Using a network share, I would like to be able to access my photos in Picasa on two computers. The key is that I would like to be able to edit, make albums, etc. on one computer and those settings are also applied when I open on the other computer. If I simply copy all of my photo folders to the network share and open Picasa on the second computer, will this happen? If not, is there a way to achieve this?
You can search this group for information on this subject... We've had several nice discussions over the past couple of weeks.
Summary of the current state of affairs:
1. You can have multiple PCs seeing/sharing photos on a shared drive (e.g., network mapped). 2. You will be able to share photo edits. (see below) 3. You won't be able to share album definitions without some playing around (see below).
You'll need to configure each Picasa user to watch the appropriate drive. That's done with a Tools -> "Folder Manager..." menu choice in Picasa.
Edits will be sharable because edits live in the picasa.ini files that reside in the same folders as the photos... When Picasa sees the folders and the photos, it will see the picasa.ini file and, thus, the edits.
On network drives, though, there are sometimes long delays (an hour?) before Picasa notices edits. So if you have real-time requirements (edits gotta show up immediately on all computers), you might have a problem.
Sharing album definitions are a bigger problem. Album definitions are always stored on your local computer in the current user's user profiles disk space. So, in general, they're not shared at all.
If you do everything just right, you can manually copy the album definitions from one computer to another and get the other computer's Picasa to recognize the album. I've done it. First thing is that the photos have to live on the same path on both computers... That means that if the photos are on k:\SharedPhotos\vacation on one computer, they gotta be in k:\SharedPhotos\vacation on the other computer. Even the drive letter has to match. This is because the album definitions include the fully-specified file names of all photos in the album...
The problem with synchronizing albums this way is that it's completely a manual task. And, it's not an official, supported thing to be doing with Picasa... Essentially, I'm copying some internal Picasa data files from one computer to an other. This process seems to work with today's version of Picasa. It might stop working at any time if they change their internal implementation of Albums.
Also, if you have multiple people updating albums willy-nilly, you're not going to be able to do much of anything to synchronize the definitions among the computers. Which album definition would you copy to what other machines?
OK, no guarantees... here's what I did...
To move an album definition created by OneGuy from one computer to OtherGuy's logon on another computer, you can just copy its .pal file from the OneGuy user's Picasa area to AnotherGuy's Picasa user area. For example, copy C:\Documents and Settings\OneGuy\Local Settings \Application Data\Google \Picasa2Albums \7dc8ed85289683d3a03851e0ce65b8c2\*.pal to the equivalent location under OtherGuy's ...\Picasa2Albums\<big hex string> directory on the other computer.
Note: the huge hex string in the directory name under Picasa2Albums directory will be different on every computer and every user...
Note: you can carefully open a .pal file to see which album it is... each album is a separate pal file. The album name is visible in the pal file...
I did this and the album definition seemed to be fine.
Actually, I had to edit the .pal file in my case because it came from another user on a different computer. I had all the photos on both computers. But the path where the photos lived was different on my destination machine... A careful notepad "replace" operation adjusted the directory path information for all the referenced photos...
> Using a network share, I would like to be able to access my photos in > Picasa on two computers. The key is that I would like to be able to > edit, make albums, etc. on one computer and those settings are also > applied when I open on the other computer. If I simply copy all of my > photo folders to the network share and open Picasa on the second > computer, will this happen? If not, is there a way to achieve this?
Good on ya Don, just what I wanted. I want to sync my work computer and home computer photos and edit whether I'm at home or work, and use some kind of strategy of saving the stuff between one and the other via USB drive.
Here's hoping the Google boys and girls consider decentralizing their album definitions into a hidden file in the photo directory (as they do now with Edits). That way simple file copying will do the trick, and as Picasa scans the hard drive album definitions can be rebuilt, and if an album has images from 3 folders and folder 2 is missing the album still contains folders 1 and 3. That way they should also be able to show a definition of what albums a single photo belongs to, because it will all be in the hidden file. Doesn't make sense why they stored it in local settings, they can still apply user-specific rules in a decentralized structure. Albums should follow the same rules of labeling or tagging that Google uses in all their other apps (Reader, YouTube, BlogSpot).
Copying the .pal will do for me in the meantime. Thanks again. -Jason
> You can search this group for information on this subject... We've had > several nice discussions over the past couple of weeks.
> Summary of the current state of affairs:
> 1. You can have multiple PCs seeing/sharing photos on a shared drive > (e.g., network mapped). > 2. You will be able to share photo edits. (see below) > 3. You won't be able to share album definitions without some playing > around (see below).
> You'll need to configure each Picasa user to watch the appropriate > drive. > That's done with a Tools -> "Folder Manager..." menu choice in Picasa.
> Edits will be sharable because edits live in the picasa.ini files that > reside in the same folders as the photos... When Picasa sees the > folders and the photos, it will see the picasa.ini file and, thus, the > edits.
> On network drives, though, there are sometimes long delays (an hour?) > before Picasa notices edits. So if you have real-time requirements > (edits gotta show up immediately on all computers), you might have a > problem.
> Sharing album definitions are a bigger problem. Album definitions are > always stored on your local computer in the current user's user > profiles disk space. So, in general, they're not shared at all.
> If you do everything just right, you can manually copy the album > definitions from one computer to another and get the other computer's > Picasa to recognize the album. I've done it. First thing is that the > photos have to live on the same path on both computers... That means > that if the photos are on k:\SharedPhotos\vacation on one computer, > they gotta be in k:\SharedPhotos\vacation on the other computer. Even > the drive letter has to match. This is because the album definitions > include the fully-specified file names of all photos in the > album...
> The problem with synchronizing albums this way is that it's completely > a manual task. And, it's not an official, supported thing to be doing > with Picasa... Essentially, I'm copying some internal Picasa data > files from one computer to an other. This process seems to work with > today's version of Picasa. It might stop working at any time if they > change their internal implementation of Albums.
> Also, if you have multiple people updating albums willy-nilly, you're > not going to be able to do much of anything to synchronize the > definitions among the computers. Which album definition would you > copy to what other machines?
> OK, no guarantees... here's what I did...
> To move an album definition created by OneGuy from one computer to > OtherGuy's logon on another computer, you can just copy its .pal file > from the OneGuy user's Picasa area to AnotherGuy's Picasa user area. > For example, copy C:\Documents and Settings\OneGuy\Local Settings > \Application Data\Google \Picasa2Albums > \7dc8ed85289683d3a03851e0ce65b8c2\*.pal to the equivalent location > under OtherGuy's ...\Picasa2Albums\<big hex string> directory on the > other computer.
