days of splendour

[archytas]

I just started to watch an old Peter Cook film - found myself wishing
I was watching it with Vam. Starts with an Indian guy being shot
trying to deliver vital Rahj Mail. He passes the missive on to his
faithful horse. Many faithful servants of the Rahj then die getting
the mail through. Cook then opens it and declares, in complete
dismissal of all the empire heroism, that it is his invitation to join
the Monte Carlo Rally. I was wondering what we could share in this
form of riddicule of the sad days of colonialisation, what
embarrassment we should feel in laughing at all and what thoughts we
could share about those who still believe the 'unworthy' should be so
dedicated to their fool dreams and superiority.

[Lee]

I myself an the product of imperial India. My grandfather was the
harbour master in Mumbai in the 30's, before he shipped his Indian
wife and kids back over to Blighty.

I don't remember much of hm, but I do remember his house being full of
all sorts of interesting things.

[Vamadevananda]

Lee, great to go through your recall ! The roots in ancestry is not
just material ... it's all the nurturing memories we have of it.

Neil, those " fool dreams and superiority " cause a lot of
excruciating pain and misery to others ! I myself would give anything
to spend sometime with you. I think of you when I see a father lead
her little daughter upto the school bus.

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[frantheman]

I'd rather watch some Merchant-Ivory fims with Vam, especially "A
Journey to India" or, even more, "Heat and Dust". I'm sure we could
have some great discussions - in a gentle, civilised environment!

Francis

[Pat]

On 4 Jul, 16:38, Vamadevananda <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lee, great to go through your recall !  The roots in ancestry is not
> just material ... it's all the nurturing memories we have of it.
>
> Neil, those " fool dreams and superiority "  cause a lot of
> excruciating pain and misery to others !  I myself would give anything
> to spend sometime with you. I think of you when I see a father lead
> her little daughter upto the school bus.
>

And, only in the most joking of senses, because of Neil, I'll
never look at a 'scrote' the same way. ;-)

Although one side of my family tree has been mapped out back to
the mid 1600's, I'd like to know more about some of the other
branches. The farther back we go, the closer we all get and the more
we find out about history and our ancestors' part in it. And it
doesn't matter, in the least, if those ancestors were farmers or kings
to me; it's the fact that they were there and played their part in the
story of humanity.

> On Jul 4, 7:36 pm, Lee <l...@rdfmedia.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I myself an the product of imperial India.  My grandfather was the
> > harbour master in Mumbai in the 30's, before he shipped his Indian
> > wife and kids back over to Blighty.
>
> > I don't remember much of hm, but I do remember his house being full of
> > all sorts of interesting things.
>
> > On 4 Jul, 15:10, archytas <nwte...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I just started to watch an old Peter Cook film - found myself wishing
> > > I was watching it with Vam.  Starts with an Indian guy being shot
> > > trying to deliver vital Rahj Mail.  He passes the missive on to his
> > > faithful horse.  Many faithful servants of the Rahj then die getting
> > > the mail through.  Cook then opens it and declares, in complete
> > > dismissal of all the empire heroism, that it is his invitation to join
> > > the Monte Carlo Rally.  I was wondering what we could share in this
> > > form of riddicule of the sad days of colonialisation, what
> > > embarrassment we should feel in laughing at all and what thoughts we
> > > could share about those who still believe the 'unworthy' should be so
> > > dedicated to their fool dreams and superiority.- Hide quoted text -
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[Pat]

On 4 Jul, 16:59, frantheman <francis.h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I'd rather watch some Merchant-Ivory fims with Vam, especially "A
> Journey to India" or, even more, "Heat and Dust". I'm sure we could
> have some great discussions - in a gentle, civilised environment!
>
> Francis
>

While you'd like to watch a film with Vam, I'd like to take a walk
with him through some local Indian forest/jungle and see the land and
the natural world there through HIS eyes as well as mine. And, of
course, various spots of historical significance and sacred sites.
Plenty to talk about there, too.

> On Jul 4, 4:10 pm, archytas <nwte...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I just started to watch an old Peter Cook film - found myself wishing
> > I was watching it with Vam.  Starts with an Indian guy being shot
> > trying to deliver vital Rahj Mail.  He passes the missive on to his
> > faithful horse.  Many faithful servants of the Rahj then die getting
> > the mail through.  Cook then opens it and declares, in complete
> > dismissal of all the empire heroism, that it is his invitation to join
> > the Monte Carlo Rally.  I was wondering what we could share in this
> > form of riddicule of the sad days of colonialisation, what
> > embarrassment we should feel in laughing at all and what thoughts we
> > could share about those who still believe the 'unworthy' should be so

[Vamadevananda]

Ah, Pat, how I wish the day came sooner than later !

But, am I not glad your new job will possibly provide the wherewithal
for such an extended holiday ... in, perhaps, three years time ?

Lots of love.

Fran, let's look forward to a possible union sometime in future !

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[archytas]

Monte Carlo or bust stops being funny after a while. The best Peter
Cook film is 'The Rise and Rise of Michael Rimmer'. I thought Monte
Carlo was worth mentioning because we can laugh at it from all side
now - though as Vam points out we are laughing at real and continuing
pain - perhaps self-ridicule is the only apology the English can
make? Harrington lacked his usual charm - must be the stress of all
that flying! I wonder if Vam had a glimpse of my poor, oppressed
brother? He and his wife had 5 girls who led him by the nose. I
looked after the eldest two for a while and that was enough for me!
Fortunately, the dog loved them dearly and took some of the strain of
guardianship.

[Chris Jenkins]

Does this explain your attraction to Sikhism?

[chazwin]

What's the name of the film?

[Lee]

No not at all, you would have thought that was the case though.

I was just looking at religoin in general, looking at the differances
and the simularities, and Sikhi just had all of the ingrediants that
matched the majority of own thoughts and feelings on questions of God.

Heh but you should have seem my Nan's face the first time she saw me
all turbanated!

[archytas]

Monte Carlo or Bust was the film - the other, better one is The Rise
and Rise of Michael Rimmer. I note Lee is now a self-confessed
Grannie shocker - the swine!

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[Lee]

Theres nowt like it in the world mate, don't knock it 'till you tried
it huh huh!