How Imran Khan will change Pakistan with Old Faces ????

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Javed Iqbal

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Nov 8, 2011, 6:32:24 AM11/8/11
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Assalam-o-Alaikum to All.....

PTI Chief Imran Khan continuously saying for Change in Pakistan, and
he did very successful Campaign at Minar Pakistan. but Imran Khan
alliance with Jehanir Tareen and his company, every one know These are
Establishment's players. Now very soon Aijaz-ul-Haq and Humayun Akhter
also go forward for alliance with Imran Khan, Mian Azhar already on
Imran Khan's Ship.

May be Establishment completely using to Imran Khan, and that's why
Media supporting him and he is against only Nawaz Sharif, he also
against Asif Ali Zardari but not like he is against Nawaz Sharif.

I Think, Youngster running again behind New Face but not doing
exercise for Change.......

May be in future PTI will be new MQM in Punjab.

LETS SEE WHAT IMRAN KHAN WILL DO FOR CHANGE.



Javed Iqbal
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jamal yousuf

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Nov 9, 2011, 12:51:45 PM11/9/11
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You are very right. now the things are very open. the way hispublic
meeting was made successfull the way section of the media is blowing
him up and the way just with one public meeting many political figures
suden;y jumped into his party is open secret that indicates some
force is behind this circus , the very force that does not like nawz
shareef.
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zubair niazi

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I think it is your thinking. You have to know that The Peoples of
Pakistan are not fool. They know who are best for them. At the time
when The Boat of Asif Ali Zardari and Nawaz Sharif is sinking they
are spreading different kind of rumers like your view. many writers
and tv anchores are doing their job to save zardari and nawaz
partnership. but you must know that the this partnership has been
broken by capten and no one can stop the change. Insha Allah . Nasrum
min Allah wa Fathun Qareeb.

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Br. Javed Iqbal,  ASA
 
Better send this letter to Br Imran Khan for his clarification and stop propaganda work  against him without ascertaining  the facts. These "false, unascertained and imaginative" allegations constitutes a disservice to Pakistan and its future. 
 
If you are a well wisher of Pakistan please get the facts ascertained. This is your prime responsibility  as the citizen of a Muslim  state. Imran Khan will get himself corrected  through your humble move. Allah will save  you from a great sin. Shukrun
 
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It is again old wine in new bottle.
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As I,m not a political worker bt a young journalist. I,ve seen such huge rallies and genral conventions by jamaat e islami in near past and it seems that "revolution" is at door step bt... "Hanooz Dilli door asat". I would also sugesst PTI workers not to jump to any conclusion yet becoz PTI is only 16 years old and I think its a kid in the game of politics. And I,ll not coment on that any force is behind Imran bt I would agree with Javed that change can't be interduce with old faces and specially with the friends of Pervez Musharraf. If revolution first step is Mian Azhar then Imran Khan should be mentally prepare himself for the treatment like Mian Azhar as his masters did in 2002.

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Amjad Ch

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i totally agree with this.the forces behind the imran are same those support mqm in karachi.they first try to launch mqm also in punjab.but failed to acheive desired result.now they are supporting imran.objective is same to divide the electrol power of punjab.just think why altaf hussain and imran r praising each other.answer is the master behind them r same


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عمران خان صاحب کی گردن میں ابھی سے سریا آگیا ہے۔ ڈاکٹر عبدالقدیر خان
صاحب کی تضحیک کی گئی اور انکو پارٹی میں نہ لئے جانے کی ایک ہی وجہ ہو
سکتی ہے(اگر ڈاکٹر صاحب پی ٹی آئی جائین بھی کرنا چاہتے تھے تو) کہ
امریکہ بہادر ناراض ہو جائے گا۔ ویسے بھی مینار پاکستان والے جلسے میں ق
لیگ اور پی پی نے اپنے کارکن بھجوائے تھے اور عمران صاحب جم غفیر دیکھ کر
اآپے سے باہر ہوتے دکھائی دینے لگے۔ ایسا ہی قاضی صاحب کے ساتھ ہوا تھا۔
لیاقت باغ میں قاضی صاحب کا جلسہ پی پی کے کارکنوں سے بھرا ہوتا تھا لیکن
بیلٹ باکس خالی نکلے۔ قاضی اآ رہا ہے والے نعرے جلد ہی فاضی جا رہا ہے
میں بدل گئے اور قاضی صاھب کی الگ پرواز سے دائیں بازو کی 16/17 سیٹیں پی
پی کی گود میں چلی گیہں اور پی پی نے مرکز میں حکومت بنا لی۔ ایسے ہی
عمران خان کو بانس پر چڑہایا جا رہا ہے۔

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malik abdul

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Actually Imran Khan's PTI is a "Recycle Bin of Politics in Pakistan" where politician either b/c of their personnel gains or they unable to get ticket from the PML-N, PML-Q,JI & PPP in broad "national interest" will JOIN.... True change will come WHEN Really NEW faces will get Tickets from PTI & they came into power; even currently the main leaders of PTI either from any of these parties! The establishment doesn’t want any change for that purposes they will do anything which is possible for them in the name of CHANGE. 

 
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i totally agree with this.the forces behind the imran are same those support mqm in karachi.they first try to launch mqm also in punjab.but failed to acheive desired result.now they are supporting imran.objective is same to divide the electrol power of punjab.just think why altaf hussain and imran r praising each other.answer is the master behind them r same
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Having new and  young leadership may prove good for the country. prior to this we had taste of old and so called experienced leadership, who ended up in the loot -mar and making properties abroad. Unnecessary aspersions, jumping into uncalled for conclusions is a sign of a looser. 


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As I,m not a political worker bt a young journalist. I,ve seen such huge rallies and genral conventions by jamaat e islami in near past and it seems that "revolution" is at door step bt... "Hanooz Dilli door asat". I would also sugesst PTI workers not to jump to any conclusion yet becoz PTI is only 16 years old and I think its a kid in the game of politics. And I,ll not coment on that any force is behind Imran bt I would agree with Javed that change can't be interduce with old faces and specially with the friends of Pervez Musharraf. If revolution first step is Mian Azhar then Imran Khan should be mentally prepare himself for the treatment like Mian Azhar as his masters did in 2002.

Regards
Bashir Chaudhary
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sajjad shah

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totally agree with you Imran Khan is just a puppet of Establishment, besides mian azhar, jehangir tareen, humayun akhtar etc, in rwp he made ijaz khan jazi as distt president, and also gave him ticket last by election (he managed to get 3600 votes only) Mr Ijaz Khan Jazi owns more than 20 casinos in rwp, also now in isb we are watchig raja mehrban ilyas as PTI isb representative, the guy who done 175 kanal frauds with CDA and wanted gangster and criminal, so a for as using the youth  as his tool, he is successful but when it comes to rewarding the tickets or finalizing candidates, the establishment will decide all, HE IS JUST A PUPPET
 
 
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Wajid Shamsul Hasan

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Dear Javed,
Greetings!
we will wait and see if he has the organisational skills and can he convert the crowd into  votes. You have identified correctly those pulling the strings for him. His rise and  socalled popularity reminds me of the formation of IJI in 1988 under MNS by Gen Hameed Gul , the then DG ISI, to what he disclosed later "to serve democracy". According to him if he had  not done so Punjab would have been swept away by Bibi's landslide victory ushering what he called--one party rule(dictatorshio)in the country. Thats the way they derail democracy. Hopefully, this time such conspiracies wont succeed. Our people are now too clever to fall for such extra-constitutional conraptions. 
 
All the best
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Dear Friends:

A debate has started in the media circles about the PTI's changing
stance about the induction of political heavy weights of other
political parties. There are divergent views on the subject. One
section believes that the PTI needs electable politicians while the
other section believes that it would become difficult for Imran Khan
to institute changes that he has been demanding for a long time with
these heavy weights in his party.

I am NOT a traditional politician but have had the opportunity of
interacting with the politicians. Being in the media circle, I have
had the opportunity of watching the players on the political turf.
With access to the so-called classified information at times, I got to
know the black-and-white picture of those who matter in the power game
of Pakistan.

Without challenging the viewpoint of other thinkers, I make the
following submissions and will appreciate feedback from the
knowledgeable ladies and gentlemen.

1. It is the traditional modus operandi of the so-called Establishment
in Pakistan that the heavy weights are made to switch parties from the
'satins' to the 'angels.' Imran Khan won't be an exception if he falls
prey to the tried and tested methodology.

2. A people's party or truly popular party doesn't need heavy weights.
In the 1970's general elections, a large number of persons were
elected on the PPP's ticket who have had no political weight. The
people voted for the party, not the candidate. That's also true of
political parties in true democracies around the world.

3. The people who came to the PTI's Rally at Minar-e-Pakistan on 30
Oct 2011 were common people. No political heavy weights played a role
in organizing the Rally or making it a great success.

4. With the induction of heavy weights who have the history of
switching parties may only tarnish the image of Imran Khan and cause
irreparable damage to PTI. That risk cannot be ruled out.

5. The general public hold the Jagirdars, Sarmayadars, Gaddi Nashins,
Generals and Civil Servants largely responsible for the woes of
Pakistan and its people in the past sixty plus years. These segments
are known to have their own agendas and their own methodologies. They
are hardly loyal to any leader or party; they are loyal only to
themselves. That's our history. And we must never forget our history.
These segments do have their own agendas and their own methodologies
in other countries, too, but their vested interests are carefully
examined and managed within the parameters of the national interests.

6. It is often said and believed that no political party can come into
power without the blessings of the vested interests of aforesaid
segments of our society. That could be true at times especially for
parties that spring up quickly or get into power quickly. Although PTI
existed for the past 15 years, it really started its journey from 30
Oct 2011. A party with this background can't possibly get into power
without the support of the so-called Establishment. That's a fact we
cannot possibly deny.

7. With all the might of the so-called Establishment, a true leader
can still forge ahead by knowing where he has to STOP the 'invaders'.
It might be extremely difficult for a new-born leader to judge the
vested interests and draw the Red Lines. So, he has to take every step
with extreme caution lest he falls into the dark alley. Imran Khan, in
my humble opinion, is neither a traditional politician nor a grand
master. So, he needs to tread his path with the help of those who know
the political history and who are really concerned with the interests
of Pakistan. And who can give unbiased, impartial and practical
guidelines.

It is the PTI's choice and compulsion dilemma. How it handles it will
make the difference for its success or failure. But it must remember
that it won't have time and space to make up for any colossal failure.
So, CAUTION is the lead word for its leadership.

Regards.