> Note: the huge hex string in the directory name under Picasa2Albums > directory will be different on every computer and every user...
> Note: you can carefully open a .pal file to see which album it is... > each album is a separate pal file. The album name is visible in the > pal file...
> I did this and the album definition seemed to be fine.
> Actually, I had to edit the .pal file in my case because it came from > another user on a different computer. I had all the photos on both > computers. But the path where the photos lived was different on my > destination machine... A careful notepad "replace" operation adjusted > the directory path information for all the referenced photos...
> Don
> On May 21, 8:06 am, Graebus wrote:
> > Using a network share, I would like to be able to access my photos in > > Picasa on two computers. The key is that I would like to be able to > > edit, make albums, etc. on one computer and those settings are also > > applied when I open on the other computer. If I simply copy all of my > > photo folders to the network share and open Picasa on the second > > computer, will this happen? If not, is there a way to achieve this?
I didn't see anything on the blog page that explained what edits aren't covered by the proposal above...
And your main complaint (about moving stuff to a new computer and losing edits and captions) is really just because you *didn't* use the Picasa "backup and restore" feature which captures *everything* you need and lets you move all your photos stuff to a new computer.
I believe that all Picasa edits (things done in the Picasa application) are saved either in the photo itself (captions, keywords...) or in the Picasa.ini files (literally everything else, including keywords and captions for some image types where that stuff can't be embedded in the image file).
The .pal files are the "album definitions" - they're basically the name of the album and the names of the photos that are *in* the album. You *can* definitely move an album definition from one computer to another computer by copying that .pal file into the right place...
Now, all that said... the "sync" thing from Microsoft could be interesting. But I'm always a little leery of that kind of a thing. Remember Briefcase?
What I really want is that Google should evolve Picasa from the single- user single-computer product that it was into something that can let multiple users on multiple computers share a common set of photographs. The photographs might all be on one computer... they might be on multiple computers, or they might be on a NAS drive or maybe on a removable drive... That's what I want.
> I've automated this a while ago, using Foldershare. I think there's > more to it than just the .pal files though. You also want all your > photo edits, which are not *only* in the picasa.ini files. Details > here:http://www.zoliblog.com/2005/11/19/picasa-photo-sync-on-multiple-comp...
Just a small point from personal experience. I did a complete backup with Picasa, restored (also using Picasa) to another computer, and the albums did not survive the transfer. I'm assuming it was due to it being a different drive letter on the new computer.
RV Chris - Yes... You're right on that one... I've been bitten, too... And that's really a big point... If you take Picasa up on their nice offer to restore the photos to another location, yeah... they *don't* fix up the album definitions...
You *can* fix them by hand. I've done that, too. With Picasa down, I edited the .pal file with Notepad and carefully adjusted the drive letter (and in my case, one node in the directory structure / path). I was only fixing a single album definition, so it wasn't too bad... And it worked great... I wouldn't want to do that for, say 100 album definitions... But I would because that's still better than having to rebuild the albums from scratch...
> Just a small point from personal experience. I did a complete backup > with Picasa, restored (also using Picasa) to another computer, and the > albums did not survive the transfer. I'm assuming it was due to it > being a different drive letter on the new computer.
"I didn't see anything on the blog page that explained what edits aren't covered by the proposal above... "
Of course not, the blog page was written in 2005:-) However, the sync trick still works with the current Picasa version.
It's a different concept: instead of a shared drive, I actually have multiple copies of the photos on each connected PC - consider them backups. However, manual backup/restore via Picasa won't suffice, (even if we ignore the glitches), since it's a one-time deal. What I am describing is more of a P2P approach: each computer has it's own albums, Picasa db's ..etc, yet they are identical - always kept in sync.
And no, Picasa edits are not kept in the photo files themselves (the newer releases allow you to specifically save them into a photo, but that's an extra manual step), and they are not all contained in the .ini files. I had this confirmed by Picasa support before publishing the solution.
On the "sync drive" thing... yep...If it all works correctly, that'd be a way to do it... certainly better than manually copying stuff around. :-)
On the last thing... not wanting to beat a dead horse... but... By "edits" I mean "stuff you do to a photo in picasa". Some edits *are* stored only in the jpeg itself. If you add a caption to a jpeg in Picasa, Picasa immediately updates the actual, current jpeg to put that comment into the IPTC data. If you want to be convinced, add a caption and immediately open the photo with notepad... you'll see your caption among the binary jpeg data. Same thing if you add a keyword/ tag to a jpeg. The IPTC data in the real jpeg is immediately updated in place. So that's what I meant by some "edits" are stored in the jpeg... Oh, and the red-eye removal... that one also updates the actual photo on disk and isn't saved in the ini file. I believe that all other edits *are* stored in the ini file, though. These examples would be sufficient to have the Picasa support people to say "all edits aren't in the ini file."
I'd be interested in hearing of an edit that is not in the jpeg and not in the ini file. I've never seen any... but there might be one... I haven't done every edit there is in Picasa. :-)
The album definitions are *not* in the photo and they're not in the ini file... they're a special pain in the you-know-what to maintain... thus the manual copying of .pal files and/or the "sync the directories" stuff...
> "I didn't see anything on the blog page that explained what edits > aren't covered by the proposal above... "
> Of course not, the blog page was written in 2005:-) However, the > sync trick still works with the current Picasa version.
> It's a different concept: instead of a shared drive, I actually have > multiple copies of the photos on each connected PC - consider them > backups. However, manual backup/restore via Picasa won't suffice, > (even if we ignore the glitches), since it's a one-time deal. What I > am describing is more of a P2P approach: each computer has it's own > albums, Picasa db's ..etc, yet they are identical - always kept in > sync.
> And no, Picasa edits are not kept in the photo files themselves (the > newer releases allow you to specifically save them into a photo, but > that's an extra manual step), and they are not all contained in > the .ini files. I had this confirmed by Picasa support before > publishing the solution.
Yes, captions..etc are in the actual file, I meant changes to the image, be it brightening, darkening, sharpening, cropping... you name it. I also had the impression that all these edits are in the picasa.ini file. However, empirical experience shows, that if you move just your pic folders, which obviously include the pic files and the picasa.ini to another computer, you lose those changes. You WILL need those funny system files from the C:\Documents and Settings \Username\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Picasa2\db2 directory. As a matter of fact, even if you don't move the .ini file, just the photos and the db files, Picasa will re-create the ini on the second computer.
