This is perhaps a mundane question, but what do you hand-coders like to use for editing your html and css? I'm in the market for a decent text editor (Windows). I currently use the freeware Crimson Editor. It's not bad, but it crashes on occasion, which gets annoying. The feature I most need is the ability to edit remote files. Crimson does this via built-in ftp. That's about the only requirement I have beyond basic syntax highlighting. Perhaps there are other features (like auto-complete or something) that I'm missing out on by using the relatively bare-bones Crimson...
Anyway, just looking for some suggestions. Does not have to be freeware.
> This is perhaps a mundane question, but what do you hand-coders like to > use for editing your html and css? I'm in the market for a decent text > editor (Windows). I currently use the freeware Crimson Editor. It's not > bad, but it crashes on occasion, which gets annoying. The feature I most > need is the ability to edit remote files. Crimson does this via built-in > ftp. That's about the only requirement I have beyond basic syntax > highlighting. Perhaps there are other features (like auto-complete or > something) that I'm missing out on by using the relatively bare-bones > Crimson...
> Anyway, just looking for some suggestions. Does not have to be freeware.
I've been using Visual Studio for years, and I personally love it.
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From: Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com [mailto:Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Stromberger Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:49 AM To: Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com Subject: [Refresh Austin: 2404] text editors
This is perhaps a mundane question, but what do you hand-coders like to use for editing your html and css? I'm in the market for a decent text editor (Windows). I currently use the freeware Crimson Editor. It's not bad, but it crashes on occasion, which gets annoying. The feature I most need is the ability to edit remote files. Crimson does this via built-in ftp. That's about the only requirement I have beyond basic syntax highlighting. Perhaps there are other features (like auto-complete or something) that I'm missing out on by using the relatively bare-bones Crimson...
Anyway, just looking for some suggestions. Does not have to be freeware.
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I use mostly TextMate but also own BBEdit since it support SFTP which I need daily.
I was also a longtime UltraEdit user before I migrated to OSX. One good note about TextMate is they have ported this to Windows http://www.e-texteditor.com/ It supports the same bundle packages as it's OS X cousin. Bad news is if you purchase the OS X license you will still have to purchase a license for the windows editor.
> Before going to Mac (TextMate) I used UltraEdit for many, many years
> On Feb 18, 2008 11:49 AM, Chris Stromberger <chris.stromber...@gmail.com > > wrote: > This is perhaps a mundane question, but what do you hand-coders like > to use for editing your html and css? I'm in the market for a > decent text editor (Windows). I currently use the freeware Crimson > Editor. It's not bad, but it crashes on occasion, which gets > annoying. The feature I most need is the ability to edit remote > files. Crimson does this via built-in ftp. That's about the only > requirement I have beyond basic syntax highlighting. Perhaps there > are other features (like auto-complete or something) that I'm > missing out on by using the relatively bare-bones Crimson...
> Anyway, just looking for some suggestions. Does not have to be > freeware.
I use Crimson on my Windows machine and Textmate on the Mac. I love crimson because it's tiny and has a good regex engine. It's only ever crashed on me when I attempt search/replace operations on 7k+ line files. I just wish development on it weren't languishing.
My coworker used to use PSPad and it supports editing remote files.
Chris Stromberger wrote: > This is perhaps a mundane question, but what do you hand-coders like to > use for editing your html and css? I'm in the market for a decent text > editor (Windows). I currently use the freeware Crimson Editor. It's > not bad, but it crashes on occasion, which gets annoying. The feature I > most need is the ability to edit remote files. Crimson does this via > built-in ftp. That's about the only requirement I have beyond basic > syntax highlighting. Perhaps there are other features (like > auto-complete or something) that I'm missing out on by using the > relatively bare-bones Crimson...
> Anyway, just looking for some suggestions. Does not have to be freeware.
I've used Crimson before on Windows. When I'm on that platform, I usually use Notepad ++. What I'd like is something on Windows that works as easily as TextWrangler on the Mac.
Pat
On Feb 18, 2008 11:58 AM, Ryan Joy <atxr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I use Crimson on my Windows machine and Textmate on the Mac. I love > crimson because it's tiny and has a good regex engine. It's only ever > crashed on me when I attempt search/replace operations on 7k+ line > files. I just wish development on it weren't languishing.
