Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values

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aamir attaa

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Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values

Posted By Aamir Attaa On February 15, 2010 (1:43 pm) In Media

Islamic Republic of Pakistan is the name of country we live in. This country has its own social values and norms that 99.8 percent of the population strictly follows.

I remember there was a time, when Anwar Maqsood was asked to not to write a scene where a brother and sister were supposed to be shot in a room with no one else present there.

Today, the situation has changed a lot – we need to think upon the customs our Television channels are preaching.

We don’t want to hinder the concept of enlightened moderation, however, when such moderation is causing the mental and physical health of our youth, it should be questioned by authority concerned, i.e. PEMRA.

I got this email from Imran, and I am posting it the way it was.

You might have heard about the channel ARY MUSIK – they are telecasting a program named “Living on the edge”. This is one of the the most under-valued programs ever produced in Pakistan. The host of the show asks girls to do in-appropriate and below the social value things on camera to prove that they are daring.

You can check all the videos on you tube. Moreover in the last season of 2008/2009 he asked contestants of the show to eat cockroaches. We Muslims are strictly prohibited to eat HARAM Things and this is the height of sins that a TV host should be asking Muslims to do – that too in front of camera.

Moreover there is a music channel named OYE TV owned by EYE TELEVIS ION NETWORKS PAKISTAN who also own famous HUM TV and cooking channel MAsala TV. The Channel openly telecasts songs in which girls highly expose themselves and kiss in front of Pakistani Audience.

I request everyone to lodge complaints against all these bad media people who are ready to go to any extent for earning money.

We as Pakistanis can only raise our voice and let the authorities know about the issues.

Article taken from ProPakistani - http://propakistani.pk
URL to article: http://propakistani.pk/2010/02/15/vulgar-tv-shows-and-our-hampering-values/

S Mahrukh

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 I absolutely agree with this... i have recently made a 5 mins documentary on the disastrous impact of starplus on our younger generation as well as the house wives.... and this living on the edge thing is hitting me inside from a long time... so i believe this is going to be my next project Inshallah....
 
Mahrukh Qureshi
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Dear Aamir 
AoA
Allah may bless you. Keep it pushing .I have already applied to Government to stop vulgarity .Best wishes,
Sanaullah Bhutta



 

PEMRA ORDINANCE 2002 REQUIRES A COUNCIL OF COMPLAINTS

 

 

Day by day Role of Print & electronic media in our life is being very important   because it is playing vital role to provide the latest news of our country and abroad it is increasing our knowledge about our country or status of our country. Through Electronic media public is going to aware about the policies of our govt. People has started to know the about the kings of corruptions of our country It also build the public opinion. Through print and electronic media every person knows about the latest news.  it is like breathing. We can not live without it . it  , very important, we rely on it completely for our daily life

 

On the other hand it is also destroying our values and customs and harming Islamic values in the name of entertainments and vulgar commercials. Nude and naked Kunjar Khana in the name of art and girls dances etc. This portion of vulgarity has been playing a key role in our daily lives. it have a great influence on our society and culture. People; now spend most of their time with the electronic media. Communications   I believe that we are challenging and violating the rules and orders of Allah the Mighty and due to this going down to earth , living  fearful life and facing hardship and terrorism. Allah is not pleased with us.

 

Pemra has played a good role by providing licenses for electronic media but totally failed to implement the terms and condition of license and follow the rules and regulation of  PEMRA Ordinance 2002  . according to the clause 26 of PEMRA Ordinance 2002  as  It has been mentioned  on web site of permra  that for immediate and fair redressal of complaints pertaining to operations of electronic media, section 26 of PEMRA Ordinance 2002 requires that Council of Complaints shall be established, with as many branches as necessary, within two hundred days of the establishment of the Authority. 

 Each Council of Complaints will be comprised of eminent citizens who have rich experience in their respective fields i.e. law, journalism, electronic media, public relations, etc. None of such Councils may have any official from PEMRA or any other government department as its member which vouch their complete autonomy. Each Council of complaints is also required to have at least two female members only Regional General Manager acts as a Secretary to the Council to providing representation to half of our population and also encouraging women to come forward to lodge their complaints without any reluctance. 
At present, Councils of Complaints are not operating and without it Electronics and print media does not have any check on vulgarity and Kunjar Khana.

It is appealed to Chairman Pemra and Prime Minister to for Council of Complaints of Permra and there should be a censer board to censer commercial not news and comments prior to display.  It will not harm to any stack holder as it will be equal for all. If we will try to follow the order of Allah The Might then Allah will forgive us.

Best wishes

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Tayyab Abbasi

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Agreed.......!!!!!!!

We have to play our part as much as we can.....

"ALLAH ham sab ko aasanian aata farmaiy aur aasanian taqseem karnay ka sharf aata farmaiy"

Tayyab Abbasi



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 I absolutely agree with this... i have recently made a 5 mins documentary on the disastrous impact of starplus on our younger generation as well as the house wives.... and this living on the edge thing is hitting me inside from a long time... so i believe this is going to be my next project Inshallah....
 
Mahrukh Qureshi
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:51:16 +0500
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Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values

Posted By Aamir Attaa On February 15, 2010 (1:43 pm) In Media
Islamic Republic of Pakistan is the name of country we live in. This country has its own social values and norms that 99.8 percent of the population strictly follows.
I remember there was a time, when Anwar Maqsood was asked to not to write a scene where a brother and sister were supposed to be shot in a room with no one else present there.
Today, the situation has changed a lot ? we need to think upon the customs our Television channels are preaching.
We don?t want to hinder the concept of enlightened moderation, however, when such moderation is causing the mental and physical health of our youth, it should be questioned by authority concerned, i.e. PEMRA.

I got this email from Imran, and I am posting it the way it was.
You might have heard about the channel ARY MUSIK ? they are telecasting a program named ?Living on the edge?. This is one of the the most under-valued programs ever produced in Pakistan. The host of the show asks girls to do in-appropriate and below the social value things on camera to prove that they are daring.
You can check all the videos on you tube. Moreover in the last season of 2008/2009 he asked contestants of the show to eat cockroaches. We Muslims are strictly prohibited to eat HARAM Things and this is the height of sins that a TV host should be asking Muslims to do ? that too in front of camera.

Moreover there is a music channel named OYE TV owned by EYE TELEVIS ION NETWORKS PAKISTAN who also own famous HUM TV and cooking channel MAsala TV. The Channel openly telecasts songs in which girls highly expose themselves and kiss in front of Pakistani Audience.
I request everyone to lodge complaints against all these bad media people who are ready to go to any extent for earning money.
We as Pakistanis can only raise our voice and let the authorities know about the issues.
Article taken from ProPakistani - http://propakistani.pk/

aamir...@expressnews.tv

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to hell with fundamentalism.in village women are working with brothers and husbands where is socalled islamic at that time.pakistan should not be a islamic republic

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Agreed.......!!!!!!!

We have to play our part as much as we can.....