Dear All:

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This is really very important point, How revolution possible with old faces ?????
establishment make MQM after MRD movement against PPP in Sindh, and same practice in punjab against PML.N, and purpose is same....
I also think till some months ago, Imran Khan is better than other, but his way of politics is clearly showing (establishment is behind him only for beat to nawaz sharif). 
 
Lets see what happen in future, but Establishment's politics will not success in Punjab, because many politicians already in Establishment's Pockets all the time.



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I think Imran Khan will never give tickets to the corrupt politicians. He should introduce new faces in elections. Every citizen has right to join PTI or any other political party like many people from other parties are joing PTI now a days. Imran Khan should avoid promoting old faces and especially the companions of Musharaf, PML-N , PML-Q, MQM and PPPP. As he already announced that PTI will never give ticket to the people having corrupt background. Still there is a question arises in the minds of the people that if PTI will not give ticket to the people joining from the other parites then why these people are joining PTI. Would they sacrifice their constituency if they will not be consider by PTI?Have they joined PTI without any political interest or PTI will repeat the same policy by introduncing same old faces from its platform??Where does the establishment stands?? Would PTI workers struggling for change be satisfied if these old faces will come forward in elections or Imtran Khan will do another mistake???
 
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As I,m not a political worker bt a young journalist. I,ve seen such huge rallies and genral conventions by jamaat e islami in near past and it seems that "revolution" is at door step bt... "Hanooz Dilli door asat". I would also sugesst PTI workers not to jump to any conclusion yet becoz PTI is only 16 years old and I think its a kid in the game of politics. And I,ll not coment on that any force is behind Imran bt I would agree with Javed that change can't be interduce with old faces and specially with the friends of Pervez Musharraf. If revolution first step is Mian Azhar then Imran Khan should be mentally prepare himself for the treatment like Mian Azhar as his masters did in 2002.

Regards
Bashir Chaudhary
CNBC Pakistan, Islamabad

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in the presences of Baradari-ism and darras (grouping) at constituency level in the most of the country and especially in rural areas of Punjab, how is it possible to win election without support of old faces? These darras and baradaries are headed/controlled by these 'old faces' of our politics. Since 1985, I have been observing that the elections, in most of the rural areas, are contested on the basis of these Darras and baradaries ... Thinking to win without such existing structures seems to be a huge dream ... 

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Respected Aftaab sb

When the help of these waderaaas is necessry then one should not chant any slogan of inqilab, change and system replacement. Either there is jamat e islami, PTi, MQM or any other party who claims to bring change it shouldn't go through the foot steps of PPP, PMLN, PMLQ. If they do then it would be called lust of the power not inqilaab. And I would urge Imran Khan to hold election with in the party before genral election. When I say election its mean election not announcment of the new office bearer.

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Bashir Chaudhary
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Sir,
The Generals invaded democracy in Pakistan with slogan of "Change" and Politician did so for votes: But Change is no where insight in Pakistan from decades: Imran Khan have never declared his assets ever nor he have held elections in PTI from last 15 years; Do any one know how hes running PTI and from where its funded? Is PTI being run as he collected funds for his hospital? He may be a good NGO worker but not capable of running a country like Pakistan!!!! No way for Change through Imran Khan!!!! Take it granted he will be worst than Zia-Ul-Haq and will scrap Pakistan Penal Code and impose Saudi like Sharia in Pakistan: It will his "Change" 

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I do agree with Mr Bashir Chaudhary that if the same people have to come from a different platform then what's this talk of change all about.

Our ex foreign minister who now talks of integrity and principals had no issues as long as things were fine within the party for him. His change of portfolio suddenly brought about all this talk.

Mr Mirza again is like an enigma and only God knows what's cooking there.

I guess the issue is also that other honest and capable people does not want to venture into politics as it is too costly to fund. If the election commission is made independent and the amount allowed to be spent for a NA and PA seats is adhered to only then it may be possible.

In my humble opinion since the vote is basically for the party heads then why not have a presidential or a prime minsterial debate and get the issues sorted out through that. I may also suggest that PTI should announce a shadow cabinet or division like finance division, economic affairs, health, education etc to let its people become more visible besides Imran Khan.

General elections may also be held to given more weightage to the party itself, but certainly not selections or nominations. I would love to see someone challenging Imran for the top slot he or she may lose but at least we would know that there are capable people who believe in themselves in PTI.

I wish PTI all the best for jalsa in Karachi and hope that it will depend on people like us rather than other tried and tested political parties.

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Dear Br. Bashir Choudhry,  ASA
 
Your suggestion is quite democratic. This is the first step that Imran Khan must take to establish his and his party's credibility as honest servant of the People of Pakistan. 
 
If  he is  fond of Iqbal, let him show the democratic passions of Iqbal and open his party's door for all who support the ideology of Pakistan and introduce the  elections  in the  party as JI is doing for its members. That is his test  Shukrun
 
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Aijaz Ahmed

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I think having heavyweights or not is not an issue, for me issue are different through which one can judge IK's present onslaught and the future politics.

1   he is the man who despite having a play boy image entered in the politics on the shoulders on Hameed Gul

2    IK does not and could not refute allegations of having the agency links. I disagree with Ch.Nisar on many issues, but in a recent TV interview he maintained that he knew those who are playing as link between IK and establishment, in addition he claimed that he is well aware of the man in agency who promotes Imran Khan.

3   Imran believes in using illegitimate and illegal means for good! This could b useful and fruitful at times, but a true Democrat can never support this idea. How come you will stop someone in futuire to use those same negative means for his personal interests?

4    Imran time and gain claims to bring amajor change, but how, does he has any road map. How would he stop drone attacks? A man who himself failed to declare his assets and their present value would ask others to do so? He claims 439 qacrs of land in Mian Chanun of just 50000 rupees, is it acceptable?A

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Wait and see Imran Khan "Change" he will give tickets to leaders of Banned outfits to bring them in mainstream to impose Saudi style Sharia: Ask Imran khan to announce his assets first and details of funds of PTI?

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I think Imran Khan will never give tickets to the corrupt politicians. He should introduce new faces in elections. Every citizen has right to join PTI or any other political party like many people from other parties are joing PTI now a days. Imran Khan should avoid promoting old faces and especially the companions of Musharaf, PML-N , PML-Q, MQM and PPPP. As he already announced that PTI will never give ticket to the people having corrupt background. Still there is a question arises in the minds of the people that if PTI will not give ticket to the people joining from the other parites then why these people are joining PTI. Would they sacrifice their constituency if they will not be consider by PTI?Have they joined PTI without any political interest or PTI will repeat the same policy by introduncing same old faces from its platform??Where does the establishment stands?? Would PTI workers struggling for change be satisfied if these old faces will come forward in elections or Imtran Khan will do another mistake???
 
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As I,m not a political worker bt a young journalist. I,ve seen such huge rallies and genral conventions by jamaat e islami in near past and it seems that "revolution" is at door step bt... "Hanooz Dilli door asat". I would also sugesst PTI workers not to jump to any conclusion yet becoz PTI is only 16 years old and I think its a kid in the game of politics. And I,ll not coment on that any force is behind Imran bt I would agree with Javed that change can't be interduce with old faces and specially with the friends of Pervez Musharraf. If revolution first step is Mian Azhar then Imran Khan should be mentally prepare himself for the treatment like Mian Azhar as his masters did in 2002.

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Asadsamy

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Does nawaz or zardari have declared there assets to the country (what is the reality) .......all say 5 times prayers but no one wants to face the reality.....everyone is for themselves 

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Now please look... who and who joining PTI, ex-IB chief Masood Sharif Khattak. Who knows better than Kamran Khan, who did a story on Khattak. I am sure he will recall his news of Khattan on Mir Murtaza Bhutto's murder case. Can't say much on the joining of ex-igp Sardar Yaqub, but certainly such people can't help PTI, much. Kaptan must not get too much excited over people joining PTI, as people often join the party in good time and must not forget those who stoodby when Imran was ruled out in politics. mazhar 

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As per my information Mr Khattak last month was in search of mian Nawaz shareef n it was expected to hold a jalsa in karrak of Mian Nawaz shareef. Then 28th or 30th October came and Mr. Khattak changed his mind. Does he get any direction from any one or not?

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Asher Ghazzaal

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First step in Change is change of face so lets begin with it. As for Karachi, People of Karachi choose MQM as their party. I have witnessed how they boycott every election and played cricket on the streets. Yes establishment and its puppets are good court jesters if they can express Musharaf's vision to us then they can sell any thing and I mean everything. They can sell Nawaz Sherif and even Asif Ali Zardari. I am not worried about if Imran Khan is making a new  MQM in Lahore or a 80 year old baba ji making new province in hazara division. I am worried about the deal Imran Khan has struck with Establishment. and more with good uncle SAM what we are going to lose now??? Bloachistan? Nuclear Deterrence? WAPDA? Railway? PIA? Steal Mill? How many more agents will be our Ministers in Federal and Provincial Cabinets so even Prime Minister or Cheif Minister could not touch them. So if you want a change keep changing faces until someone quite resistant came in. Its call hit and trial method. 
Einstein once said,"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".
Its better to be foolish than insane.
"Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish"

Asadsamy

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We have to stop relying on our leaders .....my friends the life is very easy to live the almighty gave us brains to think.....and hands to work, stop asking for help (for who will help us) look at yr neighbor there name is proudly known all over the world ( they excel in education, they are hard workers as we are) they made there spot in the world now it's our time ......plz plz stop asking for help try to stand on yr own feet ,let me give all a very small example the baby of an animal stands on it's feet within a week or so with little help from it's mother, what about us it's almost 50 years now Pakistan have not learnt to stand on it's feet.....what a shame......let's get out from our homes and let's excel in the field in which we feel we are the best and no one can defeat us.....think my friends,again stop depending on leaders and trust in god ( better late than never

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In Daily Jang (12-11-2011) News publish about this Discussion on back page....

I want clear one thing here.... I said PTI will be new MQM in Punjab... i said this because General Zia-ul-Haq Shaheed make MQM in Sindh against PPP and today's Establishment using PTI against PML-N (specially) & PPP.

I 100% sure .... PTI will not do any thing like MQM doing in Karachi and PTI will do only Politics.



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Imran Ghazali

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Imran Khan has said that tickets will only be allotted from PTI's
platform to people who declare their assets.

When the person who is leading the team is honest, clean and not
corrupt he can control others. With the traditional parties PPP, PML-N
its the opposite case there the top leadership is most corrupt both
financially and morally!



