice for the Sonnet F2 is RAID 1. The unit is formatted so that each drive has the exact same data as the other, or redundant storage. RAID 1 configurations are slower, but if one drive dies, you still have all your data on the other drive and readily accessible. You can get to your files and copy them to another storage system. Then you have options as to repair/replace the bad F2 drive, rather than being SOL. More importantly, you can continue to work on finishing your project. I have actually finished a project shortly after one LaCie FW800 drive died as part of a pair. I just continued the edit session until I was done, knowing that there was no time to move or copy anything: finish or bust. I "drove" for several more miles than recommended on that spare tire. I was lucky though.
These RAID options, by the way, are available to you should you decide to go firewire, by simply using Apple's Disk Utility (Apple calls it "mirrored RAID"). I learned early on that when doing so, you should select 256k for the RAID block size setting under the OPTIONS button. It helps the RAID 1 performance. At our facility we have many LaCie FW800 drives as redundant (RAID 1) drive pairs. It slows them down, but the bulk of our work is SD, so no sweat and tears for speed demons needed. For the most part we prefer data safety. I have noticed, however, that drive life expectancy hovers around 18 months in RAID 1 with LaCie. One member of the drive pair just dies right around that time frame, for some reason. When we consider what they give us and the income we derive from their use, however, it's been worth it. When working in HD (720p) we have been using LaCie FW800 independent drives with no problems, but this will change. Our next system configuration will be eSATA arrays with hot swappable drives. The data throughput is simply better and faster, and will allow us to post 1080i as well as future 1080p capability for mastering on Bluray.
In summary, if you're working in SD, from DV, Prores 422HQ and on up to uncompressed, FW800 reduntant drives (RAID 1) work great. This has been my experience with a G5 tower running two 2.5GHz processors. When working in HD 720p Prores422 HD with our Mac Pro Intel Dual Core 3.0 GHz and an IOHD, a single FW800 drive, or a FW800 RAID 0 drive pair, will work without problems but without a safety net. Again, that will change to eSATA in the near future so we can have better performance and data safety. When using a single drive or striped drive pairs, you're "driving" without a spare tire.
There are, of course, other RAID configurations that give you both, performance AND data safety. Those systems cost more, and require more advanced storage hardware and software. If you need more information on RAID "levels," here's a good entry in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
René Borroto
Senior Editor
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The Sonnet F2 can be formatted RAID 0 or RAID 1. I don't know how you go about replacing an internal drive, but if it's like LaCie you have to send it to its maker for repair.As far as speed is concerned, here's a quote from Sonnet's web site:"Connected to a Sonnet Tempo SATA ExpressCard/34 installed in a MacBook® Pro, and with its drives configured as a RAID 0 striped volume, the compact Fusion F2 is capable of 126 MB/sec sustained read and write data transfers, fast enough to handle multiple streams of ProRes 422 (HQ)! Compared to the slower 66 MB/sec performance from a pair of drives connected via FireWire 800, the advantage is clear—Fusion F2 provides you the capability to capture and play more streams of compressed video for field editing. With its drives configured as a RAID 1 mirrored volume, Fusion F2 still can capture Apple ProRes 422 (HQ) HD fed from an AJA Io HD."
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On May 7, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Gary Sales wrote:
Hi René:
Gary Sales here... out of town a lot so I don't get to make the meetings lately, but I monitor the list all the time.
I liked the sound of this portable eSata system you've described.
Checked out the Fusion2, but it's $895 for 640 gigs + the Card for about a buck. ($995 total for 640 gigs)
Would the same concept work using OWC's "On The Go" Drives (which are approved by Sonnet according to their paperwork)
Here's my question: Using 2 OWC 320's ($190 each) with the Tempo SATA 34 ($100) would I be able to RAID them ( 0 or 1) and get the same result. This system is half the price at about $500. (and the OWC's are also bus powered)
I understand that the two drives would not be in their own enclosure like the Fusion 2 but does the computer care once it sees2 mounted drives... won't the raid software do it's job on any two chosen drives?
And my other question- not thinking super portable here- would I get the speed increase using the Sata 34 using any eSata Raid drives? I can pick up a terrabyte of raid storage w/ eSata ports for about $360.
Thanks in advance for your help and for all the great, clear posts.
Gary
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On May 4, 2008, at 9:24 AM, René Borroto wrote:
The Sonnet F2 can be formatted RAID 0 or RAID 1. I don't know how you go about replacing an internal drive, but if it's like LaCie you have to send it to its maker for repair.
