RAPE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN MEDIA

[Haris Khan]

Dear Mohammad Amir Khakwani sahib,

 

I read your column today in Daily Express in which you very rightly condemned the rape of common sense in the name of professionalism by some TV anchors.I think you must mention the names of those who have become a threat for the credebility of media.Few days ago one of my teachers in university called me and asked for the contact number of Sana Bucha who was doing a show in Muzaffargarh.She was sitting in the boat of rescue 1122 and raising question that "where is government".She was not aware that rescue 1122 is part of the government.

 

Next day we saw her just walking here and there in Kot Mithan Sharif with tears in her eyes.Just showing her own tears was not her job but she was doing that just to attract viewership.Another day she was talking to the mother of two  brothers killed by an angry mob in Sialkot.Sana Bucha behaved like an ugly and selfish human being who was asking the little sister of two brothers that "where is your bhai?" "Do you want to say anything to your bhai".

Then she started trying to exploit the pain of the mother who angrily said that she would like to see the death of the killers of her sons in the manner her own sons were killed.Mother said that she don't want killers to be produced in the court.What was that?Sana Bucha was actually promoting lawlessness.Then she asked from the uncle of two brothers who gave last bath to the deadbodies that "what was the condition of the deadbodies?".I realized that she even does not know the basics of reporting but she she was behaving like Jhansi Ki Raani.

 

Is this the journalism or cheap sensationalism?Sana Bucha is a great champion of liberalism but she covered her head with scarf outside studio when she was moving in Sialkot and South Punjab but she was looking like a model girl when she was doing show from her Lahore Studio.What is this?Why this double standard?Will you please educate me that how these kind of girls get job in channels like Geo?These woman like Sana Bucha and Jasmine Manzoor only make loud noises and try to exploit the human miseries just for cheap popularity.There is no check on them.

 

Anchors like Dr.Shahid Masood are not answerable to anyone that why their predictions about the downfall of government have not come true yet?Will any journalist body ask from Sana Bucha and Shahid Masood that where is professionalism and why they are raping this noble profession just for gaining cheap popularity?

 

I hope you will raise this issue in your next column?

 

Regards,

 

Haris Khan

[Abdul Ghani Kakar]

Very True Haris khan Agree with you --- On Wed, 8/25/10, Haris Khan <ajaa...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Irfan Ashraf]

Dear Haris you raised some good points about electronic media in
Pakistan. But I wish we could be able one day to make people
accountable for what they are doing. With my personal experience, I
have seen channel bosses promoting such people, which you mentioned in
your email, because both don't know about journalism nor they want to
know.
Keep it up!

Syed Irfan Ashraf

[Nasim]

The media, at least at Funya News we welcome viewers feedback. We genuinely want to be the ears and eyes for the public-reporting honestly to our viewers the facts of all situations that affect the lives of Pakistanis and the country Pakistan.

Best Regards
Nasim Zehra
Dunya TV
NZ

[IQBAL KHATTAK]

The TV news channels and journalists are doing great. However, public criticism of our reporting should be given space and air time to allow accountability in Pak media. The more we accept public accountability the more professionalism will grow.


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[Nasim]

The media generally, at least at Dunya News we welcome viewers feedback.

We genuinely want to be the ears and eyes for the public-reporting honestly to our viewers the facts of all situations that affect the lives of Pakistanis and the country Pakistan.

Best Regards
Nasim Zehra
Dunya TV

NZ

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[Mukhtar Ahmed Butt]

To gain cheap popularity our so called anchors most of the time shout on elected members and ask most stupid questions that have no relevance with the subject under discussion.Unfortunately one who criticizes the government considers himself to be a great anchor.The fault lies with the participants they must give shut up call if the limits of decency are crossed.Because of their unbecoming conduct people have stopped watching the Pak channels and prefer other channels.There is need to establish code of conduct for the anchors they must draw a line where to stop, otherwise the entire system will suffer.Lastly anchors should stop putting forward their own agenda or their masters desires . I agree with Nasim Zehra for honest reporting as it affects the entire country. Regards Mukhtar Ahmed Butt

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[Haroon Shah]

No one has commented on Mehr Bukhari childish style of coming out from helicopter and jasmine manzoor all praises for pak army. the non journalists anchors are just leaking the boots of establishment and making their space on the corridor of powers.

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[Ilyas Danish]

Awfully, another Great Anchor Mubashir Lucman was asking to federal minister Fridous Aashiq Awan a great question i.e. Aap kal Dera Ismail Khan mein relief activities keliye gaye thein achcha yeah bataein D.I,Khan ki kul abadi kitni hey . kya sawal hey Maza aagaya Hail Anchors
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Subject: RE: RAPE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN MEDIA

[Faysal Aziz Khan]

Dear Friends,

I agree with Haris Khan, here I would like to share a biggest and basic fact of our newly born TV News industry that at one side we've very few professional credible journalists as news anchors/Host and on the other hand we've number of Artists, Doctors, Ex Bureaucrats, Travel agents, Builders, govt journalists and party girls who  become news anchors/hosts and they are basically raping.

As we all know that the whole country is facing the biggest trauma of the history, I think this is the right time to promote true journalist and the true journalism.

These part timers were never belonged to the journalists community and they never welcomed in press clubs and our unions, hopefully they will leave the industry after raping their selves and viewer will put them out as they did in past with few of their partners.