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> As per my information Mr Khattak last month was in search of mian Nawaz shareef n it was expected to hold a jalsa in karrak of Mian Nawaz shareef. Then 28th or 30th October came and Mr. Khattak changed his mind. Does he get any direction from any one or not?
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> Now please look... who and who joining PTI, ex-IB chief Masood Sharif
> Khattak. Who knows better than Kamran Khan, who did a story on Khattak. I
> am sure he will recall his news of Khattan on Mir Murtaza Bhutto's murder
> case. Can't say much on the joining of ex-igp Sardar Yaqub, but certainly
> such people can't help PTI, much. Kaptan must not get too much excited over
> people joining PTI, as people often join the party in good time and
> must not forget those who stoodby when Imran was ruled out in politics.
> mazhar
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Aijaz Ahmed <k_aij...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >   I think having heavyweights or not is not an issue, for me issue are
> > different through which one can judge IK's present onslaught and the future
> > politics.
>
> > 1   he is the man who despite having a play boy image entered in the
> > politics on the shoulders on Hameed Gul
>
> > 2    IK does not and could not refute allegations of having the agency
> > links. I disagree with Ch.Nisar on many issues, but in a recent TV
> > interview he maintained that he knew those who are playing as link between
> > IK and establishment, in addition he claimed that he is well aware of the
> > man in agency who promotes Imran Khan.
>
> > 3   Imran believes in using illegitimate and illegal means for good! This
> > could b useful and fruitful at times, but a true Democrat can never support
> > this idea. How come you will stop someone in futuire to use those same
> > negative means for his personal interests?
>
> > 4    Imran time and gain claims to bring amajor change, but how, does he
> > has any road map. How would he stop drone attacks? A man who himself failed
> > to declare his assets and their present value would ask others to do so? He
> > claims 439 qacrs of land in Mian Chanun of just 50000 rupees, is it
> > acceptable?A
>
> > Aijaz
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> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Javed Iqbal <javaid.p...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=javaid.p...@gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
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> >  > Assalam-o-Alaikum to All.....
>
> > > PTI Chief Imran Khan continuously saying for Change in Pakistan, and
> > > he did very successful Campaign at Minar Pakistan. but Imran Khan
> > > alliance with Jehanir Tareen and his company, every one know These are
> > > Establishment's players. Now very soon Aijaz-ul-Haq and Humayun Akhter
> > > also go forward for alliance with Imran Khan, Mian Azhar already on
> > > Imran Khan's Ship.
>
> > > May be Establishment completely using to Imran Khan, and that's why
> > > Media supporting him and he is against only Nawaz Sharif, he also
> > > against Asif Ali Zardari but not like he is against Nawaz Sharif.
>
> > > I Think, Youngster running again behind New Face but not doing
> > > exercise for Change.......
>
> > > May be in future PTI will be new MQM in Punjab.
>
> > > LETS SEE WHAT IMRAN KHAN WILL DO FOR CHANGE.
>
> > > Javed Iqbal
> > > Karachi
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sahir geo

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Here is the link of news published in Daily Jang based on this ongoing discussion about Imran Khan.
http://ejang.jang.com.pk/11-12-2011/Karachi/pic.asp?picname=1040.gif

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Very rightly said by Imran Ghazali, in the light of Imran Khans clean background, one should not expect that Khan would let new entrants loose to give bad name to PTI. Imran and his party is struggling since last 16 years, and is not created overnight like IJI, all the more people of Pakistan after testing both main stream parties are attracted towards PTI. Creating unnecessary doubts against PTI  is like damaging your own country. Let a new team to work for the benefit of our country, without forwarding unnecessary theories.  

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PTI does need to find some winning candidates if it is to have any realistic chance of coming into power. But that does not mean it cannot do any good. Its policy that it will only give party tickets to those who fully declare their assets and have not been involved in corruption is a very important and sensible one. What alternative do his critics propose anyway?

yasmeen taha

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All the politicians who r cornered by their parties r joining PTI,we can only wait for Mojizas,so that with these politicians Imran will change our system.
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Javed Iqbal

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Another Establishment's Fruit fall in Imran Khan's Bucket, Now Revolution Aya he Aya.
PML-N Expelled Faiz Timman because of Fake Degree and he join Youngester Educated party PTI for Revolution.
 
So every one can Evaluation which kind of Revolution will come in the leadership of Kaptan Khan.
 
But one thing is to think, May be Javed Hashmi and Shah Mehmood Qureshi will do work for Cease-fire b/w PTI and PML-N.....but it is very difficult to say .....  
 

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Muhammad Shahbaz

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Shah M Quershi will be PM from T Insaf; IK can just relax

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Leaders bring change ....not some candidates or old faces
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Just received this message on phone...
Today tsunami crossed Rahim Yar Khan and Zafar Iqbal Warraich joined PTI. Zafar Iqbal Warraich was minister of state for interior with Musharraf for five years and supervised the massacre and carnage in Laal Masjid. He was the head of Islamabad administration and police which dragged the chief justice on the constitution avenue and all 60 judges were house arrested on his watch. Is it tsunami of change or the musharraf team repackaged under a new leader?
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mazhar abbas

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Imran should avoid using word tsunami:
     I understand the excitement among Imran supporters and followers as they started feeling the heat of getting good results in the next elections. One wish Imran and his followers best of luck but i wonder what kind of tsunami he is talking. Tsunami always bring destruction and damage and at times even those who issue tsunami warning become the victim. Imran certainly is attracting good crowd and there is a sigh of wave but elections are still far away (if not held earlier) and he must keep his energy intact for the last 10 overs. Who knows better then Imran that you don't expose your good bowlers so eary.
     Since the rise of Imran the cricket terms are being used in politics as well. Imran announced that he would bowled two wickets in one ball while Ch Nisar has question his claim, saying you can not knocked out two wickets in one ball. Yes, Imran can if he bowled a No, ball and get someone stumped or run out and then get another one next ball. But in cricket Imran has the reputation of bowling very few No balls. But politicians can bowl lot of no balls like Mohammad Aamir or Mohammad Asif.
    Let see how Imran get two wickets in one ball i.e. of Zardari and Nawaz. All depend one the "umpires." In politics we don't have neutral umpires and they don't wear white uniform also.
    One only hope that the political world cup will be held on batting wicket because 60 plus politicians can't bat on bouncy wickets. Imran too will be 60 next year.
Mazhar
   

RYK NEWS

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When I asked this question to IMRAN KHAN, he replied me that


" 2 number logon ko party mein aa kar 1 number banaon ga aur un sa kaam lon ga"


All corrupt people, who joined my party will be forced to work honestly.

Said Imran Khan at last night procession at MUMTAZ MUSTAFA house. 

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Imran Khan is so ambitious, thinks he will become Prime Minister like he won 1992 World Cup. He can dream and try but collecting garbage & Lotas he has become an ordinary politician. Where is his youth, middle class & civil society.
Saifullah Saify
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Crisp n sassy nd dot on! :)
Very well written sir
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Correction! Mr. Mazhar Abbas u  only get RUN OUT on a no ball; not STUMPED 

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So PTI has become recycling unit of garbage?

Saifullah Saify
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If imran is bad as well plz advise us who is not bad and talks some logic and a patriotic to Pakistan , u think the present situation of the country are the leaders good and do they talk crap or talk some logic ( u decide) it is high time to bring the rule of shah ( turkey) 

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There is no other choice except IK now. Buy IK must be very careful by these notorious new entries. 

Dr S. Anwar Iqbal

Haroon Rashid Toor

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These are the same words Gen Musharaf talked, when people said you are picking the same team of rotten politicians even heaving "NAB', he replied I have no choice........, es dafa bhi Faristey vote dalein gey

 
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There is a hell of negativity in the minds of our people; they always doubt and try to portray fiction as facts; same peole heckling against Imran Khan had branded Quaid-i-Azam as 'KAAFIR-I-AZAM', then they  dubbed Allama Iqbal as nonbeliver, then these people had been abusing Madir-i-Millat Fatima Jinnah and praising General Ayoub Khan, then they kept on scolding Bhutto as an anti-Pakistan figuer, similar comments were passed against Benazir Bhutto; many third rated and so called journalists like Zahid Malik of Pakistan Observer termed her as an Indian agent; and now is the turn of Imran Khan; one should acknowledge that this is the last chance of survival of Pakistan and both Zardari and Nawaz Sharif have proved it twice and thrice that they are incompetent and dishonest; let Imran bold all these guys then God willing he would be able to form a brilliant team; I am a Kashmiri born in Quetta and I challenge that people from Quetta especially Pashtoons could do any thing for money; they could plant bombs, carry out killings and could commit all crimes, but their adult men cannot dance on the streets for money or under threat; but I noticed that so many people including old aged women were dancing in the public meeting of Imran Khan in Lahore; does it mean that intelligence agencies are doing it; all guys trying to defame Imran are actually trying to kill a sense of hope that he has given to the youth of Pakistan.
Aslam Butt
 

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MIRZA AFTAB BAIG

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Dear All,
Yes, in cricket you can OUT two batsmen with one bowel and that is LAST couple and the batting wicket, when 10th man out and 11th go to pavilion with him also, Technically 11th is out as well as he can't bat on his own,
In Pakistan Corrupt Politician Team's last men are batting and Imran's bowling............so there are chances of ALL OUT this team,
secondly, if agencies are behind Imran, so WHAT? When they support Nawaz,Zardari,Altaf,Asfandyar, Fazal ur Rehman, IJI so on.... its OK but luckily if FIRST TIME they support an HONEST person(so far), why our nation should not give him chance??
THINK FOR PAKISTAN NOT FOR YOUR PERSONAL INTERESTS PLEASE IT IS 21ST CENTURY AND PAKISTANI NEED CHANGE OTHERWISE ASK USA TO TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY SO OUR YOUTH DON'T LOOK FOR GREEN CARDS ANY MORE
 
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To"Out two batsmen with one bowel"! Even for Imran Khan that may be too daunting a prospect,Mirza Sahib,don't you think? Abida Hussain
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Javed Iqbal

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There are many Questions after what Shah Mehmood Qureshi Reveals about President Zardari…..

 

 

Shah Mehmood Qureshi has any answer of some Questions?

 

If President Zardari is security risk, why you remain 3 years in Govt as Foreign Minister?

Was President Zardari clean till than you was Foreign Minister?

If you remain FM, than what position of President Zardari?

If Mr. Zardari is risk for Nuclear Assets, than why you were silent as FM?

Now After PML and PPP when you leaving PTI? (Will you decide your self or Khan’s Umpires ?)

 

I think Another General Zameer is working for Next Election and may be some Heavyweights of PML-Q and Ham Khayal will join PTI soon, after this exercise may be PTI will play role what PML-Q plaid after 2002 elections.