"ALLAH ham sab ko aasanian aata farmaiy aur aasanian taqseem karnay ka sharf aata farmaiy"

Tayyab Abbasi


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I absolutely agree with this... i have recently made a 5 mins documentary on the disastrous impact of starplus on our younger generation as well as the house wives.... and this living on the edge thing is hitting me inside from a long time... so i believe this is going to be my next project Inshallah....

Mahrukh Qureshi
News1 Tv

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:51:16 +0500
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Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values


Posted By Aamir Attaa On February 15, 2010 (1:43 pm) In Media
Islamic Republic of Pakistan is the name of country we live in. This country has its own social values and norms that 99.8 percent of the population strictly follows.
I remember there was a time, when Anwar Maqsood was asked to not to write a scene where a brother and sister were supposed to be shot in a room with no one else present there.
Today, the situation has changed a lot ? we need to think upon the customs our Television channels are preaching.
We don?t want to hinder the concept of enlightened moderation, however, when such moderation is causing the mental and physical health of our youth, it should be questioned by authority concerned, i.e. PEMRA.
I got this email from Imran, and I am posting it the way it was.

You might have heard about the channel ARY MUSIK ? they are telecasting a program named ?Living on the edge?. This is one of the the most under-valued programs ever produced in Pakistan. The host of the show asks girls to do in-appropriate and below the social value things on camera to prove that they are daring.
You can check all the videos on you tube. Moreover in the last season of 2008/2009 he asked contestants of the show to eat cockroaches. We Muslims are strictly prohibited to eat HARAM Things and this is the height of sins that a TV host should be asking Muslims to do ? that too in front of camera.
Moreover there is a music channel named OYE TV owned by EYE TELEVIS ION NETWORKS PAKISTAN who also own famous HUM TV and cooking channel MAsala TV. The Channel openly telecasts songs in which girls highly expose themselves and kiss in front of Pakistani Audience.
I request everyone to lodge complaints against all these bad media people who are ready to go to any extent for earning money.
We as Pakistanis can only raise our voice and let the authorities know about the issues.
Article taken from ProPakistani - http://propakistani.pk/
URL to article: http://propakistani.pk/2010/02/15/vulgar-tv-shows-and-our-hampering-values/


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Javed A.Malik

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I would prefer vulger shows ( they are not as vulger Gerry Springer by the way) than our current affair shows. Most of them are offensive, devoid of any existing policy challenges and are boring.
 
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iftikhar hussain

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I havent heard of such valgarity nor have seen it but what my friend discribe is shamefull for the entire comunity.we are muslim ALKHAMDOLILLAH. we should resist and raise our voice against such shameful activities.the concern authorities must ban and take strict action against the envolve channel.


 
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Rasheed Khalid

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Vulgarity is a highly subjective matter and is different for different
people. For me a maulvi talking about politics is also a vulgarity and
should be banned. Presspakistan group should not allow such stupid third
class emails to every recipient. I am not interested in such junk.

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 well... as long as the content of humor is in there our public will keep on liking it....
the day it chooses vulgar comments over-riding the thin line between humor and vulgarity... it will c its end!

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aamir attaa

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Dear Rasheed Khalid, i highly respect your stance, however, terming an opinion as stupid and third class is way below the language you should use on a public forum

Regards,

Moazzam S Bhatti

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We've seen the coment on Mr.Rasheed Khalid but what he said was not there.You should include his comment before giving your opinion.He might have correctly use the expressions like"Stupid and Third Class".Which we can't know without first reading his comment.It's also your corporate social responsibility to share his views also with your recipients.

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Rasheed Khalid

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Dear Mr Atta,

I used the two acronyms only because I do not know to which TV shows you
were referring to and what vulgarity was there. You yourself admitted you
heard it from a friend and did not see the programmes.

To me it was stupid and third class because I could not comprehend what
was vulgar in the shows I don't know which ones. Your charged commentary
was simply clueless as you can see from your email or your original
commentary or whatever followed the commentary reproduced below. No links
or any reference I could find. For me it was just wastage of time.

Otherwise also, I am not interested in knowing anybody's views on what I
regard as non-issues.

Once paintings of Sadquain titled "Lazzat-e-Bosa" and Halawat-e-Bosa" put
in an exhibition in Lahore were described as vulgar and "fuhash" by some
self-styled newspapers in early 1970s. Dr Mubashar Hasan, the then Finance
Minister, had rightly defended the paintings saying this is not "fuhashi."
The fuhashi, he had stated in a statement, was that while poor women in
our villages walk four or five miles barefotted in scorching heat or
chilling winter to fetch contaminated water in three or four pitchers
piled up on their heads for their families whereas begums of Islamabad get
35 gallons of chlorinated water per head right in their wash rooms and
kitchens.

I tend to side with Dr Mubashar and not those obscurantist magazines or
newspapers. You know vulgarity is also a relative term and change with
space and time.

Rasheed Khalid

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aamir attaa

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Dear Rasheed Khalid,

Please find following responses in blue font


On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Rasheed Khalid <r...@qau.edu.pk> wrote:
Dear Mr Atta,

I used the two acronyms only because I do not know to which TV shows you
were referring to and what vulgarity was there.

If you don't know the show, then how could you comment on it? Moreover, show names and their vulgar nature has been discussed in details. I would request you to go through my email again.
 
You yourself admitted you
heard it from a friend and did not see the  programmes.

Again, you misrepresented here - as i never mentioned that i didn't watch  the shows. They are easily available on youtube, and for your ease, i am giving following links (as a little sample)

http://www.koolmuzone.com/2010/02/living-on-the-edge-episode-4-feb-10/
http://www.koolmuzone.com/2010/02/living-on-the-edge-episode-4-feb-10/


To me it was stupid and third class because I could not comprehend what
was vulgar in the shows I don't know which ones. Your charged commentary
was simply clueless as you can see from your email or your original
commentary or whatever followed the commentary reproduced below. No links
or any reference I could find. For me it was just wastage of time.

We didn't want to re-produce such shows in the name of references, however, everyone (except you) know their existence
 

Sohail Yusuf

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I agree that media should take care of the complex fabric of the society, ethics and norms. Yes, Vulgarity need definition and if we keep an eye on our society, it would be easy to define this matter.If media do not care of these matter than please fabricate any RATING system. because some of our  dramas, shows, and even news needs rating mechanism. because Freedom must not be free. Self check in media is very very important and we are losing this ground.

But please first decide, what you want to give your viewers, Brother amir atta is right about at the " Living on the edge" ( the so called Pakistani fear factor), once he offered to eat NASWAR to a girl on behalf of 1000 rupees.After eating it the  Girl felt unconciouse, felt on the floor and pissed. Tell me is this entertainment we are giving to daughters of Pakistan? There can be more challenges can be given in descent manner.

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Munir Ahmed

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Dear All
I am following a discussion that would lead to nothing. The shows would keep on going on air. Having read so many comments, I watched the clips of the show on 'Youtube' and believe that someone wanted to create hype for the said show, and befooled everyone on the list. One the other hand, I agree to Mr. Rasheed Khalid that "vulgarity is also a relative term and change with space and time", and like to add one more - the mindset.
re
Munir

aamir attaa

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Yea nothing gonna happen - as change doesn't come itself. Media has changed the shape of society, still - there are issues we are reluctant to talk about, either coz of benefits or otherwise the fears.

