- new files on C: drive
- old folders meticulously added from external G: drive
- moved G: drive to be a virtual drive on my network ( SUBST G: M:
\Vritual_G )
(with proper shutdown and restart of the drives)
- start up Picasa... no G drive folders (should be hundreds) - I don't
understand this, is it using more to identify the path than just the
drive letter (e.g. using the volume label)
- shutdown, set up old G: drive again
- start up Picasa... no G: drive folders
So has Picasa forgotten about all those carefully added folders?
Because if so that's unacceptable for a photo organiser.
I can understand if for some reason it can't find a drive or folders,
then it doesn't DISPLAY them, but it's crazy if it then deletes any
memory of them from its setup files, without any warning to the user.
If this is the case, Picasa has just lost me an entire day's worth of
work.
(Yes, I understand the files are still there, but I will have to go in
all over again and add folders - I can't just have it rescan the
entire drive because there are many thousands of duplicate files in
various folders.)
Picasa will not throw away the data base entries for photos on an
external drive if that drive is not present a startup. If it finds
the drive but cannot locate the photos on the drive it will assume the
files have been deleted and remove them from its data base.
I have been able to successfully scan an external drive, move that
drive to another computer. map it as a network drive of the same
letter, restart Picasa and it finds all the files as if the drive was
local. I don't know why your "virtual drive" didn't work.
I don''t know what you mean by "meticulously adding folders" do you
mean Picasa albums. Any folder structure you set up should still be
present on your hard drive.
> - new files on C: drive
> - old folders meticulously added from external G: drive
> - moved G: drive to be a virtual drive on my network ( SUBST G: M:
> \Vritual_G )
> (with proper shutdown and restart of the drives)
> - start up Picasa... no G drive folders (should be hundreds) - I don't
> understand this, is it using more to identify the path than just the
> drive letter (e.g. using the volume label)
> - shutdown, set up old G: drive again
> - start up Picasa... no G: drive folders
> So has Picasa forgotten about all those carefully added folders?
> Because if so that's unacceptable for a photo organiser.
> I can understand if for some reason it can't find a drive or folders,
> then it doesn't DISPLAY them, but it's crazy if it then deletes any
> memory of them from its setup files, without any warning to the user.
> If this is the case, Picasa has just lost me an entire day's worth of
> work.
> (Yes, I understand the files are still there, but I will have to go in
> all over again and add folders - I can't just have it rescan the
> entire drive because there are many thousands of duplicate files in
> various folders.)
I mean folders. Picasa Library Folders. I don't use albums. To put
something into Picasa from my backup drive, I used File->Add Folder to
Picasa->Scan Once, with only particular folders selected (since the
others are duplicates, backups, or scratch folders). The folders are
of course still on my hard drive, but no longer in the Picasa Library.
> Picasa will not throw away the data base entries for photos on an
> external drive if that drive is not present a startup. If it finds
> the drive but cannot locate the photos on the drive it will assume the
> files have been deleted and remove them from its data base.
> I have been able to successfully scan an external drive, move that
> drive to another computer. map it as a network drive of the same
> letter, restart Picasa and it finds all the files as if the drive was
> local. I don't know why your "virtual drive" didn't work.
> I don''t know what you mean by "meticulously adding folders" do you
> mean Picasa albums. Any folder structure you set up should still be
> present on your hard drive.
> On Jan 24, 9:17 pm, rakerman wrote:
> > Here's my scenario:
> > - new files on C: drive
> > - old folders meticulously added from external G: drive
> > - moved G: drive to be a virtual drive on my network ( SUBST G: M:
> > \Vritual_G )
> > (with proper shutdown and restart of the drives)
> > - start up Picasa... no G drive folders (should be hundreds) - I don't
> > understand this, is it using more to identify the path than just the
> > drive letter (e.g. using the volume label)
> > - shutdown, set up old G: drive again
> > - start up Picasa... no G: drive folders
> > So has Picasa forgotten about all those carefully added folders?
> > Because if so that's unacceptable for a photo organiser.
> > I can understand if for some reason it can't find a drive or folders,
> > then it doesn't DISPLAY them, but it's crazy if it then deletes any
> > memory of them from its setup files, without any warning to the user.
> > If this is the case, Picasa has just lost me an entire day's worth of
> > work.
> > (Yes, I understand the files are still there, but I will have to go in
> > all over again and add folders - I can't just have it rescan the
> > entire drive because there are many thousands of duplicate files in
> > various folders.)
You must not use any hierarchy in your folder structure if it took you
a days work just to set up your folder manager!
I suggest you make a quick copy of the Picasa2 and Picasa2albums
folders before experimenting with mapping your drives. That would
allow you to easily recover in case Picasa decides to throw everything
away.