Faysal Aziz Khan

[waris raza]

Here i agree with Haris khan and Faisal aziz,I think this is the time when we will counter the non journalist person in our Electronic and Print media,Why are you missing Non journalist person like,javed choudry,Huma Bukhari,p.j.Mir,Talat Hussain and many more,Mind it this is the time when we discover true journalist in around the print and Electronic Media,Another fact is that the non journalist also backed from different political party or Agencies,they want to destroy true people face of journalism,please unite against so called journalist now, and protect the journalist bodies from ill go ton black sheep of journalism

Waris Raza

Senior journalist

Karachi

cell.032-2509864

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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:17:13 +0500
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[Islam...@expressnews.tv]

Dear Faysal

I agree with you that some anchors are supporting and working for political pundits and you are right that some actors, artist and film makers are become journalists but this is the responsibility of Journalists union to stop the way of these non-professional people and so-called journalists.

Islam

[nadeem mirza]

see the latest interview of Dr moed perzada with PM Gillani ones get impression that it was preplanned friendly interview but they are trying to portray as they are neutral but DR shab had nothing to say against AMERICA as he was sandwich between two pressure groups one putting pressure on him to take aggressive exclusive interview other side putting pressure on him not to say anything against government or American Aid

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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:17:13 +0500
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[qamar ullah]

The debate on professionalism may pay at some distant future but at present it is not the issue. There is no media (Press) and its issues, as the Unions have lost their effectiveness. These were deprived of their attraction, beauty and sharpness to fight for the rights of the journalists and professionalism including press freedom (that is vitally linked to democracy) by its own social forum- the press clubs and now by totally a different clan---TV channels. 

Even the press freedom is no more linked with press freedom but the blackmailing power of the owners of the media houses. This is something to twist the arms of the government to raise the official advertisement rates, get more advertisements, get different perks, land for housing colonies and taken over by the owners, escaping the taxes and duties and getting huge kickbacks from the political players as movers and shakers of the political arena. 

Most of the press clubs have bogus memberships, same is true in the professional bodies of the journalists and trade union at present represent professional leaders and you find same people repeatedly clung to the offices to maintain their offices, they do whatever they can.

The land mafia in journalism is another big scam and reason of the mess we are facing at present. There are people who get the plots in every city several times and in the name of their  employees, the owners have lions shares in the journalists colonies and strangely its all is damn easy to investigate and check but WE LACK POLITICAL WILL TO DO IT. Then complaining about the rape of journalism/professionalism is useless and wastage of time and energy except this exercise is a great catharsis.

Qamarullah 

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[sajid ur Rehman khattak]

  Dear Haris your's points are worthy one and it is very common in our field

 

  due to the unprofessional heads as lacking journalistic ethics,will be also right to say

 

  knows only the ways to get appraised...while those types of reporting needs very true

 

  personalities and not those models..

 

  sajid ur rehman khattak

  intermedia peshawar

 

 

 

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[vakeel rao]

I do agree with Mr Haris Khan.
No one can teach n send those so called paid artists (journalists) out
of the industry. Most of them are paid by govt, i would rather say
that they are hired by govt agencies n political parties etc. they do
not have any feelings for public but to keep their lords happy. these
cheap artists just show the one side of mirror, never want to go for
investigative journalism. shame on those so called cheap, vulgar tv
anchor. They should peep in their own collars before criticizing the
otherssssss. i pray for gud luck for media industry.

Rgds,
Vakeel Rao
News One tv khi.

[shahry...@expressnews.tv]

This is very true that most of our anchors are working with their vested interests, most of them are part of some political parties and that reflects in their programs too. Yes, Dr. Shahid Masood, Dr. Danish, Mehar Bukhari, Fareeiha Idrees and few others are not journalists and thats why they behave like hell, there is no code of conduct for Anchors. They are allowed to do Whatever they want to (unless it harms the interests of the owner).

Can someone ask Dr. Shahid Masood that you talk about Human Rights and other wrongdoing in the society in your Talk Show, but why don't you ask Haji Brothers (Owners of ARY CHANNEL) to pay wages to their workers, which is not paid to them for last three months.

But, just to keep the record straight Javed Ch., Tallat Hussain are senior journalists (though I am not here to defend anyone)

Shahryar Khan
Senior Reporter
Express News
ISLAMABAD

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Here i agree with Haris khan and Faisal aziz,I think this is the time when we will counter the non journalist person in our Electronic and Print media,Why are you missing Non journalist person like,javed choudry,Huma Bukhari,p.j.Mir,Talat Hussain and many more,Mind it this is the time when we discover true journalist in around the print and Electronic Media,Another fact is that the non journalist also backed from different political party or Agencies,they want to destroy true people face of journalism,please unite against so called journalist now, and protect the journalist bodies from ill go ton black sheep of journalismWaris RazaSenior journalistKarachicell.032-2509864

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Dear Friends,

Faysal Aziz Khan

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Nasim Zehra

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know.

Keep it up!

Syed Irfan Ashraf

[Rizwan Razi]

Let me add here one more thing. Since we all are following the developed world blindly, so I would quote their example.
At BBC, CNN, DW (Radio and TV both) only a seasoned journalist, with not less than a decade experience under his belt, can become anchor.
If the media owners and those film producers who have become heads of different channels following the 'lust' of owners,
start observing this basic normthem there would be no need to ask for observing professional norms.
 