 

Let’s see, what will be future of Pakistan after Next Election…

 
 
 
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Raja Faryad

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no body is certain that he will bring change in pakistan, but he will surely help to divide PMLN votes for the interest of PPP and others.
Raja Faryad Khan
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Jawaid Qazi

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Faryad Bahi, let me be very clear to tell you that I am not member of any political party in UK or Pakistan, but kum uz kum its time our nation had a third untried force, I am not saying that the third force will bring changes, and as far as old face's goes if the leader is strict and clean I am sure the team will have fear to get involve in corruption.
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Javed Iqbal

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If this news is true, than Dr. Shireen Mazari's Resign telling the story about Future of Pakistan Tehreek Insaf....
 
Shah Mehmood Qureshi Sahib, do you remember these days... I think you are missing Hilary Friendship...and gave resign PPP, and join PTI....
 
 
 
Javed Iqbal
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Haroon Rashid Toor

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Poor change seeker believe that Imran has untried force, If a Team "Captain" does not believe in his team and run after Winning "Candidates" how can he bring change, coz "winning" candidates only need plat form to avoid floor crossing law. Imran is running the same horse trading race to get power, and that does not allow him any change.
PTI is now become good "Cocktail/tutti frutti" party, trying to out the two player in one bowl without know his captaincy may be in danger after joining of Shah Mahmood Qureshi and other expected candidate like other like minded.there is a saying "If i lose confidence in me the whole world is against me"
 
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S.M.K Durrani

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Qureshi is a selfish power hungry person, belonging to feudal family, vowing to end the feudal  system in sindh, nothing but a political slogan,  PTI leaders and workers should remain vigilant to safe guard the interest of their party as he is a person who had also trying to make his way in PML-N after failing opted to join PTI . If given an open hand he will even ditch Imran Khan.  Great care is needed to keep him under control. Probably this is a sad moment for PTI to have him in its fold fold.  

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Congratulations guys, now rapists and murderers have becum part of PTI. The whole sindh and karachi know what i am talking about but PTI does not. The real change coming. :)
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Aqil Sajjad

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Why do journalists talk in riddles? Who exactly are you referring to and what is the background here?

AMIR MURTAZA

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First of all I do not belong to any party as I hate democracy.
 
I just want to draw ur attention toward few things, rest decision is urs.
 
Hazarat Muhammad(SAW) had received first WOOHEE at the age of 40. He was the beloved prophet of Allah. If Allah wanted he could have grant WOOHEE at the age of 20 or 30.
 
But as according to science and the reason of Allah sending WOOHEE at the age of 40 was that:
40 years is the age where a man reaches peak of his his maturity stage.
If he does not become mature by 40 then will never grow up and become mature man according to science and Allah HIKMAH.
 
Now come to Imran Khan:
I have few questions:
1)      Is he not the culprit of setting wrong examples for youth in cricket, not to listen to the management and do whatever he wants?
2)      Is he not dictator?
3)      What about Seta White case file in Los Angeles on July 30, 1997?
4)      Whom he decided to married in the age of 40?
5)      If he thinks he did a right decision then why divorce?
6)      He said Jamima became Muslim, is she Muslim? Look at her latest picture at net.
7)      How he fulfill his sexual requirement till the age of 40?
As nowadays a man and a women required sex by the age of 16.
That is why Islam says: if a person get BALUGH and had commit adultery it will be a fault of the parents. Meaning they should be married before such act.
 
Let suppose he becomes leader of Pakistan and later died.
8)      Who will be his successors in country where trend revolve around personalities?
A person from party which is not possible OR his English children? As you know they are with their mother since there birth and it is scientifically proved that children are more attach to and influenced by their mother then question arises:
9)      Will they be Pakistani or again an Englishmen?
10)  What u feel, when u heard news about ex-wife of ur leader found in nude cloths with holly wood stars?
11)  Does our honor or dignity permit that?
12)  Given ticket of NA-55 to Jazi Khan with 30 criminal cases against him was a recent blunder of his immaturity and lie?
13)  What if we build a party on LOTAS who were looters, in past parties and switch hands when they feel they will lose power and join emerging power to keep their power, and then what is the difference between PTI and Pervez Musharaf Kings party?
14)  He said if leadership is sincere everyone under it can be managed. My question is dear so called leader why you not able to manage a woman called JAMIMA first?
15)  What about three hundred kanal house in Buni Gala? People in three hundred kanal houses do not know the problem of poor.
16)  What about 520 kanal Zameen bought for only Rs 50,000 in Mian Chunoo as declared?
17)  Do we really rely on a person who himself admitted in his book that he helped           SATTA BAAZ and cleared his party debt?
18)  “Kashmir can wait, let’s do trade” what we expect from such traitors?
19)  Kashmir NO more territorial issue and is human right issue?
For 14 and 15 watch defensive hungry for power Imran Khan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJvomNq_0vs
 
Yes all our past and present leaders are corrupt, hungry for power and lack ability to take bold decisions as they do not want to forgo AYASHEE but remember one thing, Nainat-Ullah Shah a great WALLEE said in his poetry 800 years ago “this nation will commit great mistake by choosing a leader and Allah will make them suffer for that sin and take out history Bhutto was the only leader elected or invented by Nawojawan and Pakistani nation and are suffering till 1970s. As Pakistani Nawojawan consider him different and only choice.
 
Please do not make same mistake again and make urself and ur generation suffer for next 40 years by electing or inventing Imran Khan as leader.
 
Imran Khan's and Seata White Case:
 
AS WE DO NOT HAVE MUCH TIME.
IT IS DO OR DIE SITUATION. THEREFORE AVIOD SUCH DECISIONS LIKE IN 70’S.
Many people will say there are masses behind him and I say to them masses were behind Z.A Bhutto too and we end up with Zardari.
Allah Hafiz.
 
 
 










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NOTE FOR THOSE WHO REALLY CARE:
I am 110% sure and shouting out loud for many years now that US will attack Pakistan directly or most probably indirectly by using the shoulder of India by 2015 as declared WAR. But undeclared WAR is already on to paralyze us just like Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya by CIA, MOSSAD, RAW and MI6 using defense contractors, USAID, DFID, diplomats, TTP and other so called Jihadist organizations. As capitalism is on its knees and it needs blood. But to counter this threat we should revolutionized Pakistan in next two years and free Pakistan from ruling elite who are selling our dignity since 1857. REVOLUTION IS COMING so keep your eyes on all 14 AUGUSTS till 2017


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S.M.K Durrani

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Now PTI for sure  is in trouble, having an opportunist in their fold, don't let this juggler to destroy PTI. Had he been such a popular leader having massive following than he should have opted for his own party to test his popularity rather than taking refuge behind PTI.


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Did any one noticed imran khan pride after his lahore procession??
Few days bk he went some whre ppl were standing for his reception. He came out from his car. Didn't show any of gesture to them even didn't respond to their salam.. He was focusing on his blackberry screen n was busy in chat. He stayed there for more then one hour n didn't talk to any other except a one lady.
In Ghotki jalsa when shah mehmood said " imran khan aaj se men apki team ka khilari hoon " imran khan was so proud n he didn't show his political sense. He even was nt ready to stand t some one from behind pushed him the he stood up n clapped.

I was noticing that and thinking God forbid if he will some seats then what could be the level of his pride??

Few days bk when Masood shareef khattak joined PTI his workers wanted to play National Anthum before Press confrence like prime minister or president is going to speak to the Nation or adressing any gathering...

Dnt knw what they r thinkinkg abt imran???


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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:10:58 +0500
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Malik Abdul Rehman Jami

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Although I am not a spokesman of Imran Khan but just for knowledge sake I want to ask one question. If Nawaz Shareef is allowed to work with so many land grabbers and looters and Zardari is also having so many culprits then what is the fun in criticizing Imran only. yes if he issues tickets to these culprits then we must stand against him.Regards
 

On 8 November 2011 16:32, Javed Iqbal <javai...@gmail.com> wrote:
Assalam-o-Alaikum to All.....

PTI Chief Imran Khan continuously saying for Change in Pakistan, and
he did very successful Campaign at Minar Pakistan. but Imran Khan
alliance with Jehanir Tareen and his company, every one know These are
Establishment's players. Now very soon Aijaz-ul-Haq and Humayun Akhter
also go forward for alliance with Imran Khan, Mian Azhar already on
Imran Khan's Ship.

May be Establishment completely using to Imran Khan, and that's why
Media supporting him and he is against only Nawaz Sharif, he also
against Asif Ali Zardari but not like he is against Nawaz Sharif.

I Think, Youngster running again behind New Face but not doing
exercise for Change.......

May be in future PTI will be new MQM in Punjab.

LETS SEE WHAT IMRAN KHAN WILL DO FOR CHANGE.



Javed Iqbal
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I am agree jami sb, theese people are aigents,of other party,s
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 20:37:05 +0500
Subject: Re: How Imran Khan will change Pakistan with Old Faces ????

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Javed Iqbal

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Abdul Jami Sahib......

Imran Khan presenting himself as a Angel and crystal clear man, he also give too much hope to youngsters for change and revolution, So Do you think change can possible with old faces ? All rejected politicians from PML-Q joining PTI. So how he will change ?

After Lahore Jalsa, he is fully with arrogance and too much self sufficiency in his behavior, Imran Khan should know men are joining his party they can leave him any time on any big opportunity, because they all are opportunist.

Actually, Imran Khan knows he playing with Old Players, and revolution come only with New and Energetic Men, So he is running only for Power.


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Javed Iqbal

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When Imran Khan will give solid answer of Chaudhry Nisar's Press Conference ?
Can Imran Khan tell, how he is running his party since 15 years, Specially since last 1 year (i.e after meeting with General Pasha) ?
How PTI manage too much expenses on their Rallies and Jalsa in last few months ?

After Successful Jalsa in Lahore, Imran Khan looking in Pheron's attitude, he should know This is not Cricket Team, this is politics and This kind of attitude in Politics can Damage him.



