Pakistan army cancels US talks over security checks
sahir geo
Security at US airports has been especially stringent since the 2001 al Qaeda attacks on New York and Washington, with scores of passengers complaining they had been singled out for checks due to their "Middle Eastern" or "Muslim" appearance.
The Pakistan delegation was visiting the United States at the invitation of the US military's Central Command (CENTCOM), which oversees the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
"The delegation...was subjected to unwarranted security checks at Washington airport by the US Transport Security Agency," the army said in a statement.
The delegation was later cleared and US defence officials expressed regret over the incident. The statement did not give the date of the visit. "However, as a result of these checks, military authorities in Pakistan decided to cancel the visit and called the delegation back," the army said.
In March, a Pakistani parliamentary delegation called off a two-week US trip, sponsored by the State Department, after law-makers were tagged for further screening at Washington's airport as they were en route to New Orleans.
Washington sees Pakistan as a vital ally in the fight against militancy and wants it to crack down on Afghan Taliban militants who cross the border to attack US-led NATO troops in Afghanistan.
Mistrust between the two countries involves a range of issues, from security cooperation to how aid is delivered. Anti-American sentiment runs high in Pakistan.
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The reports say that the Officer tired of long journey said "i hope this is my last flight" Now if the uneducated employees of the airline can not differentiate between figurative speech and literal meaning then they need to be sent to primary level schooling for that.
Till then i would request you to read the reports.
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Strange you know all these details, still insist on that pack of lies the delegation is trying to impose upon us? They had boarded the plane, not undergoing any security procedure.
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TEJINDER SINGH
U.S. Defense Department Did Not Apologize To Pakistani Delegation
The United States Department of Defense did not apologize to the Pakistani officials over the incident at Dulles International Airport, a Pentagon official told journalists on Wednesday.
A nine-member team of high-ranking Pakistani military brass was pulled off a plane, readying for a flight to Tampa from Washington, after one of them made a comment to a flight attendant and that triggered a security alert leading to the detention of the team.“A group of 9 passengers were removed from the aircraft during the boarding process after one of them made a comment to a member of the crew,” the United Airlines media spokeswoman Megan McCarthy.
Earlier on Wednesday, Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan called the episode "an unfortunate incident," but denied that any official apology was offered as reported in some media outlets, adding that there was no official involvement of the Pentagon in the incident.
McCarthy, the spokeswoman of the United Airlines expressed an apology saying, “We recognize this was an inconvenience for our passengers and we apologize.”
Lapan told journalists that it is up to the airlines “to handle their security,” as they deem it fit.
He, however, added that the department of defense was made aware of the incident “the day it happened.”
The Pakistanis, afterwards, instead of proceeding to Tampa, decided to return to Pakistan and waited for hours in Washington, for the next available flight home.
“After meeting with the group in the gate room, we elected to re-accommodate them on the next available flight,” noted McCarthy but did not add if the team took that offer or not.
Media reports cited anonymous Pakistani officials as alleging that the army officials were interrogated and rudely treated by security officials at Dulles International Airport but the officials at the airport could not confirm these allegations.
Read more: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7019767572?U.S.%20Defense%20%20Department%20Did%20Not%20Apologize%20To%20Pakistani%20Delegation#ixzz0yJKQgrIW
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They have mind set of privileged that they can say and do any thing and no one will ask.
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U.S. Defense Department Did Not Apologize To Pakistani Delegation
The United States Department of Defense did not apologize to the Pakistani officials over the incident at Dulles International Airport, a Pentagon official told journalists on Wednesday.
“A group of 9 passengers were removed from the aircraft during the boarding process after one of them made a comment to a member of the crew,” the United Airlines media spokeswoman Megan McCarthy.
Earlier on Wednesday, Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan called the episode "an unfortunate incident," but denied that any official apology was offered as reported in some media outlets, adding that there was no official involvement of the Pentagon in the incident.
McCarthy, the spokeswoman of the United Airlines expressed an apology saying, “We recognize this was an inconvenience for our passengers and we apologize.”
Lapan told journalists that it is up to the airlines “to handle their security,” as they deem it fit.
He, however, added that the department of defense was made aware of the incident “the day it happened.”
The Pakistanis, afterwards, instead of proceeding to Tampa, decided to return to Pakistan and waited for hours in Washington, for the next available flight home.
“After meeting with the group in the gate room, we elected to re-accommodate them on the next available flight,” noted McCarthy but did not add if the team took that offer or not.
Media reports cited anonymous Pakistani officials as alleging that the army officials were interrogated and rudely treated by security officials at Dulles International Airport but the officials at the airport could not confirm these allegations.