Moreover, all the blogs and discussion groups which have been launched, should be ascertain whether they are being run by journalists or some hidden hands to plead their propegenda????
Hope friends would ponder this aspect too.
Cheers

Rizwan Razi

Dawn News

Lahore

 

 
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> Subject: Re: RAPE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN MEDIA

> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:01:17 +0500

[K H U R R A M]

I see media shout or divert the public much towards some irrelevant issues but quiet or afraid to disclose some real culprits in some real & serious matters, I am talking about recent/last target killings of Karachi! many get caught red handed & most journalists know very well to which gang those guys belong, what was/is their motive, why sudden ethnicity triggered & much else but always quiet! why?! afraid?!   http://www.facebook.com/khurram.abdallah       --- On Fri, 8/27/10, shahry...@expressnews.tv <shahry...@expressnews.tv> wrote:

[addie...@gmail.com]

How many years experience is required to acquire the title "Senior" Reporter Mr Shahryar Khan ?
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[Aqil Sajjad]

Is it necessary to have years of background as a journalist to be a good
anchor? I thought what one needsmore is a good understanding of issues, and
the ability to ask relevant questions - traits that are not necessarily
corelated with field experience as a journalist.

If indulgance in sensationalism, bias or asking dumb questions are some of
the criticisms, then experienced journalists are often guilty of these
things too.

[ghulam.m...@expressnews.tv]

Fully agreed with Shahryar....A number of anchors are working with media cells of different parties and getting huge amounts.....Plz dnt include the name of Talaat Hussain with others....Talaat is a true journalist...

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[Yoosuf Bhutta]

There are some basic reasons which produce biased anchors in Pakistan.I think these reasons are as follows:

1-There is no criteria for joining  media.No professional education,IQ or tendency test is required.Thus every non-journalist is running a newspaper or a TV channel.They dont bother to evaluate the capacity, eligibility or professional approach of a person to hire him/her for a current affairs show.Either the owner adopts a film production formula i.e casting a big name for a salable show or hiring a person who could also protect owners interests or number 2 tactitics.In this way mostly personal contacts are preferred over professional career,experience,training or insignt of current issues.

2-Anchor must give an oath to his Allah almighty before starting a show that he is the custodian of the truth to spread it with professional honesty.He should  neither be influenced by the guests nor the interests of the owner.He must learn the art of asking not telling or moulding the facts.

3-The anchor must be shown his recording with the professional critics to assess his mistakes and professional blunders after the airing of the show so that he/she may avoid to repeat them and become more careful in next show.

4-I think that the female anchors are absolutely selected on the merit of their look and the merit is entirely ignored in almost all channels.They sometimes misbehave with the guests or sometimes are dominated by the guests.

5-The anchors should ask the questions while realizing himself equal to the guest if the guest is a big gun.I have noticed that sometimes when an anchor is interviewing governor,CM,Pm or president he becomes nervous with the power of the guest or is trying to chatter the guest .

6-There is no valid and in practice code of ethics either by journalism bodies or by pemra etc.Pemra is often itself misused by the govt and it victimises the media.

7-An independent media association should hold training courses regularly for anchors.It can also hold polls to get viewers,professionals,critics comments about the objectivity of anchors.Thus they can also be rated.On this survey basis awards can also be delivered to the competent professional anchors.

8-A preview committee of a channel should consist of senior unbiased mediapersons whose previous record is unquestionable.  

I have got more suggestions but i conclude due to getting longer.

Thanking You

Muhammad Yoosuf Bhutta

Journalist/Producer/Director

03338436820-03006218938
 

With Regards,

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[Mansoor Binasrar]

yes! it is necessary to have years of experience coupled with talents, which makes an anchor person muture enough to avoid any kind of suspense and ill feelings and gives respect and earn respect too.
mansoor

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[Qasim Rajpar]

A.A This is right time for all profisional journalist they unite against the non profissionals i.e Jasmeen. Mubishir lucman. Dr. Danish, Dr. Shahid Masood. Mehar Bukhari and company. There should be a code of conduct for anchors. Qasim Rajpar Karachi --- On Fri, 8/27/10, ghulam.m...@expressnews.tv <ghulam.m...@expressnews.tv> wrote:

[addie...@gmail.com]

Dear All ,

I would humbly ask of all colleagues to undertake a simple task, whilst expressing themselves through this forum. Indeed the issues raised need to be expressed and highlighted. The question which springs to my mind is why is the fraternity up in arms at this very dark hour. Let us all not forget the herculean task Pakistan faces in the coming days, weeks, months and years. The solidarity of a nation can be gauged by the junk and darn right idiotic responses posted on this forum. Technically exposing the very ethos of being a journalist. Mudslinging, name dropping , maligning the profession is an inherent flaw of those who are indeed not worthy to be in the media , be it print or electronic, in the first place. The very wording of the "subject" of the circulating mail "Rape of Professionalism of Journalism " is indicative of the medieval , barbaric mind set this forum carries. Could the mail subject wording have been less filthy. While all colleagues are free to express personal opinions, it would be handy to ask all those who post their weird and ill informed comments to sign their emails with honest credentials and duration of experience within the industry. That way the fraternity would be better served to judge who deserves space to comment or not.