As far as speed is concerned, here's a quote from Sonnet's web site:
"Connected to a Sonnet Tempo SATA ExpressCard/34 installed in a MacBook® Pro, and with its drives configured as a RAID 0 striped volume, the compact Fusion F2 is capable of 126 MB/sec sustained read and write data transfers, fast enough to handle multiple streams of ProRes 422 (HQ)! Compared to the slower 66 MB/sec performance from a pair of drives connected via FireWire 800, the advantage is clear—Fusion F2 provides you the capability to capture and play more streams of compressed video for field editing. With its drives configured as a RAID 1 mirrored volume, Fusion F2 still can capture Apple ProRes 422 (HQ) HD fed from an AJA Io HD."
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On May 3, 2008, at 11:22 PM, Stan Blair wrote:
You knocked it out of the park again René!
I had not grasped the RAID 1 aspect, which seems to have been the first intention for it, for two drives to work together, one making an instant backup of the other. I had a shallow grasp of RAID 0 which I thought of as two guys throwing snowballs at you instead of just one. Now with learning about RAID 1, I’m thinking of it as one guy throwing snowballs at you while another guy is backing him up by making more snowballs for him to throw! (Sorry SoFla, I lived in NYC 22 years to learn about snowballs.)
So, when I move to a MacBook Pro and use a Sonnet Fusion F2, (which is what Orlando Luna is doing right now) will I get speed from it being eSATA and safety from it being RAID 1? Do you have the choice with the Fusion F2 of RAID 0 or RAID 1? In RAID 1, does it whistle or buzz or flash if one of the drives croaks? And when that happens, is it simple to swap out a new disk? Orlando, jump in if you can.
Thanks in advance for more great info.
STAN BLAIR
On 5/3/08 10:20 PM, "René Borroto" <re...@multivisionvideo.com <mailto:re...@multivisionvideo.com> > wrote:
Thanks for your kind comments, Stan.
When considering storage, I weigh in several factors, and it usually turns into a balance of performance, data safety, and price. The Sonnet Technologies F2 drive uses, as you wrote, two 320 GB drives. The unit can be formatted Raid 0 (striped RAID) or Raid 1 (redundant/mirrored RAID). RAID 0 has the two drives working in tandem, with half the data handled by each drive. A "two-horse carriage," so to speak. Two is faster and stronger, but you need both to run, or neither of them does.
Those of us with limited pockets can't have everything, so when considering performance in this type of array, RAID 0 is the way to go. In doing so, we sacrifice data safety. One drive dies, everything is lost.
The other formatting choice for the Sonnet F2 is RAID 1. The unit is formatted so that each drive has the exact same data as the other, or redundant storage. RAID 1 configurations are slower, but if one drive dies, you still have all your data on the other drive and readily accessible. You can get to your files and copy them to another storage system. Then you have options as to repair/replace the bad F2 drive, rather than being SOL. More importantly, you can continue to work on finishing your project. I have actually finished a project shortly after one LaCie FW800 drive died as part of a pair. I just continued the edit session until I was done, knowing that there was no time to move or copy anything: finish or bust. I "drove" for several more miles than recommended on that spare tire. I was lucky though.
These RAID options, by the way, are available to you should you decide to go firewire, by simply using Apple's Disk Utility (Apple calls it "mirrored RAID"). I learned early on that when doing so, you should select 256k for the RAID block size setting under the OPTIONS button. It helps the RAID 1 performance. At our facility we have many LaCie FW800 drives as redundant (RAID 1) drive pairs. It slows them down, but the bulk of our work is SD, so no sweat and tears for speed demons needed. For the most part we prefer data safety. I have noticed, however, that drive life expectancy hovers around 18 months in RAID 1 with LaCie. One member of the drive pair just dies right around that time frame, for some reason. When we consider what they give us and the income we derive from their use, however, it's been worth it. When working in HD (720p) we have been using LaCie FW800 independent drives with no problems, but this will change. Our next system configuration will be eSATA arrays with hot swappable drives. The data throughput is simply better and faster, and will allow us to post 1080i as well as future 1080p capability for mastering on Bluray.