If (we) journalist will give up, believe me there is not much hope left.

Rasheed Khalid

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Dear Mr Atta,

I dont want to indulge in this "fazool bahas." I did not comment on the
shows which I don't know which but your email which was referring to some
so-called vulgar shows. Why did you send me this email in the first place
without referring to such shows.

I wont answer any of future such topics but I dont want to receive any
emails on it also.

Rasheed Khalid

> Dear All
> I am following a discussion that would lead to nothing. The shows would
> keep
> on going on air. Having read so many comments, I watched the clips of the
> show on 'Youtube' and believe that someone wanted to create hype for the
> said show, and befooled everyone on the list. One the other hand, I agree
> to
> Mr. Rasheed Khalid that "vulgarity is also a relative term and change with
> space and time", and like to add one more - the mindset.
> re
> Munir
>
>
>
>
> On 18 February 2010 20:54, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

>> *Dear Rasheed Khalid,
>>
>> Please find following responses in blue font*


>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Rasheed Khalid <r...@qau.edu.pk> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Mr Atta,
>>>
>>> I used the two acronyms only because I do not know to which TV shows
>>> you
>>> were referring to and what vulgarity was there.
>>
>>

>> *If you don't know the show, then how could you comment on it? Moreover,


>> show names and their vulgar nature has been discussed in details. I
>> would

>> request you to go through my email again.*


>>
>>
>>> You yourself admitted you
>>> heard it from a friend and did not see the programmes.
>>>
>>

>> *Again, you misrepresented here - as i never mentioned that i didn't


>> watch the shows. They are easily available on youtube, and for your
>> ease, i
>> am giving following links (as a little sample)
>>
>> http://www.koolmuzone.com/2010/02/living-on-the-edge-episode-4-feb-10/

>> http://www.koolmuzone.com/2010/02/living-on-the-edge-episode-4-feb-10/*


>>
>>>
>>> To me it was stupid and third class because I could not comprehend what
>>> was vulgar in the shows I don't know which ones. Your charged
>>> commentary
>>> was simply clueless as you can see from your email or your original
>>> commentary or whatever followed the commentary reproduced below. No
>>> links
>>> or any reference I could find. For me it was just wastage of time.
>>>
>>

>> *We didn't want to re-produce such shows in the name of references,


>> however, everyone (except you) know their existence

>> *

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i think we should strong in our cultural & religious values.no show can effect ,there is no indication of vulgar show.
 
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So typical of us Pakistanis! We vent our spleen on things we have no idea about! We base our opinions on emotionalism and heresay!

What a GREAT nation!

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Dear All,
 
I think this issue is being dragged with useless arguments. First of all stopping our local channels are not going to make much of a difference as all the other cable channels will remain in every household showing content 100 times worse than ours. Secondly, I am of the view that its up to each individual to decide their direction and viewership habits/opinions. If some of my media friends are so pumped up about the issue, kindly work towards getting the real vulgar international channels off the cable screens as they are the true distraction for the next generation.
 
I totally agree with Rasheed Khalid when he says he doesn't have time for such wasteful topics where some of our media friends don't bother to look beyond a few feet from their presence.
 
Lets close this debate as channels only show what their viewers demand and if someone doesn't like it, they have the liberty to switch channels within seconds. I think the people that complain are the first ones to watch these shows as most of us haven't even seen it on TV.
 
Let peace prevail and happy weekend to all friends!
 
Imran Akhtar Asim

maliha sabah

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ACTION SHOULD BE TAKEN AGAINST FEAR FACTOR INDIA RUNNING ON PAKISTANI
CHANNEL and BRAND WHO IS SUPPORTING SUCH INDIAN SHOWS like DJUICE
should be BANNED , SPonsor should not brand such indian shows then
channels will not show it

PAKISTANI BRANDS R SUPPORTING INDIAN SHOWS wht the hell?

Wht culture u r talking abt here

LIVING ON THE EDGE and Waqar Zaka should be appreciated cuz of the
fact that hes the only one whose making shows which r viewed by all
and wht vulguarity u r talking here , ur research is zero Mister, im a
regular viewer of this in the new season where u have seen
cockraoches? plz share it

and further u r worried abt cockroaches being haram but not thinking
that Indian songs r running thats OK , Indian Fear Factor is being
supported by DJUICE is ok , can u watch that show with ur family wht
kind of dressing fear factor india has?

we start a competition and when our own ppl like Waqar Zaka gets the
hype we try to bring him down by saying its NOT OUR CULTRUE BLA BLA
BLA

WHT IS OUR CULTURE ? to support indian movies to support indian fear
factor shit shows here?

EITHER BAN EVERYTHING OR ACCEPT IT , its showbiz not ur own MOSQUE
where u can set ur own laws and say this is our culture since we like
it

On Feb 15, 10:51 pm, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values*


>
> Posted By Aamir Attaa On February 15, 2010 (1:43 pm) In

> Media<http://propakistani.pk/category/industry/media/>


>
> Islamic Republic of Pakistan is the name of country we live in. This country
> has its own social values and norms that 99.8 percent of the population
> strictly follows.
>
> I remember there was a time, when Anwar Maqsood was asked to not to write a
> scene where a brother and sister were supposed to be shot in a room with no
> one else present there.
>
> Today, the situation has changed a lot – we need to think upon the customs
> our Television channels are preaching.
>
> We don’t want to hinder the concept of enlightened moderation, however, when
> such moderation is causing the mental and physical health of our youth, it
> should be questioned by authority concerned, i.e. PEMRA.
>
> I got this email from Imran, and I am posting it the way it was.
>

> *You might have heard about the channel ARY MUSIK – they are telecasting a


> program named “Living on the edge”. This is one of the the most under-valued
> programs ever produced in Pakistan. The host of the show asks girls to do
> in-appropriate and below the social value things on camera to prove that

> they are daring.*
>
> *You can check all the videos on you tube. Moreover in the last season of


> 2008/2009 he asked contestants of the show to eat cockroaches. We Muslims
> are strictly prohibited to eat HARAM Things and this is the height of sins
> that a TV host should be asking Muslims to do – that too in front of camera.

> *


>
> Moreover there is a music channel named OYE TV owned by EYE TELEVIS ION
> NETWORKS PAKISTAN who also own famous HUM TV and cooking channel MAsala TV.
> The Channel openly telecasts songs in which girls highly expose themselves
> and kiss in front of Pakistani Audience.
>
> I request everyone to lodge complaints against all these bad media people
> who are ready to go to any extent for earning money.
>
> We as Pakistanis can only raise our voice and let the authorities know about
> the issues.
>

> Article taken from ProPakistani -http://propakistani.pk
> URL to article:http://propakistani.pk/2010/02/15/vulgar-tv-shows-and-our-hampering-v...

