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Open-Ended Evolutionary Innovation in a Quarantined System: is it possible? Can it be demonstrated? Can a demonstration be designed? This last question is posted as a challenge on Innocentive.com beginning in June 2008. The blog-site for this challenge is here!
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Related news: Interstellar 'slowball' could have carried seeds of life
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What the article doesn't say is how long it would take such a "life
rock" to travel interstellar distances, or, why it is more likely that
the star formation cluster would have such compounds in it as compared
to another star system.
I think it was Douglas Adams who said "Space is big. Really big."... more »
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Can we discuss the question?
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I need to understand the qualifying and the quantifying parameters of
the question. Can someone explain it further?
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A Resolution, if not the desired one
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I believe this issue has a trivial resolution.
First, as a previous poster has said, the Earth most likely is a QS,
and even if it is not, there is SOME QS out there. The universe
(barring some fringe science being true) is a QS, and since life has
emerged in it, clearly complex life can emerge in a QS.... more »
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panspermia and intellectual property
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I'm interested in this discussion, as I am about to complete some work
that might be eligible. But I have a couple of questions.
1. I'm not sure how the *transfer of intellectual property* would
work in this case. I have a logical argument, which includes a number
of mathematical proofs. What would selling it mean? Would I still be... more »
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comments
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1) The outcome of this challenge has no effect on the panspermia
debate: the universe is a quarantined system. If complexity can't
increase in a quarantined system, then we, apparently, do not exist.
2) Brig, your statement, "The model does what it is programmed to do,
and that's all." sounds a bit like the ai paradox: as soon as a... more »
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MSU Devolab
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In searching for information about how this challenge might be
approached in a practical manner, I found a group which seems to have
already qualified for the prize. Their web site is
[link]
They are associated with Lenski and descend from the Caltech Digital
Life Lab. There is a great deal of information on this site and its... more »
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question from a solver
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[from anonymous, 23 June 2008]
I've been thinking about open-ended results in a closed system, from a
slightly different direction. The innocentive challenge fits well with
this.
Here is a question: can the innovation be specified, given a certain
number of constraints?
I see two different innovation possibilities: environmental and... more »
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Problem Definition, Discussion, and Question
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In trying to set up a definition of this problem and also define the
criteria for a solution, I have run into some issues.
First, from the discussion earlier about Lenski's results, it seems
clear that no biological system can provide an acceptable proof. This
is unfortunate because most of the terms used in stating the problem... more »
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computer models
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i am confused about what type of computer model would be acceptable.
what would be the starting point for a model? let's say, for example,
you wanted to allow some sort of computational evolution subject to
some selective fitness pressure: you would need to start from some
model of a cellular system, which by assumption might be contrived to... more »
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