I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session (monthly or semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a single project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so implementation is definitely still up for debate. For example: - We could start a new project or contribute to an existing one. - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it could fill a need for a local/global non-profit. - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or more!). - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in one meeting or a bigger project that spans months. I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming for almost everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it. I'm personally excited to be able to do some pair programming and behavior-driven development with people who actually might know what they're doing. =)
So, let's hear it: brainstorming on all of the points I listed (and more, if you come up with them). Go!
:brad
PS: I'll start: My idea is a google maps mashup-like site that gives bicycle commuters the opportunity to form and join group rides to/from work.
* You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter of Amigos of
the Americas. High school volunteers spend 3 months organizing and
making a community project a success in a poor community in Latin
America. Plane tickets, and also materials for projects are paid for
by fund raising done by the student volunteers. Currently, this is an
unholy, error prone nightmare involving spreadsheets on a per
volunteer basis, high school students losing their lists of who
donated what, etc.
The Rails application would be a success with even a partial list of
these features:
-database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?, money
received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
-email donation request sending
-form letter printing in PDF
-for donation requests
-for thank yous
-for tax receipts
-taking donations online
-printing tax receipts online
-a fun social network for volunteers to share their experiences &
photos with their friends & family who donated, as well as each other
-lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely come up with.
Again, we can start simple, with just donor status tracking, be a
success and add one new feature at a time
What do you think?
Thanks!
-Steve-
On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session (monthly or
> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a single
> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so
> implementation is definitely still up for debate. For example:
> - We could start a new project or contribute to an existing one.
> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it could fill a
> need for a local/global non-profit.
> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or more!).
> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in one meeting
> or a bigger project that spans months.
> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming for almost
> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it. I'm
> personally excited to be able to do some pair programming and
> behavior-driven development with people who actually might know what
> they're doing. =)
> So, let's hear it: brainstorming on all of the points I listed (and
> more, if you come up with them). Go!
> :brad
> PS: I'll start: My idea is a google maps mashup-like site that gives
> bicycle commuters the opportunity to form and join group rides to/ > from work.
> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I
> have another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely interested in
this?
If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and pair them up with
an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails and Madison
communities. =)
And while I have no issues personally with Steve's suggestion of Amigos, if
it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun project, suggest your own
fun project!
:brad
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
> Cool Idea! I'm game!
> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>. High school
> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a community project a
> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane tickets, and also
> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done by the student
> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone nightmare involving
> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school students losing their
> lists of who donated what, etc.
> The Rails application would be a success with even a partial list of these
> features:
> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?, money received?,
> thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
> -email donation request sending
> -form letter printing in PDF
> -for donation requests
> -for thank yous
> -for tax receipts
> -taking donations online
> -printing tax receipts online
> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their experiences & photos
> with their friends & family who donated, as well as each other
> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely come up with.
> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status tracking, be a success
> and add one new feature at a time
> What do you think?
> Thanks!
> -Steve-
> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> Hey Railers!
> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session (monthly or
> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a single
> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so implementation is
> definitely still up for debate. For example:
> - We could start a new project or contribute to an existing one.
> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it could fill a need
> for a local/global non-profit.
> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or more!).
> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in one meeting or a
> bigger project that spans months.
> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming for almost
> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it. I'm personally
> excited to be able to do some pair programming and behavior-driven
> development with people who actually might know what they're doing. =)
> So, let's hear it: brainstorming on all of the points I listed (and more,
> if you come up with them). Go!
> :brad
> PS: I'll start: My idea is a google maps mashup-like site that gives
> bicycle commuters the opportunity to form and join group rides to/from work.
> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have
> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
* You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not divulge
this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have another
address for such uses; please ask me for it.
I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps being a bit
cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the "real" world. On the
other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a big deal in Madison,
and we could probably get some good traction/interest in the project. What
about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when it's raining =D)?
I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the mymetrobus.com site
is far from awesome. Is this too much?
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely interested in
> this?
> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and pair them up with
> an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails and Madison
> communities. =)
> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's suggestion of Amigos, if
> it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun project, suggest your own
> fun project!
> :brad
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>. High school
>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a community project a
>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane tickets, and also
>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done by the student
>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone nightmare involving
>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school students losing their
>> lists of who donated what, etc.
>> The Rails application would be a success with even a partial list of these
>> features:
>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?, money
>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
>> -email donation request sending
>> -form letter printing in PDF
>> -for donation requests
>> -for thank yous
>> -for tax receipts
>> -taking donations online
>> -printing tax receipts online
>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their experiences & photos
>> with their friends & family who donated, as well as each other
>> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely come up with.
>> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status tracking, be a success
>> and add one new feature at a time
>> What do you think?
>> Thanks!
>> -Steve-
>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>> Hey Railers!
>> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session (monthly or
>> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a single
>> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so implementation is
>> definitely still up for debate. For example:
>> - We could start a new project or contribute to an existing one.
>> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it could fill a need
>> for a local/global non-profit.
>> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or more!).
>> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in one meeting or a
>> bigger project that spans months.
>> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming for almost
>> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it. I'm personally
>> excited to be able to do some pair programming and behavior-driven
>> development with people who actually might know what they're doing. =)
>> So, let's hear it: brainstorming on all of the points I listed (and more,
>> if you come up with them). Go!
>> :brad
>> PS: I'll start: My idea is a google maps mashup-like site that gives
>> bicycle commuters the opportunity to form and join group rides to/from work.
>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have
>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have
> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good for my schedule
I'm in.
In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the metro site and get
that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any verification if
it is actually someone official submiting the info:
http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would love to chip-in.
> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps being a bit
> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the "real" world. On the
> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a big deal in Madison,
> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in the project. What
> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when it's raining =D)?
> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the mymetrobus.com site
> is far from awesome. Is this too much?
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely interested in
>> this?
>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and pair them up with
>> an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails and Madison
>> communities. =)
>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's suggestion of Amigos,
>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun project, suggest your
>> own fun project!
>> :brad
>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>. High school
>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a community project a
>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane tickets, and also
>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done by the student
>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone nightmare involving
>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school students losing their
>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a partial list of
>>> these features:
>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?, money
>>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
>>> -email donation request sending
>>> -form letter printing in PDF
>>> -for donation requests
>>> -for thank yous
>>> -for tax receipts
>>> -taking donations online
>>> -printing tax receipts online
>>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their experiences & photos
>>> with their friends & family who donated, as well as each other
>>> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely come up with.
>>> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status tracking, be a success
>>> and add one new feature at a time
>>> What do you think?
>>> Thanks!
>>> -Steve-
>>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>>> Hey Railers!
>>> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session (monthly or
>>> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a single
>>> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so implementation is
>>> definitely still up for debate. For example:
>>> - We could start a new project or contribute to an existing one.
>>> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it could fill a need
>>> for a local/global non-profit.
>>> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or more!).
>>> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in one meeting or a
>>> bigger project that spans months.
>>> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming for almost
>>> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it. I'm personally
>>> excited to be able to do some pair programming and behavior-driven
>>> development with people who actually might know what they're doing. =)
>>> So, let's hear it: brainstorming on all of the points I listed (and more,
>>> if you come up with them). Go!
>>> :brad
>>> PS: I'll start: My idea is a google maps mashup-like site that gives
>>> bicycle commuters the opportunity to form and join group rides to/from work.
>>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
>>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have
>>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have
>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
-- Abraham Williams | http://the.hackerconundrum.com Web608 | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
Sent from: Madison Wi United States.
While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion =), I think we'd
still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on the webapp to
make. I don't want to discourage people just because it seems we're on a
particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour will be spent
brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one-minute pitch (yes, *
one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be spent in groups
of 2 or 3, independently working on:
- setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
- sketching out model interaction
- sketching out look and feel
- writing up stories for project tracking
- anything else
We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much prefer somewhere in
the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting, I will be
around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're interested,
please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5 (Monday, Wednesday
or Thursday).
:brad
PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only one is specific
to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming will fill in any
gaps in knowledge.
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams <4bra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good for my schedule
> I'm in.
> In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the metro site and get
> that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any verification if
> it is actually someone official submiting the info:
> http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I would love to chip-in.
>> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps being a bit
>> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the "real" world. On the
>> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a big deal in Madison,
>> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in the project. What
>> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when it's raining =D)?
>> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely interested in
>>> this?
>>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and pair them up
>>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails and Madison
>>> communities. =)
>>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's suggestion of Amigos,
>>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun project, suggest your
>>> own fun project!
>>> :brad
>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <step...@bendycode.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
>>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
>>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>. High school
>>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a community project a
>>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane tickets, and also
>>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done by the student
>>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone nightmare involving
>>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school students losing their
>>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
>>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a partial list of
>>>> these features:
>>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?, money
>>>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
>>>> -email donation request sending
>>>> -form letter printing in PDF
>>>> -for donation requests
>>>> -for thank yous
>>>> -for tax receipts
>>>> -taking donations online
>>>> -printing tax receipts online
>>>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their experiences & photos
>>>> with their friends & family who donated, as well as each other
>>>> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely come up with.
>>>> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status tracking, be a
>>>> success and add one new feature at a time
>>>> What do you think?
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> -Steve-
>>>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>>>> Hey Railers!
>>>> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session (monthly or
>>>> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a single
>>>> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so implementation is
>>>> definitely still up for debate. For example:
>>>> - We could start a new project or contribute to an existing one.
>>>> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it could fill a need
>>>> for a local/global non-profit.
>>>> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or more!).
>>>> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in one meeting or a
>>>> bigger project that spans months.
>>>> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming for almost
>>>> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it. I'm personally
>>>> excited to be able to do some pair programming and behavior-driven
>>>> development with people who actually might know what they're doing. =)
>>>> So, let's hear it: brainstorming on all of the points I listed (and
>>>> more, if you come up with them). Go!
>>>> :brad
>>>> PS: I'll start: My idea is a google maps mashup-like site that gives
>>>> bicycle commuters the opportunity to form and join group rides to/from work.
>>>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
>>>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have
>>>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
>>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
>>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have
>>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> --
> Abraham Williams | http://the.hackerconundrum.com > Web608 | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org > This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
> Sent from: Madison Wi United States.
* You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not divulge
this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have another
address for such uses; please ask me for it.
I'd be interested in helping out. I'm not sure which dates work yet though
as I am in an adult hockey league and that week we have playoffs. Feel free
to pick a date without me and if I can make it I'll be there. Otherwise I'll
catch up next time.
-Jon Kinney
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
> While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion =), I think
> we'd still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on the webapp
> to make. I don't want to discourage people just because it seems we're on a
> particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
> Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour will be spent
> brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one-minute pitch (yes,
> *one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be spent in
> groups of 2 or 3, independently working on:
> - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
> - sketching out model interaction
> - sketching out look and feel
> - writing up stories for project tracking
> - anything else
> We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much prefer somewhere
> in the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
> Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting, I will be
> around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're interested,
> please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5 (Monday, Wednesday
> or Thursday).
> :brad
> PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only one is
> specific to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming will fill
> in any gaps in knowledge.
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams <4bra...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good for my
>> schedule I'm in.
>> In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the metro site and get
>> that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any verification if
>> it is actually someone official submiting the info:
>> http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I would love to chip-in.
>>> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps being a bit
>>> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the "real" world. On the
>>> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a big deal in Madison,
>>> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in the project. What
>>> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when it's raining =D)?
>>> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
>>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely interested in
>>>> this?
>>>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and pair them up
>>>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails and Madison
>>>> communities. =)
>>>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's suggestion of Amigos,
>>>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun project, suggest your
>>>> own fun project!
>>>> :brad
>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <
>>>> step...@bendycode.com> wrote:
>>>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
>>>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
>>>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>. High school
>>>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a community project a
>>>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane tickets, and also
>>>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done by the student
>>>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone nightmare involving
>>>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school students losing their
>>>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
>>>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a partial list of
>>>>> these features:
>>>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?, money
>>>>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
>>>>> -email donation request sending
>>>>> -form letter printing in PDF
>>>>> -for donation requests
>>>>> -for thank yous
>>>>> -for tax receipts
>>>>> -taking donations online
>>>>> -printing tax receipts online
>>>>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their experiences &
>>>>> photos with their friends & family who donated, as well as each other
>>>>> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely come up with.