> I mean folders. Picasa Library Folders. I don't use albums. To put
> something into Picasa from my backup drive, I used File->Add Folder to
> Picasa->Scan Once, with only particular folders selected (since the
> others are duplicates, backups, or scratch folders). The folders are
> of course still on my hard drive, but no longer in the Picasa Library.
> It seems to only affect SUBST with a network drive, it works fine if I
> SUBST to my local drive.
> -- r
> On Jan 25, 4:29 am, rcbrown wrote:
> > Picasa will not throw away the data base entries for photos on an
> > external drive if that drive is not present a startup. If it finds
> > the drive but cannot locate the photos on the drive it will assume the
> > files have been deleted and remove them from its data base.
> > I have been able to successfully scan an external drive, move that
> > drive to another computer. map it as a network drive of the same
> > letter, restart Picasa and it finds all the files as if the drive was
> > local. I don't know why your "virtual drive" didn't work.
> > I don''t know what you mean by "meticulously adding folders" do you
> > mean Picasa albums. Any folder structure you set up should still be
> > present on your hard drive.
> > On Jan 24, 9:17 pm, rakerman wrote:
> > > Here's my scenario:
> > > - new files on C: drive
> > > - old folders meticulously added from external G: drive
> > > - moved G: drive to be a virtual drive on my network ( SUBST G: M:
> > > \Vritual_G )
> > > (with proper shutdown and restart of the drives)
> > > - start up Picasa... no G drive folders (should be hundreds) - I don't
> > > understand this, is it using more to identify the path than just the
> > > drive letter (e.g. using the volume label)
> > > - shutdown, set up old G: drive again
> > > - start up Picasa... no G: drive folders
> > > So has Picasa forgotten about all those carefully added folders?
> > > Because if so that's unacceptable for a photo organiser.
> > > I can understand if for some reason it can't find a drive or folders,
> > > then it doesn't DISPLAY them, but it's crazy if it then deletes any
> > > memory of them from its setup files, without any warning to the user.
> > > If this is the case, Picasa has just lost me an entire day's worth of
> > > work.
> > > (Yes, I understand the files are still there, but I will have to go in
> > > all over again and add folders - I can't just have it rescan the
> > > entire drive because there are many thousands of duplicate files in
> > > various folders.)
There are ten thousand digital photos, covering four years of
photography and backups of four different computers on my external
drive. This includes multiple backup copies, colour-adjusted
versions, versions for digital photo frames, directories of photos to
go for photo printing, and many other variations. Maybe you have a
folder structure that can cross thousands of copies of thousands of
photos across four computers and four years and still uniquely
identify only the original versions of files, but I don't.
Given Picasa's unfortunate silent Library deletion behavior, I will
definitely be backing up the Picasa database before making any changes
in future.
> You must not use any hierarchy in your folder structure if it took you
> a days work just to set up your folder manager!
> I suggest you make a quick copy of the Picasa2 and Picasa2albums
> folders before experimenting with mapping your drives. That would
> allow you to easily recover in case Picasa decides to throw everything
> away.
> On Jan 25, 9:07 am, rakerman wrote:
> > I mean folders. Picasa Library Folders. I don't use albums. To put
> > something into Picasa from my backup drive, I used File->Add Folder to
> > Picasa->Scan Once, with only particular folders selected (since the
> > others are duplicates, backups, or scratch folders). The folders are
> > of course still on my hard drive, but no longer in the Picasa Library.
> > It seems to only affect SUBST with a network drive, it works fine if I
> > SUBST to my local drive.
> > -- r
> > On Jan 25, 4:29 am, rcbrown wrote:
> > > Picasa will not throw away the data base entries for photos on an
> > > external drive if that drive is not present a startup. If it finds
> > > the drive but cannot locate the photos on the drive it will assume the
> > > files have been deleted and remove them from its data base.
> > > I have been able to successfully scan an external drive, move that
> > > drive to another computer. map it as a network drive of the same
> > > letter, restart Picasa and it finds all the files as if the drive was
> > > local. I don't know why your "virtual drive" didn't work.
> > > I don''t know what you mean by "meticulously adding folders" do you
> > > mean Picasa albums. Any folder structure you set up should still be
> > > present on your hard drive.
> > > On Jan 24, 9:17 pm, rakerman wrote:
> > > > Here's my scenario:
> > > > - new files on C: drive
> > > > - old folders meticulously added from external G: drive
> > > > - moved G: drive to be a virtual drive on my network ( SUBST G: M:
> > > > \Vritual_G )
> > > > (with proper shutdown and restart of the drives)
> > > > - start up Picasa... no G drive folders (should be hundreds) - I don't
> > > > understand this, is it using more to identify the path than just the
> > > > drive letter (e.g. using the volume label)
> > > > - shutdown, set up old G: drive again
> > > > - start up Picasa... no G: drive folders
> > > > So has Picasa forgotten about all those carefully added folders?
