Jay Primus' outreach
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Nicky Jacobson
Jan 20, 2012, 12:30:14 AM1/20/12
to Stop Parking Meters in Dogpatch, Potrero and Mission Bay
Here's a great email stream sent form John Lum about outreach. Note
that he said he did outreach to Zspace, they said they've never spoken
to him and don't agree with the meters and are the ones who offered a
space for everyone to meet on Jan 30th to oppose the plan.
HI Nicky,
Thanks for this. I will try to review. FYI, I have attached the e-
mail string that occurred your Dogpatch was involved for my request
for the survey information from Primus. I sent my e-mail to him on
January 12, 2012.
John Lum
Jay:
This is not acceptable.
You mean to tell me that you are using a federal grant of over $20
million dollars to implement your metering program and you don't have
any records to document who you met with, or who influenced your
decision making? I am shocked that you cannot provide a log of the
people that you have met. Do you have any standards that you are held
too when you are administrating a grant/tax payer money?
The whole point of a community outreach is to try to engage the
community in a meaningful dialogue. Your admittance that you have no
records of this outreach demonstrates to me that your agency again,
has failed to meet any standards when it comes to conducting a
meaningful dialogue with the community that you are purportedly trying
to help. You cannot prove that you met with anyone without records of
these meetings. I sat on a Commission for ten years, and it is
irresponsible that your meetings with the public are not documented.
You claim that you have sent out drafts to major stake holders over
150 people, yet you have no record of this?
In your outreach to the stakeholders in our community you
unfortunately left out all of the people who live here. You claim
that you met with Project Artaud who you said were supportive of the
metering, yet several artists last week who live in that complex told
me that you never met with anyone there, and certainly not with anyone
who had any authority.
To blame Planning or Supervisor Kim's office for the limited outreach
does not absolve you of the failure to conduct an outreach to the
residents as well as the numerous small businesses that exist here.
Also posting English only signs in a neighborhood that is multilingual
is culturally insensitive, and also shows how out of touch your agency
is to the needs of our community.
From your e-mail, you admit that you basically gave only a month to
unveil the program to the general public.
Do you really think this is fair and is a reasonable time to get
consensus on a program that has a substantial financial and
environmental impact on our neighborhood? I requested that you
postpone this hearing for at least a month and you refused, saying
that you gave my community plenty of time to comment.
Is that why the Dog Patch neighborhood has collected over 1000
signatures to oppose this plan? Is that why we had over 50 people
last week attend a meeting last week opposing your plan for the
Mission?
You would think that if you actually wanted to build consensus and get
support for your program you would want to engage in a dialogue with
the people who at going to have to live with consequences of your
program.
For someone who purportedly is creating a progressive parking program
to better our environment, it's ironic how you have missed the part
about inclusion and
Iistening to the community.
Your lack of documentation is unacceptable and your inability to give
me the names of the people you met with goes directly against the
intent of the Sunshine Ordinance.
I again, formally ask you to postpone the hearing for this plan, and
restart the neighborhood outreach program, as you have no proof that
you actually have done one.
John Lum
On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Primus, Jay wrote:
> John,
>
> In response to your sunshine request, the SFMTA does not have records of the specific dates of meetings or a list of the groups, but we hope the following information will be useful to you. To summarize outreach to date for the 17th & Folsom parking management proposal:
>
> · Last summer we did door-to-door initial outreach and met with Sup. Kim’s office
> · Through the summer, fall, and winter met with key stakeholders, primarily large institutions/employers, including the UCSF Mission Center, Oberlin Dance Collective, Mission Neighborhood Health Center, PODER, Animation Studio, and Z space. That list of groups was reviewed by Sup. Kim’s office and the Planning Department, who did not have others to suggest.
> · The SFMTA refined the proposal this fall as a result of those meetings, and then again after meeting with some community members that had been recommended by the Planning Department as individuals who had been active community leaders during the park planning process.
> · In November, the SFMTA sent the review draft of the proposal to 150+ people (to an email list provided by the Planning Department that was assembled as part of their outreach for the park at the parking lot).
> · In mid-December, the SFMTA then sent the revised proposal to 220+ people in mid-December.
> · In both November and December the plan was also posted on the SFpark.org site to ensure that it was broadly available.
> · As part of the public engineering hearing on the proposal for 1/13, the SFMTA also posted formal public notices on every block.
> · To avoid conflicts with the holidays, and in recognition of the significance of this proposal, the SFMTA moved the public hearing date from 1/6 to 1/13.
> · This fall and winter, the SFMTA has responded to approximately 75 emails related to this proposal, whether by phone or email, to respond to the questions and issues raised by each person.
>
> Thank you ----
>
> Jay
>
>
>
> From: John Lum [mailto:jo...@johnlumarchitecture.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:29 AM
> To: Primus, Jay
> Cc: Susette Blackwell
> Subject: Re: SFMTA >> Revised parking management proposal for the 17th & Folsom area
>
> Jay:
>
> I don't think your outreach has been sufficient. Our group was notified on November 16th about your plan.
>
> Could you please explain your process? How did you identify the stake holders, and the leaders in our community? Is there a protocol that SFMTA follows, or is this a made up process?