>>>>> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status tracking, be a
>>>>> success and add one new feature at a time
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> -Steve-
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>>>>> Hey Railers!
>>>>> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session (monthly or
>>>>> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a single
>>>>> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so implementation is
>>>>> definitely still up for debate. For example:
>>>>> - We could start a new project or contribute to an existing one.
>>>>> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it could fill a
>>>>> need for a local/global non-profit.
>>>>> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or more!).
>>>>> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in one meeting or
>>>>> a bigger project that spans months.
>>>>> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming for almost
>>>>> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it. I'm personally
>>>>> excited to be able to do some pair programming and behavior-driven
>>>>> development with people who actually might know what they're doing. =)
>>>>> So, let's hear it: brainstorming on all of the points I listed (and
>>>>> more, if you come up with them). Go!
>>>>> :brad
>>>>> PS: I'll start: My idea is a google maps mashup-like site that gives
>>>>> bicycle commuters the opportunity to form and join group rides to/from work.
>>>>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
>>>>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have
>>>>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
>>>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
>>>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have
>>>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
>> --
>> Abraham Williams | http://the.hackerconundrum.com >> Web608 | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org >> This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
>> Sent from: Madison Wi United States.
> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have
> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion =), I think we'd
> still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on the webapp to
> make. I don't want to discourage people just because it seems we're on a
> particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
> Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour will be spent
> brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one-minute pitch (yes, *
> one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be spent in groups
> of 2 or 3, independently working on:
> - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
> - sketching out model interaction
> - sketching out look and feel
> - writing up stories for project tracking
> - anything else
> We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much prefer somewhere in
> the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
> Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting, I will be
> around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're interested,
> please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5 (Monday, Wednesday
> or Thursday).
> :brad
> PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only one is specific
> to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming will fill in any
> gaps in knowledge.
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams <4bra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good for my schedule
> > I'm in.
> > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the metro site and get
> > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any verification if
> > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
> >http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html
> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I would love to chip-in.
> >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps being a bit
> >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the "real" world. On the
> >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a big deal in Madison,
> >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in the project. What
> >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when it's raining =D)?
> >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
> >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely interested in
> >>> this?
> >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and pair them up
> >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails and Madison
> >>> communities. =)
> >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's suggestion of Amigos,
> >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun project, suggest your
> >>> own fun project!
> >>> :brad
> >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <step...@bendycode.com
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
> >>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
> >>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>. High school
> >>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a community project a
> >>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane tickets, and also
> >>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done by the student
> >>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone nightmare involving
> >>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school students losing their
> >>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
> >>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a partial list of
> >>>> these features:
> >>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?, money
> >>>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
> >>>> -email donation request sending
> >>>> -form letter printing in PDF
> >>>> -for donation requests
> >>>> -for thank yous
> >>>> -for tax receipts
> >>>> -taking donations online
> >>>> -printing tax receipts online
> >>>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their experiences & photos
> >>>> with their friends & family who donated, as well as each other
> >>>> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely come up with.
> >>>> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status tracking, be a
> >>>> success and add one new feature at a time
> >>>> What do you think?
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>> -Steve-
> >>>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> >>>> Hey Railers!
> >>>> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session (monthly or
> >>>> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a single
> >>>> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so implementation is
> >>>> definitely still up for debate. For example:
> >>>> - We could start a new project or contribute to an existing one.
> >>>> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it could fill a need
> >>>> for a local/global non-profit.
> >>>> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or more!).
> >>>> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in one meeting or a
> >>>> bigger project that spans months.
> >>>> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming for almost
> >>>> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it. I'm personally
> >>>> excited to be able to do some pair programming and behavior-driven
> >>>> development with people who actually might know what they're doing. =)
> >>>> So, let's hear it: brainstorming on all of the points I listed (and
> >>>> more, if you come up with them). Go!
> >>>> :brad
> >>>> PS: I'll start: My idea is a google maps mashup-like site that gives
> >>>> bicycle commuters the opportunity to form and join group rides to/from work.
> >>>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
> >>>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have
> >>>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> >>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
> >>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have
> >>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> > --
> > Abraham Williams |http://the.hackerconundrum.com > > Web608 | Community Evangelist |http://web608.org > > This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
> > Sent from: Madison Wi United States.
> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not divulge
> this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have another
> address for such uses; please ask me for it.
If you're interested in joining us, you have until 6pm Thursday to declare
your availability (on March 2, 4, or 5) to me. After that, I'll choose a
date that works best. Why don't we plan on meeting at 7:30 at Barriques off
the square (first block of West Washington) on the day chosen? (suggestions
for a change of venue still accepted!)
Also, if you have ideas, send them to this list so that you can get better
traction amongst the group before giving your one-minute pitch.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep I like both ideas, Steve's and :brad's
> Count me in...
> The question is When and Where and how do we start.
> hani
> On Feb 23, 1:37 pm, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion =), I think
> we'd
> > still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on the webapp
> to
> > make. I don't want to discourage people just because it seems we're on a
> > particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
> > Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour will be spent
> > brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one-minute pitch
> (yes, *
> > one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be spent in
> groups
> > of 2 or 3, independently working on:
> > - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
> > - sketching out model interaction
> > - sketching out look and feel
> > - writing up stories for project tracking
> > - anything else
> > We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much prefer somewhere
> in
> > the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
> > Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting, I will be
> > around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're interested,
> > please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5 (Monday,
> Wednesday
> > or Thursday).
> > :brad
> > PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only one is
> specific
> > to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming will fill in
> any
> > gaps in knowledge.
> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams <4bra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good for my
> schedule
> > > I'm in.
> > > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the metro site and
> get
> > > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any
> verification if
> > > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
> > >http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html
> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> I would love to chip-in.
> > >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps being a bit
> > >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the "real" world. On
> the
> > >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a big deal in
> Madison,
> > >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in the project.
> What
> > >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when it's raining
> =D)?
> > >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the
> mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <
> listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely interested
> in
> > >>> this?
> > >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and pair them up
> > >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails and Madison
> > >>> communities. =)
> > >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's suggestion of
> Amigos,
> > >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun project,
> suggest your
> > >>> own fun project!
> > >>> :brad
> > >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <
> step...@bendycode.com
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
> > >>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<
> http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
> > >>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>. High
> school
> > >>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a community project
> a
> > >>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane tickets, and
> also
> > >>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done by the
> student
> > >>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone nightmare
> involving
> > >>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school students losing
> their
> > >>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
> > >>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a partial list of
> > >>>> these features:
> > >>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?, money
> > >>>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
> > >>>> -email donation request sending
> > >>>> -form letter printing in PDF
> > >>>> -for donation requests
> > >>>> -for thank yous
> > >>>> -for tax receipts
> > >>>> -taking donations online
> > >>>> -printing tax receipts online
> > >>>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their experiences &
> photos
> > >>>> with their friends & family who donated, as well as each other
> > >>>> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely come up with.
> > >>>> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status tracking, be a
> > >>>> success and add one new feature at a time
> > >>>> What do you think?
> > >>>> Thanks!
> > >>>> -Steve-
> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> > >>>> Hey Railers!
> > >>>> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session (monthly or
> > >>>> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a single
> > >>>> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so
> implementation is
> > >>>> definitely still up for debate. For example:
> > >>>> - We could start a new project or contribute to an existing one.
> > >>>> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it could fill a
> need
> > >>>> for a local/global non-profit.
> > >>>> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or more!).
> > >>>> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in one meeting
> or a
> > >>>> bigger project that spans months.
> > >>>> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming for almost
> > >>>> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it. I'm
> personally
> > >>>> excited to be able to do some pair programming and behavior-driven
> > >>>> development with people who actually might know what they're doing.
> =)
> > >>>> So, let's hear it: brainstorming on all of the points I listed (and
> > >>>> more, if you come up with them). Go!
> > >>>> :brad
> > >>>> PS: I'll start: My idea is a google maps mashup-like site that gives
> > >>>> bicycle commuters the opportunity to form and join group rides
> to/from work.
> > >>>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
> > >>>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I
> have
> > >>>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> > >>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
> > >>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I
> have
> > >>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> > > --
> > > Abraham Williams |http://the.hackerconundrum.com > > > Web608 | Community Evangelist |http://web608.org > > > This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
> > > Sent from: Madison Wi United States.
> > * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
> divulge
> > this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have another
> > address for such uses; please ask me for it.
* You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not divulge
this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have another
address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> If you're interested in joining us, you have until 6pm Thursday to
> declare your availability (on March 2, 4, or 5) to me. After that,
> I'll choose a date that works best. Why don't we plan on meeting at
> 7:30 at Barriques off the square (first block of West Washington) on
> the day chosen? (suggestions for a change of venue still accepted!)
> Also, if you have ideas, send them to this list so that you can get
> better traction amongst the group before giving your one-minute pitch.
> :brad
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep I like both ideas, Steve's and :brad's
> Count me in...
> The question is When and Where and how do we start.
> hani
> On Feb 23, 1:37 pm, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion =), I
> think we'd
> > still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on the
> webapp to
> > make. I don't want to discourage people just because it seems
> we're on a
> > particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
> > Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour will be
> spent
> > brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one-minute
> pitch (yes, *
> > one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be spent
> in groups
> > of 2 or 3, independently working on:
> > - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
> > - sketching out model interaction
> > - sketching out look and feel
> > - writing up stories for project tracking
> > - anything else
> > We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much prefer
> somewhere in
> > the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
> > Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting, I
> will be
> > around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're
> interested,
> > please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5 (Monday,
> Wednesday
> > or Thursday).
> > :brad
> > PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only one
> is specific
> > to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming will
> fill in any
> > gaps in knowledge.
> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams
> <4bra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good for
> my schedule
> > > I'm in.
> > > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the metro
> site and get
> > > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any
> verification if
> > > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
> > >http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html
> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer
> <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> I would love to chip-in.
> > >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps being a bit
> > >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the "real"
> world. On the
> > >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a big
> deal in Madison,
> > >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in the
> project. What
> > >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when it's
> raining =D)?
> > >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the
> mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak
> <listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely
> interested in
> > >>> this?
> > >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and pair
> them up
> > >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails and
> Madison
> > >>> communities. =)
> > >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's suggestion
> of Amigos,
> > >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun project,
> suggest your
> > >>> own fun project!
> > >>> :brad
> > >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson
> <step...@bendycode.com
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
> > >>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<http://www.amigosmadison.org/
> > >>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>. > High school
> > >>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a community
> project a
> > >>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane tickets,
> and also
> > >>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done by
> the student
> > >>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone
> nightmare involving
> > >>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school students
> losing their
> > >>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
> > >>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a partial
> list of
> > >>>> these features:
> > >>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?,
> money
> > >>>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
> > >>>> -email donation request sending
> > >>>> -form letter printing in PDF
> > >>>> -for donation requests
> > >>>> -for thank yous
> > >>>> -for tax receipts
> > >>>> -taking donations online
> > >>>> -printing tax receipts online
> > >>>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their
> experiences & photos
> > >>>> with their friends & family who donated, as well as each other
> > >>>> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely come up
> with.
> > >>>> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status tracking,
> be a
> > >>>> success and add one new feature at a time
> > >>>> What do you think?
> > >>>> Thanks!
> > >>>> -Steve-
> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> > >>>> Hey Railers!
> > >>>> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session
> (monthly or
> > >>>> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a
> single
> > >>>> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so
> implementation is
> > >>>> definitely still up for debate. For example:
> > >>>> - We could start a new project or contribute to an existing
> one.
> > >>>> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it could
> fill a need
> > >>>> for a local/global non-profit.
> > >>>> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or more!).
> > >>>> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in one
> meeting or a
> > >>>> bigger project that spans months.
> > >>>> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming for
> almost
> > >>>> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it. I'm
> personally
> > >>>> excited to be able to do some pair programming and behavior- > driven
> > >>>> development with people who actually might know what they're
> doing. =)
> > >>>> So, let's hear it: brainstorming on all of the points I
> listed (and
> > >>>> more, if you come up with them). Go!