The yahoos who claim they are best informed to comment, need to do a much needed self assessment and take a reality check.

Kind Regards

Addiel Sabir
LLB London University
PTV Newscaster 2005 to 2007

Dawn News TV News and Current Affairs Presenter 2007 to 2009

Press TV Iran Correspondent and Current Affairs Presenter 2009 to date.

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[hammad raza]

Dear all,

amir Khakwani raised the point which has already raisen by sayyad abbas athar and nazir naji in a folded manner. But Khakwani did well to bring it in debate, Like haris every student of Journalism and every sincere persson in profession is disturb with this non professional attitude of some anchors just for ratin of there programes.Elders of Media should think about a code of conduct for all otherwise these few people would ruin the respect of profession.

Hammad Raza,

Dunya news.

 

[faisal munir]

Dear Fellows

This is a very important discussion.We have to decide the role of our media and media people now.The basic thing is that the people like reporters ,anchors and other people (mostly) were working with newspapers and they were not trained for the TV.When suddenly the climate of media changed in Pakistan in last five to ten years same people were appointed in the Tv Channels without being given the training for the specific ideas of TV.They are not known about the difference in both kind of reporting,the electronic media and print media.They also unaware of the affects created by both medias.

           One of my teachers in practical journalism Mr.Aziz Mohmand have taught me and guided me many years back that "as a reporter you don't have any right to interpret someone else  sayings and statements but you have to just report in the words of that person" and when you are writing a column then you are making up the minds there you can comment on it".There are so many things like this I have learnt from him and I do believe they are the real facts of journalism.

    The anchors of these days are far more than a host.They must be like a facilitator in discussions but in fact they are becoming party i most of the cases which is against their duty,their professionalism and their job.

    The anchor persons in my point of view are not the journalists but analysts may be journalists on the same TV channels.Some anchors like Hamid Mir,kamran Khan etc are the journalists too but they are now just trying to win the race with other anchors and in this race sometimes they are becoming worst.

    We have to set our own Code of Conduct rather Code of  Ethics ,that must be strictly followed and it must be supervised by a committee comprising senior journalists from all TV Channels as its members and it must be independent from the Government.

 

Regards,

Faisal Munir.

Vice President

Tehsil Press Club Dina,Jhelum

03005442420

[nadeem mirza]

There are people who are not professional but they have occupied top posts in media and even  some have no back ground in journalism if to look five year back they are no where in journalism but they reached in TV channel using short cuts and becoz of those non professional Tv anchors other professional journalists are also getting bad name but infact their are only few infamous anchors of tv channels although some are now famous but few infamous still considered themselves an expert economic , political affairs of a country but they very little knowledge  actually its a weakness of our corrupt politicians and weak political system which is exploited by these corrupt tv anchors and they are exploiting them in front of TV screen and trying to get fame
2nd there is no selection criteria or Merritt for new journalist to enter in print or electronic media some as some of these non professional anchors have occupied the places and

 they only prefer their own people or relative  becoz if they go toward Merritt they  are afraid of new professional talent and i am sure new professional talent who is coming toward media is a threat to these tv anchors

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[K. Ashraf]

Media and judicial activism is an important factor which can help Pakistan become a better country. Therefore, the people who are doing activism from media forums should be given the space to continue what they are doing.

 

Regards,

 

K. Ashraf

Editor,

www.pakistanweekly.com

 

 

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Dear Fellows

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[nadeem mirza]

some fake journalist who are now tv anchor considerd themselve a policey maker or think tank of country but infact they are afraid of upcomming highly qualified  talented youth who are better why they don't let any new generation  to grow in media.
Degrees of such kind of fake journalist and anchors should also be checked and i hope nobody will have fake degrees coz their are two kinds of journalists and anchors in tv who have degrees and who have not so its world of haves and haves not
so in order to throw out fake anchor mafia from media  their should be a proper Merritt and qualification level for tv anchor and professional journalist  except honorary journalist from districts

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[Monem Farooqi]

Kindly note that there is a hell of difference between Professionalism and Commercialism; however, both are governed by the principles and value.

 

So what are you looking for?

 

Principles, Profit or Shelter?

 

Regards

Monem Farooqi

 

 

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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:25:57 +0000

[tariq ahmad]

Dear Amir

I was expecting such column from you,in fact the current style of media,news and views distorted and mixed so badly,lacking objectivity,full of cheep subjected, vested emotionalism,just to win the mice race/target of their puppet masters,channels and anchor persons behaving like super markets and drama actors, made me so sick,that i could not write column since long.

Tariq Ahmad

columnist daily Din

UK

[addie...@gmail.com]

Why use the word RAPE ? Does this forum endorse such a filthy title?

How many years experience is needed to become a SENIOR REPORTER??

Please someone explain?

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[Raja Sultan]

Dear Media Colleagues

This is very intersting debate and I agree the aggregate views about the TV Channels and Anchor persons .Kindly open similar debate on Print media and the regional journalism which is in true sense The RAPE OF JOURNALISM .Illiterate, semi illiterate people are so called journaliss in regional jounrnalism. Even the big named print news papers reporters are illiterate and they are not being replaced by the professional jounralists .When the feed back from the down roots is in the hands of illiterates how the positive journalism will flourish......The name of this topic looks filthy but in fact this is the correct name and title for our present jounrnalism.