> My coworker used to use PSPad and it supports editing remote files.
Crimson only crashes for me during remote file saves, but it happens very often. One other thing that Crimson does not do well is handle Python multi-line (triple-quoted) strings. The syntax highlighting goes all wonky.
I just installed PSPad and it looks promising. It does correctly handle the Python triple-quoted strings.
> I use Crimson on my Windows machine and Textmate on the Mac. I love > crimson because it's tiny and has a good regex engine. It's only ever > crashed on me when I attempt search/replace operations on 7k+ line > files. I just wish development on it weren't languishing.
> My coworker used to use PSPad and it supports editing remote files.
> Chris Stromberger wrote: > > This is perhaps a mundane question, but what do you hand-coders like to > > use for editing your html and css? I'm in the market for a decent text > > editor (Windows). I currently use the freeware Crimson Editor. It's > > not bad, but it crashes on occasion, which gets annoying. The feature I > > most need is the ability to edit remote files. Crimson does this via > > built-in ftp. That's about the only requirement I have beyond basic > > syntax highlighting. Perhaps there are other features (like > > auto-complete or something) that I'm missing out on by using the > > relatively bare-bones Crimson...
> > Anyway, just looking for some suggestions. Does not have to be > freeware.
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008, Chris Stromberger wrote: > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:49:10 -0600 > From: Chris Stromberger <chris.stromber...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > To: Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > Subject: [Refresh Austin: 2404] text editors
> This is perhaps a mundane question, but what do you hand-coders like to use > for editing your html and css? I'm in the market for a decent text editor > (Windows). I currently use the freeware Crimson Editor. It's not bad, but > it crashes on occasion, which gets annoying. The feature I most need is the > ability to edit remote files. Crimson does this via built-in ftp. That's > about the only requirement I have beyond basic syntax highlighting. Perhaps > there are other features (like auto-complete or something) that I'm missing > out on by using the relatively bare-bones Crimson...
> Anyway, just looking for some suggestions. Does not have to be freeware.
Not sure if it handles remote editing (I think it can), but when I was using Windows, I loved HTMLKit! I was so disappointed to find it wasn't available for Mac. I has lots of extensions so you can probably figure out how to do anything you want. I would definitely use that if possible. It's free and it has a good support community. It sorta reminds me of the Firefox community. Since I switched to Mac OS X, I've been using TextMate for editing and Transmit for ftp (and CSSEdit) and have been very happy.
Also, I think Amara (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/) offers remote editing. ...I just took a look and it appears as if Amara has recently updated so I think I'll check it out again myself.
Chris Stromberger wrote: > This is perhaps a mundane question, but what do you hand-coders like > to use for editing your html and css? I'm in the market for a decent > text editor (Windows). I currently use the freeware Crimson Editor. > It's not bad, but it crashes on occasion, which gets annoying. The > feature I most need is the ability to edit remote files. Crimson does > this via built-in ftp. That's about the only requirement I have > beyond basic syntax highlighting. Perhaps there are other features > (like auto-complete or something) that I'm missing out on by using the > relatively bare-bones Crimson...
> Anyway, just looking for some suggestions. Does not have to be freeware.
Holly Fortenberry wrote: > Not sure if it handles remote editing (I think it can), but when I was > using Windows, I loved HTMLKit! I was so disappointed to find it wasn't > available for Mac. I has lots of extensions so you can probably figure > out how to do anything you want. I would definitely use that if > possible. It's free and it has a good support community. It sorta > reminds me of the Firefox community. Since I switched to Mac OS X, I've > been using TextMate for editing and Transmit for ftp (and CSSEdit) and > have been very happy.
> Also, I think Amara (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/) offers remote editing. > ...I just took a look and it appears as if Amara has recently updated so > I think I'll check it out again myself.
> Holly
> Chris Stromberger wrote:
>> This is perhaps a mundane question, but what do you hand-coders like >> to use for editing your html and css? I'm in the market for a decent >> text editor (Windows). I currently use the freeware Crimson Editor. >> It's not bad, but it crashes on occasion, which gets annoying. The >> feature I most need is the ability to edit remote files. Crimson does >> this via built-in ftp. That's about the only requirement I have >> beyond basic syntax highlighting. Perhaps there are other features >> (like auto-complete or something) that I'm missing out on by using the >> relatively bare-bones Crimson...