In summary, if you're working in SD, from DV, Prores 422HQ and on up to uncompressed, FW800 reduntant drives (RAID 1) work great. This has been my experience with a G5 tower running two 2.5GHz processors. When working in HD 720p Prores422 HD with our Mac Pro Intel Dual Core 3.0 GHz and an IOHD, a single FW800 drive, or a FW800 RAID 0 drive pair, will work without problems but without a safety net. Again, that will change to eSATA in the near future so we can have better performance and data safety. When using a single drive or striped drive pairs, you're "driving" without a spare tire.
There are, of course, other RAID configurations that give you both, performance AND data safety. Those systems cost more, and require more advanced storage hardware and software. If you need more information on RAID "levels," here's a good entry in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID>
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On May 3, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Stan Blair wrote:
René,
We should put your post in the “post hall of fame”. It is a beautiful and concise but thorough overview of what we all need to know if we are about to upgrade. I believe the sweet little Sonnet Fusion F2 eSATA drive is a raid; two 320 gig drives connected together as a 640 gig raid. Can you expound a bit on what difference it would make for us to use a raid setup for our external media drives? For instance, I believe that the Sonnet Fusion F2 is two 5400 rpm drives together as a raid (not sure I’m wording that correctly but I bet you know what I mean). What will be the noticeable difference as I work in that arrangement and using a single 7200 rpm drive via FirewWire?
Stan Blair
Co-director SoFlaFCPUG
954-614-2996
On 5/3/08 5:07 PM, "René Borroto" <re...@multivisionvideo.com <mailto:re...@multivisionvideo.com> > wrote:
Aylon:
If you were using a G4 powerbook, you're several generations behind the latest, and a G5 is not the step-up you need. The powerbook G4 was a laptop, so are you looking at laptops or desktops? The fastest desktop is an 8-core Intel Mac Pro tower. The newest laptops are Macbook Pros with Intel Dual Core processors, with a few options in storage and CPU that vary its price.
I like eSATA external storage. It's cheap, fast, and great for HD work. I also love the AJA IoHD. Sonnet Technologies makes a dual eSATA Express/34 card for Macbook Pros, and an amazing little eSATA portable drive to go with it. The drive is particularly handy because it gets its power from the Macbook's firewire port. This little point is extremely important if you want to use the IOHD, because the IOHD takes over the firewire bus with heavy data. The drive does not interfere with it at all, because its connection to firewire is strictly for power purposes, not data.
Regardless of the computer you get, buy the most RAM you can afford for it, and the max it will accept if you have the money. I do not recommend that you edit in the HDV format. You should try to capture the footage and convert it to Prores422. The IOHD does that in real time, and does it very well. Prores422 an easier format to work with, particularly because of the drain on the CPU with HDV.
With a desktop you can get a firewire 800 card for external firewire drives, if that's the flavor or storage you like or already own. This FW card would be necessary only if you plan on getting an IOHD, for the reasons mentioned above.
A great portable setup:
15" or 17" Macbook Pro
AJA IOHD
Sonnet Tempo Sata Expresscard/34
Sonnet Fusion F2 eSATA drive
and of course, your HDV camcorder.
I hope this helps somewhat.
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On May 3, 2008, at 3:57 PM, haprojector wrote:
Hi guys,
I've been reading the posts for a long time now and always appreciate
learning something new from you guys.
I'm about to buy a new system and I wanted to ask your opinions before
I go and spend the money. I tried buying a system before but put it
off because it seemed like a complicated endeavor.
My name is Aylon Ben-Ami. I produce, direct, shoot, and edit video and
I've been carrying along a PowerBook G4 for too many years. I'm ready
to buy a G5, but I can't estimate my needs. I figured that I'd like to
buy the important things now, and maybe add things like memory and
harddrive space later?
But how much RAM should I get today? They have many video cards, how
much ram does visuals card need? What about a Raid system? One part
seems to beg for another, and pretty quickly I can run a really high
price. I think I'm looking to spend about $6,000, possibly $7,000.
What would be essential for me to edit HD and HDV footage at workable
speeds?
Thanks for the help,
Aylon
954.756.0352
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On May 3, 2008, at 3:57 PM, haprojector wrote:
Hi guys,
I've been reading the posts for a long time now and always appreciate
learning something new from you guys.
I'm about to buy a new system and I wanted to ask your opinions before
I go and spend the money. I tried buying a system before but put it
off because it seemed like a complicated endeavor.