Regards

Raja Sultan Mahmood Chauhan

Chief Editor

www.gujarkhan2day.com

0300-9545622

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[nadeem mirza]

 there are no specific years some become with in 2 3 years some takes more time buts theres a difference between senior and professional reporter some senior reporter in print and electronic media are neither professional nor they have any talent but they are just senior becoz they have spent  their lives in journalism so few years matter  professionalism can appear with in a short period of time

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[murtaza siyal]

Yes My dear you are right, this is right time, we have to  unite against the non profissionals,  they are working with their vested interests.   Murtaza Siyal Ibrat Magazine Hyderabad --- On Fri, 8/27/10, Qasim Rajpar <qasim_...@yahoo.com> wrote: are working

[INP LAHORE]

Dear Haris you raised some good points about electronic media in
Pakistan. But I wish we could be able one day to make people
accountable for what they are doing. With my personal experience, I
have seen channel bosses promoting such people, which you mentioned in
your email, because both don't know about journalism nor they want to
know.
Keep it up!

Rohail Akbar
Bureau Chief
INP-Lahore
03466444144

[Ghazanfar Ahmad]

My dear Murtza Sial

Your are right and myself agree with you. I think it is time of this debit. We have to work on this issue. I personally know the academic qualifications of the reporters who are working in the rural areas are attached with the TV Channels and printed media. My dear we have to continue our struggle this issue. It is a nice issue and request to the friends to carry on discussion.

 

Ghazanfar Ahmad Sial

Aaj TV .Liaquatpur.

0300-7811574

 

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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 03:19:15 -0700
From: murtaz...@yahoo.com

[Abdul Rehman Jami]

Dear Friends ! after going through the discussion I could not understand who is the true journalist.If someone can describe for easy understanding of poor readers like me. There is no doubt that there are few anchors on our electronic media those who lack basic norms and their doing is against their saying. But then if Talat Hussain is not the journalist if javed ch is not the journalist then I am afraid we have to wipe off so many senior journalists from the list. Instead of washing own dirty clothes in the centre of the streets, we must join hand to define the journalist and journalism.Man working with some newspaper from last twenty years as Daftari or peon can not be called journalist, likewise a person who qualifies for the job is journalist even if he is not the working with some print or electronic media centre. I agree that we must mark the black sheep but then who dare ?

Malik Abdul Rahman Jami

www.hamariweb.com

[Islam...@expressnews.tv]

Dear Brother

Plz don?t mix off Javed Chudry and Talat Hussain in the category of film makers and NGOs brand anchors. They both are working journalists and we all respect them because they are professional journalists and they were started their career from Primary journalism but the other so many male and female anchors who came from Film industry and NGOs are not professional journalists, most of them are unaware from Journalism ethics. So we can just say that they (Film industry and NGOs brand anchors) should go back to their original field.

Sajid

----- Original Message -----
From: Ghazanfar Ahmad [mailto:gasi...@hotmail.com]
To: pressp...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 18:39:40 +0600
Subject: RE: RAPE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN MEDIA

My dear Murtza Sial
Your are right and myself agree with you. I think it is time of this debit. We have to work on this issue. I personally know the academic qualifications of the reporters who are working in the rural areas are attached with the TV Channels and printed media. My dear we have to continue our struggle this issue. It is a nice issue and request to the friends to carry on discussion.

Ghazanfar Ahmad Sial
Aaj TV .Liaquatpur.
0300-7811574

[agha ali]

Fellow, there is need to learn something about the background history of journalists. According to my knowledge, Talat Hussain, Fahad Hussain have had a lot of their contributions in the field of media. No one can question about the authenticity of these anchors. They have pumped over 10-15 years in journalism.

Agha Ali

PPI

 

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[Abdul Rehman Jami]

Brother ! why don't you ask and sit  to set a criteria for a  gonion journalist this will be easy and straight way to kick out the quakes. Why we are just trying  to hit the bush around.

Malik Abdul Rahman Jami

[Irfan Ashraf]

Jami Sahab taking a cue from your question that who is a Journalist, I
deem it fit to explain the term as per my own understanding. I would
love if other friends could also touch upon the issue to make it more
understandable.

Though there is no single explanation to define a journalist, but, in
a narrow way, a Journalist is a professional who is directly related
with collection of facts/news to write it objectively in accordance
with the professional standards (ethics) of this discipline for
awareness of unknown audiences (Mass Communication). Sub-editors comes
in the same category, who polish such facts to complete a work that is
half done.

Though, the advent of TV journalism has blurred the way a Journalist
was defined traditionally, however, we can still vaguely say that a
journalist is different from an anchorperson or Talk show Host. Both
an anchorperson and hosts are more privileged (because they can freely
express opinion about an event or news, but this privilege single
handedly makes them different from a journalist). Sometime you would
see them out of the air-conditioned TV studios to cover an event such
as flash floods or long march etc but that do not make an
anchorperson, or TV host a Journalist. Because this aspect of
reporting represents a borrowed role, which is mainly attributed to a
field journalist.

TV anchoring, Talk show hosting and even column writings are
full-fledged professions, but in Pakistan professionals related to
such fields should know what they are and what they are not. Of course
they are not journalists because they are more privileged. This role
is so sacred that only seasoned journalists in the past were allowed
to write for opinion pages and that too towards the end of their
career. We hope fresh hosts and anchorpersons would use this
responsibility more professionally.