> > >>>> :brad
> > >>>> PS: I'll start: My idea is a google maps mashup-like site
> that gives
> > >>>> bicycle commuters the opportunity to form and join group
> rides to/from work.
> > >>>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please
> do not
> > >>>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly,
> etc). I have
> > >>>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> > >>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please
> do not
> > >>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly,
> etc). I have
> > >>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> > > --
> > > Abraham Williams |http://the.hackerconundrum.com > > > Web608 | Community Evangelist |http://web608.org > > > This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
> > > Sent from: Madison Wi United States.
> > * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do
> not divulge
> > this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have
> another
> > address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I
> have another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
I have class 2nd + 4th, and family engagements on the 5th. I can offer
campfire/basecamp project space if we want to "meet" remotely (ichat or
whatever too).
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Stephen Anderson <step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
> I'm substitute teaching on the 5th and want to be as caught up on the
> materials as I can be.
> Sorry,
> -Steve-
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> If you're interested in joining us, you have until 6pm Thursday to declare
> your availability (on March 2, 4, or 5) to me. After that, I'll choose a
> date that works best. Why don't we plan on meeting at 7:30 at Barriques off
> the square (first block of West Washington) on the day chosen? (suggestions
> for a change of venue still accepted!)
> Also, if you have ideas, send them to this list so that you can get better
> traction amongst the group before giving your one-minute pitch.
> :brad
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yep I like both ideas, Steve's and :brad's
>> Count me in...
>> The question is When and Where and how do we start.
>> hani
>> On Feb 23, 1:37 pm, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion =), I think
>> we'd
>> > still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on the webapp
>> to
>> > make. I don't want to discourage people just because it seems we're on a
>> > particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
>> > Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour will be spent
>> > brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one-minute pitch
>> (yes, *
>> > one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be spent in
>> groups
>> > of 2 or 3, independently working on:
>> > - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
>> > - sketching out model interaction
>> > - sketching out look and feel
>> > - writing up stories for project tracking
>> > - anything else
>> > We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much prefer
>> somewhere in
>> > the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
>> > Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting, I will be
>> > around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're interested,
>> > please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5 (Monday,
>> Wednesday
>> > or Thursday).
>> > :brad
>> > PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only one is
>> specific
>> > to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming will fill in
>> any
>> > gaps in knowledge.
>> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams <4bra...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good for my
>> schedule
>> > > I'm in.
>> > > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the metro site and
>> get
>> > > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any
>> verification if
>> > > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
>> > >http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html
>> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> I would love to chip-in.
>> > >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps being a bit
>> > >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the "real" world. On
>> the
>> > >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a big deal in
>> Madison,
>> > >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in the project.
>> What
>> > >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when it's
>> raining =D)?
>> > >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the
>> mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
>> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <
>> listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely interested
>> in
>> > >>> this?
>> > >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and pair them
>> up
>> > >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails and
>> Madison
>> > >>> communities. =)
>> > >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's suggestion of
>> Amigos,
>> > >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun project,
>> suggest your
>> > >>> own fun project!
>> > >>> :brad
>> > >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <
>> step...@bendycode.com
>> > >>> > wrote:
>> > >>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
>> > >>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<
>> http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
>> > >>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>. High
>> school
>> > >>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a community project
>> a
>> > >>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane tickets, and
>> also
>> > >>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done by the
>> student
>> > >>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone nightmare
>> involving
>> > >>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school students losing
>> their
>> > >>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
>> > >>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a partial list
>> of
>> > >>>> these features:
>> > >>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?, money
>> > >>>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
>> > >>>> -email donation request sending
>> > >>>> -form letter printing in PDF
>> > >>>> -for donation requests
>> > >>>> -for thank yous
>> > >>>> -for tax receipts
>> > >>>> -taking donations online
>> > >>>> -printing tax receipts online
>> > >>>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their experiences &
>> photos
>> > >>>> with their friends & family who donated, as well as each other
>> > >>>> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely come up with.
>> > >>>> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status tracking, be a
>> > >>>> success and add one new feature at a time
>> > >>>> What do you think?
>> > >>>> Thanks!
>> > >>>> -Steve-
>> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>> > >>>> Hey Railers!
>> > >>>> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session (monthly or
>> > >>>> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a
>> single
>> > >>>> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so
>> implementation is
>> > >>>> definitely still up for debate. For example:
>> > >>>> - We could start a new project or contribute to an existing one.
>> > >>>> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it could fill a
>> need
>> > >>>> for a local/global non-profit.
>> > >>>> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or more!).
>> > >>>> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in one meeting
>> or a
>> > >>>> bigger project that spans months.
>> > >>>> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming for almost
>> > >>>> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it. I'm
>> personally
>> > >>>> excited to be able to do some pair programming and behavior-driven
>> > >>>> development with people who actually might know what they're doing.
>> =)
>> > >>>> So, let's hear it: brainstorming on all of the points I listed (and
>> > >>>> more, if you come up with them). Go!
>> > >>>> :brad
>> > >>>> PS: I'll start: My idea is a google maps mashup-like site that
>> gives
>> > >>>> bicycle commuters the opportunity to form and join group rides
>> to/from work.
>> > >>>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do
>> not
>> > >>>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I
>> have
>> > >>>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
>> > >>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
>> > >>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I
>> have
>> > >>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
>> > > --
>> > > Abraham Williams |http://the.hackerconundrum.com >> > > Web608 | Community Evangelist |http://web608.org >> > > This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
>> > > Sent from: Madison Wi United States.
>> > * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
>> divulge
>> > this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have another
>> > address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have
> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> I have class 2nd + 4th, and family engagements on the 5th. I can offer
> campfire/basecamp project space if we want to "meet" remotely (ichat or
> whatever too).
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Stephen Anderson <step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
> > Hmmm...
> > I can't make those dates.
> > I'm substitute teaching on the 5th and want to be as caught up on the
> > materials as I can be.
> > Sorry,
> > -Steve-
> > On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> > If you're interested in joining us, you have until 6pm Thursday to declare
> > your availability (on March 2, 4, or 5) to me. After that, I'll choose a
> > date that works best. Why don't we plan on meeting at 7:30 at Barriques off
> > the square (first block of West Washington) on the day chosen? (suggestions
> > for a change of venue still accepted!)
> > Also, if you have ideas, send them to this list so that you can get better
> > traction amongst the group before giving your one-minute pitch.
> > :brad
> > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Yep I like both ideas, Steve's and :brad's
> >> Count me in...
> >> The question is When and Where and how do we start.
> >> hani
> >> On Feb 23, 1:37 pm, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion =), I think
> >> we'd
> >> > still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on the webapp
> >> to
> >> > make. I don't want to discourage people just because it seems we're on a
> >> > particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
> >> > Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour will be spent
> >> > brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one-minute pitch
> >> (yes, *
> >> > one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be spent in
> >> groups
> >> > of 2 or 3, independently working on:
> >> > - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
> >> > - sketching out model interaction
> >> > - sketching out look and feel
> >> > - writing up stories for project tracking
> >> > - anything else
> >> > We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much prefer
> >> somewhere in
> >> > the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
> >> > Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting, I will be
> >> > around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're interested,
> >> > please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5 (Monday,
> >> Wednesday
> >> > or Thursday).
> >> > :brad
> >> > PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only one is
> >> specific
> >> > to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming will fill in
> >> any
> >> > gaps in knowledge.
> >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams <4bra...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good for my
> >> schedule
> >> > > I'm in.
> >> > > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the metro site and
> >> get
> >> > > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any
> >> verification if
> >> > > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
> >> > >http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html
> >> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >> I would love to chip-in.
> >> > >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps being a bit
> >> > >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the "real" world. On
> >> the
> >> > >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a big deal in
> >> Madison,
> >> > >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in the project.
> >> What
> >> > >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when it's
> >> raining =D)?
> >> > >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the
> >> mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
> >> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <
> >> listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> > >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely interested
> >> in
> >> > >>> this?
> >> > >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and pair them
> >> up
> >> > >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails and
> >> Madison
> >> > >>> communities. =)
> >> > >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's suggestion of
> >> Amigos,
> >> > >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun project,
> >> suggest your
> >> > >>> own fun project!
> >> > >>> :brad
> >> > >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <
> >> step...@bendycode.com
> >> > >>> > wrote:
> >> > >>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
> >> > >>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<
> >>http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
> >> > >>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>. High
> >> school
> >> > >>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a community project
> >> a
> >> > >>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane tickets, and
> >> also
> >> > >>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done by the
> >> student
> >> > >>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone nightmare
> >> involving
> >> > >>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school students losing
> >> their
> >> > >>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
> >> > >>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a partial list
> >> of
> >> > >>>> these features:
> >> > >>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?, money
> >> > >>>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
> >> > >>>> -email donation request sending
> >> > >>>> -form letter printing in PDF
> >> > >>>> -for donation requests
> >> > >>>> -for thank yous
> >> > >>>> -for tax receipts
> >> > >>>> -taking donations online
> >> > >>>> -printing tax receipts online
> >> > >>>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their experiences &
> >> photos
> >> > >>>> with their friends & family who donated, as well as each other
> >> > >>>> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely come up with.
> >> > >>>> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status tracking, be a
> >> > >>>> success and add one new feature at a time
> >> > >>>> What do you think?
> >> > >>>> Thanks!
> >> > >>>> -Steve-
> >> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> >> > >>>> Hey Railers!
> >> > >>>> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session (monthly or
> >> > >>>> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a
> >> single
> >> > >>>> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so
> >> implementation is
> >> > >>>> definitely still up for debate. For example:
> >> > >>>> - We could start a new project or contribute to an existing one.
> >> > >>>> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it could fill a
> >> need
> >> > >>>> for a local/global non-profit.
> >> > >>>> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or more!).
> >> > >>>> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in one meeting
> >> or a
> >> > >>>> bigger project that spans months.
> >> > >>>> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming for almost
> >> > >>>> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it. I'm
> >> personally
> >> > >>>> excited to be able to do some pair programming and behavior-driven
> >> > >>>> development with people who actually might know what they're doing.
> >> =)
> >> > >>>> So, let's hear it: brainstorming on all of the points I listed (and
> >> > >>>> more, if you come up with them). Go!
> >> > >>>> :brad
> >> > >>>> PS: I'll start: My idea is a google maps mashup-like site that
> >> gives
> >> > >>>> bicycle commuters the opportunity to form and join group rides
> >> to/from work.
> >> > >>>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do
> >> not
> >> > >>>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I
> >> have
> >> > >>>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> >> > >>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
> >> > >>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I
> >> have
> >> > >>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> >> > > --
> >> > > Abraham Williams |http://the.hackerconundrum.com > >> > > Web608 | Community Evangelist |http://web608.org > >> > > This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
> >> > > Sent from: Madison Wi United States.
> >> > * You have received an email from my personal account. Please do not
> >> divulge
> >> > this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly, etc). I have another
> >> > address for such uses; please ask me for it.
OK, the fates have decided not to go with any of the dates I initially
selected. How about we try a weekend? Please respond with your
availability/preference on Saturday, March 7 and Sunday, March 8. We could
meet at any point during the day, as far as I'm concerned. Not too late,
though, because some people may want to stay longer and continue working.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi all,
> I also cannot make the 5th.
> I am open to any other dates.
> Hani
> On Feb 25, 1:50 pm, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have class 2nd + 4th, and family engagements on the 5th. I can offer
> > campfire/basecamp project space if we want to "meet" remotely (ichat or
> > whatever too).
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Stephen Anderson <step...@bendycode.com
> >wrote:
> > > Hmmm...
> > > I can't make those dates.
> > > I'm substitute teaching on the 5th and want to be as caught up on the
> > > materials as I can be.
> > > Sorry,
> > > -Steve-
> > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> > > If you're interested in joining us, you have until 6pm Thursday to
> declare
> > > your availability (on March 2, 4, or 5) to me. After that, I'll choose
> a
> > > date that works best. Why don't we plan on meeting at 7:30 at Barriques
> off
> > > the square (first block of West Washington) on the day chosen?
> (suggestions
> > > for a change of venue still accepted!)
> > > Also, if you have ideas, send them to this list so that you can get
> better
> > > traction amongst the group before giving your one-minute pitch.
> > > :brad
> > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Yep I like both ideas, Steve's and :brad's
> > >> Count me in...