My name is Aylon Ben-Ami. I produce, direct, shoot, and edit video and
I've been carrying along a PowerBook G4 for too many years. I'm ready
to buy a G5, but I can't estimate my needs. I figured that I'd like to
buy the important things now, and maybe add things like memory and
harddrive space later?
But how much RAM should I get today? They have many video cards, how
much ram does visuals card need? What about a Raid system? One part
seems to beg for another, and pretty quickly I can run a really high
price. I think I'm looking to spend about $6,000, possibly $7,000.
What would be essential for me to edit HD and HDV footage at workable
speeds?
Thanks for the help,
Aylon
954.756.0352
Dawson Peden
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Gary:
I'm not familiar with the drive you're describing. We use the quad interface 1 TB drive, pre-raided, no RAID options unless you connect them in pairs. How swappable, however, sounds like a great thing to have.
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Brooks Reid
thought letting go of one of my Hammonds was a sign that I was
finally getting over my HAS. Instead I ended up purchasing 2 more.
So now I have another A-100 (63) and an A-102 (65) with a beautiful
251 Leslie in Cherry to match. Before we start on the 102 jokes I
have to tell you guys that this 102 is far and away the best Hammond
I have ever played. I realize of course that tone is totally
subjective but this organ has something very special about it. I've
heard some Hammond players describe an elusive "whistle" tone that
they were seeking from their Hammonds but never really understood
what they were talking about. (Kind of like the "warmth" thing). Well
this 102 has got the "whistle". It's almost like a little air in the
sound that whispers at the top end and really makes the tone sparkle.
It also has key click to die for. I have had red cap Hammonds in the
past and never understood the desire for red cap organs. The red cap
Hammonds I played previously had a harshness and edgy quality that
did not appeal to me. This particular A-102 is a horse of a different
color. It's a red cap with a really special tone that just knocks me
out. I won't bore you with any more explicatives but it will suffice
to say it's what I've been looking for but never knew it. One of the
best things I have learned from owning and playing a lot of Hammonds
is that they are all different and all have slightly different
personalities. I enjoy them all but sometimes you come across one
that really inspires you to play. I found one like that and I'm
really happy. BTW the style is called Queen Ann, not French
Provincial. I got myself in trouble before with the French and I
learned my lesson!
OK now you can start, "That A-102 is so ugly...(fill in the rest)
Seeya
Brooks
Alan R. Levy BSP
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Stan Blair
About 10 years ago when my brother and I came home to Texas with our own families for Christmas we found in our “play-room” (originally designed by my dad to be a recording studio for us when we grew up - which it was, until my brother decided that Nashville needed one more studio in ‘87 and moved there) we found a well-worn Hammond Porta-B (sits on metal tubing instead of wooden legs) and a full size amazing Leslie. We went nuts over it! He had traded a terrible old spinet piano to the doctor across the street for it so his little girls could take piano lessons. I haven’t been able to look that doctor in the eye since! My dad upgraded his situation to heaven four years ago (Mom got Century Village!) and the Porta-B moved with my brother to Fellowship Bible Church in Little Rock where it got completely refurbished and is now the beloved object of much non-Christian infighting, jealousy, and machinations to see who the top-dog keyboardist is that gets to play it! Most importantly for those years of Christmas and summer vacations when all the grandkids were exposed to the Hammond, we made sure that the next generation was familiar with that great sound and that they were all experts in at least two songs – Louie Louie and Wipeout! (even though, now that I think about it, both of those songs may have originally used the Farfisa)
A couple of fun Hammond legends for you to weigh-in on -
- In-house at Hammond, though never published, “B-3” meant “Bars” and “C-3” meant “Churches”
- The folks at Hammond never really liked the idea of the Leslie! Anybody know about this for sure?
I have fun imagining the invention of the Leslie speaker and suspecting that alcohol was involved! (Dude, let’s spin the speaker around while we’re playing and see what it sounds like!)
And now as co-director...
How ‘bout we try to get someone from Sonnet to come and show off some of their Fusion2 drives for us and maybe bless us with some raffle prizes! Marian and I make an educated guess that the great “Raid” info and teaching that has been going on lately is the reason that our Website hits have increased (no kidding) 10-fold in the last few days. I’m thinking that info just might persuade the Sonnet folks to become sponsors, right?
“Oh, baby, me gotta go.”
Stan
On 5/9/08 1:06 AM, "Gary Sales" <gary...@aol.com> wrote:
Ahh Brooks, you're giving me flashbacks.