>> Anyway, just looking for some suggestions. Does not have to be freeware.
> Oops...I meant to say below "Amaya" (not "Amara"... Amara is our adoption > agency.)
> Holly Fortenberry wrote:
> Not sure if it handles remote editing (I think it can), but when I was > using Windows, I loved HTMLKit! I was so disappointed to find it wasn't > available for Mac. I has lots of extensions so you can probably figure > out how to do anything you want. I would definitely use that if > possible. It's free and it has a good support community. It sorta > reminds me of the Firefox community. Since I switched to Mac OS X, I've > been using TextMate for editing and Transmit for ftp (and CSSEdit) and > have been very happy.
> Also, I think Amara (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/) offers remote editing. > ...I just took a look and it appears as if Amara has recently updated so > I think I'll check it out again myself.
> Holly
> Chris Stromberger wrote:
> This is perhaps a mundane question, but what do you hand-coders like > to use for editing your html and css? I'm in the market for a decent > text editor (Windows). I currently use the freeware Crimson Editor. > It's not bad, but it crashes on occasion, which gets annoying. The > feature I most need is the ability to edit remote files. Crimson does > this via built-in ftp. That's about the only requirement I have > beyond basic syntax highlighting. Perhaps there are other features > (like auto-complete or something) that I'm missing out on by using the > relatively bare-bones Crimson...
> Anyway, just looking for some suggestions. Does not have to be freeware.
I've been using Homesite 5.5 forever, it seems. It's a very clean environment, has a system of color coding for html, php, etc. I don't think it's been updated in 3-4 years, certainly not since Adobe acquired Macromedia.
On Feb 18, 2008 5:08 PM, Marla Erwin <marla.er...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm a BBEdit user on the Mac but when in Windows I use Notepad++ which, as > the name implies, is just Notepad on steroids. Free.
> On Feb 18, 2008 1:19 PM, Holly Fortenberry <ho...@hollyfortenberry.com> > wrote:
> > Oops...I meant to say below "Amaya" (not "Amara"... Amara is our > > adoption agency.)
> > Holly Fortenberry wrote:
> > Not sure if it handles remote editing (I think it can), but when I was > > using Windows, I loved HTMLKit! I was so disappointed to find it wasn't > > available for Mac. I has lots of extensions so you can probably figure > > out how to do anything you want. I would definitely use that if > > possible. It's free and it has a good support community. It sorta > > reminds me of the Firefox community. Since I switched to Mac OS X, I've > > been using TextMate for editing and Transmit for ftp (and CSSEdit) and > > have been very happy.
> > Also, I think Amara (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/) offers remote editing. > > ...I just took a look and it appears as if Amara has recently updated so > > I think I'll check it out again myself.
> > Holly
> > Chris Stromberger wrote:
> > This is perhaps a mundane question, but what do you hand-coders like > > to use for editing your html and css? I'm in the market for a decent > > text editor (Windows). I currently use the freeware Crimson Editor. > > It's not bad, but it crashes on occasion, which gets annoying. The > > feature I most need is the ability to edit remote files. Crimson does > > this via built-in ftp. That's about the only requirement I have > > beyond basic syntax highlighting. Perhaps there are other features > > (like auto-complete or something) that I'm missing out on by using the > > relatively bare-bones Crimson...
> > Anyway, just looking for some suggestions. Does not have to be freeware.
I have always used HomeSite 5+ on Windows. (When I had a Mac, I used BBEdit, but that was a long time ago.) Simple, nice color coding of tags, and you can add handy little time-saving tool bars with a little JavaScript magic.
----- Original Message ---- From: Chris Stromberger <chris.stromber...@gmail.com> To: Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:49:10 AM Subject: [Refresh Austin: 2404] text editors
This is perhaps a mundane question, but what do you hand-coders like to use for editing your html and css? I'm in the market for a decent text editor (Windows). I currently use the freeware Crimson Editor. It's not bad, but it crashes on occasion, which gets annoying. The feature I most need is the ability to edit remote files. Crimson does this via built-in ftp. That's about the only requirement I have beyond basic syntax highlighting. Perhaps there are other features (like auto-complete or something) that I'm missing out on by using the relatively bare-bones Crimson...