Similar story for the albums: yes, .pal files are the album descriptions, but interestingly enough if you don't move them, just the above dir, Picasa will recreate the .pal files on the second computer.
The above is not simply based on Picasa support statements, but empirical experience.
> On the "sync drive" thing... yep...If it all works correctly, that'd > be a way to do it... certainly better than manually copying stuff > around. :-)
> On the last thing... not wanting to beat a dead horse... but... By > "edits" I mean "stuff you do to a photo in picasa". Some edits *are* > stored only in the jpeg itself. If you add a caption to a jpeg in > Picasa, Picasa immediately updates the actual, current jpeg to put > that comment into the IPTC data. If you want to be convinced, add a > caption and immediately open the photo with notepad... you'll see your > caption among the binary jpeg data. Same thing if you add a keyword/ > tag to a jpeg. The IPTC data in the real jpeg is immediately updated > in place. So that's what I meant by some "edits" are stored in the > jpeg... Oh, and the red-eye removal... that one also updates the > actual photo on disk and isn't saved in the ini file. I believe that > all other edits *are* stored in the ini file, though. These examples > would be sufficient to have the Picasa support people to say "all > edits aren't in the ini file."
> I'd be interested in hearing of an edit that is not in the jpeg and > not in the ini file. I've never seen any... but there might be > one... I haven't done every edit there is in Picasa. :-)
> The album definitions are *not* in the photo and they're not in the > ini file... they're a special pain in the you-know-what to maintain... > thus the manual copying of .pal files and/or the "sync the > directories" stuff...
> Don
> On Jul 30, 7:07 am,Zoliwrote:
> > Don,
> > "I didn't see anything on the blog page that explained what edits > > aren't covered by the proposal above... "
> > Of course not, the blog page was written in 2005:-) However, the > > sync trick still works with the current Picasa version.
> > It's a different concept: instead of a shared drive, I actually have > > multiple copies of the photos on each connected PC - consider them > > backups. However, manual backup/restore via Picasa won't suffice, > > (even if we ignore the glitches), since it's a one-time deal. What I > > am describing is more of a P2P approach: each computer has it's own > > albums, Picasa db's ..etc, yet they are identical - always kept in > > sync.
> > And no, Picasa edits are not kept in the photo files themselves (the > > newer releases allow you to specifically save them into a photo, but > > that's an extra manual step), and they are not all contained in > > the .ini files. I had this confirmed by Picasa support before > > publishing the solution.
On the current version (2.7), all the edits *are* in the ini files. You can see them in there with notepad. And if you copy a folder (with its photos in the picasa.ini file) to a new computer, Picasa on the new computer sees all the edits and nothing is lost.
I just cropped a photo and copied the folder to another computer... Picasa on the new computer sees the Picasa.ini file and the crop is alive and well on the new computer.
What edits are you losing when you copy a folder of photos and its Picasa.ini file?
> Yes, captions..etc are in the actual file, I meant changes to the > image, be it brightening, darkening, sharpening, cropping... you name > it. I also had the impression that all these edits are in the > picasa.ini file. However, empirical experience shows, that if you > move just your pic folders, which obviously include the pic files and > the picasa.ini to another computer, you lose those changes. You WILL > need those funny system files from the C:\Documents and Settings > \Username\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Picasa2\db2 > directory. > As a matter of fact, even if you don't move the .ini file, just the > photos and the db files, Picasa will re-create the ini on the second > computer.
> Similar story for the albums: yes, .palfiles are the album > descriptions, but interestingly enough if you don't move them, just > the above dir, Picasa will recreate the .palfiles on the second > computer.
> The above is not simply based on Picasa support statements, but > empirical experience.
> On Jul 30, 9:01 am, Don Lind wrote:
> > On the "sync drive" thing... yep...If it all works correctly, that'd > > be a way to do it... certainly better than manually copying stuff > > around. :-)
> > On the last thing... not wanting to beat a dead horse... but... By > > "edits" I mean "stuff you do to a photo in picasa". Some edits *are* > > stored only in the jpeg itself. If you add a caption to a jpeg in > > Picasa, Picasa immediately updates the actual, current jpeg to put > > that comment into the IPTC data. If you want to be convinced, add a > > caption and immediately open the photo with notepad... you'll see your > > caption among the binary jpeg data. Same thing if you add a keyword/ > > tag to a jpeg. The IPTC data in the real jpeg is immediately updated > > in place. So that's what I meant by some "edits" are stored in the > > jpeg... Oh, and the red-eye removal... that one also updates the > > actual photo on disk and isn't saved in the ini file. I believe that > > all other edits *are* stored in the ini file, though. These examples > > would be sufficient to have the Picasa support people to say "all > > edits aren't in the ini file."
> > I'd be interested in hearing of an edit that is not in the jpeg and > > not in the ini file. I've never seen any... but there might be > > one... I haven't done every edit there is in Picasa. :-)
> > The album definitions are *not* in the photo and they're not in the > > ini file... they're a special pain in the you-know-what to maintain... > > thus the manual copying of .palfiles and/or the "sync the > > directories" stuff...
> > Don
> > On Jul 30, 7:07 am,Zoliwrote:
> > > Don,
> > > "I didn't see anything on the blog page that explained what edits > > > aren't covered by the proposal above... "
> > > Of course not, the blog page was written in 2005:-) However, the > > > sync trick still works with the current Picasa version.
> > > It's a different concept: instead of a shared drive, I actually have > > > multiple copies of the photos on each connected PC - consider them > > > backups. However, manual backup/restore via Picasa won't suffice, > > > (even if we ignore the glitches), since it's a one-time deal. What I > > > am describing is more of a P2P approach: each computer has it's own > > > albums, Picasa db's ..etc, yet they are identical - always kept in > > > sync.
> > > And no, Picasa edits are not kept in the photo files themselves (the > > > newer releases allow you to specifically save them into a photo, but > > > that's an extra manual step), and they are not all contained in > > > the .ini files. I had this confirmed by Picasa support before > > > publishing the solution.
Don, Thanks for your help. I was in a different situation but used your advice.
I accidentally deleted all my albums (my error). I thought they were lost but discovered that in C:\Documents and Settings\OneGuy\Local Settings\Application Data\Google \Picasa2Albums I had 2 folders, one labeled "7dc8ed85289683d3a03851e0ce65b8c2" and the other "7dc8ed85289683d3a03851e0ce65b8c2(2)" -- that is, I had the "current" folder and a "backup" suffixed (2).
The "current" has todays date and is empty of all pal files. The "backup" is dated the date of my deletion and has all my deleted album pal files.