I owned an A-100 in my youth (like in my teens).
Schlepping it to gigs was a bitch. My parents were very kind.
And they were very happy when I started to get some portable gear.
Had a B-3 and a great Leslie cab for a while too. Used to get that clicky yet hollow Jimmy Smith tone with it. Ahhh those flashbacks. My Yamaha Motif 6 is way cool but those ol' Hammonds are special.
Great instruments.
I know what you mean by the differences in tone. You've got to play them a lot to know 'em .
What you describe sounds like a result of "formant" differences between the instruments but it also could just be magic.
When I get back into town again I'm gonna track you down so I can get a few minutes on this baby.
Take Care,
Gary
On May 9, 2008, at 12:43 AM, Alan R. Levy BSP wrote:
Brooks,
Don't be such a tease. Upload a picture and some samples so that we can all drool. I didn't know you were a Hammond guy. It's been one of my dreams to own one.
Alan R. Levy
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Rene:
It's the same one Dawson is using in his system. He emailed me that he seems to be happy with it so far.
I think it's a new addition to their line. Below is a link to it's page on the Lacie site if you want to check it out.
The price seems right for this kind of technology and it's on the street for even less.
It's not that portable but hot-swapping drives and choosing RAID settings from the box seems like a big plus.
Unfortunately, it doesn't have FW800 but at this price I'll get the Sonnet 34 and be will probably just use the eSATA port anyway.
If you get a chance to look it over, I'd be curious to get your take on it.
http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=10963 <http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=10963>
Thanks,
Gary
On May 8, 2008, at 3:10 PM, René Borroto wrote:
Gary:
I'm not familiar with the drive you're describing. We use the quad interface 1 TB drive, pre-raided, no RAID options unless you connect them in pairs. How swappable, however, sounds like a great thing to have.
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On May 8, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Gary Sales wrote:
Rene:
Is the 1tb quad you mentioned a RAID or a single drive?
It must be a different drive than 1 tb La Cie Big Raid I mentioned because I looked closer at this new model and noticed it wasn't a quad interface and only came with eSATA & USB 2.0.
But it seems to have, what appear to be some great conveniences in the hardware.... hot swapable drives, a hardware switch to change the raid settings as you need to. Any thoughts?
I think this is the model that Dawson has in his system.
Gary
On May 8, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Rene Borroto wrote:
Gary:
The LaCie 1 tb quad interface is great. We use it, even for 720p prores hd.
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On May 7, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Gary Sales wrote:
Hi René:
Gary Sales here... out of town a lot so I don't get to make the meetings lately, but I monitor the list all the time.
I liked the sound of this portable eSata system you've described.
Checked out the Fusion2, but it's $895 for 640 gigs + the Card for about a buck. ($995 total for 640 gigs)
Would the same concept work using OWC's "On The Go" Drives (which are approved by Sonnet according to their paperwork)
Here's my question: Using 2 OWC 320's ($190 each) with the Tempo SATA 34 ($100) would I be able to RAID them ( 0 or 1) and get the same result. This system is half the price at about $500. (and the OWC's are also bus powered)
I understand that the two drives would not be in their own enclosure like the Fusion 2 but does the computer care once it sees2 mounted drives... won't the raid software do it's job on any two chosen drives?
And my other question- not thinking super portable here- would I get the speed increase using the Sata 34 using any eSata Raid drives? I can pick up a terrabyte of raid storage w/ eSata ports for about $360.
Thanks in advance for your help and for all the great, clear posts.
Gary
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On May 4, 2008, at 9:24 AM, René Borroto wrote:
The Sonnet F2 can be formatted RAID 0 or RAID 1. I don't know how you go about replacing an internal drive, but if it's like LaCie you have to send it to its maker for repair.
As far as speed is concerned, here's a quote from Sonnet's web site:
"Connected to a Sonnet Tempo SATA ExpressCard/34 installed in a MacBook® Pro, and with its drives configured as a RAID 0 striped volume, the compact Fusion F2 is capable of 126 MB/sec sustained read and write data transfers, fast enough to handle multiple streams of ProRes 422 (HQ)! Compared to the slower 66 MB/sec performance from a pair of drives connected via FireWire 800, the advantage is clear—Fusion F2 provides you the capability to capture and play more streams of compressed video for field editing. With its drives configured as a RAID 1 mirrored volume, Fusion F2 still can capture Apple ProRes 422 (HQ) HD fed from an AJA Io HD."