Syed Irfan Ashraf,
Peshawar

[tariq ahmad]

here in UK,people have stopped watching TV shows which they believe are hitting below the belt,but what about those hundred of innocent viewers whose belief is blurred and twisted by these shows,thus creating a particular mind set.

Tariq Ahmad

[shahba...@express.com.pk]

I second the point of view of my friend irfan ashraf of peshawar regarding scop of duties /responsibilities
of a professional journalist and an anchor person or talkshow host (who is suppose to be a journalist but not necessarily be a journalist)as is evident from their performence.And all this has been happening owing to the mashroom growth of new channals .they are unaware about the norms and ethics of journalism.hence causing harm to this nobel profession.so in order to avoid any abnormal situation there is a need of proper training in the specific feild as well as proper check on it.
Shahbaz Anwar Khan
Daily EXPRESS
Lahore
(---- Original Message -----
From: Irfan Ashraf [mailto:syedirf...@gmail.com]
To: pressp...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:55:57 -0700

Subject: Re: RAPE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN MEDIA

Jami Sahab taking a cue from your question that who is a Journalist, I

Syed Irfan Ashraf,
Peshawar

>> Plz don?t mix off ?Javed Chudry and Talat Hussain in the category of film

>> Yes My dear you are right, this is right time, we have to ?unite against
>> the non profissionals, ?they are working with their vested interests.

>> govt journalists and party girls who ?become news anchors/hosts and they are

>> basically raping.
>>
>>
>>
>> As we all know that the whole country is facing the biggest trauma of the
>> history, I think this is the right time to promote true journalist and the
>> true journalism.
>>
>>
>>
>> These part timers were never belonged to the journalists community and
>> they never welcomed in press clubs and our unions, hopefully they will leave
>> the industry after raping their selves and viewer will put them out as they
>> did in past with few of their partners.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Faysal Aziz Khan
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: pressp...@googlegroups.com <pressp...@googlegroups.com>
>>
>> To: pressp...@googlegroups.com <pressp...@googlegroups.com>
>>
>> Sent: Thu Aug 26 22:55:05 2010
>>
>> Subject: RE: RAPE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN MEDIA
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> Awfully, another Great Anchor Mubashir Lucman was asking to federal
>> minister Fridous Aashiq Awan a great question i.e. Aap kal Dera Ismail Khan
>> mein relief activities keliye gaye thein achcha yeah bataein D.I,Khan ki kul

>> abadi kitni hey . ? ? ? ?kya sawal hey ?Maza aagaya ?Hail Anchors
>>
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Ilyas Danish________________

>> > mother of two ?brothers killed by an angry mob in Sialkot.Sana Bucha

[Shabbir Hussain Imam]

It's not true that "there is no single explanation to define a journalist."

Journalist is the ONE whose source of income is only ONE,
the media organization, he/she works for.

Shabbir Hussain Imam
Peshawar

0333-920.8655

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[Rizwan Razi]

Reading required for all the members of group.
Go back to basic law of the land. When the Wage Board for journalists was constituted by ZAB, the Journalists was defined ''as an individual who have no other source of income than working with the newspaper organization''. May be this definition need a review, yet it is present in the law if somebody dare of read his/her own law instead of bashing the key boards of their computers.

Cheers 

Rizwan Razi

Dawn News

Lahore

 

 

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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 20:03:42 +0500

Subject: Re: RAPE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN MEDIA

From: yar...@gmail.com
To: pressp...@googlegroups.com

[Mehtab Haider]

Dear Friend
                  I considered Irfan Ashraf as my friend and he provoked me to
plunge into this ongoing lengthy debate bec he discussed the issue of thinking
process which is the most important aspect of good reporting. Although, all
things including training and capacity building related endeavors are crucial
but honesty and dedications are those virtues which are the most important
component of good human beings as well as for good reporter.
Thanks and Regards
Mehtab Haider
Islamabad

[Habib Akram]

If discussion starts on basics then another question arises؛‎ the difference between a professional doctor and a professional journalist?
Waiting for reply
Habib

--- original message ---
From: "Rizwan Razi" <rizwa...@hotmail.com>
Subject: [BULK]  RE: RAPE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN MEDIA
Date: 31st August 2010
Time: 11:41:30 pm

Reading required for all the members of group.
Go back to basic law of the land. When the Wage Board for journalists was constituted by ZAB, the Journalists was defined ''as an individual who have no other source of income than working with the newspaper organization''. May be this definition need a review, yet it is present in the law if somebody dare of read his/her own law instead of bashing the key boards of their computers.
Cheers 

Rizwan Razi

Dawn News

Lahore

 

 

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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 20:03:42 +0500

Subject: Re: RAPE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN MEDIA

From: yar...@gmail.com
To: pressp...@googlegroups.com

Brother ! why don't you ask and sit  to set a criteria for a  gonion journalist this will be easy and straight way to kick out the quakes. Why we are just trying  to hit the bush around.

Malik Abdul Rahman Jami

[Abdul Rehman Jami]

Brothers! in my opinion this is a simple question of demand and supply. When only PTV was available there were very few faces that we use to see all the time. No the anchors are less in number and TV channels are more. So this has become  an opportunity for so many to get in. There are some who even do not know the correct pronunciation but due to their PR they are No 1 anchor. so  just wait for the time. Like democracy they will also take time to be washed away.