Read more: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7019767572?U.S.%20Defense%20%20Department%20Did%20Not%20Apologize%20To%20Pakistani%20Delegation#ixzz0yJKQgrIW
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While they didn't apologize it is they who suffered from the cancellation of this trip not Pakistan.
Pakistan didn't need US CENTCOM meeting as much as US CENTCOM needed a meeting with PAkistan military given the dire situation they are in in Afghanistan.
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While they didn't apologize it is they who suffered from the cancellation of this trip not Pakistan.
Pakistan didn't need US CENTCOM meeting as much as US CENTCOM needed a meeting with PAkistan military given the dire situation they are in in Afghanistan.
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U.S. Defense Department Did Not Apologize To Pakistani Delegation
The United States Department of Defense did not apologize to the Pakistani officials over the incident at Dulles International Airport, a Pentagon official told journalists on Wednesday.
<http://www.allheadlinenews.com/images/cp.gif> A nine-member team of high-ranking Pakistani military brass was pulled off a plane, readying for a flight to Tampa from Washington, after one of them made a comment to a flight attendant and that triggered a security alert leading to the detention of the team.
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Just to remind, in any instance, not everybody has to be eyewitness to make an opinion in today's world.
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Secondly, if army is so touchy about the ghairat of the country, why they put half of the country to floods danger in order to save tgeir (read American) bases? Why don't they just Stop getting fed on American money?
Moeed Pirzada sahib, it is easier to become a witness for the king. Have a bit more spine to ask difficult questions. Thanks.
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Yes 9/11 was horrible but almost 10 years have passed and the world as a whole has suffered incalculable losses - much more than America- and made huge sacrifices to stand with the Americans. It is high time that US reflects on its post-9/11 attitudes, the attitudes of its Airline Staff and learn to apologise for their paranoia and learn to safe guard citizens of other countries from the "American State of Mind" - they will only start to do it once they realise that there is an "Unfortunate Frenzied American State of Mind" that is based on a very narrow definition of self-interest and that is threatening to everyone else in the world. Afterall if a similar thing, as unreasonable or even less than what happened at the US Airport, would have happened at a Pakistani Facility to say US diplomats or Officers the US govt & media would have made a much much bigger issue out of it. This patent inequality in the way American mindset treats itself and the rest of the world is at the heart of the problem.
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Of course, by the Grace of Allah Pak Army is capable of doing both. For
Flood: Rescue and Relief only, not the rehabilitation or reconstruction in
which Pak Army can also assist tremendously if the government asks.
TTP and other: Yes, Pak Army can do it but on its own terms. Not following
the strategy and attics adopted by the US and NATO forces. They do not have
the clue of what they are doing or what should be done. Pak Army proved its
mettle in Swat, Buner, Bajau, Dir etc, and did it in just a matter of three
months. Now it is engaged in North Waziristan having more or less
accomplished the task in South Waziristan. If you know the area which is
one of the most difficult terrains in the world, only then you would be in a
position to appreciate Pak Army's achievements. The mighty British fought
for almost a century in this area without subduing the Pathans. The
Russians lost their Union fighting the same people in Afghanistan. The US
will also meet its Waterloo sooner than most think. But Pakistan Army will
return victorious and in full control of the area.
Any questions?
Col. Riaz Jafri (Retd)
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| Our politician should have raised the issue much earlier. I agree with with, at least some one took the initiative. sabir --- On Wed, 9/1/10, Javed Afridi <javeda...@gmail.com> wrote: |
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I dont want to justify the event nor i know that what happened on the scene, the only thing i want to share is that i have been to U.s some thirteen times in my life so far, it inlcudes before nine leven and after nine elven, security checks and security hazards are part of a journey and travelling you cannot avoid the pain ful thing is the discrimination, you go to Japan, Germany , italy Dubai you find same security checks for every one but in U.s the discrimination through passport and name was there, i think only this is what has created a negative perception in which soem genuine events also get painted , but one accept he discrimiantion
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I still believe that American hosts could do better to handle the situation or at least issue an official apology by CentCom for mishandling, only united airline apology for inconvenience is not enough.
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However a mental spine and two functioning cerebral hemispheres are needed to see through the muddle of all this to understand that it was a confusion created by hyper-paranoid American Airline staff who 10 years after 9/11 are still fixated upon a single event however tragic it might have been.
And regarding the witness to King, Ms Marvi Sahiba it needs more moral courage to stick your neck out to defend someone who can be easily branded as evil, and who is certainly an "under-dog" in the global fight for impressions and favours, King today is not Pakistani military even inside Pakistan, it is the American Capitalism and its hyper-power with whom you so assiduously trying to identify with. Unfortunately other civilisations and cultures have never respected "Ahmed Chalabis" who bend their backs to please their global masters - Good luck! for more comical write ups!
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I agree with Mr. Quraishi.