Javed Iqbal
Karachi


On 3 December 2011 02:08, Waqar Saeed Sheikh <vik...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Javed Sb,
 
Na Imran Khan nay kabhi kaha hay kay wooo ANGEL hay or na hi hum loog joo ussay support ker rahay hain woo ussay ANGEL samaghtay hain or kuch ho na hoo yeah crystal clear hay kay woo crpt nahin hay in ki tarhan jinhoon nay barriyan laggaio huwi hain or aap jaissay logoon ko apna zahni or jismani her tarhan ka ghulam banaya huwa hay. Or jahan tak rahi youngsters ko hope ki baat too challain koi HOPE dilla too raha hay kissi cheez ki, or rahi old faces ki baat too agar koi insaan sidhay rastay par chalna chahta hay too aap nay agar khud sidha rasta ikhtiar nahin kerna too ussay too chalnay dain aap ki too wohi baat hoo gye kay aik banda NAMAZ nahin partha thaa us nay NAMAZ parhani start ki too log kehnay lagay yeah too pahlay namaz nahin parhta thaa too jnab koi agar sahi kam kerna chahta hay too ussay kernay dain chahay pooranma hoo yaan naiya kernay too sidha kam hi lagga hay naa. 

or main IMRAN KHAN ki iss baat say 110% ittfaq kerta hoon kay agar LIONS ka LEADER DOG ho ga too LIONS bhi DOGS ki tarhan kay kam karrain gay or agar DOGS ka LEADER LION hoo too DOGS bhi LIONS ki tarhan kay kam kerrain gay. AZMISH SHART HAY AAP LOGOON KO GUMRAH KERNA CHOORAIN OR HUM JAISSI KUTTI AWAM PAR IMRAN KHAN LION KO AANAY DAIN YAHI KUTTI AWAM NA LIONS KI TARHAN HOO JAI TOO PHIR BAAT KERNA.
 
Hum logoon ka assal masla yeah hay kay hum sub kay sub crpt hain or issi liyah jo log nahin chahtay kay yahan crptn khattam hoo woo log nahin chahtay kay IMRAN KHAN jaissay log un kay upper hukmran aain kiyun kay phir sub koo theek honna parray gaa jo hum log honna nahin chahtay.
 
Agar purranay faces say kuch na honna hotta too hamarray pairay nabi MUHAMMAD SAW HAZRAT OMER ko kabhi na kehtay kay woo islam kabool ker lain yaan martay dum tak abujahal ko islam main dakhil hinay ki dawat na daittay rahtay sidhay rastay par aanay kay liyyah kissi  age yaan new and old honnay ka taluq nahin hay.
 
So logoon ko gumrah kerna choorain or aap bhi sidhay rastay par aanay ki kooshish karrain.
 
WAQAR SAEED
RAWALPINDI

 


 

Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:23:01 +0500

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Dr S Anwar Iqbal

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One suggestion to PTI
Let me suggest IK and PTI not to waste their time and energy to discus only Sharif brothers assets. They must focus on their program and manifesto.  

Dr S. Anwar Iqbal

sahir geo

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بریکنگ نیوز: عمران خان نے وینا ملک کو تحریکِ انصاف میں شامِل ہونے کی دعوت دے دی ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ کیونکہ وینا ملک نے اپنے تمام اثاثے ظاہر کر دیے ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

Imran Khan has invited Veena Malik to join PTI.... because she has shown her all assets :p

Please take it as political humor. No offense, please!

sajjad shah

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take Islamabad area for example, two candidates declared themselves as nominated candidate by Imran Khan for the next election, ( hoardings and banners are also can be seen in rural areas f isb) i. ch ilyas mehrban, 2. jameel abbasi, ch ilyas is a renowned businessman involved in crimes, land grabbers etc, dozens of FIR had registered against him and his brothers in different police stations, 2. Jameel Abbasi, leading character who were involved in black water inter risk weapons scam, that clearly shows that Imran Khan has no sense in choosing his candidates at all. and any one who is clever enough to fool him, can join PTI and get Ticket.

 
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اسلام آباد ریجنل آرگنائزر تحریک انصاف زیاد عباسی نے آج ایک پریس ریلیز جاری کی ہے جس میں انھوں نے کہا ہے کہ اسلام آباد کے دونوں حلقوں کے لئے ٹکٹ کا فیصلہ پارلیمانی بورڈ کرے گا اور کوئی بھی ورکر پارٹی کے بارے میں میڈیا پر بیان بازی یا الزام تراشی نہیں کرے گا۔ اگر کرے گا تو اس کے خلاف کاروائی ہو گی ۔

حالانکہ پارٹی کے چیئرمین عمران خان میڈیا کے سامنے حلقہ 48 کے بارے میں اعلان کرچکے ہیں کہ الیاس مہربان اس حلقہ سے الیکشن لڑیں گے۔

 الیاس مہربان کا کہنا ہے کہ اگر چیئرمین تحریک پاکستان کا اختیار تھا تو انھوں نے میرے ٹکٹ کا اعلان کیا تھا اگر نہ ہوتا تو وہ نہ کرتے جس کی ویڈیو پارٹی کی ویب سائٹ پر موجود ہے 
اگر الیکشن سے پہلے پارٹی کا یہ حال ہے تو تحریک انصاف آگے جا کر کیا کرے گی ۔

اس وقت یہ ہی ضلعی ٹیم تھی جس نے عمران خان سے الیاس مہربان کے ٹکٹ کا فیصلہ کروایا تھا ۔ 
اب کون سی ایسی شخصیت آ گئی ہے جس کے لیے زیاد عباسی اپنے پارٹی چیئرمین کے فیصلے کو رد کر رہے ہیں۔

 کیا اَس کا مطلب یہ نہ ہوا کہ یہ لوگ فیصلے کی صلاحیت ہی نہیں رکھتے ۔

ضلح اسلام آباد میں تو جب سے تحریک انصاف وجود میں آئی ہے کوئی بھی گروپ زیادہ عرصہ نہیں چل سکا۔ اس کی سمجھ آج تک تحریک انصاف کے مرکزی آفس کو بھی نہیں آ سکی ۔

ندیم چوہدری، پی این پی



You are very right. now the things are very open. the way hispublic
meeting was made successfull the way section of the media is blowing
him up and the way just with one public meeting many political figures
suden;y jumped into his party is open secret  that indicates some
force is behind this circus , the very force that does not like nawz
shareef.
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Another young but too old leader Air Marshall (r) Asghar Khan join PTI, Now Revolution must come but via USA through Backdoor Diplomacy of Imran Khan.

Actually Pakistani Youth is Extremely Emotional and Imran Khan playing with their Sentiments.




Javed Iqbal
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2011/12/8 nadeem choudhry <nade...@pnp.com.pk>
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خیبر پختونخواہ اسمبلی کے رکن پرویز خٹک کی تحریک انصاف میں شمولیت کے موقع پر ہونے والی ہنگامہ آرائی سے ثابت ہوتا ہے کہ مستقبل میں تحریک انصاف کو مزید مسائل کا سامنا کرنا پڑے گا، نوجوان لازمی سوچنے پر مجبور ہوجائیں گے کہ کیا تحریک انصاف واقعی اپنے نعرے پر عمل کرسکتی ہے یا نہیں ؟ عمران خان کے لہجے میں غرور و تکبر سے لگتا ہے کہ وہ اپنے علاوہ پاکستان بھر کے تمام سیاستدانوں کو مارنا چاہتا ہے۔


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2011/12/12 Javed Iqbal <javai...@gmail.com>

Abdul Jabbar Faisal

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Imran's party has no roots in Islamabad and this type of controversies would come up with the passage of time. PTA will not win a single seat from Islamabad and every one would try to get the label of PTI during the forth coming general elections. 

2011/12/12 Javed Iqbal <javai...@gmail.com>

Hina Zafar

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Dec 12, 2011, 1:51:45 PM12/12/11
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ONE MAN SHOW ....

Youth have no brain, they run after every new face, ... so very tough to saw any hope in future regarding PTI work for Pakistan ....

S.M.K Durrani

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 Very good omen , the best shot ever played by Imran, it will form a combination of young & seniors.  Whats a problem. calling  uncalled for aspersions is very much unlike Muslims. Imran khan today is a true Leader and role model of our youth. Gentleman relax and enjoy.
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Dr S Anwar Iqbal

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If not Imran then who? Monis Elahi, Hamza Shrif, Marriam Shrif, Bilawal Zardari , Mosa Gilani or others nephews of jageedar or industrialists. Pl don't destroy the "HOPE". 

AMIR MURTAZA

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Aslam-O-Aliykum,

PTI will never ever come to the government as it will disintegrate way before election.

PTI workers fight over Khattak’s joining the party
Staff Report

ISLAMABAD: Two groups of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Nowshehra fought over the dispute of membership of Parvez Khattak on Monday.

According to sources, former provincial minister Parvez Khattak came to Islamabad to announce his affiliation with PTI during press conference along with Imran Khan.

Sajid Kamriani, leading another group reached the PTI secretariat and started protesting against Khattak. They alleged that Khattak was a corrupt person and PTI has no space for corrupt persons so he should not be allowed to join PTI.

Later they entered in the secretariat and both groups scuffled with each other. They threw chairs at each other and used battens. Kamriani was injured as batten was struck on his head.

PTI Chairman Imran Khan decided to postpone the press conference and Khattak group was instructed to leave from the place while other group stayed and kept protesting.

PTI President Islamabad Amir Mughal said that Khattak group was instructed to leave after the clash between two groups and matter would be resolved through dialogue.

PTI spokesperson Rizwan said that Khan had announced that a committee would sort out the issue however; names of the members of the committee would be announced later.
NOWSHERA: The office-bearers of the Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf (PTI) in all the union councils of Nowshera district including its women wing Sunday opposed the likely entry of Khyber Pakh-tunkhwa Irrigation Minister Pervez Khattak into the party fold.

The office-bearers of the PTI including district organiser of women workers, Seema Aurangzeb, during a meeting in Pabbi town in Nowshera said they would question the decision of the party’s leadership made in the drawing rooms.

They said that it was a conspiracy that the politicians having poor credentials were given chance in the PTI as they were opting for the party due to its popularity among the masses. However, they pointed out that the workers of the party were concerned over the inclusion of rolling stones from other political parties into the PTI.

They added that the party workers from NA-5 and NA-6 led by Seema Aurangzeb would hold protest outside the PTI office in Islamabad against the induction of Pervez Khattak in the party today (Monday).

They said the workers were dismayed over the decision of the party leadership for allowing corrupt politicians to join PTI. Meanwhile, PTI Deputy President in Nowshera Sajid Gumaryani resigned from his office to protest the decision of the PTI leadership regarding induction of Pervez Khattak into the party.
 