Malik Abdul Rahman Jami

[Abdul Rehman Jami]

But sir this is the definition of  a working journalist. Any body who has a Master degree  in journalism but could not get a chance to work for any newspaper organization and   had been running some cold drink stall.If now due to opportunity he is getting into his actual profession you would according to this definition resist his entry into the field. will this be fair to that poor fallow.

Jami 

[INP LAHORE]

Reading required for all the members of group.
Go back to basic law of the land. When the Wage Board for journalists was constituted by ZAB, the Journalists was defined ''as an individual who have no other source of income than working with the newspaper organization''. May be this definition need a review, yet it is present in the law if somebody dare of read his/her own law instead of bashing the key boards of their computers.

Rohail Akbar

Bureau Chief

INP - Lahore
03334082240
 

[Rabiah Jamil Beg]

I think not only in UK even in Pakistan viewers are frustrated and fedup of these Shows because most of the shows just creating a frustration in society.

Rabiah Baig

Correspondent/Producer

GEO NEWS

Karachi

Cell: 0323-2691705

 

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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:58:21 +0100

Subject: Re: RAPE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN MEDIA

From: tariq....@gmail.com
To: pressp...@googlegroups.com

[raza shah]

Dear Jami

There are many people who are running thier business under the Shelter of Journalisim ? What you think about them. They are getting a lot of favour for their business as Journalists.

The main thing is ethics

Sincerely

Raza Shah

www.bitehqeeq.com

[Rizwan Razi]

As per your words, if the 'poor' chap want to continue with Cold Drink business, then Journalism would not be his sole source of income and he cant consider as journalists as per the law.

 

Rizwan Razi

Dawn News

Lahore

 

 

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 00:52:06 +0500

[TazeenAkhtar]

EXCUSE ME................BUT  WHO IS THE PIONEER OF THESE SHOWS ?

I THINK THESE SHOWS ARE LESS RESPONSIBLE FOR FRUSTRATION. ACTUALLY THERE ARE THREE MAIN FACTORS THAT ARE TO BLAME AND NEED CORRECTION.

THEY ARE;

1; INCOMPETENCE OF THE ANCHOR PERSONS, AS THEY ARE NOT EXPERIENCED JOURNALISTS. MOST OF THEM HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH JOURNALISM OR MASS COMMUNICATION.

MOST OF THEM ARE ENJOYING THAT POSITION ONLY BECAUSE OF THEIR SCREEN BEAUTY.

THEY HAVE NOT MUCH KNOWLEDGE BUT THEY POSE AS THEY ARE FULLY AWARE OF EVERY THING AND THEIR GUESTS ARE NOT MORE THAN MINORS.


2; THESE SHOWS HAVE TO BRING SOME ISSUE EVERY DAY. THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE. SO THE ANCHOR PERSONS TRY TO PRODUCE A STORM IN A CUP OF TEA. DOING THIS THEY BECOME RIDICULOUS AND CONTROVERSIAL.

3; OUR PEOPLE ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT KIND OF SHOWS. WE AS A WHOLE LIKE TO ENJOY THE HUMILIATION OF OTHERS.

TO SOME EXTENT THESE SHOWS ARE SATISFACTORY FOR THE VIEWERS AS THEY CRITICISE THOSE WHO ARE OUT OF REACH OF THE MASSES. THESE HIGH UPS FEEL A SENSE OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

THANKS

TAZEEN AKHTAR
EDITOR
DAILY AZKAAR ISLAMABAD-KARACHI
PH; 051-2606899
FAX; 0512890655
0321-5127896
www.dailyazkaar.com.pk

[Yoosuf Bhutta]

This is,no doubt,a very thoughtful and useful rather long discussion but also a very good opportunity to draw a line between fake mediapersons and real professionals.

I suggest let us compile effective suggesions to stop this Rape.

Everybody can present his own views as suggestions.

If my friends agree with me may i start from my own suggestions?

Waiting for your response,

Regards

Muhammad Yoosuf Bhutta

Journalist/Producer/Director

03338436820-03006218938

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From: TazeenAkhtar <taze...@gmail.com>
To: pressp...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 7:01:51 PM

[wajid Ali Wajid]

I fully endorse Tazeen Akhtar's point of view and analysis of these
so-called shows and their presenters.
" EVERY JOURNALIST CAN BE AN ANCHOR BUT EVERY ANCHOR CAN'T BE A JOURNALIST".
One can easity detect the depth of knowledge of an anchor on the topic
of the show.
As late Sheikh Sa'adi says;-
Ta mard sukhan na gufta bashid
aaeb-o-hunerish nahufta bashid
As and when most of them inaugurate the show, their grip on the topic
could easily be detected.
Anyway I wish them all the success as they are the currency of today's
media market and the show must go on until something big happens.
Most of them love to have cock-fight on their shows but don't care the
problems ordinary person is facing.
Wajid Ali Wajid
Ex-Staff Reporter,
daily Arab Times Kuwait
0333 5184757

[TazeenAkhtar]

I M THANKFUL TO MR WAJID ALI WAJID.  WE HOPE  THE  REAL INTELLECT WOULD COME OUT ONE DAY  AND  THE PEOPLE WILL NOT HAVE LISTEN THE SAME  "GHISSI  PITTI"  DAILY.