> > > > Because if so that's unacceptable for a photo organiser.
> > > > I can understand if for some reason it can't find a drive or folders,
> > > > then it doesn't DISPLAY them, but it's crazy if it then deletes any
> > > > memory of them from its setup files, without any warning to the user.
> > > > If this is the case, Picasa has just lost me an entire day's worth of
> > > > work.
> > > > (Yes, I understand the files are still there, but I will have to go in
> > > > all over again and add folders - I can't just have it rescan the
> > > > entire drive because there are many thousands of duplicate files in
> > > > various folders.)
I don't fully understand your problem so forgive me for sticking my
nose into your business. It seems like you are defeating one of the
main purposes of Picasa, photo organization, by doing your
organization with the folder manager. Why not scan all your photos
into Picasa? You have a relatively small number of photos and Picasa
can easily accommodate them. You could then use albums and keywords
to sort out the various flavors of your photos.
> There are ten thousand digital photos, covering four years of
> photography and backups of four different computers on my external
> drive. This includes multiple backup copies, colour-adjusted
> versions, versions for digital photo frames, directories of photos to
> go for photo printing, and many other variations. Maybe you have a
> folder structure that can cross thousands of copies of thousands of
> photos across four computers and four years and still uniquely
> identify only the original versions of files, but I don't.
> Given Picasa's unfortunate silent Library deletion behavior, I will
> definitely be backing up the Picasa database before making any changes
> in future.
> -- Richard Akerman
> On Jan 25, 10:43 am, rcbrown wrote:
> > You must not use any hierarchy in your folder structure if it took you
> > a days work just to set up your folder manager!
> > I suggest you make a quick copy of the Picasa2 and Picasa2albums
> > folders before experimenting with mapping your drives. That would
> > allow you to easily recover in case Picasa decides to throw everything
> > away.
> > On Jan 25, 9:07 am, rakerman wrote:
> > > I mean folders. Picasa Library Folders. I don't use albums. To put
> > > something into Picasa from my backup drive, I used File->Add Folder to
> > > Picasa->Scan Once, with only particular folders selected (since the
> > > others are duplicates, backups, or scratch folders). The folders are
> > > of course still on my hard drive, but no longer in the Picasa Library.
> > > It seems to only affect SUBST with a network drive, it works fine if I
> > > SUBST to my local drive.
> > > -- r
> > > On Jan 25, 4:29 am, rcbrown wrote:
> > > > Picasa will not throw away the data base entries for photos on an
> > > > external drive if that drive is not present a startup. If it finds
> > > > the drive but cannot locate the photos on the drive it will assume the
> > > > files have been deleted and remove them from its data base.
> > > > I have been able to successfully scan an external drive, move that
> > > > drive to another computer. map it as a network drive of the same
> > > > letter, restart Picasa and it finds all the files as if the drive was
> > > > local. I don't know why your "virtual drive" didn't work.
> > > > I don''t know what you mean by "meticulously adding folders" do you
> > > > mean Picasa albums. Any folder structure you set up should still be
> > > > present on your hard drive.
> > > > On Jan 24, 9:17 pm, rakerman wrote:
> > > > > Here's my scenario:
> > > > > - new files on C: drive
> > > > > - old folders meticulously added from external G: drive
> > > > > - moved G: drive to be a virtual drive on my network ( SUBST G: M:
> > > > > \Vritual_G )
> > > > > (with proper shutdown and restart of the drives)
> > > > > - start up Picasa... no G drive folders (should be hundreds) - I don't
> > > > > understand this, is it using more to identify the path than just the
> > > > > drive letter (e.g. using the volume label)
> > > > > - shutdown, set up old G: drive again
> > > > > - start up Picasa... no G: drive folders
> > > > > So has Picasa forgotten about all those carefully added folders?
> > > > > Because if so that's unacceptable for a photo organiser.
> > > > > I can understand if for some reason it can't find a drive or folders,
> > > > > then it doesn't DISPLAY them, but it's crazy if it then deletes any
> > > > > memory of them from its setup files, without any warning to the user.
> > > > > If this is the case, Picasa has just lost me an entire day's worth of
> > > > > work.
> > > > > (Yes, I understand the files are still there, but I will have to go in
> > > > > all over again and add folders - I can't just have it rescan the
> > > > > entire drive because there are many thousands of duplicate files in
> > > > > various folders.)
I see the misunderstanding now. I only want a single copy of the
original versions of photos (the files downloaded direct from my
camera) in the Picasa Library. That's about 15,000 photos. When I
work with photos in Picasa, I work directly with them in Folders, I
don't use Albums. As you say, I am trying to defeat Picasa in a way,
because I don't want the other 30,000 or so copies and versions of my
photos showing up in Picasa. So what I will be doing is a complete
rescan of my G: H: and I: backup drives, and then going in manually
and eliminating all the duplicates arising from multiple backups and
versions. The other option as you say would be to use keywords and
Albums to indicate what all the different sets of duplicate photos
are, but I've never worked with my photos in that way.