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Hello Maliha,
You are very much right regarding the vulgar TV shows. Actually our people are just sitting to criticize to an un-productive way. We should first ask that what is our culture? Or what is the meaning of culture? Is it right to watch Indian movies or Indian songs? But when a Pakistani tried to compete in a decent manner, they all tried to pull his legs. They all are having dual personality. They can only criticize. The best thing is to come forward and make some cultured stuff if they can. Otherwise they should keep their mouth shut.

Asim Islam | Coordinator
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On Feb 15, 10:51?pm, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values*
>
> Posted By Aamir Attaa On February 15, 2010 (1:43 pm) In
> Media<http://propakistani.pk/category/industry/media/>
>
> Islamic Republic of Pakistan is the name of country we live in. This country
> has its own social values and norms that 99.8 percent of the population
> strictly follows.
>
> I remember there was a time, when Anwar Maqsood was asked to not to write a
> scene where a brother and sister were supposed to be shot in a room with no
> one else present there.
>

> Today, the situation has changed a lot ? we need to think upon the customs


> our Television channels are preaching.
>

> We don?t want to hinder the concept of enlightened moderation, however, when


> such moderation is causing the mental and physical health of our youth, it
> should be questioned by authority concerned, i.e. PEMRA.
>
> I got this email from Imran, and I am posting it the way it was.
>

> *You might have heard about the channel ARY MUSIK ? they are telecasting a
> program named ?Living on the edge?. This is one of the the most under-valued


> programs ever produced in Pakistan. The host of the show asks girls to do
> in-appropriate and below the social value things on camera to prove that
> they are daring.*
>
> *You can check all the videos on you tube. Moreover in the last season of
> 2008/2009 he asked contestants of the show to eat cockroaches. We Muslims
> are strictly prohibited to eat HARAM Things and this is the height of sins

> that a TV host should be asking Muslims to do ? that too in front of camera.


> *
>
> Moreover there is a music channel named OYE TV owned by EYE TELEVIS ION
> NETWORKS PAKISTAN who also own famous HUM TV and cooking channel MAsala TV.
> The Channel openly telecasts songs in which girls highly expose themselves
> and kiss in front of Pakistani Audience.
>
> I request everyone to lodge complaints against all these bad media people
> who are ready to go to any extent for earning money.
>
> We as Pakistanis can only raise our voice and let the authorities know about
> the issues.
>
> Article taken from ProPakistani -http://propakistani.pk
> URL to article:http://propakistani.pk/2010/02/15/vulgar-tv-shows-and-our-hampering-v...

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Just a QUESTION TO ALL


to all who r so called MUSLIMS and followers of our culture and Watch
Indian and other MOVIES every day or every week day , talk to Na-
Mehram saying that yaar its ok Islam is a flexible religion so we can
adjust as we need plz answer this

“IF THERE WAS NO Vj Waqar or LIVING ON THE EDGE , our youth would have
been not dating ? not kissing in public as it happens at Sea side area
of KHI? or in Gardens of LHR?

If there was no Vj Waqar or Living on the edge do u think our Fashion
shows , vulgur PUNJABI MOVIE SONGS were making a great impact on the
youth of PAKISTAN and the entire WORLD? have u ever heard the Punjabi
songs wording, has any one thought wht kind of impact that has on the
INDIAN PUNJABIS LISTEN TO IT?

If there was no Vj Waqar or living on the edge do u think our YOUTH
was not involved in DRUGS or illegal CAR RACING or TEASING GIRLS ON
THE ROAD and asking the girls standing at BUS STOP FOR LIFT SHIT?

If there was no VJ Waqar or living on the edge do u think ppl living
outside Pakistan and youngesters have started Following ISLAM
properly ?

the Answer is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

but if Vj Waqar was not there ,

we would have Vjs who r senseless , always making fun of their live
callers in their live shows having no objective , having no aim, we
would have shows which were not appealing to the youth of Pakistan at
all

cuz of Vj Waqar we have shows like XPOSED which is a lesson for all
the TV HOST that instead of just doing discusssions or verbal shit
they can bring a change by helping the individuals on practically
basis.

cuz of Vj Waqar we have the first ever reality show of Pakistan , the
place where we can show our daring talent NOW ITS ABT TO THE
CONTESTANT wht he or she do when Vj Waqar ask “KIA HIMMAT WALA KAM AP
KARSATEY HAIN?” there is no definition of a DARE , check any
dictionary or anywhere

So I am waiting for your answers plz

Syed Maliha
LHR


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Kalbe Ali

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Dear all,
There is one thing that we all need to keep in mind, there are many many channels available at one time, why is the whole family watching that objectionable thing together, we never talk about watching cooking program and cartoons with children or discuss discovery channel in the house thats our internal problem.
Kalbe Ali     

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Haris Khan

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I agree with sister maliha.

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Irrespective of the country and religion,we must abide by the five letter word "limit" which is very much the function of the prescribed socio-cultural and socio-religious norms in the society and is embedded in the social structure.If we act within the norms,values will automatically be followed and transmitted through generations
 
Sometimes, and quite often nowadays,we see ,that in the name of openness and false enlightenment,it is naked dance of vulgarity and cheap comedy
 
 
 
Thanking you,
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Afzal Khan Tahir

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Mr. Ali, you have a point but I would like to add that one must clear on the question of Vulgar. What is vulgar? The changes are not always an improvement and an improvement is always a change. There fore improvement in any aspect of life, some time create reaction and difficult to digest by some members of the society. The phrase with family, in my view,  is a reflection of feudal culture. What do we mean by family? Nucleus or extended? In a nucleus family unit;  husband, wife and may be two children. We all know that adult and children don't go together. They both have different choices. Children would watch the program specifically made for children, not for adults. Those who don't like the program, simply don't watch it.  Why they are trying to impose their version of choice on others who don't have problem and yet in demand to watch it. It is up to the producers because they would produce according to the market need. 
Afzal Tahir


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Khushnood ali Khan

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do you really mean it


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maliha sabah

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I agree with u BUT who is settling "LIMITS"

U , me , culture , religion ? wht is the system we r following to have this word "LIMIT" implemented.

Is it really LIMITS or our acceptance cuz of which we can accept fashion shows, dramas, movies but we r not willing to accept VJ Waqar Zaka's LIVING ON THE EDGE cuz its too shocking and in order to cover our own acceptance level we r bringing the word Vulguar for him and his shows ?  

maliha sabah

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totally agree with Kalbe Ali,

there r above 100 channels, out of all y we PAKISTANIS want to watch LIVING ON THE EDGE type masala or VJ Waqar Zaka's actions or y even on youtube ? y don't we watch QTV only if we really want to LIVE OUR LIFE AS TRUE MUSLIM and still wanna watch TV , so y we forget that we as MUSLIMS have the option to switch the channel and stick to QTV only?

The point is its our inter wish to get excited when we watch people like VJ Waqar Zaka and LIVING ON THE EDGE type shows cuz thats the main factor for any entertainment show that public should give attention to it either in gud or bad way, if Living on the edge was not there , we must have been talking abt some other thing like Nachley that y we have dancing shows in Pakistan that is also not our CULTURE and that is against ISLAMIC LAWS bla bla?