[Haroon Shah]

I am just trying to jump into this discussion again and want to know from our Pakistani journalist’s opinion on the issue of professionalism, ethics and code of conduct.

I know from Peshawar to many journalists who after getting visa as journalists or accompanying any US delegation slipped in to United States leaving a bunch of embarrassment for our Pakistani brothers and I am announcing the launch of blog on these rotten eggs who are earning bad name for Pakistan. I know Jahangir Khattak Senior Journalist and leader of Khyber Union of Journalists, Syed Haider Shah photographer of Daily News International and also worked as photographer with top international media Syed Fakhr e Alam Staff reporter of Daily The Muslim, Faisal Qazi owner and Chief Editor of Daily Khyber Mail, Babar Majeed photographer, Asif dar brother of senior Editor Ashraf Dar, Bureau Chief of ANN Saeed iqbal Hashmi and too many others slipped in US and Europe. Pakistani journalists are still using their profession as a stepping stone and slipping in US. I don’t know weather it is professional and ethical or not but I am collecting data of such journalists at my blog http://pressreviewofpakistan.blogspot.com/ if you have any details of such people who are earning bad name for Pakistan pl do post your information

 

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:51 PM, wajid Ali Wajid <wali...@gmail.com> wrote:

I fully endorse Tazeen Akhtar's point of view and analysis of these
so-called shows and their presenters.
" EVERY JOURNALIST CAN BE AN ANCHOR BUT EVERY ANCHOR CAN'T BE A JOURNALIST".
One can easity detect the depth of knowledge of an anchor on the topic

[qamar ullah]

Without endorsing the act of these journalists who slipped into USA or staying anywhere illegally, I wonder why you are so0 interested in collect6ing such a data? Obviously when the journalists will be paid so low and they will be dep-riv4d of salarie4s for months after months and the owners will co0ntinue to exploit the poor photographers and journalists, what else you can exp-ect from them?
They are no journalists, they were once upon a time but no more...so forget them and let them live their own lives !!!
Take care

Muhammad Qamarullah
+92301 850 9932
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[Yoosuf Bhutta]

dear Mr. Habib,

You have raised the core question which is the root cause of the whole problem.

A Professional Doctor: Passes Inter exam with distinction and enables him/her self for the merit to get admission in MBBS etc.Then he has to study full time for almost five years with practical practice,exams etc.Then he/she after passing all annual exams has to complete 2 years House Job to further enable him/her to practice the theory,observation and knowledge. Then he gets a licence for professional doctors practice.

A Professional Journalist (according to ground reality): A TV anchor Does not need any formal education,practice and house job.He needs only a PR skill or personal art of being hired by an organization.Sometimes new journalists work as trainee reporters,then independent reporters and then get on to other positions but on the other hand renowned journalists Nazeer Naji,Munoo Bhai,Abdul Qadir Hassn,Hassan Nisar etc have no journalism degree.They worked from the very bottom and struggled with the help of their wisdom,hard work and leastly PR to get the top positions.

The world has changed a lot.This is not the age of Ustadi-Shagirdi in any field including journalism.Now you must have proper education,start from lower position and then raise to the top positions with your hard work,innovation and professional zeal.

Note: News organizations owners,Govt. regulatory authority like PEMRA,Press and Information Deptt. PID,Journalists Organisations,Press Clubs are also culprits of the RAPE .(we should call it gang rape instead)

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From: Habib Akram <habib...@samaa.tv>
To: Rizwan Razi <rizwa...@hotmail.com>; Peress Pakistan Press Pakista n <pressp...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 12:06:29 AM

[Abdul Rehman Jami]

We if we call ourself an educated people now must discard the word "RAPE". Somebody may suggest some better word and then we can move on for further discussion. Moreover journalism is something God gifted first and then you can refine it like Mr Yousaf named few Top journalist.A Man who is interested in news or he is news hungry can be termed as journalist? A man who has a skill to observe, express can be termed as a journalist? Any body who has done  master in journalism can be called as a journalist?

[Yoosuf Bhutta]

Dear Jami Sahab,

WHO IS A JOURNALIST?

A journalist collects and disseminates information about current events, people, trends, and issues. His or her work is acknowledged as journalism.

Reporters are one type of journalist. They create reports as a profession for broadcast or publication in mass media such as newspapers, television, radio, magazines, documentary film, and the Internet. Reporters find sources for their work, their reports can be either spoken or written, and they are often expected to report in the most objective and unbiased way to serve the public good. A columnist is a journalist who writes pieces that appear regularly in newspapers or magazines.

Depending on the context, the term journalist also includes various types of editors and visual journalists, such as photographers, graphic artists, and page designers.

WHAT SHOULD BE THE TOPIC OF THIS DEBATE?

There are many,you may pick any one:

i-For the sake of Professionalism

ii-Who are Really not journalists?

iii-Prevention is better than cure

iv-Molestation of Pure Journalism in broadcast media

I hope it is enough.

Regards.

Muhammad Yoosuf Bhutta

Journalist/Producer/Director

0333 8436820-03006218938  

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From: Abdul Rehman Jami <yar...@gmail.com>
To: pressp...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 8:52:37 PM