Anyway, just looking for some suggestions. Does not have to be freeware.
Definitely check out e-texteditor - essentially TextMate for Windows. It's best features are how customizable it is, and it's ability to use TextMate bundles. It's available for $30 or so.
Aptana(http://aptana.com/studio) is by far my favorite text-editor/IDE. It's free, based on the open-source Eclipse IDE, and has such features as type-ahead, built-in FTP, and is expandable with a variety of plug-ins.
Patrick
On Feb 18, 2008 11:49 AM, Chris Stromberger <chris.stromber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is perhaps a mundane question, but what do you hand-coders like to use > for editing your html and css? I'm in the market for a decent text editor > (Windows). I currently use the freeware Crimson Editor. It's not bad, but > it crashes on occasion, which gets annoying. The feature I most need is the > ability to edit remote files. Crimson does this via built-in ftp. That's > about the only requirement I have beyond basic syntax highlighting. Perhaps > there are other features (like auto-complete or something) that I'm missing > out on by using the relatively bare-bones Crimson...
> Anyway, just looking for some suggestions. Does not have to be freeware.
> > > This is perhaps a mundane question, but what do you hand-coders like > > > to use for editing your html and css? I'm in the market for a decent > > > text editor (Windows). I currently use the freeware Crimson Editor. > > > It's not bad, but it crashes on occasion, which gets annoying. The > > > feature I most need is the ability to edit remote files. Crimson does > > > this via built-in ftp. That's about the only requirement I have > > > beyond basic syntax highlighting. Perhaps there are other features > > > (like auto-complete or something) that I'm missing out on by using the > > > relatively bare-bones Crimson...
> > > Anyway, just looking for some suggestions. Does not have to be freeware.
For CSS, I have been using TopStyle for years. It is a dedicated CSS
editor and has a number of nice features, including a handy list of
all id's & classes for easy navigation, site reports, syntax flagging,
and a preview with firefox-like inspection. You can set a target css
level and/or browser and it will flag properties in your css that are
not supported at that level. It also handles color fairly nicely- you
can set up a palette of colors, or can dial up/down luminosity on a
hex value.
I was also a long-time Homesite user - still am occasionally. Also ultraedit - a great tool, but it misses the mark if you're just doing html & css. I'd suggest looking at Komodo Edit(1) (free) - it has good syntax highlighting, code folding and a lot of the things that are invaluable for markup editing.
Ok, this is sort of a branch on this thread, Sam's "code folding" mention made me think of it...
Do any of these editors that have been mentioned have a feature for "browsing" through the comments in a file? Does anyone know of any editor that does this?
I have found myself on many occasions trying to get through a large CSS file and wishing I could use the comments to quickly jump to a specific section. If I was dreaming, I would like to see a separate palette/window that showed me all of the comments in the file and let me click on them like bookmarks.
Chris
From: Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com [mailto:Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sam foster Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:15 PM To: Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com Subject: [Refresh Austin: 2428] Re: text editors
I was also a long-time Homesite user - still am occasionally. Also ultraedit - a great tool, but it misses the mark if you're just doing html & css. I'd suggest looking at Komodo Edit(1) (free) - it has good syntax highlighting, code folding and a lot of the things that are invaluable for markup editing.
Textmate (OS X) allows you to do this. I think it may be part of a bundle, but I use it to keep track of ToDos and other information that I add in comments. most IDEs (IntelliJ, Visual Studio, Eclipse) I've seen provide this capability, though I'm not sure how many HTML editors follow the practice.
> Ok, this is sort of a branch on this thread, Sam’s “code folding” > mention made me think of it…
> Do any of these editors that have been mentioned have a feature for > “browsing” through the comments in a file? Does anyone know of any > editor that does this?
> I have found myself on many occasions trying to get through a large > CSS file and wishing I could use the comments to quickly jump to a > specific section. If I was dreaming, I would like to see a separate > palette/window that showed me all of the comments in the file and > let me click on them like bookmarks.