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NOTE FOR THOSE WHO REALLY CARE:
I am 110% sure and shouting out loud for many years now that US will attack Pakistan directly or most probably indirectly by using the shoulder of India by 2015 as declared WAR. But undeclared WAR is already on to paralyze us just like Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya by CIA, MOSSAD, RAW and MI6 using defense contractors, USAID, DFID, diplomats, TTP and other so called Jihadist organizations. As capitalism is on its knees and it needs blood. But to counter this threat we should revolutionized Pakistan in next two years and free Pakistan from ruling elite who are selling our dignity since 1857. REVOLUTION IS COMING so keep your eyes on all 14 AUGUSTS till 2017


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U r right non of them Mian Azhar zain qureshi. Shah mahmood qureshe. Pervez khattak khawaja hoti iftikhar jagra all old faces rejected by other parties wl bring change
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Alan Gray

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We published this today:

Pakistani Man Executed in China Still Lives In His Mother's Dreams
http://newsblaze.com/story/20111213065347gull.nb/topstory.html

I don't know if the man was guilty or not, very few people really know,
but for me, the interesting things in this case are:

1. Never lie, even if you think it will help you.
  - he was fooled into pleading guilty when he said he wasn't guilty
  - don't admit guilt if you are innocent

2. Pick your business partners wisely
  - if your partners seem shady, don't associate with them

3. Be aware of the law and its consequences
  - don't break the law
  - especially when you are in another country.

4. Be aware of who you vote for
  - if you dont vote, you get jackals and it is partly your fault
  - your responsibility doesn't end at the voting booth


Make the world a better place.



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Rabab Khan

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This story is similar to so many others. Sadly, most of them do not even get the little exposure that this one has. 
Your observations are very accurate and hold true for almost anyone travelling to a foreign country. 
Thanks for sharing this here.
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Imran’s new media czar was his strongest critic

Umar Cheema
Thursday, December 15, 2011

 
ISLAMABAD: As Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf (PTI) is flooded with newcomers, the appointment of a fresh recruit, Shafqat Mehmood, as secretary information has raised many eyebrows as he was one of the ardent critics of Imran Khan, terming him a “signal failure”.

In a strange twist of fate, Shafqat Mehmood has replaced Omer Sarfraz Cheema, as secretary information who had been regularly sending rejoinders to Shafqat’s diatribe against Imran Khan, not realising that this man would soon be grabbing his position as the party grows in size and space.

Shafqat wrote in an article on Imran that as a “westernised liberal person” while he was railing “against something called western culture, which was a straight forward rejection of modernisation.”

His article published in The News on May 15, 2009 titled “Imran Khan’s strange politics” (http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=177589&Cat=9&dt=5/15/2009) and Omer’s subsequent rejoinder defending Imran, are quite instructive to determine how the wind of change leaves an impact on hearts and minds.

Lauding his contribution in sports and social work in that article, Shafqat then started counting Imran’s shortcomings: “When it comes to politics and policy though, the same Imran is unfortunately a signal failure.”

“It can be truly said of him that he never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity,” wrote Shafqat about Imran. He was probably right as he never missed an opportunity to grab a good position.

A former bureaucrat, Shafqat was joint secretary in the Prime Minister’s Secretariat when appointed Special Assistant to PM Benazir Bhutto, then got elected as PPP senator, later took oath in President Farooq Laghari’s caretaker cabinet after Benazir was sent home. He didn’t stop here.

Shafqat also served under Pervaiz Musharraf in the Punjab’s cabinet. But when it came to attacking Imran, he criticised him for joining hands with Musharraf in his early days. In Shafqat’s word, Imran “flip-flopped with Musharraf — supporting him in the rigged referendum, opposing him in the ensuing general election — and got the worst of both worlds.”

By the time, his article was published in May 2009, Shafqat was voicing support of Mian Nawaz Sharif while lambasting Imran for foolish choices and missing opportunities. He continued: “He (Imran) could have teamed up with Nawaz Sharif in 1997 and got his party a presence in parliament. He did not.”

A politician should know, he went to explain, which battles can be won and which are a lost cause. Shafqat then thought that “Imran is on the wrong side of history.” His frustration against Imran was also based on the latter’s stance on militancy as PTI chief was opposed to army operation in tribal areas and Swat and thought that Imran is opponent of modernisation.

According to Shafqat, Imran’s biggest policy blunder was his stance on militants: “But, all these mistakes pale in comparison when measured up against his obsessive, single track refusal to understand that these barbarian hordes targeting Fata and Malakand division are a threat to our country. He has just one mantra that this is America’s fault, America’s fault, America... etc. America has contributed to it but is that the only problem we confront?”

Terming himself a westernised liberal, he wrote: “If he does not want to believe a ‘westernised liberal’ like me, he should read Saleem Saafi in Jang or others that know these people well.” At the end of his article, he urged Imran to stand with the people and armed forces.

Omer’s job at the time was to defend party leadership’s policy, right or wrong, that he did through issuing a rejoinder published four-days later (http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=178276&Cat=11&dt=5/19/2009), not realising that this man would usurp his position doing the same job, no matter it is intellectually right or wrong.

Responding to a set of queries, Shafqat told The News that he now has had a change of heart towards Imran and that he has “always liked Imran” and his misunderstandings about PTI chief removed after having detailed sittings with him.

“Imran is a good politician. The change we dream of is only possible through him,” said Shafqat whose opinion has transformed now. Imran has two essential qualities a leader must possess: honesty and determination, he explained, and clarified that the slot he has been given was not his dream position as he wanted to focus on policy matters.

Talking about the above-quoted article, Shafqat said he had lambasted Imran for opposing operation against militants without clearly understanding what PTI chief really meant. “But detailed discussions later on convinced me about Imran’s vision on how to combat militancy,” he said.

Asked about his speculative plan of joining PML-N in 2009, Shafqat acknowledged that he had several meetings with the N-leadership but those were all about policy matters and he was invited as an analyst, not a potential new entrant.

He acknowledged working under Musharraf but declared it as a wrong decision. Shafqat said he had served in bureaucracy and politics but nobody can point fingers towards his financial integrity

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It seems like the rebirth of now deceased IJI. I guess people have no principals and are shameless. Look at Shah Mahmood who only found out about Zaradari when he was offered a ministry he didn't like, what a shame.

I would term this as moral corruption but IK only refers to financial corruption as corruption.

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Javed Iqbal

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Actually Imran Khan destroying HOPE him self, all old faces those really rejected joining PTI and Imran giving HOPE to youth and Nation, this is totally drama and Imran Playing with Nation's Specially Youth's sentiments. Shah Mehmood Qureshi join him because he want Foreign Ministry but PPP didn't give him, since than he is speaking against Asif Ali Zradari, do you think this kind of leaders (Jageerdar) can change Pakistan in Positive ???

Imran Khan continuously Criticize USA, but since his reveal of his meeting with Cameron Munter and Munter said (Imran is not against USA and we can work with him), Imran looking soft about USA.

Shah Mehmood Qureshi, Mian Azhar, Asghar Khan, Faiz Timman, Khursheed Kasuri (possibly joining PTI), and many more Persons like them never give Positive Change to Pakistan. They all Jageerdars.....

I completely agree with Hina Zafar ... PTI still ONE MAN SHOW and youth really have no brain and they are extremely emotional (This's so Sad).

Actually Imran Khan killing Youth.....



Javed Iqbal
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Umer Javed

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عمران خان نے جن سے انقلاب کا نعرہ لگیا ہے اس وقت سے کہہ رہے تھے کہ پارٹی میں کسی کرپٹ، جعلی ڈگری اور جرائم والوں کو نہیں لیا جائے گا، لیکن آج وہ کہہ رہے ہیں کہ پارٹی میں غیر مشروط آیا جاسکتا ہے لیکن ٹکٹ صرف صاف ستھرے لوگوں کو ملیں گے،

کیا عمران خان بتاسکتے ہیں کہ جب پارٹی میں ہر قسم کے لوگ آجائیں گے توں ٹکٹ کس طرح تقسیم کریں گے ؟

عمران خان اپنی سیاست میں کب تک منافقت کا سہارا لیں گے ؟



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Javed Iqbal

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After release of Afaq Ahmed, MQM-H will be Imran Khan's new ally in Karachi, and may be in next election Karachi's scenario will be change.



Javed Iqbal
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Hussain Naqi

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Dec 17, 2011, 9:18:06 AM12/17/11
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our civilian faces in authority were selected since very early years after partition by the bureucratic elite. initially it was the civilian and military elite combine that got replaced exclusively by the army elite.bhutto, bibi,nawaz,baba and for several years now it is boosting imran for 2013 polls ,if the top brass fails in the present ploy to oust ppp leadership.
husain naqi
 

Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:51:34 +0500

Javed Iqbal

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تحریک انصاف کا انقلاب ۔۔۔۔۔

جہانگیر ترین، جمال لغاری، اویس لغاری، غلام سرور، سکندر بوسن، غلام سرور خان اور اسحاق خاکوانی کی تحریک انصاف میں شمولیت سے عمران خان کا انقلاب عیاں ہوگیا ہے۔

عمران خان نے جس سونامی کا نعرہ لگایا ہے اور جس طرح کے سیاستدانوں کو اپنی جماعت میں لے رہے ہیں اس سے واقعی سونامی ہی آئے گا (نعوذباللہ)، ایسا سونامی جو اپنے ساتھ صرف تباہی لاتا ہے، ابھی تو عوام یہ خوشخبری بھی سنیں گے کہ عمران خان نے پرویز مشرف سے بھی اتحاد کرلیا ہے ، عمران خان کچھہ عرصہ پہلے تک امریکہ کی جنگ میں شمولیت پر پرویز مشرف کا نام لے کر شدید تنقید کیا کرتے تھے، لیکن اب ان کی توپیں خاموش ہوگئی ہیں اور پرویز مشرف بھی مسلسل عمران خان سے اتحاد کے حامی لگ رہے ہیں۔

ابھی تک جن سیاستدانوں نے بھی عمران خان کو جوائن کیا ہے وہ سب جاگیردار اور وڈیرے ہی ہیں، اس طرح کون سا انقلاب آتا ہے ؟ عمران خان کے پاس اس سوال کا کوئی بھی جواب نہیں ہے۔


جس طرح کے لوگ تحریک انصاف میں شامل ہورہے ہیں اس سی لگ رہا ہے کہ آئندہ سیٹ اپ کا نقشہ تیار کیا جاچکا ہے اور ایک مرتبہ پھر الیکشن سے پہلے نئی مسلم لیگ ق تیار کی جارہی ہے اور ہوسکتا ہے کہ آئندہ سیٹ اپ میں پرویز مشرف اور عمران خان مل کر انقلاب لائیں۔



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Javed Iqbal

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The formation of New PML-Q is continue and Khursheed Mehmood Kasuri after all come in PTI camp.

Imran Khan is against War against Terror, since war start and no doubt his stand is clearly against Drone Attack, but Kasuri was Foreign Minister in Musharraf Regime and he was defender of Musharraf's decision on War and he want relations with ISRAEL.