So in short VJ Waqar Zaka is our industry's Jerry's who is making shows to force the Pakistani audience to take out time and discuss it.

Lets face it out of young tv hosts and tv shows what we have interesting? nothing except VJ Waqar Zaka and LIVING ON THE EDGE

so take entertainment as entertainment dont mix it with culture and Islam cuz if thats the case then plz switch urself first to ISLAM

syed Ahmed

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Yes, we do mean it that shamelessless begets more shamelessness that tears off the fabric of our morals, and thats why Shaikh Sa'di told, BEY HAYA BAASH, HAR CHE KHAWAHI KUN meaning  'once you become shameless then do whatever you like', for in that case there would be no limit of the depth of your moral degredence leading to a pigs' life.


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Media Touch

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Now our topic of Vulgar TV shows has been changed to LIMIT that has vast meanings in different kind of subjects but one thing is clear the NO ONE SHOULD CROSS HIS/HER LIMIT in any cirsumstances he is living or working. 
 
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Sanaullah Bhutta

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Dear All,
AoA,
Allah the Mighty has prescribed the limits in Quran. Study the  Islam and follow Hazard Muhammad PBUH
Best wishes,
Sanaullah Bhutta

TEJINDER SINGH

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The topic of what is "vulgar" and what is "acceptable" varies from coast to coast.

In Asia including India and Pakistan, I have seen "show of skin" as enticing and a sign of "openness" imported from the West.

There is a marked difference in what showbiz including Hollywood and other ad avenues in the West project as "acceptable" and what one actually sees as "acceptable."

Here in the US, there are different categories of shows and the TVs and computer input mechanisms are equipped with "parental control."

Two words that have never been exposed to the Asian audience are "White Trash." These are used to offer to people with White Skin but with degrading and vulgar values.

Some of what goes on in Asia in the name of openness is NOT acceptable when it comes to personal levels in the West.

I have always had a reversion to "Desi" people in the West as these Desis try to imitate the White Trash and take it back to India and Pakistan projecting those values as the Western values.

  
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maliha sabah

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Vulgar TV SHOWS or limits

AYESHA

who is defining these limits first tell me that ISLAM OR U ? if ISLAM then y u r not protesting against shutting down all entertainment channel? y only LIVING ON THE EDGE?> is there any way that u can say that ISLAM says all is ok but LIVING ON THE EDGE and Waqar is only the wrong factors?
GROW UP

Rasheed Khalid

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We can always find Mr Objections whatever the topic. Is it not better to
stop this fazool bahas? We have many other things to do. I am fed up with
deleting emails on this topic. RK

maliha sabah

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@Sanaullah

So according to wht u said, DO U THINK THERE SHOULD BE TV CHANNELS as
per the Laws of ISLAM? if not then its ok , if yes then wht makes u
think that u can bring ISLAM only in case of Waqar Zaka?

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> Dear All,
> AoA,
> Allah the Mighty has prescribed the limits in Quran. Study the  Islam and
> follow Hazard Muhammad PBUH
> Best wishes,
> Sanaullah Bhutta
>

> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:13 PM, maliha sabah <maliha1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I agree with u BUT who is settling "LIMITS"
>
> > U , me , culture , religion ? wht is the system we r following to have this
> > word "LIMIT" implemented.
>
> > Is it really LIMITS or our acceptance cuz of which we can accept fashion
> > shows, dramas, movies but we r not willing to accept VJ Waqar Zaka's LIVING
> > ON THE EDGE cuz its too shocking and in order to cover our own acceptance
> > level we r bringing the word Vulguar for him and his shows ?
>

> > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 12:20 PM, bishwajeet singh <rbishwaj...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Irrespective of the country and religion,we must abide by the five letter
> >> word "limit" which is very much the function of the prescribed
> >> socio-cultural and socio-religious norms in the society and is embedded in
> >> the social structure.If we act within the norms,values will automatically be
> >> followed and transmitted through generations
>
> >> Sometimes, and quite often nowadays,we see ,that in the name of openness
> >> and false enlightenment,it is naked dance of vulgarity and cheap comedy
>
> >> Thanking you,
> >> Bishwajeet
>

> >> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Haris Khan <ajaa1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I agree with sister maliha.
>

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I agree with you Kalbe that we have the choice of swiching the channel promoting any such thing....
 

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@Rasheed

May I know when this topic was started , y it was not closed at that
time, Im not the biggest fan of Waqar Zaka or his shows but lemme tell
u i have a feeling that whenever there's something happening in our
media we try to discourage it to the most, like ATIF ASLAM ppl started
to hate him like anything and after he came back from India now luk
the indians r taking me in but there many singers who oppose him and
hate him like hell , thats the same case with Waqar zaka here , the
point is NO HOST IS BETTER THAN HE IS, y lemme give logical
explanation and this is important not some non-objective discussion, i
use to watch his shows with full interest but after this discussion u
saw episodes again and again to c if im wrong or the topic starter

Lets see, WHAT IS THE YOUTH OF PAKISTAN WANTS?

They have access to everything so why they go for Waqar Zaka ?

the simple reason is that he speaks wht they wanna hear , hes making
wht they really want to see ya thats rite

and y no one is talking that this Guy is the only who is telling in
this shows again and again THAT URDU BOLO, cant we c this msg ?
atleast he is reminding us the importance of URDU for the future
generation which no other host is doing they r concerned more in their
own MTV style lingo,

I feel the youth of Pakistan wants RAW ACTION which Waqar Zaka is
giving.

and how can we forget that Waqar zaka is running XPOSED too.

so instead of making topic against Waqar Zaka we should have made the
following one

"WHY PAKISTANI TV CHANNELS R RUNNING INDIAN SHOWS when they should be
making shows like LIVING ON THE EDGE and create hosts like Waqar ZAKA,
I can bet they buy it from India , so WHY GEO AND ARY has no sense wht
so ever and they r buying shows from INDIA?

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LIMITS are always be defined either by the Islam or Society, we are here just to obey them in order to adjust ourself in middle of some where.