THE PROBLEM is that if I copy these pals from the "backup" to "current" ; Picasa opens, does not show the albums, then it deletes the pals. Any ideas why?
I followed your advice and was able to copy the files to a new user on the same computer and have my albums as they were. (which I will now back up)
I am just wondering why I cannot do this on my own user profile. I set everything to "Scan Once", And is it normal to have the "backup" pals?
This is not critical as I have my albums, but I was just curious and would appreciate any advice. Thanks, Darren
> On the current version (2.7), all the edits *are* in the ini files. > You can see them in there with notepad. And if you copy a folder > (with its photos in the picasa.ini file) to a new computer, Picasa on > the new computer sees all the edits and nothing is lost.
> I just cropped a photo and copied the folder to another computer... > Picasa on the new computer sees the Picasa.ini file and the crop is > alive and well on the new computer.
> What edits are you losing when you copy a folder of photos and its > Picasa.ini file?
> Don
> On Aug 4, 6:55 am, Zoli wrote:
> > Yes, captions..etc are in the actual file, I meant changes to the > > image, be it brightening, darkening, sharpening, cropping... you name > > it. I also had the impression that all these edits are in the > > picasa.ini file. However, empirical experience shows, that if you > > move just your pic folders, which obviously include the pic files and > > the picasa.ini to another computer, you lose those changes. You WILL > > need those funny system files from the C:\Documents and Settings > > \Username\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Picasa2\db2 > > directory. > > As a matter of fact, even if you don't move the .ini file, just the > > photos and the db files, Picasa will re-create the ini on the second > > computer.
> > Similar story for the albums: yes, .palfiles are the album > > descriptions, but interestingly enough if you don't move them, just > > the above dir, Picasa will recreate the .palfiles on the second > > computer.
> > The above is not simply based on Picasa support statements, but > > empirical experience.
> > On Jul 30, 9:01 am, Don Lind wrote:
> > > On the "sync drive" thing... yep...If it all works correctly, that'd > > > be a way to do it... certainly better than manually copying stuff > > > around. :-)
> > > On the last thing... not wanting to beat a dead horse... but... By > > > "edits" I mean "stuff you do to a photo in picasa". Some edits *are* > > > stored only in the jpeg itself. If you add a caption to a jpeg in > > > Picasa, Picasa immediately updates the actual, current jpeg to put > > > that comment into the IPTC data. If you want to be convinced, add a > > > caption and immediately open the photo with notepad... you'll see your > > > caption among the binary jpeg data. Same thing if you add a keyword/ > > > tag to a jpeg. The IPTC data in the real jpeg is immediately updated > > > in place. So that's what I meant by some "edits" are stored in the > > > jpeg... Oh, and the red-eye removal... that one also updates the > > > actual photo on disk and isn't saved in the ini file. I believe that > > > all other edits *are* stored in the ini file, though. These examples > > > would be sufficient to have the Picasa support people to say "all > > > edits aren't in the ini file."
> > > I'd be interested in hearing of an edit that is not in the jpeg and > > > not in the ini file. I've never seen any... but there might be > > > one... I haven't done every edit there is in Picasa. :-)
> > > The album definitions are *not* in the photo and they're not in the > > > ini file... they're a special pain in the you-know-what to maintain... > > > thus the manual copying of .palfiles and/or the "sync the > > > directories" stuff...
> > > Don
> > > On Jul 30, 7:07 am,Zoliwrote:
> > > > Don,
> > > > "I didn't see anything on the blog page that explained what edits > > > > aren't covered by the proposal above... "
> > > > Of course not, the blog page was written in 2005:-) However, the > > > > sync trick still works with the current Picasa version.
> > > > It's a different concept: instead of a shared drive, I actually have > > > > multiple copies of the photos on each connected PC - consider them > > > > backups. However, manual backup/restore via Picasa won't suffice, > > > > (even if we ignore the glitches), since it's a one-time deal. What I > > > > am describing is more of a P2P approach: each computer has it's own > > > > albums, Picasa db's ..etc, yet they are identical - always kept in > > > > sync.
> > > > And no, Picasa edits are not kept in the photo files themselves (the > > > > newer releases allow you to specifically save them into a photo, but > > > > that's an extra manual step), and they are not all contained in > > > > the .ini files. I had this confirmed by Picasa support before > > > > publishing the solution.
I've just bought a second laptop. I want to have my pic folders on both computers, was planning to transfer them by dvd. I assume that as long as I download Picasa 2 on the new laptop first, I should then be able to put in the dvd and place all my pic folders in My Pics (or whatever Vista calls it).
Am I proceeding the right way? Are there extra files I should be sure to copy onto the dvd & transfer over? It sounded above like there might be (db files?), but reading further then it sounded like it wouldn't be necessary.
I'll be using P2 on both, also my HP (printer) pic editor on both, and I'm very impressed w/what little I've seen so far of Vista's photo editor. It's VERY quick & simple! (& nice res on the pix you're working on.)
My other plan was just to throw a gazillion of them into GSpace and access them from both laptops.
> Don, > Thanks for your help. > I was in a different situation but used your advice.
> I accidentally deleted all my albums (my error). I thought they were > lost but discovered that in > C:\Documents and Settings\OneGuy\Local Settings\Application Data\Google > \Picasa2Albums I had 2 folders, one labeled > "7dc8ed85289683d3a03851e0ce65b8c2" and the other > "7dc8ed85289683d3a03851e0ce65b8c2(2)" -- that is, I had the "current" > folder and a "backup" suffixed (2).
> The "current" has todays date and is empty of all pal files. The > "backup" is dated the date of my deletion and has all my deleted album > pal files.
> THE PROBLEM is that if I copy these pals from the "backup" to > "current" ; Picasa opens, does not show the albums, then it deletes > the pals. Any ideas why?
> I followed your advice and was able to copy the files to a new user on > the same computer and have my albums as they were. (which I will now > back up)
> I am just wondering why I cannot do this on my own user profile. I set > everything to "Scan Once", And is it normal to have the "backup" pals?
> This is not critical as I have my albums, but I was just curious and > would appreciate any advice. > Thanks, Darren
> On Aug 31, 2:07 am, Don Lind wrote:
> > Zoli...
> > What version of Picasa are you using?
> > On the current version (2.7), all the edits *are* in the ini files. > > You can see them in there with notepad. And if you copy a folder > > (with its photos in the picasa.ini file) to a new computer, Picasa on > > the new computer sees all the edits and nothing is lost.
