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Turadg Aleahmad  
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 More options Oct 13 2006, 7:15 pm
From: "Turadg Aleahmad" <tur...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:15:00 -0400
Subject: the public face of SAIL
For a while the SAIL page on SourceForge has been a bit of a dead end
for anyone who didn't already know what SAIL was.  Basically, the link
to the demo didn't work.

Since the demo-able stuff changes so much, it makes sense to keep a
list of it all in the wiki, as Scott has done,
  http://www.telscenter.org/confluence/display/PAS/Demo+Activity+Launchers

I'd added a link to that from the Pas root page on the wiki and added
a link to that from the SAIL sourceforge page.  So now you can tell
anyone interested in SAIL to go to sail.sf.net, like we always have,
and they'll actually be able to click through to a demo.

- type sail.sf.net
- redirects to http://sail.sourceforge.net/
- click "Pas" in the phrase, "To see an example authoring and learning
environment built with SAIL, try this port of the WISE, called Pas."
- now at http://www.telscenter.org/confluence/display/PAS/Home
- click "some demos" in the phrase, "If this is your first time here,
you may be most interested in some demos."
- now at http://www.telscenter.org/confluence/display/PAS/Demo+Activity+Launchers
- click any of the launchers to see in action something built with SAIL

I also updated the SAIL Core project information deployment to point
to our new mailing lists,
  http://sail.sourceforge.net/sail-core/mail-lists.html

I'm still trying to redeploy the Pas project site with Maven, but it
looks like my checkout is corrupted somehow.  This came up a month or
two ago so I'll go look for e-mails that might help me sort it out.

-Turadg


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Turadg Aleahmad  
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 More options Oct 13 2006, 9:19 pm
From: "Turadg Aleahmad" <tur...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:19:51 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 13 2006 9:19 pm
Subject: Re: the public face of SAIL
I got the "corrupted" checkout sorted out.

Now the Maven projects in the SAIL and TELS codebases build and deploy
sites again.  I also got the hierarchical site linking working
partially.  If you go to the main SAIL Framework page,
  http://sail.sourceforge.net/
you'll see a Modules list which has "SAIL Core".  For some reason the
URL is messed up though.

Go to the main TELS page,
  http://tels.sourceforge.net/
and you'll see three modules: Sensemaker, Pedraw and Pas Suite.  For
some reason the URLs are wrong for the first too.  But click on Pas
Suite and you'll see another Modules section with the subparts.  The
links work for PLR and WPC, but not for PAR or PAWS.

Keeping our projects structured hierarchically should help new users
understand how all the projects fit together.  I think the reason the
hierarchy isn't being reflected correctly on the site is in part due
to the mix we have of flat and nested folders for our projects.  I
think the Maven standard practice is to make the directory hierarchy
match the project hierarchy.  It makes writing and updating all those
relative paths unnecessary.  And I think if we moved to this it
wouldn't impact Eclipse use since every Java project is a leaf node in
the tree.  It's only POM projects that have children, but we don't
need to edit those in Eclipse.  A simple text editor on the file
system will do and I'd say that it's even better.

Scott, what do you think of moving to nested project folders?  If we
do make the move, it would be a good time to take a forward look at
all the groupId and artifactIds and parent relationships of all the
projects.

-Turadg

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Scott Cytacki  
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 More options Oct 18 2006, 11:49 am
From: Scott Cytacki <sc...@concord.org>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:49:41 -0400
Local: Wed, Oct 18 2006 11:49 am
Subject: Re: nested projects / maven (was: the public face of SAIL)

On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 21:19 -0400, Turadg Aleahmad wrote:
> I got the "corrupted" checkout sorted out.

> Now the Maven projects in the SAIL and TELS codebases build and deploy
> sites again.  I also got the hierarchical site linking working
> partially.  If you go to the main SAIL Framework page,
>   http://sail.sourceforge.net/
> you'll see a Modules list which has "SAIL Core".  For some reason the
> URL is messed up though.

I was struggling with a similar problem at the same time.  I was trying
to setup m2 poms for the concord projects.  And I was getting weird urls
for the scm.  I finally tracked it down to inheritance.  

I agree now.  Originally I pushed for the flat folder approach because I
thought it would be easier for Eclispe users.  But I've found that at
least with subversion you can check out a project and uncheck the "Check
recursively" box.   Also the m2eclipse plugin can handle nested maven
projects, so even if you did check out all of pas-suite it could still
work.  So checking out the entire pas-suite would be really easy, if
they were nested.  This would help developers like Laurel that want to
have everything.

In other maven news, I made up a little xslt that helps manage the
redundant information in pom.xml files.  It can be run over a pom and
update any of the redundant info: parent version number, bootstrap
repository, scm.  I'm using it for the concord m2 poms.  I'll find some
place to put it in the sail and pas svn repositories.

Scott


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