> I don't fully understand your problem so forgive me for sticking my
> nose into your business. It seems like you are defeating one of the
> main purposes of Picasa, photo organization, by doing your
> organization with the folder manager. Why not scan all your photos
> into Picasa? You have a relatively small number of photos and Picasa
> can easily accommodate them. You could then use albums and keywords
> to sort out the various flavors of your photos.
> On Jan 25, 9:51 am, rakerman wrote:
> > There are ten thousand digital photos, covering four years of
> > photography and backups of four different computers on my external
> > drive. This includes multiple backup copies, colour-adjusted
> > versions, versions for digital photo frames, directories of photos to
> > go for photo printing, and many other variations. Maybe you have a
> > folder structure that can cross thousands of copies of thousands of
> > photos across four computers and four years and still uniquely
> > identify only the original versions of files, but I don't.
> > Given Picasa's unfortunate silent Library deletion behavior, I will
> > definitely be backing up the Picasa database before making any changes
> > in future.
> > -- Richard Akerman
> > On Jan 25, 10:43 am, rcbrown wrote:
> > > You must not use any hierarchy in your folder structure if it took you
> > > a days work just to set up your folder manager!
> > > I suggest you make a quick copy of the Picasa2 and Picasa2albums
> > > folders before experimenting with mapping your drives. That would
> > > allow you to easily recover in case Picasa decides to throw everything
> > > away.
> > > On Jan 25, 9:07 am, rakerman wrote:
> > > > I mean folders. Picasa Library Folders. I don't use albums. To put
> > > > something into Picasa from my backup drive, I used File->Add Folder to
> > > > Picasa->Scan Once, with only particular folders selected (since the
> > > > others are duplicates, backups, or scratch folders). The folders are
> > > > of course still on my hard drive, but no longer in the Picasa Library.
> > > > I have written up with more information at
> > > > It seems to only affect SUBST with a network drive, it works fine if I
> > > > SUBST to my local drive.
> > > > -- r
> > > > On Jan 25, 4:29 am, rcbrown wrote:
> > > > > Picasa will not throw away the data base entries for photos on an
> > > > > external drive if that drive is not present a startup. If it finds
> > > > > the drive but cannot locate the photos on the drive it will assume the
> > > > > files have been deleted and remove them from its data base.
> > > > > I have been able to successfully scan an external drive, move that
> > > > > drive to another computer. map it as a network drive of the same
> > > > > letter, restart Picasa and it finds all the files as if the drive was
> > > > > local. I don't know why your "virtual drive" didn't work.
> > > > > I don''t know what you mean by "meticulously adding folders" do you
> > > > > mean Picasa albums. Any folder structure you set up should still be
> > > > > present on your hard drive.
> > > > > On Jan 24, 9:17 pm, rakerman wrote:
> > > > > > Here's my scenario:
> > > > > > - new files on C: drive
> > > > > > - old folders meticulously added from external G: drive
> > > > > > - moved G: drive to be a virtual drive on my network ( SUBST G: M:
> > > > > > \Vritual_G )
> > > > > > (with proper shutdown and restart of the drives)
> > > > > > - start up Picasa... no G drive folders (should be hundreds) - I don't
> > > > > > understand this, is it using more to identify the path than just the
> > > > > > drive letter (e.g. using the volume label)
> > > > > > - shutdown, set up old G: drive again
> > > > > > - start up Picasa... no G: drive folders
> > > > > > So has Picasa forgotten about all those carefully added folders?
> > > > > > Because if so that's unacceptable for a photo organiser.
> > > > > > I can understand if for some reason it can't find a drive or folders,
> > > > > > then it doesn't DISPLAY them, but it's crazy if it then deletes any
> > > > > > memory of them from its setup files, without any warning to the user.
> > > > > > If this is the case, Picasa has just lost me an entire day's worth of
> > > > > > work.
> > > > > > (Yes, I understand the files are still there, but I will have to go in
> > > > > > all over again and add folders - I can't just have it rescan the
> > > > > > entire drive because there are many thousands of duplicate files in
> > > > > > various folders.)
> I can understand if for some reason it can't find a drive or folders,
> then it doesn't DISPLAY them, but it's crazy if it then deletes any
> memory of them from its setupfiles, without any warning to the user.
> If this is the case, Picasa has just lost me an entire day's worth of
> work.
> (Yes, I understand thefilesare still there, but I will have to go in
> all over again and add folders - I can't just have it rescan the
> entire drive because there are many thousands of duplicatefilesin
> various folders.)
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