> > I just cropped a photo and copied the folder to another computer... > > Picasa on the new computer sees the Picasa.ini file and the crop is > > alive and well on the new computer.
> > What edits are you losing when you copy a folder of photos and its > > Picasa.ini file?
> > Don
> > On Aug 4, 6:55 am, Zoli wrote:
> > > Yes, captions..etc are in the actual file, I meant changes to the > > > image, be it brightening, darkening, sharpening, cropping... you name > > > it. I also had the impression that all these edits are in the > > > picasa.ini file. However, empirical experience shows, that if you > > > move just your pic folders, which obviously include the pic files and > > > the picasa.ini to another computer, you lose those changes. You WILL > > > need those funny system files from the C:\Documents and Settings > > > \Username\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Picasa2\db2 > > > directory. > > > As a matter of fact, even if you don't move the .ini file, just the > > > photos and the db files, Picasa will re-create the ini on the second > > > computer.
> > > Similar story for the albums: yes, .palfiles are the album > > > descriptions, but interestingly enough if you don't move them, just > > > the above dir, Picasa will recreate the .palfiles on the second > > > computer.
> > > The above is not simply based on Picasa support statements, but > > > empirical experience.
> > > On Jul 30, 9:01 am, Don Lind wrote:
> > > > On the "sync drive" thing... yep...If it all works correctly, that'd > > > > be a way to do it... certainly better than manually copying stuff > > > > around. :-)
> > > > On the last thing... not wanting to beat a dead horse... but... By > > > > "edits" I mean "stuff you do to a photo in picasa". Some edits *are* > > > > stored only in the jpeg itself. If you add a caption to a jpeg in > > > > Picasa, Picasa immediately updates the actual, current jpeg to put > > > > that comment into the IPTC data. If you want to be convinced, add a > > > > caption and immediately open the photo with notepad... you'll see your > > > > caption among the binary jpeg data. Same thing if you add a keyword/ > > > > tag to a jpeg. The IPTC data in the real jpeg is immediately updated > > > > in place. So that's what I meant by some "edits" are stored in the > > > > jpeg... Oh, and the red-eye removal... that one also updates the > > > > actual photo on disk and isn't saved in the ini file. I believe that > > > > all other edits *are* stored in the ini file, though. These examples > > > > would be sufficient to have the Picasa support people to say "all > > > > edits aren't in the ini file."
> > > > I'd be interested in hearing of an edit that is not in the jpeg and > > > > not in the ini file. I've never seen any... but there might be > > > > one... I haven't done every edit there is in Picasa. :-)
> > > > The album definitions are *not* in the photo and they're not in the > > > > ini file... they're a special pain in the you-know-what to maintain... > > > > thus the manual copying of .palfiles and/or the "sync the > > > > directories" stuff...
> > > > Don
> > > > On Jul 30, 7:07 am,Zoliwrote:
> > > > > Don,
> > > > > "I didn't see anything on the blog page that explained what edits > > > > > aren't covered by the proposal above... "
> > > > > Of course not, the blog page was written in 2005:-) However, the > > > > > sync trick still works with the current Picasa version.
> > > > > It's a different concept: instead of a shared drive, I actually have > > > > > multiple copies of the photos on each connected PC - consider them > > > > > backups. However, manual backup/restore via Picasa won't suffice, > > > > > (even if we ignore the glitches), since it's a one-time deal. What I > > > > > am describing is more of a P2P approach: each computer has it's own > > > > > albums, Picasa db's ..etc, yet they are identical - always kept in > > > > > sync.
> > > > > And no, Picasa edits are not kept in the photo files themselves (the > > > > > newer releases allow you to specifically save them into a photo, but > > > > > that's an extra manual step), and they are not all contained in > > > > > the .ini files. I had this confirmed by Picasa support before > > > > > publishing the solution.
You should probably do a Picasa backup (Tools -> "Backup Pictures..." menu choice) to back up all your photos, all your unsaved edits, an all your album definitions... Use the backup to restore your photos on your new laptop... this will bring the whole Picasa environment over... that's better then copying just the photo folders...
I played with the Vista's photo organizer on a demo PC at Costco a few weeks ago... it seemed very similar to Picasa... but when I cropped a photo, I couldn't find an "undo" anywhere.. And I looked around pretty good...
Zoli and ddss -
Some things have recently changed internally in Picasa. Album definitions no longer seem to be defined with the PAL files. They seem to have moved off into the Picasa database somewhere. But the edits still seem to be in the Picasa.ini files...
I'm not sure any more how Picasa manages the album definitions...
Don
I don't know for sure... On Sep 2, 6:42 pm, winky2 wrote:
> I've just bought a second laptop. I want to have my pic folders on > both computers, was planning to transfer them by dvd. I assume that > as long as I download Picasa 2 on the new laptop first, I should then > be able to put in the dvd and place all my pic folders in My Pics (or > whatever Vista calls it).
> Am I proceeding the right way? Are there extrafilesI should be sure > tocopyonto the dvd & transfer over? It sounded above like there > might be (dbfiles?), but reading further then it sounded like it > wouldn't be necessary.
> I'll be using P2 on both, also my HP (printer) pic editor on both, and > I'm very impressed w/what little I've seen so far of Vista's photo > editor. It's VERY quick & simple! (& nice res on the pix you're > working on.)
> My other plan was just to throw a gazillion of them into GSpace and > access them from both laptops.
> Thx for any advice...
> On Sep 2, 6:07 pm, ddss wrote:
> > Don, > > Thanks for your help. > > I was in a different situation but used your advice.
> > I accidentally deleted all my albums (my error). I thought they were > > lost but discovered that in > > C:\Documents and Settings\OneGuy\Local Settings\Application Data\Google > > \Picasa2Albums I had 2 folders, one labeled > > "7dc8ed85289683d3a03851e0ce65b8c2" and the other > > "7dc8ed85289683d3a03851e0ce65b8c2(2)" -- that is, I had the "current" > > folder and a "backup" suffixed (2).
> > The "current" has todays date and is empty of allpalfiles. The > > "backup" is dated the date of my deletion and has all my deleted album > >palfiles.
> > THE PROBLEM is that if Icopythese pals from the "backup" to > > "current" ; Picasa opens, does not show the albums, then it deletes > > the pals. Any ideas why?
> > I followed your advice and was able tocopythefilesto a new user on > > the same computer and have my albums as they were. (which I will now > > back up)
> > I am just wondering why I cannot do this on my own user profile. I set > > everything to "Scan Once", And is it normal to have the "backup" pals?
