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Allen Cooper

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Apr 12, 2010, 9:23:57 PM4/12/10
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I am a brand new owner of Harmony an '87 P40. I am a fairly
experienced sailor but will have lots of questions. For starters I am
curious about the size of anchors being used on P40's especially
CQR's. I have a 35lb from my old boat a 35 footer but worry this is a
bit light for the P40. What are others using.

P. Sherwood

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Apr 12, 2010, 10:06:12 PM4/12/10
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Ooh, one of the religious questions reopened ...

I have a 20-kilo Bruce and have never had a
problem anchoring. I´d like to have a 30-kilo. I
have a 35- or 40-lb CQR as a second anchor and a
large-ish Danforth as a third (stern) anchor,
which has worked well for me on the relatively
few occasions I´ve had to use it.

All the cruisers I´ve talked to and whose reviews
I´ve read about Rocna, Spade, and Manson anchors
say that they are absolutely the bomb. They´re
also expensive. I have been saving my paper route
money so I can buy a Rocna, one size larger than
what the mfr recommends, someday fairly soon.

Phil
s/v Cynosure
Bahia de Caraquez

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William Ennis

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Apr 12, 2010, 11:22:24 PM4/12/10
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Up here in AK, our water is very deep and the bottom is variable: rock, sand, gravel mostly. We've had great luck with a 45 # CQR and 300 feet of 5/16 High Test chain. If the water is less than 100 feet deep, we consider ourselves lucky. At times, we've even tied up to shore since it can be so deep. Drop over the fenders, sling some trees, relax with a cocktail. For backup, we have a Fortress 35 # that we keep stowed below. Our 1984 P40 has a stern anchor locker that holds 40 feet of chain and 300 feet of 3/4 nylon and that's been sufficient.

Never had a problem with the CQR, but several boaters up here use Bruce. With so much rock, the CQR can grab and hold very well. We need the chain for weight and chafe protection. Our main problem is not the hook but the scope. We also use a snubber: 20 feet of 1/2 inch nylon with a chain hook spliced in. Mostly, the snubber allows us to eliminate the sound of chain dragging on the rocks: sounds like a B horror movie all night otherwise.

I don't know anyone up here with a Rockna but I've sure read good things about them. Phil is right: bigger is (in this case) better.

Bill

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Beller Family

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Apr 13, 2010, 12:18:37 AM4/13/10
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On "Journey", we have been quite pleased with a 45# Delta in all conditions
here in the California Channel Islands and also all over in Mexico. Prior
to that we had a 44# Bruce for many years that worked well, but, the Delta
is better all around especially in grassy bottoms where a Bruce fails. We
have 300' of 5/16 chain.

Jeff

Anthem

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Apr 13, 2010, 8:00:56 AM4/13/10
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On Anthem, we use a 42 lb CQR, which holds well in Chesapeake mud, but
not without entertaining the anchorage. My most successful approach
is to pick the spot to end up in. I then go to the far shore, load
the anchor in the dinghy and take it as far up the beach or yard as I
have chain. I then drag back across the anchorage to my spot. By the
time I get there, the anchor is about 50ft into the mud. With
practice, this can be accomplished in under two hours. Snagging a
cable helps.

Retrieval the next day confirms that I altered the seabed during the
night, as most of it remains on the anchor.

Once set, the CQR is great.

My personal preference is to find a friend with a Bruce and raft up.

Some day I'll get a Rocna.

Bob Peahl
Anthem P40/70

Larry Rovin

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Apr 13, 2010, 8:46:03 AM4/13/10
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What works best will depend on the waters you are sailing. On the Chesapeake we have a 45lb CQR that works fine under all conditions with only 40' of chain and 200' of nylon rode. Second anchor is a 40lb Bruce that only gets used in hurricane season.

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Ian Macrae

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Apr 14, 2010, 1:04:12 AM4/14/10
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I've been using a 44# Bruce on the west coast of Mexico, with 350 feet
of chain of unknown but sufficient size. Works fine in mostly sand
and the mud bottom in Barra. If I had to buy another one I'd go a
little heavier, just on general principals.

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