> Chris
> From: Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com [mailto:Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > ] On Behalf Of sam foster > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:15 PM > To: Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > Subject: [Refresh Austin: 2428] Re: text editors
> I was also a long-time Homesite user - still am occasionally. Also > ultraedit - a great tool, but it misses the mark if you're just > doing html & css. > I'd suggest looking at Komodo Edit(1) (free) - it has good syntax > highlighting, code folding and a lot of the things that are > invaluable for markup editing.
CSSEdit is not a text editor so I don't know how interested you are, but I recommend using it for CSS. Among other great features, it has a panel along the left that lists all of the selectors so you can scroll up and down this short list, pick your selector and jump down into the code easily. It's much faster than scrolling through the entire CSS file.
> Ok, this is sort of a branch on this thread, Sam's "code folding" > mention made me think of it...
> Do any of these editors that have been mentioned have a feature for > "browsing" through the comments in a file? Does anyone know of any > editor that does this?
> I have found myself on many occasions trying to get through a large > CSS file and wishing I could use the comments to quickly jump to a > specific section. If I was dreaming, I would like to see a separate > palette/window that showed me all of the comments in the file and let > me click on them like bookmarks.
> Chris
> *From:* Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > [mailto:Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *sam foster > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:15 PM > *To:* Refresh-Austin@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [Refresh Austin: 2428] Re: text editors
> I was also a long-time Homesite user - still am occasionally. Also > ultraedit - a great tool, but it misses the mark if you're just doing > html & css. > I'd suggest looking at Komodo Edit(1) (free) - it has good syntax > highlighting, code folding and a lot of the things that are invaluable > for markup editing.
UltraEdit is good for opening really huge binary files as text files and letting you hack them.
I extracted a bunch of audio samples from Tomb Raider .dat files this way.
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:14:45 -0600From: potatosculp...@gmail.comTo: Refresh-Aus...@googlegroups.comSubject: [Refresh Austin: 2428] Re: text editorsI was also a long-time Homesite user - still am occasionally. Also ultraedit - a great tool, but it misses the mark if you're just doing html & css. I'd suggest looking at Komodo Edit(1) (free) - it has good syntax highlighting, code folding and a lot of the things that are invaluable for markup editing. Sam1. Komodo Edit - http://www.activestate.com/Products/komodo_edit/Not to be condused with their IDE product - which is also very nice but not free.
Chris, on the Windows side Notepad++ lets you add bookmarks to any text file, including CSS, and jump from one to the next. It's not automatic (you have to manually set the bookmark, rather than querying for =comment), but might do for your needs.
Marla
On Feb 19, 2008 2:28 PM, Chris Cage <cwc...@onr.com> wrote:
> Ok, this is sort of a branch on this thread, Sam's "code folding" mention > made me think of it…
> Do any of these editors that have been mentioned have a feature for > "browsing" through the comments in a file? Does anyone know of any editor > that does this?
> I have found myself on many occasions trying to get through a large CSS > file and wishing I could use the comments to quickly jump to a specific > section. If I was dreaming, I would like to see a separate palette/window > that showed me all of the comments in the file and let me click on them like > bookmarks.
I am going to throw my hat in here as well - I have been using PSPad for years and find it a very powerful / stable environment. Its plugin possibilities are very robust, although the community isn't that huge there are still quite a few. Also, it handles remote editing very well which should meet your needs.
It has some nice features that i rely on quite a bit like macros and templates and handles a ton of different language highlighting.
Marla Erwin wrote: > Chris, on the Windows side Notepad++ lets you add bookmarks to any > text file, including CSS, and jump from one to the next. It's not > automatic (you have to manually set the bookmark, rather than querying > for =comment), but might do for your needs.
> Marla
> On Feb 19, 2008 2:28 PM, Chris Cage <cwc...@onr.com > <mailto:cwc...@onr.com>> wrote:
> Ok, this is sort of a branch on this thread, Sam's "code folding" > mention made me think of it…
> Do any of these editors that have been mentioned have a feature > for "browsing" through the comments in a file? Does anyone know of > any editor that does this?
> I have found myself on many occasions trying to get through a > large CSS file and wishing I could use the comments to quickly > jump to a specific section. If I was dreaming, I would like to see > a separate palette/window that showed me all of the comments in > the file and let me click on them like bookmarks.