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On May 3, 2008, at 11:22 PM, Stan Blair wrote:
You knocked it out of the park again René!
I had not grasped the RAID 1 aspect, which seems to have been the first intention for it, for two drives to work together, one making an instant backup of the other. I had a shallow grasp of RAID 0 which I thought of as two guys throwing snowballs at you instead of just one. Now with learning about RAID 1, I’m thinking of it as one guy throwing snowballs at you while another guy is backing him up by making more snowballs for him to throw! (Sorry SoFla, I lived in NYC 22 years to learn about snowballs.)
So, when I move to a MacBook Pro and use a Sonnet Fusion F2, (which is what Orlando Luna is doing right now) will I get speed from it being eSATA and safety from it being RAID 1? Do you have the choice with the Fusion F2 of RAID 0 or RAID 1? In RAID 1, does it whistle or buzz or flash if one of the drives croaks? And when that happens, is it simple to swap out a new disk? Orlando, jump in if you can.
Thanks in advance for more great info.
STAN BLAIR
On 5/3/08 10:20 PM, "René Borroto" <re...@multivisionvideo.com <mailto:re...@multivisionvideo.com> <mailto:re...@multivisionvideo.com <mailto:re...@multivisionvideo.com> > > wrote:
Thanks for your kind comments, Stan.
When considering storage, I weigh in several factors, and it usually turns into a balance of performance, data safety, and price. The Sonnet Technologies F2 drive uses, as you wrote, two 320 GB drives. The unit can be formatted Raid 0 (striped RAID) or Raid 1 (redundant/mirrored RAID). RAID 0 has the two drives working in tandem, with half the data handled by each drive. A "two-horse carriage," so to speak. Two is faster and stronger, but you need both to run, or neither of them does.
Those of us with limited pockets can't have everything, so when considering performance in this type of array, RAID 0 is the way to go. In doing so, we sacrifice data safety. One drive dies, everything is lost.
The other formatting choice for the Sonnet F2 is RAID 1. The unit is formatted so that each drive has the exact same data as the other, or redundant storage. RAID 1 configurations are slower, but if one drive dies, you still have all your data on the other drive and readily accessible. You can get to your files and copy them to another storage system. Then you have options as to repair/replace the bad F2 drive, rather than being SOL. More importantly, you can continue to work on finishing your project. I have actually finished a project shortly after one LaCie FW800 drive died as part of a pair. I just continued the edit session until I was done, knowing that there was no time to move or copy anything: finish or bust. I "drove" for several more miles than recommended on that spare tire. I was lucky though.
These RAID options, by the way, are available to you should you decide to go firewire, by simply using Apple's Disk Utility (Apple calls it "mirrored RAID"). I learned early on that when doing so, you should select 256k for the RAID block size setting under the OPTIONS button. It helps the RAID 1 performance. At our facility we have many LaCie FW800 drives as redundant (RAID 1) drive pairs. It slows them down, but the bulk of our work is SD, so no sweat and tears for speed demons needed. For the most part we prefer data safety. I have noticed, however, that drive life expectancy hovers around 18 months in RAID 1 with LaCie. One member of the drive pair just dies right around that time frame, for some reason. When we consider what they give us and the income we derive from their use, however, it's been worth it. When working in HD (720p) we have been using LaCie FW800 independent drives with no problems, but this will change. Our next system configuration will be eSATA arrays with hot swappable drives. The data throughput is simply better and faster, and will allow us to post 1080i as well as future 1080p capability for mastering on Bluray.
In summary, if you're working in SD, from DV, Prores 422HQ and on up to uncompressed, FW800 reduntant drives (RAID 1) work great. This has been my experience with a G5 tower running two 2.5GHz processors. When working in HD 720p Prores422 HD with our Mac Pro Intel Dual Core 3.0 GHz and an IOHD, a single FW800 drive, or a FW800 RAID 0 drive pair, will work without problems but without a safety net. Again, that will change to eSATA in the near future so we can have better performance and data safety. When using a single drive or striped drive pairs, you're "driving" without a spare tire.