> > This is not critical as I have my albums, but I was just curious and > > would appreciate any advice. > > Thanks, Darren
> > On Aug 31, 2:07 am, Don Lind wrote:
> > > Zoli...
> > > What version of Picasa are you using?
> > > On the current version (2.7), all the edits *are* in the inifiles. > > > You can see them in there with notepad. And if youcopya folder > > > (with its photos in the picasa.ini file) to a new computer, Picasa on > > > the new computer sees all the edits and nothing is lost.
> > > I just cropped a photo and copied the folder to another computer... > > > Picasa on the new computer sees the Picasa.ini file and the crop is > > > alive and well on the new computer.
> > > What edits are you losing when youcopya folder of photos and its > > > Picasa.ini file?
> > > Don
> > > On Aug 4, 6:55 am, Zoli wrote:
> > > > Yes, captions..etc are in the actual file, I meant changes to the > > > > image, be it brightening, darkening, sharpening, cropping... you name > > > > it. I also had the impression that all these edits are in the > > > > picasa.ini file. However, empirical experience shows, that if you > > > > move just your pic folders, which obviously include the picfilesand > > > > the picasa.ini to another computer, you lose those changes. You WILL > > > > need those funny systemfilesfrom the C:\Documents and Settings > > > > \Username\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Picasa2\db2 > > > > directory. > > > > As a matter of fact, even if you don't move the .ini file, just the > > > > photos and the dbfiles, Picasa will re-create the ini on the second > > > > computer.
> > > > Similar story for the albums: yes, .palfiles are the album > > > > descriptions, but interestingly enough if you don't move them, just > > > > the above dir, Picasa will recreate the .palfiles on the second > > > > computer.
> > > > The above is not simply based on Picasa support statements, but > > > > empirical experience.
> > > > On Jul 30, 9:01 am, Don Lind wrote:
> > > > > On the "sync drive" thing... yep...If it all works correctly, that'd > > > > > be a way to do it... certainly better than manually copying stuff > > > > > around. :-)
> > > > > On the last thing... not wanting to beat a dead horse... but... By > > > > > "edits" I mean "stuff you do to a photo in picasa". Some edits *are* > > > > > stored only in the jpeg itself. If you add a caption to a jpeg in > > > > > Picasa, Picasa immediately updates the actual, current jpeg to put > > > > > that comment into the IPTC data. If you want to be convinced, add a > > > > > caption and immediately open the photo with notepad... you'll see your > > > > > caption among the binary jpeg data. Same thing if you add a keyword/ > > > > > tag to a jpeg. The IPTC data in the real jpeg is immediately updated > > > > > in place. So that's what I meant by some "edits" are stored in the > > > > > jpeg... Oh, and the red-eye removal... that one also updates the > > > > > actual photo on disk and isn't saved in the ini file. I believe that > > > > > all other edits *are* stored in the ini file, though. These examples > > > > > would be sufficient to have the Picasa support people to say "all > > > > > edits aren't in the ini file."
> > > > > I'd be interested in hearing of an edit that is not in the jpeg and > > > > > not in the ini file. I've never seen any... but there might be > > > > > one... I haven't done every edit there is in Picasa. :-)
> > > > > The album definitions are *not* in the photo and they're not in the > > > > > ini file... they're a special pain in the you-know-what to maintain... > > > > > thus the manual copying of .palfiles and/or the "sync the > > > > > directories" stuff...
> > > > > Don
> > > > > On Jul 30, 7:07 am,Zoliwrote:
> > > > > > Don,
> > > > > > "I didn't see anything on the blog page that explained what edits > > > > > > aren't covered by the proposal above... "
> > > > > > Of course not, the blog page was written in 2005:-) However, the > > > > > > sync trick still works with the current Picasa version.
> > > > > > It's a different concept: instead of a shared drive, I actually have > > > > > > multiple copies of the photos on each connected PC - consider them > > > > > > backups. However, manual backup/restore via Picasa won't suffice, > > > > > > (even if we ignore the glitches), since it's a one-time deal. What I > > > > > > am describing is more of a P2P approach: each computer has it's own > > > > > > albums, Picasa db's ..etc, yet they are identical - always kept in > > > > > > sync.
> > > > > > And no, Picasa edits are not kept in the photofilesthemselves (the > > > > > > newer releases allow you to specifically save them into a photo, but > > > > > > that's an extra manual step), and they are not all contained in > > > > > > the .inifiles. I had this confirmed by Picasa support before > > > > > > publishing the solution.
> You should probably do a Picasa backup (Tools -> "Backup Pictures..." > menu choice) to back up all your photos, all your unsaved edits, an > all your album definitions... Use the backup to restore your photos > on your new laptop... this will bring the whole Picasa environment > over... that's better then copying just the photo folders...
> I played with the Vista's photo organizer on a demo PC at Costco a few > weeks ago... it seemed very similar to Picasa... but when I cropped a > photo, I couldn't find an "undo" anywhere.. And I looked around > pretty good...
> Zoli and ddss -
> Some things have recently changed internally in Picasa. Album > definitions no longer seem to be defined with the PAL files. They > seem to have moved off into the Picasa database somewhere. But the > edits still seem to be in the Picasa.ini files...
> I'm not sure any more how Picasa manages the album definitions...
> Don
> I don't know for sure... > On Sep 2, 6:42 pm, winky2 wrote:
> > An additional question along the same lines--
> > I've just bought a second laptop. I want to have my pic folders on > > both computers, was planning to transfer them by dvd. I assume that > > as long as I download Picasa 2 on the new laptop first, I should then > > be able to put in the dvd and place all my pic folders in My Pics (or > > whatever Vista calls it).
> > Am I proceeding the right way? Are there extrafilesI should be sure > > tocopyonto the dvd & transfer over? It sounded above like there > > might be (dbfiles?), but reading further then it sounded like it > > wouldn't be necessary.
> > I'll be using P2 on both, also my HP (printer) pic editor on both, and > > I'm very impressed w/what little I've seen so far of Vista's photo > > editor. It's VERY quick & simple! (& nice res on the pix you're > > working on.)
> > My other plan was just to throw a gazillion of them into GSpace and > > access them from both laptops.
> > Thx for any advice...
> > On Sep 2, 6:07 pm, ddss wrote:
> > > Don, > > > Thanks for your help. > > > I was in a different situation but used your advice.
> > > I accidentally deleted all my albums (my error). I thought they were > > > lost but discovered that in > > > C:\Documents and Settings\OneGuy\Local Settings\Application Data\Google > > > \Picasa2Albums I had 2 folders, one labeled > > > "7dc8ed85289683d3a03851e0ce65b8c2" and the other > > > "7dc8ed85289683d3a03851e0ce65b8c2(2)" -- that is, I had the "current" > > > folder and a "backup" suffixed (2).