Now how Imran Khan will speak against war or how Kasuri will speak against war on Terror ?????

Those leaders joining PTI, they were with Musharraf and didn't give change as Musharraf said, now how they will change Pakistan with Imran Khan ?????

How revolution come with old old old faces ????


Javed Iqbal
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Zohaib Ali

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عمران خان نے جن سے انقلاب کا نعرہ لگیا ہے اس وقت سے کہہ رہے تھے کہ پارٹی میں کسی کرپٹ، جعلی ڈگری اور جرائم والوں کو نہیں لیا جائے گا، لیکن آج وہ کہہ رہے ہیں کہ پارٹی میں غیر مشروط آیا جاسکتا ہے لیکن ٹکٹ صرف صاف ستھرے لوگوں کو ملیں گے،

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As a Bunch of Q-Leaguers ( Musharraf's Ministers) join Imran Khan - A Question is being asked...does it not seem as if it is actually Imran Khan who has has joined the Q-League - ? Shahzad Manchester
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It is a serious question no doubt. Many people feel that the same mistake may be in the making when Mr. Bhutto replaced his first cabinet composed of party founders and intellectuals with landlords and old players who deserted him on first available opportunity and the top cadre leaders who were previously with him were also having illusions about the party

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Imran khan have no power to change old faces, but he is working on others agenda to decrease the popularity of Pmln, don't know how long he can survive, but one thing is very clear he is fighting for others interests................................................
Raja Faryad Khan
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As a Bunch of Q-Leaguers ( Musharraf's Ministers) join Imran Khan - A Question is being asked...does it not seem as if it is actually Imran Khan who has has joined the Q-League - ? Shahzad Manchester
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Subject: Re: How Imran Khan will change Pakistan with Old Faces ????

If not Imran then who? Monis Elahi, Hamza Shrif, Marriam Shrif, Bilawal Zardari , Mosa Gilani or others nephews of jageedar or industrialists. Pl don't destroy the "HOPE". 



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 Very good omen , the best shot ever played by Imran, it will form a combination of young & seniors.  Whats a problem. calling  uncalled for aspersions is very much unlike Muslims. Imran khan today is a true Leader and role model of our youth. Gentleman relax and enjoy.
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Why was Tehrik e Insaf was represented in the unholy alliance of Jamat uddwah,lashkar e jhangvi Ijaz ul Haque,sipah e sahaba and Gen. Hameed Gul etc?what is in common I wonder what kind of change Imran stands for?
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عمران خان عوام سے جھوٹ بولتا ہے، خان صاحب کا یہ کہنا ہے کہ انہیں فرشتےنہیں مل سکتے، پر شرم آنی چاہیے۔ قائد اعظم کے اصولوں کی بات کرنے والے کو یہ پتا ہونا چاہیے کہ جناح  نے اپنے کردار اور اپنی اصول پسندی کے نتیجے میں برے صغیر ہند دو ٹکڑوں میں تبدیل ہوگیا اور ایک آزاد ریاست دنیا کے نقشے پر قائم ہوئی،  جبکہ خان صاحب کو انتخاب جیتنے کیلئے لوٹوں کی ضرورت پڑ گئی ہے۔ اب اگر خان صاحب کچھ سیٹیں نکال  بھی لیں تو سب کہیں گے یہ تو جاگیرداروں اور وڈیروں کی سیٹیں ہیں، بذات خود خان صاحب کیا جیتے ہیں کوئی نہیں بتا سکے گا۔ عمران خان کا ووٹ بینک شہروں میں تھا جو اب ضرور متاثر ہوگا۔ کیوں کہ  نوجوان یہ سوچنے پر مجبور ہوگئے ہیں کہ انہیں جھوٹے سبز خواب دکھائے جارہے ہیں۔ 
نادر عباس
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عمران خان عوام سے جھوٹ بولتا ہے، خان صاحب کا یہ کہنا ہے کہ انہیں فرشتےنہیں مل سکتے، پر شرم آنی چاہیے۔ قائد اعظم کے اصولوں کی بات کرنے والے کو یہ پتا ہونا چاہیے کہ جناح  نے اپنے کردار اور اپنی اصول پسندی کے نتیجے میں برے صغیر ہند دو ٹکڑوں میں تبدیل ہوگیا اور ایک آزاد ریاست دنیا کے نقشے پر قائم ہوئی،  جبکہ خان صاحب کو انتخاب جیتنے کیلئے لوٹوں کی ضرورت پڑ گئی ہے۔ اب اگر خان صاحب کچھ سیٹیں نکال  بھی لیں تو سب کہیں گے یہ تو جاگیرداروں اور وڈیروں کی سیٹیں ہیں، بذات خود خان صاحب کیا جیتے ہیں کوئی نہیں بتا سکے گا۔ عمران خان کا ووٹ بینک شہروں میں تھا جو اب ضرور متاثر ہوگا۔ کیوں کہ  نوجوان یہ سوچنے پر مجبور ہوگئے ہیں کہ انہیں جھوٹے سبز خواب دکھائے جارہے ہیں۔
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sahir geo

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Apr 16, 2012, 5:17:14 AM4/16/12
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Time has proven it was not joke but truth.

Local media reported that Veena Malik had joined the PTI along with her father and other relatives. 

Now lets hope to enjoy Veena malik's live performance in the upcoming PTI gathering and rallies :P

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:16 PM, sahir geo <sahi...@journalist.com> wrote:
بریکنگ نیوز: عمران خان نے وینا ملک کو تحریکِ انصاف میں شامِل ہونے کی دعوت دے دی ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ کیونکہ وینا ملک نے اپنے تمام اثاثے ظاہر کر دیے ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

Imran Khan has invited Veena Malik to join PTI.... because she has shown her all assets :p

Please take it as political humor. No offense, please!


On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Javed Iqbal <javai...@gmail.com> wrote:
When Imran Khan will give solid answer of Chaudhry Nisar's Press Conference ?
Can Imran Khan tell, how he is running his party since 15 years, Specially since last 1 year (i.e after meeting with General Pasha) ?
How PTI manage too much expenses on their Rallies and Jalsa in last few months ?

After Successful Jalsa in Lahore, Imran Khan looking in Pheron's attitude, he should know This is not Cricket Team, this is politics and This kind of attitude in Politics can Damage him.



Javed Iqbal
Karachi


On 3 December 2011 02:08, Waqar Saeed Sheikh <vik...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Javed Sb,
 
Na Imran Khan nay kabhi kaha hay kay wooo ANGEL hay or na hi hum loog joo ussay support ker rahay hain woo ussay ANGEL samaghtay hain or kuch ho na hoo yeah crystal clear hay kay woo crpt nahin hay in ki tarhan jinhoon nay barriyan laggaio huwi hain or aap jaissay logoon ko apna zahni or jismani her tarhan ka ghulam banaya huwa hay. Or jahan tak rahi youngsters ko hope ki baat too challain koi HOPE dilla too raha hay kissi cheez ki, or rahi old faces ki baat too agar koi insaan sidhay rastay par chalna chahta hay too aap nay agar khud sidha rasta ikhtiar nahin kerna too ussay too chalnay dain aap ki too wohi baat hoo gye kay aik banda NAMAZ nahin partha thaa us nay NAMAZ parhani start ki too log kehnay lagay yeah too pahlay namaz nahin parhta thaa too jnab koi agar sahi kam kerna chahta hay too ussay kernay dain chahay pooranma hoo yaan naiya kernay too sidha kam hi lagga hay naa. 

or main IMRAN KHAN ki iss baat say 110% ittfaq kerta hoon kay agar LIONS ka LEADER DOG ho ga too LIONS bhi DOGS ki tarhan kay kam karrain gay or agar DOGS ka LEADER LION hoo too DOGS bhi LIONS ki tarhan kay kam kerrain gay. AZMISH SHART HAY AAP LOGOON KO GUMRAH KERNA CHOORAIN OR HUM JAISSI KUTTI AWAM PAR IMRAN KHAN LION KO AANAY DAIN YAHI KUTTI AWAM NA LIONS KI TARHAN HOO JAI TOO PHIR BAAT KERNA.
 
Hum logoon ka assal masla yeah hay kay hum sub kay sub crpt hain or issi liyah jo log nahin chahtay kay yahan crptn khattam hoo woo log nahin chahtay kay IMRAN KHAN jaissay log un kay upper hukmran aain kiyun kay phir sub koo theek honna parray gaa jo hum log honna nahin chahtay.
 
Agar purranay faces say kuch na honna hotta too hamarray pairay nabi MUHAMMAD SAW HAZRAT OMER ko kabhi na kehtay kay woo islam kabool ker lain yaan martay dum tak abujahal ko islam main dakhil hinay ki dawat na daittay rahtay sidhay rastay par aanay kay liyyah kissi  age yaan new and old honnay ka taluq nahin hay.
 
So logoon ko gumrah kerna choorain or aap bhi sidhay rastay par aanay ki kooshish karrain.
 
WAQAR SAEED
RAWALPINDI

 


 

Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:23:01 +0500

Subject: Re: How Imran Khan will change Pakistan with Old Faces ????
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Abdul Jami Sahib......

Imran Khan presenting himself as a Angel and crystal clear man, he also give too much hope to youngsters for change and revolution, So Do you think change can possible with old faces ? All rejected politicians from PML-Q joining PTI. So how he will change ?

After Lahore Jalsa, he is fully with arrogance and too much self sufficiency in his behavior, Imran Khan should know men are joining his party they can leave him any time on any big opportunity, because they all are opportunist.

Actually, Imran Khan knows he playing with Old Players, and revolution come only with New and Energetic Men, So he is running only for Power.


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Javed Iqbal
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On 1 December 2011 20:37, Malik Abdul Rehman Jami <yar...@gmail.com> wrote:
Although I am not a spokesman of Imran Khan but just for knowledge sake I want to ask one question. If Nawaz Shareef is allowed to work with so many land grabbers and looters and Zardari is also having so many culprits then what is the fun in criticizing Imran only. yes if he issues tickets to these culprits then we must stand against him.Regards

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now nobody can stop pti to bring revolution in this country

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Yes people from Geo and agents of corrupt Nawaz Sharif & Co. can develop such stories. 


Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:17:14 +0500

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Apr 16, 2012, 7:37:00 AM4/16/12
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There is no truth in the report that Veena or her father have joined PTI. I dont know why some people keep spreading rumours. Obviously motivated and designed to ridicule IK and PTI

Asher Ghazzaal

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Apr 16, 2012, 8:00:52 AM4/16/12
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Some People didnt want to raise the asset issue so they are undermining its importance by discrediting this argument by joking about it. In reality this is the core issue every corrupt official wants its wealth unaccountable. So in this quest IK will face many foes in all types of office holders. But even IK neglect this issue like other mainstream political parties they have two sets of issues for election they "talk about roti kapra aur makan"  and after elections they find people who can make money in shortest span of time. If like them IK forget his promise this issue will go on in Pakistan politics for ever until our justice system make it impossible to get away with corruption. 

Asher Ghzzaal Shakir

Dr S Anwar Iqbal

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Apr 16, 2012, 8:05:47 AM4/16/12
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If we are trusting on thieves since last several decades then why not Imran Khan now as he not thief at least.   

Dr S. Anwar Iqbal


On 16, اپريل 2012, at 4:37 PM, Shafqat Mahmood <shaf...@gmail.com> wrote:

TI On Apr 16, 2012 3:38 PM, "S.M.K Durrani" wrote: > Yes people from Geo and agents of corrupt Nawaz Sharif & Co. can develop > such stories. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:17:14 +0500 > Subject: Re: How Imran Khan will change Pakistan with Old Faces ???? > From: sahi...@journalist.com > To: pressp...@googlegroups.com > > Time has proven it was not joke but truth. > > Local media reported that Veena Malik had joined the PTI along with her > father and other relatives. > > Now lets hope to enjoy Veena malik's live performance in the upcoming PTI > gathering and rallies :P > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:16 PM, sahir geo wrote: > > بریکنگ نیوز: عمران خان نے وینا ملک کو تحریکِ انصاف میں شامِل ہونے کی دعوت > دے دی ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ کیونکہ وینا ملک نے اپنے تمام اثاثے ظاہر کر دیے ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ > > Imran Khan has invited Veena Malik to join PTI.... because she has shown > her all assets :p > > > Please take it as political humor. No offense, please! > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Javed Iqbal wrote: > > When Imran Khan will give solid answer of Chaudhry Nisar's Press > Conference ? > Can Imran Khan tell, how he is running his party since 15 years, Specially > since last 1 year (i.e after meeting with General Pasha) ? > How PTI manage too much expenses on their Rallies and Jalsa in last few > months ? > > After Successful Jalsa in Lahore, Imran Khan looking in Pheron's attitude, > he should know This is not Cricket Team, this is politics and This kind of > attitude in Politics can Damage him. > > > > Javed Iqbal > Karachi > > > On 3 December 2011 02:08, Waqar Saeed Sheikh wrote: > > > Javed Sb, > > Na Imran Khan nay kabhi kaha hay kay wooo ANGEL hay or na hi hum loog joo > ussay support ker rahay hain woo ussay ANGEL samaghtay hain or kuch ho na > hoo yeah crystal clear hay kay woo crpt nahin hay in ki tarhan jinhoon nay > barriyan laggaio huwi hain or aap jaissay logoon ko apna zahni or jismani > her tarhan ka ghulam banaya huwa hay. Or jahan tak rahi youngsters ko hope > ki baat too challain koi HOPE dilla too raha hay kissi cheez ki, or rahi > old faces ki baat too agar koi insaan sidhay rastay par chalna chahta hay > too aap nay agar khud sidha rasta ikhtiar nahin kerna too ussay too chalnay > dain aap ki too wohi baat hoo gye kay aik banda NAMAZ nahin partha thaa us > nay NAMAZ parhani start ki too log kehnay lagay yeah too pahlay namaz nahin > parhta thaa too jnab koi agar sahi kam kerna chahta hay too ussay kernay > dain chahay pooranma hoo yaan naiya kernay too sidha kam hi lagga hay naa. > > or main IMRAN KHAN ki iss baat say 110% ittfaq kerta hoon kay agar LIONS > ka LEADER DOG ho ga too LIONS bhi DOGS ki tarhan kay kam karrain gay or > agar DOGS ka LEADER LION hoo too DOGS bhi LIONS ki tarhan kay kam kerrain > gay. AZMISH SHART HAY AAP LOGOON KO GUMRAH KERNA CHOORAIN OR HUM JAISSI > KUTTI AWAM PAR IMRAN KHAN LION KO AANAY DAIN YAHI KUTTI AWAM NA LIONS KI > TARHAN HOO JAI TOO PHIR BAAT KERNA. > > Hum logoon ka assal masla yeah hay kay hum sub kay sub crpt hain or issi > liyah jo log nahin chahtay kay yahan crptn khattam hoo woo log nahin > chahtay kay IMRAN KHAN jaissay log un kay upper hukmran aain kiyun kay phir > sub koo theek honna parray gaa jo hum log honna nahin chahtay. > > Agar purranay faces say kuch na honna hotta too hamarray pairay nabi > MUHAMMAD SAW HAZRAT OMER ko kabhi na kehtay kay woo islam kabool ker lain > yaan martay dum tak abujahal ko islam main dakhil hinay ki dawat na daittay > rahtay sidhay rastay par aanay kay liyyah kissi age yaan new and old > honnay ka taluq nahin hay. > > So logoon ko gumrah kerna choorain or aap bhi sidhay rastay par aanay ki > kooshish karrain. > > WAQAR SAEED > RAWALPINDI > > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:23:01 +0500 > > Subject: Re: How Imran Khan will change Pakistan with Old Faces ???? > From: javai...@gmail.com > To: pressp...@googlegroups.com > > > Abdul Jami Sahib...... > > Imran Khan presenting himself as a Angel and crystal clear man, he also > give too much hope to youngsters for change and revolution, So Do you think > change can possible with old faces ? All rejected politicians from PML-Q > joining PTI. So how he will change ? > > After Lahore Jalsa, he is fully with arrogance and too much self > sufficiency in his behavior, Imran Khan should know men are joining his > party they can leave him any time on any big opportunity, because they all > are opportunist. > > Actually, Imran Khan knows he playing with Old Players, and revolution > come only with New and Energetic Men, So he is running only for Power. > > > --- > > Javed Iqbal > Karachi > > > > On 1 December 2011 20:37, Malik Abdul Rehman Jami wrote: > > Although I am not a spokesman of Imran Khan but just for knowledge sake I > want to ask one question. If Nawaz Shareef is allowed to work with so many > land grabbers and looters and Zardari is also having so many culprits then > what is the fun in criticizing Imran only. yes if he issues tickets to > these culprits then we must stand against him.Regards > > > On 8 November 2011 16:32, Javed Iqbal wrote: > > Assalam-o-Alaikum to All..... > > PTI Chief Imran Khan continuously saying for Change in Pakistan, and > he did very successful Campaign at Minar Pakistan. but Imran Khan > alliance with Jehanir Tareen and his company, every one know These are > Establishment's players. Now very soon Aijaz-ul-Haq and Humayun Akhter > also go forward for alliance with Imran Khan, Mian Azhar already on > Imran Khan's Ship. > > May be Establishment completely using to Imran Khan, and that's why > Media supporting him and he is against only Nawaz Sharif, he also > against Asif Ali Zardari but not like he is against Nawaz Sharif. > > I Think, Youngster running again behind New Face but not doing > exercise for Change....... > > May be in future PTI will be new MQM in Punjab. > > LETS SEE WHAT IMRAN KHAN WILL DO FOR CHANGE. > > > > Javed Iqbal > Karachi > > -- > PressPakistan is an interactive forum with over 14,500 journalist members > belonging to print, electronic and online media. > > Press Card, Press Club and Press Pakistan - connecting the journalist > community > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Please write your email to: PressP...@googlegroups.com > To contact moderators and management: PressP...@gmail.com > To unsubscribe your email: PressPakista...@googlegroups.com > To find other options, please visit: > http://groups.google.com/group/PressPakistan > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > > > -- > Press Card, Press Club and Press Pakistan - connecting the journalist > community > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Please write your email to: PressP...@googlegroups.com > To contact moderators and management: PressP...@gmail.com > To unsubscribe your email: PressPakista...@googlegroups.com > To find other options, please visit: > http://groups.google.com/group/PressPakistan > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > > > -- > Press Card, Press Club and Press Pakistan - connecting the journalist > community > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Please write your email to: PressP...@googlegroups.com > To contact moderators and management: PressP...@gmail.com > To unsubscribe your email: PressPakista...@googlegroups.com > To find other options, please visit: > http://groups.google.com/group/PressPakistan > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > > > -- > Press Card, Press Club and Press Pakistan - connecting the journalist > community > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Please write your email to: PressP...@googlegroups.com > To contact moderators and management: PressP...@gmail.com > To unsubscribe your email: PressPakista...@googlegroups.com > To find other options, please visit: > http://groups.google.com/group/PressPakistan > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > > > > > -- > Weekly Press Pakistan - Canada --> http://weeklypresspakistan.com > Follow Press Pakistan on Twitter --> http://twitter.com/PressPakistan > Like Press Pakistan on Facebook --> http://www.facebook.com/PressPakistan > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Please write your email to: PressP...@googlegroups.com > To contact moderators and management: PressP...@gmail.com > To unsubscribe your email: PressPakista...@googlegroups.com > To find other options, please visit: > http://groups.google.com/group/PressPakistan > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > -- > Weekly Press Pakistan - Canada --> http://weeklypresspakistan.com > Follow Press Pakistan on Twitter --> http://twitter.com/PressPakistan > Like Press Pakistan on Facebook --> http://www.facebook.com/PressPakistan > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Please write your email to: PressP...@googlegroups.com > To contact moderators and management: PressP...@gmail.com > To unsubscribe your email: PressPakista...@googlegroups.com > To find other options, please visit: > http://groups.google.com/group/PressPakistan > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > -- Weekly Press Pakistan - Canada --> http://weeklypresspakistan.com Follow Press Pakistan on Twitter --> http://twitter.com/PressPakistan Like Press Pakistan on Facebook --> http://www.facebook.com/PressPakistan ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Please write your email to: PressP...@googlegroups.com To contact moderators and management: PressP...@gmail.com To unsubscribe your email: PressPakista...@googlegroups.com To find other options, please visit: http://groups.google.com/group/PressPakistan ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* --0016e6d7e94ba38a4004bdca3d6f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Dear Shafqat Shahib,
Thanks for your quick response and clarification. However, we got to understand that all corrupt  forces , especially Nawaz & Tola are using all their looted wealth to defame Imran Khan & his party  through purchasable commodity abundantly available in all walks of our life including Media. The agents of those who have looted this country ruthlessly are once again gathered together. Inshalla their days are now numbered and these Vultures shall be taken to task very soon. 
Durrani   


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