There are, of course, other RAID configurations that give you both, performance AND data safety. Those systems cost more, and require more advanced storage hardware and software. If you need more information on RAID "levels," here's a good entry in Wikipedia:
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On May 3, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Stan Blair wrote:
René,
We should put your post in the “post hall of fame”. It is a beautiful and concise but thorough overview of what we all need to know if we are about to upgrade. I believe the sweet little Sonnet Fusion F2 eSATA drive is a raid; two 320 gig drives connected together as a 640 gig raid. Can you expound a bit on what difference it would make for us to use a raid setup for our external media drives? For instance, I believe that the Sonnet Fusion F2 is two 5400 rpm drives together as a raid (not sure I’m wording that correctly but I bet you know what I mean). What will be the noticeable difference as I work in that arrangement and using a single 7200 rpm drive via FirewWire?
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On 5/3/08 5:07 PM, "René Borroto" <re...@multivisionvideo.com <mailto:re...@multivisionvideo.com> <mailto:re...@multivisionvideo.com <mailto:re...@multivisionvideo.com> > > wrote:
Aylon:
If you were using a G4 powerbook, you're several generations behind the latest, and a G5 is not the step-up you need. The powerbook G4 was a laptop, so are you looking at laptops or desktops? The fastest desktop is an 8-core Intel Mac Pro tower. The newest laptops are Macbook Pros with Intel Dual Core processors, with a few options in storage and CPU that vary its price.
I like eSATA external storage. It's cheap, fast, and great for HD work. I also love the AJA IoHD. Sonnet Technologies makes a dual eSATA Express/34 card for Macbook Pros, and an amazing little eSATA portable drive to go with it. The drive is particularly handy because it gets its power from the Macbook's firewire port. This little point is extremely important if you want to use the IOHD, because the IOHD takes over the firewire bus with heavy data. The drive does not interfere with it at all, because its connection to firewire is strictly for power purposes, not data.
Regardless of the computer you get, buy the most RAM you can afford for it, and the max it will accept if you have the money. I do not recommend that you edit in the HDV format. You should try to capture the footage and convert it to Prores422. The IOHD does that in real time, and does it very well. Prores422 an easier format to work with, particularly because of the drain on the CPU with HDV.
With a desktop you can get a firewire 800 card for external firewire drives, if that's the flavor or storage you like or already own. This FW card would be necessary only if you plan on getting an IOHD, for the reasons mentioned above.
A great portable setup:
15" or 17" Macbook Pro
AJA IOHD
Sonnet Tempo Sata Expresscard/34
Sonnet Fusion F2 eSATA drive
and of course, your HDV camcorder.
I hope this helps somewhat.
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On May 3, 2008, at 3:57 PM, haprojector wrote:
Hi guys,
I've been reading the posts for a long time now and always appreciate
learning something new from you guys.
I'm about to buy a new system and I wanted to ask your opinions before
I go and spend the money. I tried buying a system before but put it
off because it seemed like a complicated endeavor.
My name is Aylon Ben-Ami. I produce, direct, shoot, and edit video and
I've been carrying along a PowerBook G4 for too many years. I'm ready
to buy a G5, but I can't estimate my needs. I figured that I'd like to
buy the important things now, and maybe add things like memory and
harddrive space later?
But how much RAM should I get today? They have many video cards, how
much ram does visuals card need? What about a Raid system? One part
seems to beg for another, and pretty quickly I can run a really high
price. I think I'm looking to spend about $6,000, possibly $7,000.
What would be essential for me to edit HD and HDV footage at workable
speeds?
Thanks for the help,
Aylon
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Brooks Reid
some of you guys would know what I mean.
I'll post a link to some pictures at some point.
Seeya
Brooks
Gary Sales
Stan Blair
Boy, have I learned a lot this week from our Raid thread! Thanks everyone.
Gary, great new info on the LaCie options! Especially since I am shopping for both solutions – portable and stationary. I’ll definitely keep this post.
René, Orlando, Dawson, please weigh in! Would the LaCie 34/54 eSata Card for laptops be just as good as the more expensive Sonnet?
STAN
PS: Everybody please enjoy the list (I certainly enjoyed the Hammond thread) just be a little bit careful. I’ve recently gotten involved on another list of very experienced pros who are very smart and tech savvy, but they are all old buddies who party together at NAB and many days there may be 50 birthday wishes or some kind of friendly teasing in the posts. I kind of enjoy it, but I think a lot of our SoFla listers would freak out! And I understand that, since they may be in the field getting a bunch of birthday wishes on their blackberry while they are trying to work. Maybe our list can be fun AND careful!
Your fun and careful co-director (Marian is just plain fun!)