> > > The "current" has todays date and is empty of allpalfiles. The > > > "backup" is dated the date of my deletion and has all my deleted album > > >palfiles.
> > > THE PROBLEM is that if Icopythese pals from the "backup" to > > > "current" ; Picasa opens, does not show the albums, then it deletes > > > the pals. Any ideas why?
> > > I followed your advice and was able tocopythefilesto a new user on > > > the same computer and have my albums as they were. (which I will now > > > back up)
> > > I am just wondering why I cannot do this on my own user profile. I set > > > everything to "Scan Once", And is it normal to have the "backup" pals?
> > > This is not critical as I have my albums, but I was just curious and > > > would appreciate any advice. > > > Thanks, Darren
> > > On Aug 31, 2:07 am, Don Lind wrote:
> > > > Zoli...
> > > > What version of Picasa are you using?
> > > > On the current version (2.7), all the edits *are* in the inifiles. > > > > You can see them in there with notepad. And if youcopya folder > > > > (with its photos in the picasa.ini file) to a new computer, Picasa on > > > > the new computer sees all the edits and nothing is lost.
> > > > I just cropped a photo and copied the folder to another computer... > > > > Picasa on the new computer sees the Picasa.ini file and the crop is > > > > alive and well on the new computer.
> > > > What edits are you losing when youcopya folder of photos and its > > > > Picasa.ini file?
> > > > Don
> > > > On Aug 4, 6:55 am, Zoli wrote:
> > > > > Yes, captions..etc are in the actual file, I meant changes to the > > > > > image, be it brightening, darkening, sharpening, cropping... you name > > > > > it. I also had the impression that all these edits are in the > > > > > picasa.ini file. However, empirical experience shows, that if you > > > > > move just your pic folders, which obviously include the picfilesand > > > > > the picasa.ini to another computer, you lose those changes. You WILL > > > > > need those funny systemfilesfrom the C:\Documents and Settings > > > > > \Username\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Picasa2\db2 > > > > > directory. > > > > > As a matter of fact, even if you don't move the .ini file, just the > > > > > photos and the dbfiles, Picasa will re-create the ini on the second > > > > > computer.
> > > > > Similar story for the albums: yes, .palfiles are the album > > > > > descriptions, but interestingly enough if you don't move them, just > > > > > the above dir, Picasa will recreate the .palfiles on the second > > > > > computer.
> > > > > The above is not simply based on Picasa support statements, but > > > > > empirical experience.
> > > > > On Jul 30, 9:01 am, Don Lind wrote:
> > > > > > On the "sync drive" thing... yep...If it all works correctly, that'd > > > > > > be a way to do it... certainly better than manually copying stuff > > > > > > around. :-)
> > > > > > On the last thing... not wanting to beat a dead horse... but... By > > > > > > "edits" I mean "stuff you do to a photo in picasa". Some edits *are* > > > > > > stored only in the jpeg itself. If you add a caption to a jpeg in > > > > > > Picasa, Picasa immediately updates the actual, current jpeg to put > > > > > > that comment into the IPTC data. If you want to be convinced, add a > > > > > > caption and immediately open the photo with notepad... you'll see your > > > > > > caption among the binary jpeg data. Same thing if you add a keyword/ > > > > > > tag to a jpeg. The IPTC data in the real jpeg is immediately updated > > > > > > in place. So that's what I meant by some "edits" are stored in the > > > > > > jpeg... Oh, and the red-eye removal... that one also updates the > > > > > > actual photo on disk and isn't saved in the ini file. I believe that > > > > > > all other edits *are* stored in the ini file, though. These examples > > > > > > would be sufficient to have the Picasa support people to say "all > > > > > > edits aren't in the ini file."
> > > > > > I'd be interested in hearing of an edit that is not in the jpeg and > > > > > > not in the ini file. I've never seen any... but there might be > > > > > > one... I haven't done every edit there is in Picasa. :-)
> > > > > > The album definitions are *not* in the photo and they're not in the > > > > > > ini file... they're a special pain in the you-know-what to maintain... > > > > > > thus the manual copying of .palfiles and/or the "sync the > > > > > > directories" stuff...
> > > > > > Don
> > > > > > On Jul 30, 7:07 am,Zoliwrote:
> > > > > > > Don,
> > > > > > > "I didn't see anything on the blog page that explained what edits > > > > > > > aren't covered by the proposal above... "
> > > > > > > Of course not, the blog page was written in 2005:-) However, the > > > > > > > sync trick still works with the current Picasa version.
> > > > > > > It's a different concept: instead of a shared drive, I actually have > > > > > > > multiple copies of the photos on each connected PC - consider them > > > > > > > backups. However, manual backup/restore via Picasa won't suffice, > > > > > > > (even if we ignore the glitches), since it's a one-time deal. What I > > > > > > > am describing is more of a P2P approach: each computer has it's own > > > > > > > albums, Picasa db's ..etc, yet they are identical - always kept in > > > > > > > sync.
> > > > > > > And no, Picasa edits are not kept in the photofilesthemselves (the > > > > > > > newer releases allow you to specifically save them into a photo, but > > > > > > > that's an extra manual step), and they are not all contained in > > > > > > > the .inifiles. I had this confirmed by Picasa support before > > > > > > > publishing the solution.
> You should probably do a Picasa backup (Tools -> "Backup Pictures..." > menu choice) to back up all your photos, all your unsaved edits, an > all your album definitions... Use the backup to restore your photos > on your new laptop... this will bring the whole Picasa environment > over... that's better then copying just the photo folders...
> I played with the Vista's photo organizer on a demo PC at Costco a few > weeks ago... it seemed very similar to Picasa... but when I cropped a > photo, I couldn't find an "undo" anywhere.. And I looked around > pretty good...
> Zoli and ddss -
> Some things have recently changed internally in Picasa. Album > definitions no longer seem to be defined with the PAL files. They > seem to have moved off into the Picasa database somewhere. But the > edits still seem to be in the Picasa.ini files...
> I'm not sure any more how Picasa manages the album definitions...
> Don
> I don't know for sure... > On Sep 2, 6:42 pm, winky2 wrote:
> > An additional question along the same lines--
> > I've just bought a second laptop. I want to have my pic folders on > > both computers, was planning to transfer them by dvd. I assume that > > as long as I download Picasa 2 on the new laptop first, I should then > > be able to put in the dvd and place all my pic folders in My Pics (or > > whatever Vista calls it).