 
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samina ansari

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yes i agree with Rasheed why get into fazool things . we should do something concrete to change the systems
 
and work towards saving our beloved Homeland/
 

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Afzal Khan Tahir

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@Maliha/Sanaullah:  There is nothing called Islamic law in today's term and originally it never called such a thing in history. In history when religion use to be a force of political power and used by authoritarian rulers such as  Kings and Queens by using sacred books and historical traditions by backward projection, in the name of sacred personalities and called it scriptural laws and divinely origin: such as Jewish law, Christian laws, Hindus laws and Muslim laws.
All the traditional laws known as religious laws have evolved over the centuries development and in today's terms merge into state law in the shape of constitutional or case laws by courts.
To argue in today's terms and many do including Muslims, Jewish, Christians and Hindus and identify it as scriptural laws, but in fact in today's term, no laws can be entertain at the state level if such laws do carry an element of discrimination against any member of the society. There fore one can not call it laws of the scripture but morals and ethics of religion, if good for a society would be an additional bonus to state law and if not good, can not be entertained by state system.
The state is an inclusive institution limited itself to a geographical proximity, providing servicing to all citizens of the state regardless of their religion, gender, color, race or ethnic origin, where as religion is exclusive and international in nature, can not be confined to a geographical proximity.
The sectarian mindset in Pakistan which is the result of a system of indoctrination rather than education of society scientifically,  is the problem of the presently on-going-turmoil and would continue until the eduction of society at large would not shift from dogmatic perception into scientific behavior. http://www.unitedkashmir.org.uk/islam.html

Afzal Tahir

 

----- Original Message ----
From: maliha sabah <malih...@gmail.com>

maliha sabah

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@Afzal Tahir

Totally agreed , but this is off the discussion but again really
impressive input, the question is y we r not protesting about the
following ?

Should PAKISTANI TV CHANNELS be allowed to run INDIAN TV SHOWS when
they have promising shows in PAKISTAN ? e.g. ARY has TERAY MERAY BICHA
MEI & FEAR FACTOR INDIA now whats the use to running this show when
the same show is coming on India Channel which are also available on
our cable and more over we have LIVING ON THE EDGE? Indians are not
even willing to show our TV Channels in their Country but our TV
Channels clearly showing that oh we need INDIAN SHOWS, Is this a gud
act from our entertainment World ?.

On Mar 16, 2:00 pm, Afzal Khan Tahir <unitedkashmirjour...@yahoo.com>
wrote:


> @Maliha/Sanaullah:  There is nothing called Islamic law in today's term and originally it never called such a thing in history. In history when religion use to be a force of political power and used by authoritarian rulers such as  Kings and Queens by using sacred books and historical traditions by backward projection, in the name of sacred personalities and called it scriptural laws and divinely origin: such as Jewish law, Christian laws, Hindus laws and Muslim laws.
> All the traditional laws known as religious laws have evolved over the centuries development and in today's terms merge into state law in the shape of constitutional or case laws by courts.
> To argue in today's terms and many do including Muslims, Jewish, Christians and Hindus and identify it as scriptural laws, but in fact in today's term, no laws can be entertain at the state level if such laws do carry an element of discrimination against any member of the society. There fore one can not call it laws of the scripture but morals and ethics of religion, if good for a society would be an additional bonus to state law and if not good, can not be entertained by state system.
> The state is an inclusive institution limited itself to a geographical proximity, providing servicing to all citizens of the state regardless of their religion, gender, color, race or ethnic origin, where as religion is exclusive and international in nature, can not be confined to a geographical proximity.

> The sectarian mindset in Pakistan which is the result of a system of indoctrination rather than education of society scientifically,  is the problem of the presently on-going-turmoil and would continue until the eduction of society at large would not shift from dogmatic perception into scientific behavior.http://www.unitedkashmir.org.uk/islam.html

> ...
>
> read more »

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biggest example of reverse culture shock.
grow up!

Imran Shah

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Good Maliha baji--government should also ponder over stopping the adds of telecommunication companies first of all at PTV, which are initiative of promulgating irrelevatn culture in our society. In tele comapanies our chidren and youth are being misguided in a planned way,,for example,,Ab kro lambi bat sari rat,,. And night and day packages are just hell n waste of time...our youth studying especially in medical, engineering and in other fields is also caught through these futile packages..plz do campaign for the stoppage of packages. As these packages have also created bad and harrassing environment in society besides promulgating and promulgating 'lie' with the start of a phrase" ji kis ka number ha sory main ne apne dost kashif se bat krni thi' os k bad ik sms ka silsla start hota ha asa ka bas. I also a story got published in The Post two years ago but after that no concret efforts were shown by mediamen under the fear of stoppage of advertisements. I think so...Imran.
   

--- On Tue, 3/16/10, Media Touch <media...@yahoo.com> wrote:

maliha sabah

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@Imran

Simply answer this

"Pakistani channels and specially sponsors like Djuice etc should be BANNED for supporting INDIAN SHOWS ON PAKISTANI CHANNEL, YES OR NO? when indian shows r already running on indian channels which are coming on ur screen then Y Pakistani channels r also promoting the same shows on Pakistani channels showing as if they r so happening, we never had an Award shows our self we use during INDUS MUSIC time but no channel is doing awards for Pakistani music thats lame and same is the case of this topic started that of saying that remove fear factor india and promote LIVING ON THE EDGE we r saying that stop LIVING ON THE EDGE how lame

aamir attaa

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All those advocating "Living on the Edge", care watching this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOx7F2MO4V4

This is enough for us to stop the discussion here, if we can't get the show banned

maliha sabah

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Ammir Atta MR. Attention Seeker , unlike U I never try to post
anything until I am completely sure about the event or act , I do my
research , now prove me wrong or just shutdown ur so called web
propakistani for which u r seeking attention here.
The Video u r talking abt is from Faisalabad Agricultural University
which I confirmed my self by calling at their faculty and u can do the
same too instead of writing without reasoning.

Here is the LINK ask them was Vj Waqar there or not and is this clip
real or not they will tell u
http://www.uaf.edu.pk/

Next this GUY in the video who is claiming that he has done that SIN ,
got into JAIL which I confirmed from the University and it’s a one
year old case, we should appreciate Vj Waqar for showing that there
are people in Pakistan who think that they can even get away with such
horrifying acts and it is because of him that the student got
rusticated from the University, as confirmed by Directorate of
Academics, Rashid Ahmad, oh now u will say Vj Waqar is paying him too
to say all this rite?

And here is the real deal this so called propakistani, Ammir Atta,
if u were true and were on the right side you should not have banned
and removed my comments from your own web, so called propakistani web,
and it’s clear that all u r doing is to get ATTENTION FOR UR OWN
WEBSITE BY HITTING AT The talk of the town Vj Waqar and living on the
edge, if u were a pro pakistani y there is no effort abt banning
pathetic Paki fashion TV, style 360? is that allowed in ISLAMIC
REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN ? y theres nothing at stopping Indians movies
running on our channels? is THAT ISLAMIC?

Just answer the above and prove me wrong about the Video

Further u picked the video which u think that u can use to make fun of
Vj Waqar , I want everyone to see this Video from the same University
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceaTxK-tb08&feature=PlayList&p=F5B2F7CD9F41EB2D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=6

And atleast appreciate the kind of message Vj Waqar is giving to the
youth through his show.

next y u not even willing to say GUD JOB Vj waqar for starting this
campaign against catching hackers who r misusing pics of girls on
utube and facebook ? who guided us before him about this ?