> > >> The question is When and Where and how do we start.
> > >> hani
> > >> On Feb 23, 1:37 pm, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion =), I
> think
> > >> we'd
> > >> > still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on the
> webapp
> > >> to
> > >> > make. I don't want to discourage people just because it seems we're
> on a
> > >> > particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
> > >> > Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour will be
> spent
> > >> > brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one-minute pitch
> > >> (yes, *
> > >> > one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be spent
> in
> > >> groups
> > >> > of 2 or 3, independently working on:
> > >> > - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
> > >> > - sketching out model interaction
> > >> > - sketching out look and feel
> > >> > - writing up stories for project tracking
> > >> > - anything else
> > >> > We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much prefer
> > >> somewhere in
> > >> > the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
> > >> > Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting, I will
> be
> > >> > around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're
> interested,
> > >> > please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5 (Monday,
> > >> Wednesday
> > >> > or Thursday).
> > >> > :brad
> > >> > PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only one is
> > >> specific
> > >> > to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming will fill
> in
> > >> any
> > >> > gaps in knowledge.
> > >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams <
> 4bra...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good for my
> > >> schedule
> > >> > > I'm in.
> > >> > > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the metro site
> and
> > >> get
> > >> > > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any
> > >> verification if
> > >> > > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
> > >> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> I would love to chip-in.
> > >> > >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps being a bit
> > >> > >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the "real"
> world. On
> > >> the
> > >> > >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a big deal
> in
> > >> Madison,
> > >> > >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in the
> project.
> > >> What
> > >> > >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when it's
> > >> raining =D)?
> > >> > >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the
> > >> mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <
> > >> listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >> > >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely
> interested
> > >> in
> > >> > >>> this?
> > >> > >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and pair
> them
> > >> up
> > >> > >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails and
> > >> Madison
> > >> > >>> communities. =)
> > >> > >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's suggestion of
> > >> Amigos,
> > >> > >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun project,
> > >> suggest your
> > >> > >>> own fun project!
> > >> > >>> :brad
> > >> > >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <
> > >> step...@bendycode.com
> > >> > >>> > wrote:
> > >> > >>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
> > >> > >>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<
> > >>http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
> > >> > >>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>. High
> > >> school
> > >> > >>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a community
> project
> > >> a
> > >> > >>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane tickets,
> and
> > >> also
> > >> > >>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done by the
> > >> student
> > >> > >>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone
> nightmare
> > >> involving
> > >> > >>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school students
> losing
> > >> their
> > >> > >>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
> > >> > >>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a partial
> list
> > >> of
> > >> > >>>> these features:
> > >> > >>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?,
> money
> > >> > >>>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
> > >> > >>>> -email donation request sending
> > >> > >>>> -form letter printing in PDF
> > >> > >>>> -for donation requests
> > >> > >>>> -for thank yous
> > >> > >>>> -for tax receipts
> > >> > >>>> -taking donations online
> > >> > >>>> -printing tax receipts online
> > >> > >>>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their experiences
> &
> > >> photos
> > >> > >>>> with their friends & family who donated, as well as each other
> > >> > >>>> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely come up
> with.
> > >> > >>>> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status tracking, be
> a
> > >> > >>>> success and add one new feature at a time
> > >> > >>>> What do you think?
> > >> > >>>> Thanks!
> > >> > >>>> -Steve-
> > >> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> > >> > >>>> Hey Railers!
> > >> > >>>> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session (monthly
> or
> > >> > >>>> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a
> > >> single
> > >> > >>>> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so
> > >> implementation is
> > >> > >>>> definitely still up for debate. For example:
> > >> > >>>> - We could start a new project or contribute to an existing
> one.
> > >> > >>>> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it could
> fill a
> > >> need
> > >> > >>>> for a local/global non-profit.
> > >> > >>>> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or more!).
> > >> > >>>> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in one
> meeting
> > >> or a
> > >> > >>>> bigger project that spans months.
> > >> > >>>> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming for
> almost
> > >> > >>>> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it. I'm
> > >> personally
> > >> > >>>> excited to be able to do some pair programming and
> behavior-driven
> > >> > >>>> development with people who actually might know what they're
> doing.
> > >> =)
> > >> > >>>> So, let's hear it: brainstorming on all of the points I listed
> (and
> > >> > >>>> more, if you come up with them). Go!
> > >> > >>>> :brad
> > >> > >>>> PS: I'll start: My idea is a google maps mashup-like site that
> > >> gives
> > >> > >>>> bicycle commuters the opportunity to form and join group rides
> > >> to/from work.
> > >> > >>>> * You have received an email from my personal account. Please
> do
> > >> not
> > >> > >>>> divulge this address to any website (eg: evite, shutterfly,
> etc). I
> > >> have
> > >> > >>>> another address for such uses; please ask me for it.
> OK, the fates have decided not to go with any of the dates I
> initially selected. How about we try a weekend? Please respond with
> your availability/preference on Saturday, March 7 and Sunday, March
> 8. We could meet at any point during the day, as far as I'm
> concerned. Not too late, though, because some people may want to
> stay longer and continue working.
> :brad
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi all,
> I also cannot make the 5th.
> I am open to any other dates.
> Hani
> On Feb 25, 1:50 pm, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have class 2nd + 4th, and family engagements on the 5th. I can
> offer
> > campfire/basecamp project space if we want to "meet" remotely
> (ichat or
> > whatever too).
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Stephen Anderson
> <step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
> > > Hmmm...
> > > I can't make those dates.
> > > I'm substitute teaching on the 5th and want to be as caught up
> on the
> > > materials as I can be.
> > > Sorry,
> > > -Steve-
> > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> > > If you're interested in joining us, you have until 6pm Thursday
> to declare
> > > your availability (on March 2, 4, or 5) to me. After that, I'll
> choose a
> > > date that works best. Why don't we plan on meeting at 7:30 at
> Barriques off
> > > the square (first block of West Washington) on the day chosen?
> (suggestions
> > > for a change of venue still accepted!)
> > > Also, if you have ideas, send them to this list so that you can
> get better
> > > traction amongst the group before giving your one-minute pitch.
> > > :brad
> > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> Yep I like both ideas, Steve's and :brad's
> > >> Count me in...
> > >> The question is When and Where and how do we start.
> > >> hani
> > >> On Feb 23, 1:37 pm, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion
> =), I think
> > >> we'd
> > >> > still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on
> the webapp
> > >> to
> > >> > make. I don't want to discourage people just because it seems
> we're on a
> > >> > particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
> > >> > Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour will
> be spent
> > >> > brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one- > minute pitch
> > >> (yes, *
> > >> > one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be
> spent in
> > >> groups
> > >> > of 2 or 3, independently working on:
> > >> > - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
> > >> > - sketching out model interaction
> > >> > - sketching out look and feel
> > >> > - writing up stories for project tracking
> > >> > - anything else
> > >> > We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much prefer
> > >> somewhere in
> > >> > the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
> > >> > Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting,
> I will be
> > >> > around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're
> interested,
> > >> > please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5
> (Monday,
> > >> Wednesday
> > >> > or Thursday).
> > >> > :brad
> > >> > PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only
> one is
> > >> specific
> > >> > to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming
> will fill in
> > >> any
> > >> > gaps in knowledge.
> > >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams
> <4bra...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good
> for my
> > >> schedule
> > >> > > I'm in.
> > >> > > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the
> metro site and
> > >> get
> > >> > > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any
> > >> verification if
> > >> > > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
> > >> > >http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html
> > >> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer
> <altev...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> I would love to chip-in.
> > >> > >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps
> being a bit
> > >> > >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the
> "real" world. On
> > >> the
> > >> > >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a
> big deal in
> > >> Madison,
> > >> > >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in
> the project.
> > >> What
> > >> > >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when
> it's
> > >> raining =D)?
> > >> > >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the
> > >> mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <
> > >> listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >> > >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely
> interested
> > >> in
> > >> > >>> this?
> > >> > >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and
> pair them
> > >> up
> > >> > >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails
> and
> > >> Madison
> > >> > >>> communities. =)
> > >> > >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's
> suggestion of
> > >> Amigos,
> > >> > >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun
> project,
> > >> suggest your
> > >> > >>> own fun project!
> > >> > >>> :brad
> > >> > >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <
> > >> step...@bendycode.com
> > >> > >>> > wrote:
> > >> > >>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
> > >> > >>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<
> > >>http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
> > >> > >>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/ > >. High
> > >> school
> > >> > >>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a
> community project
> > >> a
> > >> > >>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane
> tickets, and
> > >> also
> > >> > >>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done
> by the
> > >> student
> > >> > >>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone
> nightmare
> > >> involving
> > >> > >>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school
> students losing
> > >> their
> > >> > >>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
> > >> > >>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a
> partial list
> > >> of
> > >> > >>>> these features:
> > >> > >>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request
> sent?, money
> > >> > >>>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
> > >> > >>>> -email donation request sending
> > >> > >>>> -form letter printing in PDF
> > >> > >>>> -for donation requests
> > >> > >>>> -for thank yous
> > >> > >>>> -for tax receipts
> > >> > >>>> -taking donations online
> > >> > >>>> -printing tax receipts online
> > >> > >>>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their
> experiences &
> > >> photos
> > >> > >>>> with their friends & family who donated, as well as each
> other
> > >> > >>>> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely
> come up with.
> > >> > >>>> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status
> tracking, be a
> > >> > >>>> success and add one new feature at a time
> > >> > >>>> What do you think?
> > >> > >>>> Thanks!
> > >> > >>>> -Steve-
> > >> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> > >> > >>>> Hey Railers!
> > >> > >>>> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session
> (monthly or
> > >> > >>>> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute
> to a
> > >> single
> > >> > >>>> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so
> > >> implementation is
> > >> > >>>> definitely still up for debate. For example:
> > >> > >>>> - We could start a new project or contribute to an
> existing one.
> > >> > >>>> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it
> could fill a
> > >> need
> > >> > >>>> for a local/global non-profit.
> > >> > >>>> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or
> more!).
> > >> > >>>> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in
> one meeting
> > >> or a
> > >> > >>>> bigger project that spans months.
> > >> > >>>> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming
> for almost
> > >> > >>>> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it.
> I'm
> > >> personally
> > >> > >>>> excited to be able to do some pair programming and
> behavior-driven
> > >> > >>>> development with people who actually might know what
> they're doing.
> > >> =)
> > >> > >>>> So, let's hear it: brainstorming on all of the points I
> listed (and
> > >> > >>>> more, if you come up with them). Go!
> > >> > >>>> :brad
> > >> > >>>> PS: I'll start: My idea is a google maps mashup-like
> site that
> > >> gives
> > >> > >>>> bicycle commuters the opportunity to form and join group
> rides
> > >> to/from work.
> 10 am Saturday, March 7th works, as does 10 am the 8th. Saturday's
> my first choice.
> -Steve-
> On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>> OK, the fates have decided not to go with any of the dates I
>> initially selected. How about we try a weekend? Please respond with
>> your availability/preference on Saturday, March 7 and Sunday, March
>> 8. We could meet at any point during the day, as far as I'm
>> concerned. Not too late, though, because some people may want to
>> stay longer and continue working.
>> :brad
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi all,
>> I also cannot make the 5th.
>> I am open to any other dates.
>> Hani
>> On Feb 25, 1:50 pm, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I have class 2nd + 4th, and family engagements on the 5th. I can
>> offer
>> > campfire/basecamp project space if we want to "meet" remotely
>> (ichat or
>> > whatever too).
>> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Stephen Anderson
>> <step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
>> > > Hmmm...
>> > > I can't make those dates.
>> > > I'm substitute teaching on the 5th and want to be as caught up
>> on the
>> > > materials as I can be.
>> > > Sorry,
>> > > -Steve-
>> > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>> > > If you're interested in joining us, you have until 6pm Thursday
>> to declare
>> > > your availability (on March 2, 4, or 5) to me. After that, I'll
>> choose a
>> > > date that works best. Why don't we plan on meeting at 7:30 at
>> Barriques off
>> > > the square (first block of West Washington) on the day chosen?
>> (suggestions
>> > > for a change of venue still accepted!)