> > Am I proceeding the right way? Are there extrafilesI should be sure > > tocopyonto the dvd & transfer over? It sounded above like there > > might be (dbfiles?), but reading further then it sounded like it > > wouldn't be necessary.
> > I'll be using P2 on both, also my HP (printer) pic editor on both, and > > I'm very impressed w/what little I've seen so far of Vista's photo > > editor. It's VERY quick & simple! (& nice res on the pix you're > > working on.)
> > My other plan was just to throw a gazillion of them into GSpace and > > access them from both laptops.
> > Thx for any advice...
> > On Sep 2, 6:07 pm, ddss wrote:
> > > Don, > > > Thanks for your help. > > > I was in a different situation but used your advice.
> > > I accidentally deleted all my albums (my error). I thought they were > > > lost but discovered that in > > > C:\Documents and Settings\OneGuy\Local Settings\Application Data\Google > > > \Picasa2Albums I had 2 folders, one labeled > > > "7dc8ed85289683d3a03851e0ce65b8c2" and the other > > > "7dc8ed85289683d3a03851e0ce65b8c2(2)" -- that is, I had the "current" > > > folder and a "backup" suffixed (2).
> > > The "current" has todays date and is empty of allpalfiles. The > > > "backup" is dated the date of my deletion and has all my deleted album > > >palfiles.
> > > THE PROBLEM is that if Icopythese pals from the "backup" to > > > "current" ; Picasa opens, does not show the albums, then it deletes > > > the pals. Any ideas why?
> > > I followed your advice and was able tocopythefilesto a new user on > > > the same computer and have my albums as they were. (which I will now > > > back up)
> > > I am just wondering why I cannot do this on my own user profile. I set > > > everything to "Scan Once", And is it normal to have the "backup" pals?
> > > This is not critical as I have my albums, but I was just curious and > > > would appreciate any advice. > > > Thanks, Darren
> > > On Aug 31, 2:07 am, Don Lind wrote:
> > > > Zoli...
> > > > What version of Picasa are you using?
> > > > On the current version (2.7), all the edits *are* in the inifiles. > > > > You can see them in there with notepad. And if youcopya folder > > > > (with its photos in the picasa.ini file) to a new computer, Picasa on > > > > the new computer sees all the edits and nothing is lost.
> > > > I just cropped a photo and copied the folder to another computer... > > > > Picasa on the new computer sees the Picasa.ini file and the crop is > > > > alive and well on the new computer.
> > > > What edits are you losing when youcopya folder of photos and its > > > > Picasa.ini file?
> > > > Don
> > > > On Aug 4, 6:55 am, Zoli wrote:
> > > > > Yes, captions..etc are in the actual file, I meant changes to the > > > > > image, be it brightening, darkening, sharpening, cropping... you name > > > > > it. I also had the impression that all these edits are in the > > > > > picasa.ini file. However, empirical experience shows, that if you > > > > > move just your pic folders, which obviously include the picfilesand > > > > > the picasa.ini to another computer, you lose those changes. You WILL > > > > > need those funny systemfilesfrom the C:\Documents and Settings > > > > > \Username\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Picasa2\db2 > > > > > directory. > > > > > As a matter of fact, even if you don't move the .ini file, just the > > > > > photos and the dbfiles, Picasa will re-create the ini on the second > > > > > computer.
> > > > > Similar story for the albums: yes, .palfiles are the album > > > > > descriptions, but interestingly enough if you don't move them, just > > > > > the above dir, Picasa will recreate the .palfiles on the second > > > > > computer.
> > > > > The above is not simply based on Picasa support statements, but > > > > > empirical experience.
> > > > > On Jul 30, 9:01 am, Don Lind wrote:
> > > > > > On the "sync drive" thing... yep...If it all works correctly, that'd > > > > > > be a way to do it... certainly better than manually copying stuff > > > > > > around. :-)
> > > > > > On the last thing... not wanting to beat a dead horse... but... By > > > > > > "edits" I mean "stuff you do to a photo in picasa". Some edits *are* > > > > > > stored only in the jpeg itself. If you add a caption to a jpeg in > > > > > > Picasa, Picasa immediately updates the actual, current jpeg to put > > > > > > that comment into the IPTC data. If you want to be convinced, add a > > > > > > caption and immediately open the photo with notepad... you'll see your > > > > > > caption among the binary jpeg data. Same thing if you add a keyword/ > > > > > > tag to a jpeg. The IPTC data in the real jpeg is immediately updated > > > > > > in place. So that's what I meant by some "edits" are stored in the > > > > > > jpeg... Oh, and the red-eye removal... that one also updates the > > > > > > actual photo on disk and isn't saved in the ini file. I believe that > > > > > > all other edits *are* stored in the ini file, though. These examples > > > > > > would be sufficient to have the Picasa support people to say "all > > > > > > edits aren't in the ini file."
> > > > > > I'd be interested in hearing of an edit that is not in the jpeg and > > > > > > not in the ini file. I've never seen any... but there might be > > > > > > one... I haven't done every edit there is in Picasa. :-)
> > > > > > The album definitions are *not* in the photo and they're not in the > > > > > > ini file... they're a special pain in the you-know-what to maintain... > > > > > > thus the manual copying of .palfiles and/or the "sync the > > > > > > directories" stuff...
> > > > > > Don
> > > > > > On Jul 30, 7:07 am,Zoliwrote:
> > > > > > > Don,
> > > > > > > "I didn't see anything on the blog page that explained what edits > > > > > > > aren't covered by the proposal above... "
> > > > > > > Of course not, the blog page was written in 2005:-) However, the > > > > > > > sync trick still works with the current Picasa version.
> > > > > > > It's a different concept: instead of a shared drive, I actually have > > > > > > > multiple copies of the photos on each connected PC - consider them > > > > > > > backups. However, manual backup/restore via Picasa won't suffice, > > > > > > > (even if we ignore the glitches), since it's a one-time deal. What I > > > > > > > am describing is more of a P2P approach: each computer has it's own > > > > > > > albums, Picasa db's ..etc, yet they are identical - always kept in > > > > > > > sync.
> > > > > > > And no, Picasa edits are not kept in the photofilesthemselves (the > > > > > > > newer releases allow you to specifically save them into a photo, but > > > > > > > that's an extra manual step), and they are not all contained in > > > > > > > the .inifiles. I had this confirmed by Picasa support before > > > > > > > publishing the solution.