Watch this and Just write TWO WORDS "GUD JOB" if u cant take Vj Waqar
as a youth icon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgrtVEcN8-E


regards,
Syed Maliha Sabah
LHR

On Mar 22, 6:18 pm, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All those advocating "Living on the Edge", care watching this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOx7F2MO4V4
>
> This is enough for us to stop the discussion here, if we can't get the show
> banned
>

> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:44 PM, maliha sabah <maliha1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > @Imran
>
> > Simply answer this
>
> > "Pakistani channels and specially sponsors like Djuice etc should be BANNED
> > for supporting INDIAN SHOWS ON PAKISTANI CHANNEL, YES OR NO? when indian
> > shows r already running on indian channels which are coming on ur screen
> > then Y Pakistani channels r also promoting the same shows on Pakistani
> > channels showing as if they r so happening, we never had an Award shows our
> > self we use during INDUS MUSIC time but no channel is doing awards for
> > Pakistani music thats lame and same is the case of this topic started that
> > of saying that remove fear factor india and promote LIVING ON THE EDGE we r
> > saying that stop LIVING ON THE EDGE how lame
>

> > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Imran Shah <cuteimrans...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> >>  Good Maliha baji--government should also ponder over stopping the adds
> >> of telecommunication companies first of all at PTV, which are initiative of
> >> promulgating irrelevatn culture in our society. In tele comapanies our
> >> chidren and youth are being misguided in a planned way,,for example,,Ab kro
> >> lambi bat sari rat,,. And night and day packages are just hell n waste of
> >> time...our youth studying especially in medical, engineering and in other
> >> fields is also caught through these futile packages..plz do campaign for the
> >> stoppage of packages. As these packages have also created bad and harrassing
> >> environment in society besides promulgating and promulgating 'lie' with the
> >> start of a phrase" ji kis ka number ha sory main ne apne dost kashif se bat
> >> krni thi' os k bad ik sms ka silsla start hota ha asa ka bas. I also a story
> >> got published in The Post two years ago but after that no concret efforts
> >> were shown by mediamen under the fear of stoppage of advertisements. I think
> >> so...Imran.
>

> >> --- On *Tue, 3/16/10, Media Touch <media.to...@yahoo.com>* wrote:


>
> >> From: Media Touch <media.to...@yahoo.com>
>
> >> Subject: Re: Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values
> >> To: pressp...@googlegroups.com
> >> Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 5:59 AM
>
> >>  LIMITS are always be defined either by the Islam or Society, we are here
> >> just to obey them in order to adjust ourself in middle of some where.
>
> >> Thanks and Regards,

> >> *Ayesha Khalid*
> >> *Business Development Manager*
> >> *MEDIA TOUCH COMMUNICATION*


> >> P-68/78, First Floor, Baluch Plaza,
> >> Near PIA Office, Madina Town,
> >> Susan Road, Faisalabad.
> >> Tel: 041-8711313, Fax : 041-8712377
> >> Mobile: 0321/7888864, 0300-8602506

> >> *To start your success story pls visit our website: **
> >>www.mediatouchcom.com*<http://www.mediatouchcom.com/>
>
> >>  ------------------------------
> >> *From:* maliha sabah <maliha1...@gmail.com>
> >> *To:* pressp...@googlegroups.com
> >> *Sent:* Mon, March 15, 2010 1:05:28 AM
> >> *Subject:* Re: Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values


>
> >> Vulgar TV SHOWS or limits
>
> >> AYESHA
>
> >> who is defining these limits first tell me that ISLAM OR U ? if ISLAM then
> >> y u r not protesting against shutting down all entertainment channel? y only
> >> LIVING ON THE EDGE?> is there any way that u can say that ISLAM says all is
> >> ok but LIVING ON THE EDGE and Waqar is only the wrong factors?
> >> GROW UP
>

> >> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Media Touch <media.to...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=media.to...@yahoo.com>


> >> > wrote:
>
> >>>   Now our topic of Vulgar TV shows has been changed to LIMIT that has
> >>> vast meanings in different kind of subjects but one thing is clear the NO
> >>> ONE SHOULD CROSS HIS/HER LIMIT in any cirsumstances he is living or
> >>> working.
>
> >>> Thanks and Regards,

> >>> *Ayesha Khalid*
> >>> *Business Development Manager*
> >>> *MEDIA TOUCH COMMUNICATION*


> >>> P-68/78, First Floor, Baluch Plaza,
> >>> Near PIA Office, Madina Town,
> >>> Susan Road, Faisalabad.
> >>> Tel: 041-8711313, Fax : 041-8712377
> >>> Mobile: 0321/7888864, 0300-8602506

> >>> *To start your success story pls visit our website: **
> >>>www.mediatouchcom.com*<http://www.mediatouchcom.com/>
>
> >>>  ------------------------------
> >>> *From:* syed Ahmed <qaseem3...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=qaseem3...@yahoo.com>
>
> >>> *To:* pressp...@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=presspakistan@googlegrou...>
> >>> *Sent:* Sun, March 14, 2010 6:50:31 PM
>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values


>
> >>>  Yes, we do mean it that shamelessless begets more shamelessness that
> >>> tears off the fabric of our morals, and thats why Shaikh Sa'di told, BEY
> >>> HAYA BAASH, HAR CHE KHAWAHI KUN meaning  'once you become shameless then do
> >>> whatever you like', for in that case there would be no limit of the depth of
> >>> your moral degredence leading to a pigs' life.
>

> >>>  ------------------------------
> >>> *From:* Khushnood ali Khan <khushnoodalikh...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=khushnoodalikh...@yahoo.com>
>
> >>> *To:* pressp...@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=presspakistan@googlegrou...>
> >>> *Sent:* Sun, March 14, 2010 5:49:05 AM
> >>> *Subject:* Re: Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values


>
> >>>  do you really mean it
>

> >>>  ------------------------------
> >>> *From:* bishwajeet singh <rbishwaj...@gmail.com<http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rbishwaj...@gmail.com>
>
> >>> *To:* pressp...@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=presspakistan@googlegrou...>
> >>> *Sent:* Sun, March 14, 2010 7:20:54 AM
> >>> *Subject:* Re: Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values


>
> >>> Irrespective of the country and religion,we must abide by the five letter
> >>> word "limit" which is very much the function of the prescribed
> >>> socio-cultural and socio-religious norms in the society and is embedded in
> >>> the social structure.If we act within the norms,values will automatically be
> >>> followed and transmitted through generations
>
> >>> Sometimes, and quite often nowadays,we see ,that in the name of openness
> >>> and false enlightenment,it is naked dance of vulgarity and cheap comedy
>
> >>> Thanking you,
> >>> Bishwajeet
>

> >>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Haris Khan <ajaa1...@gmail.com<http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ajaa1...@gmail.com>


> >>> > wrote:
>
> >>>> I agree with sister maliha.
>

> >>>> On 3/12/10, maliha sabah <maliha1...@gmail.com<http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=maliha1...@gmail.com>>

> >>>>> <asim.is...@expressnews.tv<http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=asim.is...@expressnews.tv>>


> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> > Hello Maliha,
> >>>>> >                      You are very much right regarding the vulgar TV
> >>>>> shows. Actually our people are just sitting to criticize to an un-productive
> >>>>> way. We should first ask that what is our culture? Or what is the meaning of
> >>>>> culture? Is it right to watch Indian movies or Indian songs? But when a
> >>>>> Pakistani tried to compete in a decent manner, they all tried to pull his
> >>>>> legs. They all are having dual personality. They can only criticize. The
> >>>>> best thing is to come forward and make some cultured stuff if they can.
> >>>>> Otherwise they should keep their mouth shut.
>
> >>>>> > Asim Islam | Coordinator
> >>>>> > Television Media Network | By-Pass Road, Rahim Yar Khan, Pakistan
> >>>>> > Cell: +92-302-8677625 |
>

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>
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Tayyab Gilani

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Hello Miss maliha, what do u think the VJ waqar is doing something good.. ! He is just spreading the vulgarity and his activities will be seriously harmful for the young generation..