>> > > Also, if you have ideas, send them to this list so that you can
>> get better
>> > > traction amongst the group before giving your one-minute pitch.
>> > > :brad
>> > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> Yep I like both ideas, Steve's and :brad's
>> > >> Count me in...
>> > >> The question is When and Where and how do we start.
>> > >> hani
>> > >> On Feb 23, 1:37 pm, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> > While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion
>> =), I think
>> > >> we'd
>> > >> > still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on
>> the webapp
>> > >> to
>> > >> > make. I don't want to discourage people just because it
>> seems we're on a
>> > >> > particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
>> > >> > Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour
>> will be spent
>> > >> > brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one- >> minute pitch
>> > >> (yes, *
>> > >> > one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be
>> spent in
>> > >> groups
>> > >> > of 2 or 3, independently working on:
>> > >> > - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
>> > >> > - sketching out model interaction
>> > >> > - sketching out look and feel
>> > >> > - writing up stories for project tracking
>> > >> > - anything else
>> > >> > We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much
>> prefer
>> > >> somewhere in
>> > >> > the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
>> > >> > Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting,
>> I will be
>> > >> > around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're
>> interested,
>> > >> > please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5
>> (Monday,
>> > >> Wednesday
>> > >> > or Thursday).
>> > >> > :brad
>> > >> > PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only
>> one is
>> > >> specific
>> > >> > to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming
>> will fill in
>> > >> any
>> > >> > gaps in knowledge.
>> > >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams
>> <4bra...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is
>> good for my
>> > >> schedule
>> > >> > > I'm in.
>> > >> > > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the
>> metro site and
>> > >> get
>> > >> > > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any
>> > >> verification if
>> > >> > > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
>> > >> > >http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html
>> > >> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer
>> <altev...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > >> I would love to chip-in.
>> > >> > >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps
>> being a bit
>> > >> > >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the
>> "real" world. On
>> > >> the
>> > >> > >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a
>> big deal in
>> > >> Madison,
>> > >> > >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in
>> the project.
>> > >> What
>> > >> > >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when
>> it's
>> > >> raining =D)?
>> > >> > >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the
>> > >> mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
>> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <
>> > >> listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >> > >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are
>> remotely interested
>> > >> in
>> > >> > >>> this?
>> > >> > >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and
>> pair them
>> > >> up
>> > >> > >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the
>> Rails and
>> > >> Madison
>> > >> > >>> communities. =)
>> > >> > >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's
>> suggestion of
>> > >> Amigos,
>> > >> > >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun
>> project,
>> > >> suggest your
>> > >> > >>> own fun project!
>> > >> > >>> :brad
>> > >> > >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <
>> > >> step...@bendycode.com
>> > >> > >>> > wrote:
>> > >> > >>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
>> > >> > >>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison
>> chapter<
>> > >>http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
>> > >> > >>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/ >> >. High
>> > >> school
>> > >> > >>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a
>> community project
>> > >> a
>> > >> > >>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane
>> tickets, and
>> > >> also
>> > >> > >>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising
>> done by the
>> > >> student
>> > >> > >>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone
>> nightmare
>> > >> involving
>> > >> > >>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school
>> students losing
>> > >> their
>> > >> > >>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
>> > >> > >>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a
>> partial list
>> > >> of
>> > >> > >>>> these features:
>> > >> > >>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request
>> sent?, money
>> > >> > >>>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
>> > >> > >>>> -email donation request sending
>> > >> > >>>> -form letter printing in PDF
>> > >> > >>>> -for donation requests
>> > >> > >>>> -for thank yous
>> > >> > >>>> -for tax receipts
>> > >> > >>>> -taking donations online
>> > >> > >>>> -printing tax receipts online
>> > >> > >>>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their
>> experiences &
>> > >> photos
>> > >> > >>>> with their friends & family who donated, as well as
>> each other
>> > >> > >>>> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely
>> come up with.
>> > >> > >>>> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status
>> tracking, be a
>> > >> > >>>> success and add one new feature at a time
>> > >> > >>>> What do you think?
>> > >> > >>>> Thanks!
>> > >> > >>>> -Steve-
>> > >> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>> > >> > >>>> Hey Railers!
>> > >> > >>>> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session
>> (monthly or
>> > >> > >>>> semi-monthly to start) where all participants
>> contribute to a
>> > >> single
>> > >> > >>>> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so
>> > >> implementation is
>> > >> > >>>> definitely still up for debate. For example:
>> > >> > >>>> - We could start a new project or contribute to an
>> existing one.
>> > >> > >>>> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it
>> could fill a
>> > >> need
>> > >> > >>>> for a local/global non-profit.
>> > >> > >>>> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or
>> more!).
>> > >> > >>>> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in
>> one meeting
>> > >> or a
>> > >> > >>>> bigger project that spans months.
>> > >> > >>>> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming
>> for almost
>> > >> > >>>> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on
>> it. I'm
>> > >> personally
>> > >> > >>>> excited to be able to do some pair programming and
>> behavior-driven
>> > >> > >>>> development with people who actually might know what
>> they're doing.
> Any time works, actually. 10 am is just a suggestion...
> On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Stephen Anderson wrote:
> 10 am Saturday, March 7th works, as does 10 am the 8th. Saturday's my
> first choice.
> -Steve-
> On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> OK, the fates have decided not to go with any of the dates I initially
> selected. How about we try a weekend? Please respond with your
> availability/preference on Saturday, March 7 and Sunday, March 8. We could
> meet at any point during the day, as far as I'm concerned. Not too late,
> though, because some people may want to stay longer and continue working.
> :brad
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi all,
>> I also cannot make the 5th.
>> I am open to any other dates.
>> Hani
>> On Feb 25, 1:50 pm, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I have class 2nd + 4th, and family engagements on the 5th. I can offer
>> > campfire/basecamp project space if we want to "meet" remotely (ichat or
>> > whatever too).
>> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Stephen Anderson <
>> step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
>> > > Hmmm...
>> > > I can't make those dates.
>> > > I'm substitute teaching on the 5th and want to be as caught up on the
>> > > materials as I can be.
>> > > Sorry,
>> > > -Steve-
>> > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>> > > If you're interested in joining us, you have until 6pm Thursday to
>> declare
>> > > your availability (on March 2, 4, or 5) to me. After that, I'll choose
>> a
>> > > date that works best. Why don't we plan on meeting at 7:30 at
>> Barriques off
>> > > the square (first block of West Washington) on the day chosen?
>> (suggestions
>> > > for a change of venue still accepted!)
>> > > Also, if you have ideas, send them to this list so that you can get
>> better
>> > > traction amongst the group before giving your one-minute pitch.
>> > > :brad
>> > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> Yep I like both ideas, Steve's and :brad's
>> > >> Count me in...
>> > >> The question is When and Where and how do we start.
>> > >> hani
>> > >> On Feb 23, 1:37 pm, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion =), I
>> think
>> > >> we'd
>> > >> > still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on the
>> webapp
>> > >> to
>> > >> > make. I don't want to discourage people just because it seems we're
>> on a
>> > >> > particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
>> > >> > As an aside, I was thinking we could use Pivotal
>> > >> > Tracker<http://pivotaltracker.com>for story/bug tracking... I know
>> > >> > Steve is down with that. One cool feature
>> > >> > that should be out this week is public feeds for projects:
>> > >> > Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour will be
>> spent
>> > >> > brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one-minute
>> pitch
>> > >> (yes, *
>> > >> > one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be spent
>> in
>> > >> groups
>> > >> > of 2 or 3, independently working on:
>> > >> > - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
>> > >> > - sketching out model interaction
>> > >> > - sketching out look and feel
>> > >> > - writing up stories for project tracking
>> > >> > - anything else
>> > >> > We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much prefer
>> > >> somewhere in
>> > >> > the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
>> > >> > Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting, I will
>> be
>> > >> > around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're
>> interested,
>> > >> > please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5 (Monday,
>> > >> Wednesday
>> > >> > or Thursday).
>> > >> > :brad
>> > >> > PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only one is
>> > >> specific
>> > >> > to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming will fill
>> in
>> > >> any
>> > >> > gaps in knowledge.
>> > >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams <
>> 4bra...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good for
>> my
>> > >> schedule
>> > >> > > I'm in.
>> > >> > > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the metro
>> site and
>> > >> get
>> > >> > > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any
>> > >> verification if
>> > >> > > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
>> > >> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer <
>> altev...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > >> I would love to chip-in.
>> > >> > >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps being a
>> bit
>> > >> > >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the "real"
>> world. On
>> > >> the
>> > >> > >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a big deal
>> in
>> > >> Madison,
>> > >> > >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in the
>> project.
>> > >> What
>> > >> > >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when it's
>> > >> raining =D)?
>> > >> > >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the
>> > >> mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
>> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <
>> > >> listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >> > >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely
>> interested
>> > >> in
>> > >> > >>> this?
>> > >> > >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and pair
>> them
>> > >> up
>> > >> > >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails and
>> > >> Madison
>> > >> > >>> communities. =)
>> > >> > >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's suggestion
>> of
>> > >> Amigos,
>> > >> > >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun project,
>> > >> suggest your
>> > >> > >>> own fun project!
>> > >> > >>> :brad
>> > >> > >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <
>> > >> step...@bendycode.com
>> > >> > >>> > wrote:
>> > >> > >>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
>> > >> > >>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<
>> > >>http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
>> > >> > >>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>.
>> High
>> > >> school
>> > >> > >>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a community
>> project
>> > >> a
>> > >> > >>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane tickets,
>> and
>> > >> also
>> > >> > >>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done by
>> the
>> > >> student
>> > >> > >>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone
>> nightmare
>> > >> involving
>> > >> > >>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school students
>> losing
>> > >> their
>> > >> > >>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
>> > >> > >>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a partial
>> list
>> > >> of
>> > >> > >>>> these features:
>> > >> > >>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?,
>> money
>> > >> > >>>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
>> > >> > >>>> -email donation request sending
>> > >> > >>>> -form letter printing in PDF
>> > >> > >>>> -for donation requests
>> > >> > >>>> -for thank yous
>> > >> > >>>> -for tax receipts
>> > >> > >>>> -taking donations online
>> > >> > >>>> -printing tax receipts online
>> > >> > >>>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their
>> experiences &
>> > >> photos
>> > >> > >>>> with their friends & family who donated, as well as each other
>> > >> > >>>> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely come up
>> with.
>> > >> > >>>> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status tracking,
>> be a
>> > >> > >>>> success and add one new feature at a time
>> > >> > >>>> What do you think?
>> > >> > >>>> Thanks!
>> > >> > >>>> -Steve-
>> > >> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>> > >> > >>>> Hey Railers!
>> > >> > >>>> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session
>> (monthly or
>> > >> > >>>> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a
>> > >> single
>> > >> > >>>> project. The idea behind this is still very anomalous, so
>> > >> implementation is
>> > >> > >>>> definitely still up for debate. For example:
>> > >> > >>>> - We could start a new project or contribute to an existing
>> one.
>> > >> > >>>> - The project could be borne from our own ideas, or it could
>> fill a
>> > >> need
>> > >> > >>>> for a local/global non-profit.
>> > >> > >>>> - We could meet monthly, semi-monthly, or weekly (or more!).
>> > >> > >>>> - It could be a small project that's nearly complete in one
>> meeting
>> > >> or a
>> > >> > >>>> bigger project that spans months.
>> > >> > >>>> I think it'd be really neat to adapt agile programming for
>> almost
>> > >> > >>>> everything we do, though I am certainly no expert on it. I'm
>> > >> personally
>> > >> > >>>> excited to be able to do some pair programming and
>> behavior-driven
>> > >> > >>>> development with people who actually might know what they're
>> doing.
>> > >> =)
> Crunch-time at work, that means work on weekends =(. I would be happy to
> participate remotely if possible.
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Stephen Anderson <step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
> > Any time works, actually. 10 am is just a suggestion...
> > On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Stephen Anderson wrote:
> > 10 am Saturday, March 7th works, as does 10 am the 8th. Saturday's my
> > first choice.
> > -Steve-
> > On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> > OK, the fates have decided not to go with any of the dates I initially
> > selected. How about we try a weekend? Please respond with your
> > availability/preference on Saturday, March 7 and Sunday, March 8. We could
> > meet at any point during the day, as far as I'm concerned. Not too late,
> > though, because some people may want to stay longer and continue working.
