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Joe Claborn  
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 More options Nov 16 2005, 12:37 pm
From: Joe Claborn <j...@claborn.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:37:05 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 16 2005 12:37 pm
Subject: Google Content
I installed
http://www.apogee-web-consulting.com/tools/track_google_content_ads.html

And I've been appalled to see the kind of sites our clients walking stick ads
are coming up on. Here is a typical example

http://www.online-medical-equipment.info/walking-aids.htm

There is nothing about walking aids on that page at all - except the ads.  For
those that didn't click on the link - here is an excerpt.

"2 walking aids. What other properties do they manage? It is best if they
handle rental properties that are similar to yours walking aids. It is also
helpful to drive by their other properties to see how they are maintained
walking aids."

I can exclude the site - but so many of the sites are like this - either bogus
pages altogether or long directory listings.  Is there another approach to
only being shown on 'real content' pages?

Thanks,

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John Krystynak  
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 More options Nov 16 2005, 3:40 pm
From: John Krystynak <krysty...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:40:11 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 16 2005 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: [SEM2] Google Content

Easy and best option: Turn off content network.

On 11/16/05, Joe Claborn <j...@claborn.net> wrote:

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Andrew Goodman  
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 More options Nov 16 2005, 5:12 pm
From: "Andrew Goodman" <agood...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:12:00 -0000
Subject: Re: Google Content
On this subject -- oooh, frustrated right now! Looks like Google is
finally rolling out separate bidding capability for content clicks -
it's in the help file here:

https://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=26507

Basically a click here and a click there and you can enter lower bids
by ad group, for campaigns where content is enabled. However, if you
aren't tracking separately and don't have a strategy for tracking
separately, this might be deceptive and lead to worse performance than
if you took the time to set up separate content campaigns (or just bid
zero on it). :)  Lemme guess, Urchin will soon make it easier to get
separate stats from search & content clicks on the Google AdWords
campaigns. ;)

Unfortunately - and I'm squinting really hard - the place where this
function is supposed to be available is not visible to me at this
moment in the campaign I'm looking at.

So I am guessing we are mere hours away from this... ?

Lowering bids doesn't solve the problem of AdSense being a playground
for click arbitrageurs and SEO's though. That's a much wider problem
than any simple strategy can stop, unfortunately. I have always been in
favor of just advertising on quality sites. Maybe, if Google's network
is so watered down, the best answer is to buy direct or to seek other
networks, or just stick to search.


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George Williams  
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 More options Nov 16 2005, 9:34 pm
From: George Williams <bgwilli...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:34:17 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 16 2005 9:34 pm
Subject: Re: [SEM2] Re: Google Content

Hi Andrew,
 I'm testing this on some different sites right now. I had already tried
setting up separate campaigns and tracking for the content network clicks
and of course found that they didn't convert at the level of search clicks.
I'm willing to give this a shot though, as an experiment with low keyword
prices, just to see what happens, and to grab a little branding at the same
time.
 Your comment about advertising on your own hand picked quality sites is a
winner. Sometimes a simple phone call or e-mail to such a site can be
extremely beneficial to not just one site, but both - in related but
non-competing markets.
 I'll let you know if anything good results.
 George

 On 11/16/05, Andrew Goodman <agood...@gmail.com> wrote:


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Janet Attard  
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 More options Nov 17 2005, 3:05 pm
From: "Janet Attard" <att...@businessknowhow.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:05:18 -0500
Local: Thurs, Nov 17 2005 3:05 pm
Subject: RE: [SEM2] Re: Google Content

> Easy and best option: Turn off content network.

Or try the targetted site option. Instead of excluding sites, pick the ones
you want to be on.

Or, as someone else mentioned, deal directly with owners of sites you want
to advertise on.

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George Williams  
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 More options Nov 17 2005, 3:33 pm
From: George Williams <bgwilli...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:33:16 -0600
Local: Thurs, Nov 17 2005 3:33 pm
Subject: Re: [SEM2] Re: Google Content

I tried the new content bid system on a couple of sites and get this,
made a $100 sale this morning on a five cent keyword (the only click so
far!)
Of course its Christmas time, and there will be many more clicks that don't
convert in the future - but the experiment will continue for now.
 I also found that the negative keyword switch worked well to increase
ROI on both search and content.
 George

 On 11/17/05, Janet Attard <att...@businessknowhow.com> wrote:


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