Here is the link and watch it out what he is doing n then answer me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuVKjt6ez_0&feature=PlayList&p=F5B2F7CD9F41EB2D&index=7&playnext=2&playnext_from=PL


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maliha sabah

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@Tayyab & ANTI-WAQAR ZAKA people

if Vj Waqar was not making these shows do u think our youth would have
not been in drugs, dating , street crime ? and would have been living
a free social life?
PLZ GROW UP
Y u r not replying to the questions y u r not asking and coming up
with new points:) , is this some kind of propaganda against Vj Waqar
lolz ? lemme know i will back out from the discussion cuz now its like
u ppl r not willing to accept the positive things VJ Waqar is doing
and creating negative things out of the positive ones.

Vj Waqar is a Market TREND SETTER not a follower, many channels r
trying to make shows like Vj Waqar is doing , saw a very lame copy of
his on a Sindi channel, but its his content / approach which is so
strong that its forcing all of us to discuss him more and more , we
all have the option of not watching his shows but we cant ignore him
and lets be honest after all we r PAKISTANIS and we can never ever
appreciate stuff created by our own people whether its showbiz or any
other field. If Afridi helps the team in winning the World Cup u wont
going to appreciate that for a longer period but if he has done
something wrong in the ground U media ppl will try to do everything to
destroy his respect.

That's the same case with Vj Waqar, im not his biggest fan but i
appreciate the work / efforts hes putting in to attract the Pakistani
viewer which only the NEWS channels are doing by showing all the bad
sides of our nation.

Is there any TV host out there who is attracting the youth like he is?
NO , believe it or not but Vj Waqar clicks with our youth and he is
the present YOUTH ICON of our Nation & plz compare him with any
present or past Vj he is more connected with the youth and all Vjs of
youth channels r running lame looser attitude type shows, which no one
is even willing to watch for a minute.

Now if u really want to bring a change "Y U R NOT SAYING THAT SHOULD
PAKISTANI TV CHANNELS BE ALLOWED TO RUN INDIAN MOVIES AND TV SHOWS
WHEN INDIANS ARE NOT EVEN ALLOWING OUR TV CHANNELS TO GO ON AIR IN
THEIR COUNTRY?"

or we should start a topic Youth TV Channels should try to bring ppl
like Vj Waqar instead of model luking like loosers who appear on TV
just to act MTV Style cool and have no knowledge how to speak the
language of our youth.

On Mar 25, 11:52 am, Tayyab Gilani <gilanial...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Miss maliha, what do u think the VJ waqar is doing something good.. ! He is just spreading the vulgarity and his activities will be seriously harmful for the young generation..
>
> Here is the link and watch it out what he is doing n then answer me.
>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuVKjt6ez_0&feature=PlayList&p=F5B2F7C...


>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:12:53 -0700
> > Subject: Re: Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values

> > From: maliha1...@gmail.com

> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceaTxK-tb08&feature=PlayList&p=F5B2F7C...

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maliha sabah

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PLZ take entertainment as entertainment, wht will happen if Living on
the edge or Vj Waqar is BANNED? wht benefit we all will get? will our
youth get educated properly? will our youth we be more sensible in
their approach? NO instead we will shutdown the only entertaining show
that our so called youth channels have to offer.

On Mar 25, 11:52 am, Tayyab Gilani <gilanial...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Miss maliha, what do u think the VJ waqar is doing something good.. ! He is just spreading the vulgarity and his activities will be seriously harmful for the young generation..
>
> Here is the link and watch it out what he is doing n then answer me.
>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuVKjt6ez_0&feature=PlayList&p=F5B2F7C...


>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:12:53 -0700
> > Subject: Re: Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values

> > From: maliha1...@gmail.com

> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceaTxK-tb08&feature=PlayList&p=F5B2F7C...

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Munir Ahmed

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a cheap way to publicity of a particular show, and we all are contributing out bit.
re
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Imran A. Asim

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Totally agree with Munir Sb. People seem to have so much time for non issues like this. Come on guys there are sooo many other important issues that need your professional attention. Its a free world and everyone knows whets best for them. No body is forcing people to watch these shows plus the word "Vulgar" does not even match the topic under discussion. 
 
How about issues for betterment of education, health, civic & human rights etc.
 
Regards,
 
Imran Akhtar Asim   

maliha sabah

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FINALLY THANK GOD some one understood.

Its entertainment and its stupid propaganda against the only those who
is keeping our youth attach to our TV Channels. Its so clear that Amir
ATTA made this entire discussion to get attention for his own website
by hitting at the TALK OF THE TOWN Vj Waqar zaka.

PLZ GROW UP and if u really Care Abt Pakistan & Pakistani MEDIA ,
attempt right now that u were wrong abt VJ Waqar zaka and start a
protest against brands and tv channels running Indian shows.

and Seriously talking PLZ these so called youth or music channels,
shutdown these lame LIVE CALL IN SHOWS which r senseless, find ppl
like Vj Waqar & most important u must DO MUSIC AWARDS, Indus Music
should continue with Awards, why Indus Music stopped having awards?

On Mar 26, 1:03 pm, "Imran A. Asim" <im...@spectrumyr.com> wrote:
> Totally agree with Munir Sb. People seem to have so much time for non issues like this. Come on guys there are sooo many other important issues that need your professional attention. Its a free world and everyone knows whets best for them. No body is forcing people to watch these shows plus the word "Vulgar" does not even match the topic under discussion.
>
> How about issues for betterment of education, health, civic & human rights etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> Imran Akhtar Asim  
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Munir Ahmed
>   To: pressp...@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:54 AM
>   Subject: Re: Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values
>
>   a cheap way to publicity of a particular show, and we all are contributing out bit.
>   re
>

>   On 25 March 2010 11:52, Tayyab Gilani <gilanial...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Hello Miss maliha, what do u think the VJ waqar is doing something good.. ! He is just spreading the vulgarity and his activities will be seriously harmful for the young generation..
>
>     Here is the link and watch it out what he is doing n then answer me.
>

>    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuVKjt6ez_0&feature=PlayList&p=F5B2F7C...


>
>     ------------------------------------------------
>
>     > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:12:53 -0700
>     > Subject: Re: Vulgar TV Shows and our Hampering Values

>     > From: maliha1...@gmail.com

>     >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceaTxK-tb08&feature=PlayList&p=F5B2F7C...

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