> > :brad
> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> hi all,
> >> I also cannot make the 5th.
> >> I am open to any other dates.
> >> Hani
> >> On Feb 25, 1:50 pm, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I have class 2nd + 4th, and family engagements on the 5th. I can offer
> >> > campfire/basecamp project space if we want to "meet" remotely (ichat or
> >> > whatever too).
> >> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Stephen Anderson <
> >> step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
> >> > > Hmmm...
> >> > > I can't make those dates.
> >> > > I'm substitute teaching on the 5th and want to be as caught up on the
> >> > > materials as I can be.
> >> > > Sorry,
> >> > > -Steve-
> >> > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> >> > > If you're interested in joining us, you have until 6pm Thursday to
> >> declare
> >> > > your availability (on March 2, 4, or 5) to me. After that, I'll choose
> >> a
> >> > > date that works best. Why don't we plan on meeting at 7:30 at
> >> Barriques off
> >> > > the square (first block of West Washington) on the day chosen?
> >> (suggestions
> >> > > for a change of venue still accepted!)
> >> > > Also, if you have ideas, send them to this list so that you can get
> >> better
> >> > > traction amongst the group before giving your one-minute pitch.
> >> > > :brad
> >> > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> Yep I like both ideas, Steve's and :brad's
> >> > >> Count me in...
> >> > >> The question is When and Where and how do we start.
> >> > >> hani
> >> > >> On Feb 23, 1:37 pm, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> > While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion =), I
> >> think
> >> > >> we'd
> >> > >> > still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on the
> >> webapp
> >> > >> to
> >> > >> > make. I don't want to discourage people just because it seems we're
> >> on a
> >> > >> > particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
> >> > >> > As an aside, I was thinking we could use Pivotal
> >> > >> > Tracker<http://pivotaltracker.com>for story/bug tracking... I know
> >> > >> > Steve is down with that. One cool feature
> >> > >> > that should be out this week is public feeds for projects:
> >> > >> > Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour will be
> >> spent
> >> > >> > brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one-minute
> >> pitch
> >> > >> (yes, *
> >> > >> > one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be spent
> >> in
> >> > >> groups
> >> > >> > of 2 or 3, independently working on:
> >> > >> > - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
> >> > >> > - sketching out model interaction
> >> > >> > - sketching out look and feel
> >> > >> > - writing up stories for project tracking
> >> > >> > - anything else
> >> > >> > We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much prefer
> >> > >> somewhere in
> >> > >> > the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
> >> > >> > Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting, I will
> >> be
> >> > >> > around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're
> >> interested,
> >> > >> > please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5 (Monday,
> >> > >> Wednesday
> >> > >> > or Thursday).
> >> > >> > :brad
> >> > >> > PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only one is
> >> > >> specific
> >> > >> > to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming will fill
> >> in
> >> > >> any
> >> > >> > gaps in knowledge.
> >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams <
> >> 4bra...@gmail.com>
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >> > > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good for
> >> my
> >> > >> schedule
> >> > >> > > I'm in.
> >> > >> > > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the metro
> >> site and
> >> > >> get
> >> > >> > > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any
> >> > >> verification if
> >> > >> > > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
> >> > >> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer <
> >> altev...@gmail.com>
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >> > >> I would love to chip-in.
> >> > >> > >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps being a
> >> bit
> >> > >> > >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the "real"
> >> world. On
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> > >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a big deal
> >> in
> >> > >> Madison,
> >> > >> > >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in the
> >> project.
> >> > >> What
> >> > >> > >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when it's
> >> > >> raining =D)?
> >> > >> > >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the
> >> > >> mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
> >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <
> >> > >> listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> > >> > >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely
> >> interested
> >> > >> in
> >> > >> > >>> this?
> >> > >> > >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and pair
> >> them
> >> > >> up
> >> > >> > >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails and
> >> > >> Madison
> >> > >> > >>> communities. =)
> >> > >> > >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's suggestion
> >> of
> >> > >> Amigos,
> >> > >> > >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun project,
> >> > >> suggest your
> >> > >> > >>> own fun project!
> >> > >> > >>> :brad
> >> > >> > >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <
> >> > >> step...@bendycode.com
> >> > >> > >>> > wrote:
> >> > >> > >>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
> >> > >> > >>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<
> >> > >>http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
> >> > >> > >>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>.
> >> High
> >> > >> school
> >> > >> > >>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a community
> >> project
> >> > >> a
> >> > >> > >>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane tickets,
> >> and
> >> > >> also
> >> > >> > >>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done by
> >> the
> >> > >> student
> >> > >> > >>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone
> >> nightmare
> >> > >> involving
> >> > >> > >>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school students
> >> losing
> >> > >> their
> >> > >> > >>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
> >> > >> > >>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a partial
> >> list
> >> > >> of
> >> > >> > >>>> these features:
> >> > >> > >>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?,
> >> money
> >> > >> > >>>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
> >> > >> > >>>> -email donation request sending
> >> > >> > >>>> -form letter printing in PDF
> >> > >> > >>>> -for donation requests
> >> > >> > >>>> -for thank yous
> >> > >> > >>>> -for tax receipts
> >> > >> > >>>> -taking donations online
> >> > >> > >>>> -printing tax receipts online
> >> > >> > >>>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their
> >> experiences &
> >> > >> photos
> >> > >> > >>>> with their friends & family who donated, as well as each other
> >> > >> > >>>> -lots of other improvement ideas you all will surely come up
> >> with.
> >> > >> > >>>> Again, we can start simple, with just donor status tracking,
> >> be a
> >> > >> > >>>> success and add one new feature at a time
> >> > >> > >>>> What do you think?
> >> > >> > >>>> Thanks!
> >> > >> > >>>> -Steve-
> >> > >> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> >> > >> > >>>> Hey Railers!
> >> > >> > >>>> I'm interested in starting up a regular coding session
> >> (monthly or
> >> > >> > >>>> semi-monthly to start) where all participants contribute to a
> >> > >> single
> >> > >> > >>>> project. The idea behind this
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys...
> I am good doing it on the weekends, but not before 12:30 on
> Saturdays... Previous ongoing engagement...
> One thing that we may want to consider( depending on broadband access
> by all ) is to do a virtual meeting using Skype or some other
> technology.
> I listen to Leo Laporte of 'twit.tv' and that is how he does all his
> interviews and I think most of them use their web cam to have video
> conference.
> We may want to flush this out tonight and see if it will work, If
> anybody is interested, I can bring my big portable with my hook on web
> cam.
> Just an idea....
> Hani
> On Feb 26, 10:53 am, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Crunch-time at work, that means work on weekends =(. I would be happy to
> > participate remotely if possible.
> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Stephen Anderson <
> step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
> > > Any time works, actually. 10 am is just a suggestion...
> > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Stephen Anderson wrote:
> > > 10 am Saturday, March 7th works, as does 10 am the 8th. Saturday's my
> > > first choice.
> > > -Steve-
> > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> > > OK, the fates have decided not to go with any of the dates I initially
> > > selected. How about we try a weekend? Please respond with your
> > > availability/preference on Saturday, March 7 and Sunday, March 8. We
> could
> > > meet at any point during the day, as far as I'm concerned. Not too
> late,
> > > though, because some people may want to stay longer and continue
> working.
> > > :brad
> > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> hi all,
> > >> I also cannot make the 5th.
> > >> I am open to any other dates.
> > >> Hani
> > >> On Feb 25, 1:50 pm, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > I have class 2nd + 4th, and family engagements on the 5th. I can
> offer
> > >> > campfire/basecamp project space if we want to "meet" remotely (ichat
> or
> > >> > whatever too).
> > >> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Stephen Anderson <
> > >> step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
> > >> > > Hmmm...
> > >> > > I can't make those dates.
> > >> > > I'm substitute teaching on the 5th and want to be as caught up on
> the
> > >> > > materials as I can be.
> > >> > > Sorry,
> > >> > > -Steve-
> > >> > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> > >> > > If you're interested in joining us, you have until 6pm Thursday to
> > >> declare
> > >> > > your availability (on March 2, 4, or 5) to me. After that, I'll
> choose
> > >> a
> > >> > > date that works best. Why don't we plan on meeting at 7:30 at
> > >> Barriques off
> > >> > > the square (first block of West Washington) on the day chosen?
> > >> (suggestions
> > >> > > for a change of venue still accepted!)
> > >> > > Also, if you have ideas, send them to this list so that you can
> get
> > >> better
> > >> > > traction amongst the group before giving your one-minute pitch.
> > >> > > :brad
> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > >> Yep I like both ideas, Steve's and :brad's
> > >> > >> Count me in...
> > >> > >> The question is When and Where and how do we start.
> > >> > >> hani
> > >> > >> On Feb 23, 1:37 pm, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > >> > While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion =),
> I
> > >> think
> > >> > >> we'd
> > >> > >> > still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on
> the
> > >> webapp
> > >> > >> to
> > >> > >> > make. I don't want to discourage people just because it seems
> we're
> > >> on a
> > >> > >> > particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
> > >> > >> > As an aside, I was thinking we could use Pivotal
> > >> > >> > Tracker<http://pivotaltracker.com>for story/bug tracking... I
> know
> > >> > >> > Steve is down with that. One cool feature
> > >> > >> > that should be out this week is public feeds for projects:
> > >> > >> > Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour will
> be
> > >> spent
> > >> > >> > brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one-minute
> > >> pitch
> > >> > >> (yes, *
> > >> > >> > one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be
> spent
> > >> in
> > >> > >> groups
> > >> > >> > of 2 or 3, independently working on:
> > >> > >> > - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
> > >> > >> > - sketching out model interaction
> > >> > >> > - sketching out look and feel
> > >> > >> > - writing up stories for project tracking
> > >> > >> > - anything else
> > >> > >> > We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much prefer
> > >> > >> somewhere in
> > >> > >> > the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
> > >> > >> > Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting, I
> will
> > >> be
> > >> > >> > around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're
> > >> interested,
> > >> > >> > please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5
> (Monday,
> > >> > >> Wednesday
> > >> > >> > or Thursday).
> > >> > >> > :brad
> > >> > >> > PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only
> one is
> > >> > >> specific
> > >> > >> > to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming will
> fill
> > >> in
> > >> > >> any
> > >> > >> > gaps in knowledge.
> > >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams <
> > >> 4bra...@gmail.com>
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> > > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good
> for
> > >> my
> > >> > >> schedule
> > >> > >> > > I'm in.
> > >> > >> > > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the metro
> > >> site and
> > >> > >> get
> > >> > >> > > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any
> > >> > >> verification if
> > >> > >> > > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
> > >> > >> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer <
> > >> altev...@gmail.com>
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> > >> I would love to chip-in.
> > >> > >> > >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps being
> a
> > >> bit
> > >> > >> > >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the "real"
> > >> world. On
> > >> > >> the
> > >> > >> > >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a big
> deal
> > >> in
> > >> > >> Madison,
> > >> > >> > >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in the
> > >> project.
> > >> > >> What
> > >> > >> > >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when
> it's
> > >> > >> raining =D)?
> > >> > >> > >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the
> > >> > >> mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <
> > >> > >> listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >> > >> > >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely
> > >> interested
> > >> > >> in
> > >> > >> > >>> this?
> > >> > >> > >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and
> pair
> > >> them
> > >> > >> up
> > >> > >> > >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails
> and
> > >> > >> Madison
> > >> > >> > >>> communities. =)
> > >> > >> > >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's
> suggestion
> > >> of
> > >> > >> Amigos,
> > >> > >> > >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun
> project,
> > >> > >> suggest your
> > >> > >> > >>> own fun project!
> > >> > >> > >>> :brad
> > >> > >> > >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <
> > >> > >> step...@bendycode.com
> > >> > >> > >>> > wrote:
> > >> > >> > >>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
> > >> > >> > >>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison chapter<
> > >> > >>http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
> > >> > >> > >>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>.