STAN
On 5/9/08 11:56 AM, "Gary Sales" <gar...@mac.com> wrote:
Point taken Stan on sticking to the list profile, Stan, but Brook's gushings on Hammond organs hit a warm spot with me too.
Not to rain on the Sonnet parade, but in following up on that thread I've found, as have others, some interesting new drives and other offerings for eSATA cards.
The LaCie 1TB 2big Dual eSATA II 3Gbits & Hi-Speed USB 2.0 RAID seems to be a new unit and it has some very useful features along with the eSATA component.
As Dawson pointed out to me...
1. The two drives in the unit are hot swapable.
2. The unit comes with 6 kinds of RAID appear to be hardware switchable on the box. (whether additional software tweaks are needed I don't know, but it comes with a CD for installing their drivers.)
3. LaCie makes their own 34/54 eSata Card for laptops and it's only $49.99 direct from the LaCie website. (vs. $99 for the Sonnet.)
4. And according to their literature you can use their drives or even drives from others.
Of course, there are always the important inside details that our experts like, Rene and Orlando can point out and speak to, but at this point in my research this seems like a great unit.
Dawson's using it already so he can speak from practical experience.
At this point... the Sonnet card and the Fusion2 are fantastic for a portable, field editing set up, but you pay for the porto privilege. (just under $1K for a 640 gig eSATA Raid)
What I'm looking at with the LaCie plan is 1 TB eSATA RAID for under $450. (the LaCie drive weighs in @ 5.2 lbs)
Gary
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Friends,Boy, have I learned a lot this week from our Raid thread! Thanks everyone.Gary, great new info on the LaCie options! Especially since I am shopping for both solutions – portable and stationary. I’ll definitely keep this post.René, Orlando, Dawson, please weigh in! Would the LaCie 34/54 eSata Card for laptops be just as good as the more expensive Sonnet?STAN
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averages about 80-100 hits a day. That jumped up to over 1000 during
the days when the Sonnet discussion was in full swing. I've never seen
such high numbers! Those hits include list members who have opted the
"No Email" choice and read from the web page, and others who surf on
in.
That's a great idea to contact Sonnet -- and maybe LaCie and/or Data
Robotics (drobo drive) -- for sponsorship and raffle goodies. Will
keep you posted on how that goes.
Great conversation, guys! I'm delighted to have you all in our group!
Marian
PS. Small favor -- please trim your posts, especially when we have a
long thread like this. Makes for a lot less scrolling. Thanks!
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think it is very OK for that kind of quality.
Let me know what do you think.
Thank you...
Cristian V.
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http://store.sansdigital-shop.com/mobilestor.html
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Tim Baker
Your right Rene…I looked and one of the enclosures states “with drive +500” for a usb/sata interface.
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Cristian:
I think those prices are for the enclosures only. I don't believe the prices include any hard drives, at least concerning the linked page you sent (mobilestor). Those folks manufacture the enclosures and interface cards, BYOD (bring your own drives).
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Brooks Reid
codec in FCP?
Thanks
Brooks
Brooks Reid
import settings.
My original footage is Quicktime animation codec video.
Brooks
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My video clips are QT animation codec. The timeline settings are Pro
Res.
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Carlos Bedoya
an with higher power the color degrades faster.
You can get away with any cheapo Epson / BenQ as long as you get a decent
screen and controlled lighting, with a resolution of 800x600. For
Powerpoint you gotta have 4:3 screen proportions. But if light is not
controlled you may have to jump into the Runco/Barco boats with their
insane Lumen count.
But for video and Movies... you better get a 16:9 one. If it's DVD, the
best option is 480 lines but now that BlueRay is around the corner you
may want to get into 720 or 1080 territory. My favorites for this are the
InFocus ones, if light could be controlled and the room is not too big.
For larger venues you have to go Runco or Barco.
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Brooks Reid
projectors and big screen solutions. I'm sure he'll have some
excellent information for you.
Brooks
Tieres Tavares
Keep in mind that the size of the screen x distance of the projector from the screen will define if the projector will need interchangeable lenses or not.
If you need the projector too close to the screen and still need a big screen, than you won't be able to buy a projector out of the shelf.
Panasonic has one LCD projector not so bad. Ambient light will define the brightness of the projector.
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Alan R. Levy BSP
Alan, if you'd like you can contact Bob Berkowitz at Multivision for projector info. He knows more about them than me.
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