With the help of Allah (swt), the people of Pakistan and the Pakistan Army are capable of handling both the flood situation as well as the TTP without US/NATO help.
Let's address the issue of flood first. We have seen a lot of commitments and pledges from US and European countries but we as Pakistanis know that only a tiny percentage of their commitments and pledges will be able to materialize. We have been there and we have seen that during the massive earthquake situation we faced few years ago. Ultimately it was the people of Pakistan who, with the help of Allah (swt), were able to help their fellow citizens during that difficult time. We are seeing the replay of the same episode now in flood situation. If US/NATO were serious in helping they should have helped by now. People affected by flood need help NOW. Commitments and pledges carry little value for them.
On the issue of TTP, let's not forget that it was US and India who initially supported the TTP in order to pressurize Pakistani political and military leadership. But now when TTP came back to haunt US/NATO, they have put put this organization on their terrorist list. If US/NATO have a capability to help Pakistan army control the Talibans, they would have used that capability to control Talibans in Afghanistan.
In my opinion, the top most priority for US and European countries at this point should be to make a strategy and a plan to prevent the impending defeat in Afghanistan; to support their ailing economics and impending currency crash and to think about the payment of the huge foreign loans that has been financing their mounting budget deficit for the last many years. We do not want to see the situation of Greece being repeated in Ireland, Spain, Portugal & Italy and ultimately in USA.
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aftab raza khan
the gesture shown by PAK ARMY ON US AIRPORT,really a nice show,happy return to motherland,us must learn a lesson by this act of PAK ARMY,
LONG LIVE PAKISTAN
LONG LIVE PAK ARMY
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Mansoor Binasrar
Why we needed to go to USA for visits. Was that inspirational visit, so that our future carreers officers, see how much She is advanced and how much they have the sophatication. Was this a techonology transfer negotiation visit or an educational visit.
To me this incident in USA is continuation of series of insulted events, started from allegations against our countries institutions . Paksitan was certainly not created to provide sanctury to land lords or Mafias, but to provide a place for people who were deprvied of there basic fundamental rights, which our constitution gurantees as well.
If Paksitan was really created for this purpose then why we are unable to provide education, jobs to our people? Why we cant build up an educational system, which if not better then the west at least could be equal to there's. Is our educaitonal system lower then the Greece, Italy, Poland, etc, If it is not than why we have to take Toefl or Ielts to get jobs or admissions in UK EU etc and they dont need to pass these tests.
Why our youngster after getting gold medals in our instituion fly to these countries? Why our goverments not able to provide them better oppotunities in our own countries? or are our countries nurseries for the west, that we are educating or training our youngones for them. One of my friend , once said that if someone misbehaves with you, or show disrespct dont become disheart, infact there is something in you which is making him inferior.
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M Akram
Making unpleasant remarks and portraying it as heroism only Pak army can do it. What else u can expect who never understood the difference bw martial law and democracy in 63 years.
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slam every body,
the gesture shown by PAK ARMY ON US AIRPORT,really a nice show,happy return to motherland,us must learn a lesson by this act of PAK ARMY,
LONG LIVE PAKISTAN
LONG LIVE PAK ARMY
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Try to go to Sadi Arabia and see how they treat at airport
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That is true. Not many people knew there was military delegation in the US. But it is a routine. Pakistan and USA armies, GHQ and Pentagon, are hand in glove now. Regardless of this kind of irritants the cooperation between two armies continues.
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Muqaddas Shahzad
make acountable to ourselves, we cant bear criticism, this is really
unfortunate. if someone tries to show us a mirror we start crying it conspiracy.
Very good jnab! you are very good to suspect on Dr. moeed sahib.
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Our top leadership is eager to meet even low level American visitors.To our foreign dignitary whom they meet, the stretch their begging bowl for help.
Of course, the Americans are as much responsible as our rulers for the current horrific state of affairs.
Our military rulers stoop too low to kow tow to Americans because they lack legitimacy. Ziaul Haq was a pariah till 1979 and received only one foreign visitor, the president of Djibouti. Then the Soviet Union caqme to his rescue by invading Afghanistan.Instantly he became West's darling. Carter offered him 200 million dollars and our 'patriotic generals', according to Agha Shahi, were dying to accept this but Shah said if at all we to sell our sols, let us get a proper price. (It was Dawn's M.A. Mansoori who termed it as peanuts). When Reagan was elected Zia sent Ghulam Ishaq, Gen. Arif and Agha Shahi to bargain the price for our services. Arif, according CIA director William Cassey made two demands: No censure of our government system and disbursement of aid through iSI. Agha Shahi said Pakistan will not accept concessional military aid through FMS programme because that is meant for US allies while Pakistan is non-aligned country.W
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