>
> Also, I would like a list of the people/organizations who you have met with so far, as well as the dates that you met with. I request this per the Sunshine Law requirements that you are operating under.
>
> John Lum
that he said he did outreach to Zspace, they said they've never spoken
to him and don't agree with the meters and are the ones who offered a
space for everyone to meet on Jan 30th to oppose the plan.
HI Nicky,
Thanks for this. I will try to review. FYI, I have attached the e-
mail string that occurred your Dogpatch was involved for my request
for the survey information from Primus. I sent my e-mail to him on
January 12, 2012.
John Lum
Jay:
This is not acceptable.
You mean to tell me that you are using a federal grant of over $20
million dollars to implement your metering program and you don't have
any records to document who you met with, or who influenced your
decision making? I am shocked that you cannot provide a log of the
people that you have met. Do you have any standards that you are held
too when you are administrating a grant/tax payer money?
The whole point of a community outreach is to try to engage the
community in a meaningful dialogue. Your admittance that you have no
records of this outreach demonstrates to me that your agency again,
has failed to meet any standards when it comes to conducting a
meaningful dialogue with the community that you are purportedly trying
to help. You cannot prove that you met with anyone without records of
these meetings. I sat on a Commission for ten years, and it is
irresponsible that your meetings with the public are not documented.
You claim that you have sent out drafts to major stake holders over
150 people, yet you have no record of this?
In your outreach to the stakeholders in our community you
unfortunately left out all of the people who live here. You claim
that you met with Project Artaud who you said were supportive of the
metering, yet several artists last week who live in that complex told
me that you never met with anyone there, and certainly not with anyone
who had any authority.
To blame Planning or Supervisor Kim's office for the limited outreach
does not absolve you of the failure to conduct an outreach to the
residents as well as the numerous small businesses that exist here.
Also posting English only signs in a neighborhood that is multilingual
is culturally insensitive, and also shows how out of touch your agency
is to the needs of our community.
From your e-mail, you admit that you basically gave only a month to
unveil the program to the general public.
Do you really think this is fair and is a reasonable time to get
consensus on a program that has a substantial financial and
environmental impact on our neighborhood? I requested that you
postpone this hearing for at least a month and you refused, saying
that you gave my community plenty of time to comment.
Is that why the Dog Patch neighborhood has collected over 1000
signatures to oppose this plan? Is that why we had over 50 people
last week attend a meeting last week opposing your plan for the
Mission?
You would think that if you actually wanted to build consensus and get
support for your program you would want to engage in a dialogue with
the people who at going to have to live with consequences of your
program.
For someone who purportedly is creating a progressive parking program
to better our environment, it's ironic how you have missed the part
about inclusion and
Iistening to the community.
Your lack of documentation is unacceptable and your inability to give
me the names of the people you met with goes directly against the
intent of the Sunshine Ordinance.
I again, formally ask you to postpone the hearing for this plan, and
restart the neighborhood outreach program, as you have no proof that
you actually have done one.
John Lum
On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Primus, Jay wrote:
> John,
>
> In response to your sunshine request, the SFMTA does not have records of the specific dates of meetings or a list of the groups, but we hope the following information will be useful to you. To summarize outreach to date for the 17th & Folsom parking management proposal:
>
> · Last summer we did door-to-door initial outreach and met with Sup. Kim’s office
> · Through the summer, fall, and winter met with key stakeholders, primarily large institutions/employers, including the UCSF Mission Center, Oberlin Dance Collective, Mission Neighborhood Health Center, PODER, Animation Studio, and Z space. That list of groups was reviewed by Sup. Kim’s office and the Planning Department, who did not have others to suggest.
> · The SFMTA refined the proposal this fall as a result of those meetings, and then again after meeting with some community members that had been recommended by the Planning Department as individuals who had been active community leaders during the park planning process.
> · In November, the SFMTA sent the review draft of the proposal to 150+ people (to an email list provided by the Planning Department that was assembled as part of their outreach for the park at the parking lot).
> · In mid-December, the SFMTA then sent the revised proposal to 220+ people in mid-December.
> · In both November and December the plan was also posted on the SFpark.org site to ensure that it was broadly available.
> · As part of the public engineering hearing on the proposal for 1/13, the SFMTA also posted formal public notices on every block.
> · To avoid conflicts with the holidays, and in recognition of the significance of this proposal, the SFMTA moved the public hearing date from 1/6 to 1/13.
> · This fall and winter, the SFMTA has responded to approximately 75 emails related to this proposal, whether by phone or email, to respond to the questions and issues raised by each person.
>
> Thank you ----
>
> Jay
>
>
>
> From: John Lum [mailto:jo...@johnlumarchitecture.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:29 AM
> To: Primus, Jay
> Cc: Susette Blackwell
> Subject: Re: SFMTA >> Revised parking management proposal for the 17th & Folsom area
>
> Jay:
>
> I don't think your outreach has been sufficient. Our group was notified on November 16th about your plan.
>
> Could you please explain your process? How did you identify the stake holders, and the leaders in our community? Is there a protocol that SFMTA follows, or is this a made up process?
>
> Also, I would like a list of the people/organizations who you have met with so far, as well as the dates that you met with. I request this per the Sunshine Law requirements that you are operating under.
>
> John Lum
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