> > >> High
> > >> > >> school
> > >> > >> > >>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a
> community
> > >> project
> > >> > >> a
> > >> > >> > >>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane
> tickets,
> > >> and
> > >> > >> also
> > >> > >> > >>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done
> by
> > >> the
> > >> > >> student
> > >> > >> > >>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone
> > >> nightmare
> > >> > >> involving
> > >> > >> > >>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school
> students
> > >> losing
> > >> > >> their
> > >> > >> > >>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
> > >> > >> > >>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a
> partial
> > >> list
> > >> > >> of
> > >> > >> > >>>> these features:
> > >> > >> > >>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request sent?,
> > >> money
> > >> > >> > >>>> received?, thank you sent?, tax receipt sent?)
> > >> > >> > >>>> -email donation request sending
> > >> > >> > >>>> -form letter printing in PDF
> > >> > >> > >>>> -for donation requests
> > >> > >> > >>>> -for thank yous
> > >> > >> > >>>> -for tax receipts
> > >> > >> > >>>> -taking donations online
> > >> > >> > >>>> -printing tax receipts online
> > >> > >> > >>>> -a fun social network for volunteers to share their
> > >> experiences &
> > >> > >> photos
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am all for this. These days, my remote presence is pretty much all I can
> offer.
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Guys...
>> I am good doing it on the weekends, but not before 12:30 on
>> Saturdays... Previous ongoing engagement...
>> One thing that we may want to consider( depending on broadband access
>> by all ) is to do a virtual meeting using Skype or some other
>> technology.
>> I listen to Leo Laporte of 'twit.tv' and that is how he does all his
>> interviews and I think most of them use their web cam to have video
>> conference.
>> We may want to flush this out tonight and see if it will work, If
>> anybody is interested, I can bring my big portable with my hook on web
>> cam.
>> Just an idea....
>> Hani
>> On Feb 26, 10:53 am, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Crunch-time at work, that means work on weekends =(. I would be happy to
>> > participate remotely if possible.
>> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Stephen Anderson <
>> step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
>> > > Any time works, actually. 10 am is just a suggestion...
>> > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Stephen Anderson wrote:
>> > > 10 am Saturday, March 7th works, as does 10 am the 8th. Saturday's my
>> > > first choice.
>> > > -Steve-
>> > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>> > > OK, the fates have decided not to go with any of the dates I initially
>> > > selected. How about we try a weekend? Please respond with your
>> > > availability/preference on Saturday, March 7 and Sunday, March 8. We
>> could
>> > > meet at any point during the day, as far as I'm concerned. Not too
>> late,
>> > > though, because some people may want to stay longer and continue
>> working.
>> > > :brad
>> > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> hi all,
>> > >> I also cannot make the 5th.
>> > >> I am open to any other dates.
>> > >> Hani
>> > >> On Feb 25, 1:50 pm, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > I have class 2nd + 4th, and family engagements on the 5th. I can
>> offer
>> > >> > campfire/basecamp project space if we want to "meet" remotely
>> (ichat or
>> > >> > whatever too).
>> > >> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Stephen Anderson <
>> > >> step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
>> > >> > > Hmmm...
>> > >> > > I can't make those dates.
>> > >> > > I'm substitute teaching on the 5th and want to be as caught up on
>> the
>> > >> > > materials as I can be.
>> > >> > > Sorry,
>> > >> > > -Steve-
>> > >> > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>> > >> > > If you're interested in joining us, you have until 6pm Thursday
>> to
>> > >> declare
>> > >> > > your availability (on March 2, 4, or 5) to me. After that, I'll
>> choose
>> > >> a
>> > >> > > date that works best. Why don't we plan on meeting at 7:30 at
>> > >> Barriques off
>> > >> > > the square (first block of West Washington) on the day chosen?
>> > >> (suggestions
>> > >> > > for a change of venue still accepted!)
>> > >> > > Also, if you have ideas, send them to this list so that you can
>> get
>> > >> better
>> > >> > > traction amongst the group before giving your one-minute pitch.
>> > >> > > :brad
>> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> > >> Yep I like both ideas, Steve's and :brad's
>> > >> > >> Count me in...
>> > >> > >> The question is When and Where and how do we start.
>> > >> > >> hani
>> > >> > >> On Feb 23, 1:37 pm, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> > >> > While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion
>> =), I
>> > >> think
>> > >> > >> we'd
>> > >> > >> > still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on
>> the
>> > >> webapp
>> > >> > >> to
>> > >> > >> > make. I don't want to discourage people just because it seems
>> we're
>> > >> on a
>> > >> > >> > particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
>> > >> > >> > As an aside, I was thinking we could use Pivotal
>> > >> > >> > Tracker<http://pivotaltracker.com>for story/bug tracking... I
>> know
>> > >> > >> > Steve is down with that. One cool feature
>> > >> > >> > that should be out this week is public feeds for projects:
>> > >> > >> > Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour will
>> be
>> > >> spent
>> > >> > >> > brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one-minute
>> > >> pitch
>> > >> > >> (yes, *
>> > >> > >> > one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be
>> spent
>> > >> in
>> > >> > >> groups
>> > >> > >> > of 2 or 3, independently working on:
>> > >> > >> > - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
>> > >> > >> > - sketching out model interaction
>> > >> > >> > - sketching out look and feel
>> > >> > >> > - writing up stories for project tracking
>> > >> > >> > - anything else
>> > >> > >> > We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much
>> prefer
>> > >> > >> somewhere in
>> > >> > >> > the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
>> > >> > >> > Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting, I
>> will
>> > >> be
>> > >> > >> > around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're
>> > >> interested,
>> > >> > >> > please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5
>> (Monday,
>> > >> > >> Wednesday
>> > >> > >> > or Thursday).
>> > >> > >> > :brad
>> > >> > >> > PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only
>> one is
>> > >> > >> specific
>> > >> > >> > to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming will
>> fill
>> > >> in
>> > >> > >> any
>> > >> > >> > gaps in knowledge.
>> > >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams <
>> > >> 4bra...@gmail.com>
>> > >> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > >> > > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good
>> for
>> > >> my
>> > >> > >> schedule
>> > >> > >> > > I'm in.
>> > >> > >> > > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the
>> metro
>> > >> site and
>> > >> > >> get
>> > >> > >> > > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do any
>> > >> > >> verification if
>> > >> > >> > > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
>> > >> > >> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer <
>> > >> altev...@gmail.com>
>> > >> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > >> > >> I would love to chip-in.
>> > >> > >> > >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps being
>> a
>> > >> bit
>> > >> > >> > >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the "real"
>> > >> world. On
>> > >> > >> the
>> > >> > >> > >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a big
>> deal
>> > >> in
>> > >> > >> Madison,
>> > >> > >> > >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in
>> the
>> > >> project.
>> > >> > >> What
>> > >> > >> > >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when
>> it's
>> > >> > >> raining =D)?
>> > >> > >> > >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the
>> > >> > >> mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
>> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <
>> > >> > >> listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >> > >> > >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely
>> > >> interested
>> > >> > >> in
>> > >> > >> > >>> this?
>> > >> > >> > >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and
>> pair
>> > >> them
>> > >> > >> up
>> > >> > >> > >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails
>> and
>> > >> > >> Madison
>> > >> > >> > >>> communities. =)
>> > >> > >> > >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's
>> suggestion
>> > >> of
>> > >> > >> Amigos,
>> > >> > >> > >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun
>> project,
>> > >> > >> suggest your
>> > >> > >> > >>> own fun project!
>> > >> > >> > >>> :brad
>> > >> > >> > >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <
>> > >> > >> step...@bendycode.com
>> > >> > >> > >>> > wrote:
>> > >> > >> > >>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
>> > >> > >> > >>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison
>> chapter<
>> > >> > >>http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
>> > >> > >> > >>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/>.
>> > >> High
>> > >> > >> school
>> > >> > >> > >>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a
>> community
>> > >> project
>> > >> > >> a
>> > >> > >> > >>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane
>> tickets,
>> > >> and
>> > >> > >> also
>> > >> > >> > >>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising done
>> by
>> > >> the
>> > >> > >> student
>> > >> > >> > >>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error prone
>> > >> nightmare
>> > >> > >> involving
>> > >> > >> > >>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school
>> students
>> > >> losing
>> > >> > >> their
>> > >> > >> > >>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
>> > >> > >> > >>>> The Rails application would be a success with even a
>> partial
>> > >> list
>> > >> > >> of
> Let's do 1pm on this Saturday at Barriques on the square. We can try to
> setup remote presences... perhaps an IRC room or skype chat.
> Remember to show up with suggestions!
> :brad
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> I am all for this. These days, my remote presence is pretty much all I can
>> offer.
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Guys...
>>> I am good doing it on the weekends, but not before 12:30 on
>>> Saturdays... Previous ongoing engagement...
>>> One thing that we may want to consider( depending on broadband access
>>> by all ) is to do a virtual meeting using Skype or some other
>>> technology.
>>> I listen to Leo Laporte of 'twit.tv' and that is how he does all his
>>> interviews and I think most of them use their web cam to have video
>>> conference.
>>> We may want to flush this out tonight and see if it will work, If
>>> anybody is interested, I can bring my big portable with my hook on web
>>> cam.
>>> Just an idea....
>>> Hani
>>> On Feb 26, 10:53 am, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Crunch-time at work, that means work on weekends =(. I would be happy
>>> to
>>> > participate remotely if possible.
>>> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Stephen Anderson <
>>> step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
>>> > > Any time works, actually. 10 am is just a suggestion...
>>> > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Stephen Anderson wrote:
>>> > > 10 am Saturday, March 7th works, as does 10 am the 8th. Saturday's
>>> my
>>> > > first choice.
>>> > > -Steve-
>>> > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>>> > > OK, the fates have decided not to go with any of the dates I
>>> initially
>>> > > selected. How about we try a weekend? Please respond with your
>>> > > availability/preference on Saturday, March 7 and Sunday, March 8. We
>>> could
>>> > > meet at any point during the day, as far as I'm concerned. Not too
>>> late,
>>> > > though, because some people may want to stay longer and continue
>>> working.
>>> > > :brad
>>> > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >> hi all,
>>> > >> I also cannot make the 5th.
>>> > >> I am open to any other dates.
>>> > >> Hani
>>> > >> On Feb 25, 1:50 pm, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >> > I have class 2nd + 4th, and family engagements on the 5th. I can
>>> offer
>>> > >> > campfire/basecamp project space if we want to "meet" remotely
>>> (ichat or
>>> > >> > whatever too).
>>> > >> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Stephen Anderson <
>>> > >> step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
>>> > >> > > Hmmm...
>>> > >> > > I can't make those dates.
>>> > >> > > I'm substitute teaching on the 5th and want to be as caught up
>>> on the
>>> > >> > > materials as I can be.
>>> > >> > > Sorry,
>>> > >> > > -Steve-
>>> > >> > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>>> > >> > > If you're interested in joining us, you have until 6pm Thursday
>>> to
>>> > >> declare
>>> > >> > > your availability (on March 2, 4, or 5) to me. After that, I'll
>>> choose
>>> > >> a
>>> > >> > > date that works best. Why don't we plan on meeting at 7:30 at
>>> > >> Barriques off
>>> > >> > > the square (first block of West Washington) on the day chosen?
>>> > >> (suggestions
>>> > >> > > for a change of venue still accepted!)
>>> > >> > > Also, if you have ideas, send them to this list so that you can
>>> get
>>> > >> better
>>> > >> > > traction amongst the group before giving your one-minute pitch.
>>> > >> > > :brad
>>> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >> > >> Yep I like both ideas, Steve's and :brad's
>>> > >> > >> Count me in...
>>> > >> > >> The question is When and Where and how do we start.
>>> > >> > >> hani
>>> > >> > >> On Feb 23, 1:37 pm, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >> > >> > While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion
>>> =), I
>>> > >> think
>>> > >> > >> we'd
>>> > >> > >> > still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on
>>> the
>>> > >> webapp
>>> > >> > >> to
>>> > >> > >> > make. I don't want to discourage people just because it seems
>>> we're
>>> > >> on a
>>> > >> > >> > particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
>>> > >> > >> > As an aside, I was thinking we could use Pivotal
>>> > >> > >> > Tracker<http://pivotaltracker.com>for story/bug tracking...
>>> I know
>>> > >> > >> > Steve is down with that. One cool feature
>>> > >> > >> > that should be out this week is public feeds for projects:
>>> > >> > >> > Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour will
>>> be
>>> > >> spent
>>> > >> > >> > brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a
>>> one-minute
>>> > >> pitch
>>> > >> > >> (yes, *
>>> > >> > >> > one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be
>>> spent
>>> > >> in
>>> > >> > >> groups
>>> > >> > >> > of 2 or 3, independently working on:
>>> > >> > >> > - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
>>> > >> > >> > - sketching out model interaction
>>> > >> > >> > - sketching out look and feel
>>> > >> > >> > - writing up stories for project tracking
>>> > >> > >> > - anything else
>>> > >> > >> > We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much
>>> prefer
>>> > >> > >> somewhere in
>>> > >> > >> > the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
>>> > >> > >> > Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting,
>>> I will
>>> > >> be
>>> > >> > >> > around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're
>>> > >> interested,
>>> > >> > >> > please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5
>>> (Monday,
>>> > >> > >> Wednesday
>>> > >> > >> > or Thursday).
>>> > >> > >> > :brad
>>> > >> > >> > PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only
>>> one is
>>> > >> > >> specific
>>> > >> > >> > to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming
>>> will fill
>>> > >> in
>>> > >> > >> any
>>> > >> > >> > gaps in knowledge.
>>> > >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams <
>>> > >> 4bra...@gmail.com>
>>> > >> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > >> > > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is good
>>> for
>>> > >> my
>>> > >> > >> schedule
>>> > >> > >> > > I'm in.
>>> > >> > >> > > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the
>>> metro
>>> > >> site and
>>> > >> > >> get
>>> > >> > >> > > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do
>>> any
>>> > >> > >> verification if
>>> > >> > >> > > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
>>> > >> > >> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer <
>>> > >> altev...@gmail.com>
>>> > >> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > >> > >> I would love to chip-in.
>>> > >> > >> > >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps
>>> being a
>>> > >> bit
>>> > >> > >> > >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the
>>> "real"
>>> > >> world. On
>>> > >> > >> the
>>> > >> > >> > >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a
>>> big deal
>>> > >> in
>>> > >> > >> Madison,
>>> > >> > >> > >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in
>>> the
>>> > >> project.
>>> > >> > >> What
>>> > >> > >> > >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when
>>> it's
>>> > >> > >> raining =D)?
>>> > >> > >> > >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the
>>> > >> > >> mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
>>> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <
>>> > >> > >> listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> > >> > >> > >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are remotely
>>> > >> interested
>>> > >> > >> in
>>> > >> > >> > >>> this?
>>> > >> > >> > >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and
>>> pair
>>> > >> them
>>> > >> > >> up
>>> > >> > >> > >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the Rails
>>> and
>>> > >> > >> Madison
>>> > >> > >> > >>> communities. =)
>>> > >> > >> > >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's
>>> suggestion
>>> > >> of
>>> > >> > >> Amigos,
>>> > >> > >> > >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun
>>> project,
>>> > >> > >> suggest your
>>> > >> > >> > >>> own fun project!
>>> > >> > >> > >>> :brad
>>> > >> > >> > >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <
>>> > >> > >> step...@bendycode.com
>>> > >> > >> > >>> > wrote:
>>> > >> > >> > >>>> Cool Idea! I'm game!
>>> > >> > >> > >>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison
>>> chapter<
>>> > >> > >>http://www.amigosmadison.org/>
>>> > >> > >> > >>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/ >>> >.
>>> > >> High
>>> > >> > >> school
>>> > >> > >> > >>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a
>>> community
>>> > >> project
>>> > >> > >> a
>>> > >> > >> > >>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. Plane
>>> tickets,
>>> > >> and
>>> > >> > >> also
>>> > >> > >> > >>>> materials
> Speaking of IRC is there a channel for Madison area Railers? Or > would anyone be interested in starting one?
> -Chris
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Bradley Grzesiak > <listro...@gmail.com> wrote: > Holy crap, it's Thursday already.
> Let's do 1pm on this Saturday at Barriques on the square. We can try > to setup remote presences... perhaps an IRC room or skype chat.
> Remember to show up with suggestions!
> :brad
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> > wrote: > I am all for this. These days, my remote presence is pretty much all > I can offer.
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys... > I am good doing it on the weekends, but not before 12:30 on > Saturdays... Previous ongoing engagement...
> One thing that we may want to consider( depending on broadband access > by all ) is to do a virtual meeting using Skype or some other > technology.
> I listen to Leo Laporte of 'twit.tv' and that is how he does all his > interviews and I think most of them use their web cam to have video > conference.
> We may want to flush this out tonight and see if it will work, If > anybody is interested, I can bring my big portable with my hook on web > cam.
> Just an idea....
> Hani
> On Feb 26, 10:53 am, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Crunch-time at work, that means work on weekends =(. I would be > happy to > > participate remotely if possible.
> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Stephen Anderson > <step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
> > > Any time works, actually. 10 am is just a suggestion...
> > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Stephen Anderson wrote:
> > > 10 am Saturday, March 7th works, as does 10 am the 8th. > Saturday's my > > > first choice. > > > -Steve-
> > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> > > OK, the fates have decided not to go with any of the dates I > initially > > > selected. How about we try a weekend? Please respond with your > > > availability/preference on Saturday, March 7 and Sunday, March > 8. We could > > > meet at any point during the day, as far as I'm concerned. Not > too late, > > > though, because some people may want to stay longer and continue > working.
> > > :brad
> > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> > >> hi all, > > >> I also cannot make the 5th. > > >> I am open to any other dates. > > >> Hani
> > >> On Feb 25, 1:50 pm, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > I have class 2nd + 4th, and family engagements on the 5th. I > can offer > > >> > campfire/basecamp project space if we want to "meet" remotely > (ichat or > > >> > whatever too).
> > >> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Stephen Anderson < > > >> step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
> > >> > > Hmmm... > > >> > > I can't make those dates.
> > >> > > I'm substitute teaching on the 5th and want to be as caught > up on the > > >> > > materials as I can be.
> > >> > > Sorry, > > >> > > -Steve-
> > >> > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
> > >> > > If you're interested in joining us, you have until 6pm > Thursday to > > >> declare > > >> > > your availability (on March 2, 4, or 5) to me. After that, > I'll choose > > >> a > > >> > > date that works best. Why don't we plan on meeting at 7:30 at > > >> Barriques off > > >> > > the square (first block of West Washington) on the day > chosen? > > >> (suggestions > > >> > > for a change of venue still accepted!)
> > >> > > Also, if you have ideas, send them to this list so that you > can get > > >> better > > >> > > traction amongst the group before giving your one-minute > pitch.
> > >> > > :brad
> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, hani > <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> Yep I like both ideas, Steve's and :brad's > > >> > >> Count me in... > > >> > >> The question is When and Where and how do we start.
> > >> > >> hani
> > >> > >> On Feb 23, 1:37 pm, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> > >> > While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my > suggestion =), I > > >> think > > >> > >> we'd > > >> > >> > still need to have an official brainstorming and > decision on the > > >> webapp > > >> > >> to > > >> > >> > make. I don't want to discourage people just because it > seems we're > > >> on a > > >> > >> > particular track of thinking... at least not this early > on.
> > >> > >> > As an aside, I was thinking we could use Pivotal > > >> > >> > Tracker<http://pivotaltracker.com>for story/bug > tracking... I know > > >> > >> > Steve is down with that. One cool feature > > >> > >> > that should be out this week is public feeds for projects:
> > >> > >> > Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour > will be > > >> spent > > >> > >> > brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a one- > minute > > >> pitch > > >> > >> (yes, * > > >> > >> > one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour > will be spent > > >> in > > >> > >> groups > > >> > >> > of 2 or 3, independently working on: > > >> > >> > - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment > > >> > >> > - sketching out model interaction > > >> > >> > - sketching out look and feel > > >> > >> > - writing up stories for project tracking > > >> > >> > - anything else
> > >> > >> > We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much > prefer > > >> > >> somewhere in > > >> > >> > the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
> > >> > >> > Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers > meeting, I will > > >> be > > >> > >> > around next week due to a change in travel plans. If > you're > > >> interested, > > >> > >> > please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or > 5 (Monday, > > >> > >> Wednesday > > >> > >> > or Thursday).
> > >> > >> > :brad
> > >> > >> > PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, > only one is > > >> > >> specific > > >> > >> > to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair > programming will fill > > >> in > > >> > >> any > > >> > >> > gaps in knowledge.
> > >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams < > > >> 4bra...@gmail.com> > > >> > >> wrote: > > >> > >> > > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is > good for > > >> my > > >> > >> schedule > > >> > >> > > I'm in.
> > >> > >> > > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape > the metro > > >> site and > > >> > >> get > > >> > >> > > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't > do any > > >> > >> verification if > > >> > >> > > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
> > >> > >> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer < > > >> altev...@gmail.com> > > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> > >> I would love to chip-in.
> > >> > >> > >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps > being a > > >> bit > > >> > >> > >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the > "real" > > >> world. On > > >> > >> the > > >> > >> > >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is > a big deal > > >> in > > >> > >> Madison, > > >> > >> > >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest > in the > > >> project. > > >> > >> What > > >> > >> > >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for > when it's > > >> > >> raining =D)? > > >> > >> > >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the > > >> > >> mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak < > > >> > >> listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >> > >> > >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are > remotely > > >> interested > > >> > >> in > > >> > >> > >>> this?
> > >> > >> > >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs > and pair > > >> them > > >> > >> up > > >> > >> > >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the > Rails and > > >> > >> Madison > > >> > >> > >>> communities. =)
> > >> > >> > >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's > suggestion > > >> of > > >> > >> Amigos, > > >> > >> > >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a > fun project, > > >> > >> suggest your > > >> > >> > >>> own fun project!
> > >> > >> > >>> :brad
> > >> > >> > >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson < > > >> > >> step...@bendycode.com > > >> > >> > >>> > wrote:
> > >> > >> > >>>> Cool Idea! I'm game! > > >> > >> > >>>> Here's my idea: A Rails program for the Madison > chapter< > > >> > >>http://www.amigosmadison.org/> > > >> > >> > >>>> of Amigos of the Americas <http://www.amigoslink.org/ > >. > > >> High > > >> > >> school > > >> > >> > >>>> volunteers spend 3 months organizing and making a > community > > >> project > > >> > >> a > > >> > >> > >>>> success in a poor community in Latin America. > Plane tickets, > > >> and > > >> > >> also > > >> > >> > >>>> materials for projects are paid for by fund raising > done by > > >> the > > >> > >> student > > >> > >> > >>>> volunteers. Currently, this is an unholy, error > prone > > >> nightmare > > >> > >> involving > > >> > >> > >>>> spreadsheets on a per volunteer basis, high school > students > > >> losing > > >> > >> their > > >> > >> > >>>> lists of who donated what, etc.
> > >> > >> > >>>> The Rails application would be a success with even > a partial > > >> list > > >> > >> of > > >> > >> > >>>> these features: > > >> > >> > >>>> -database tracking of donors per volunteer (request > sent?, > > >> money
> On Mar 5, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Chris Johnson wrote:
> Speaking of IRC is there a channel for Madison area Railers? Or would
> anyone be interested in starting one?
> -Chris
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Holy crap, it's Thursday already.
>> Let's do 1pm on this Saturday at Barriques on the square. We can try to
>> setup remote presences... perhaps an IRC room or skype chat.
>> Remember to show up with suggestions!
>> :brad
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> I am all for this. These days, my remote presence is pretty much all I
>>> can offer.
>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Guys...
>>>> I am good doing it on the weekends, but not before 12:30 on
>>>> Saturdays... Previous ongoing engagement...
>>>> One thing that we may want to consider( depending on broadband access
>>>> by all ) is to do a virtual meeting using Skype or some other
>>>> technology.
>>>> I listen to Leo Laporte of 'twit.tv' and that is how he does all his
>>>> interviews and I think most of them use their web cam to have video
>>>> conference.
>>>> We may want to flush this out tonight and see if it will work, If
>>>> anybody is interested, I can bring my big portable with my hook on web
>>>> cam.
>>>> Just an idea....
>>>> Hani
>>>> On Feb 26, 10:53 am, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Crunch-time at work, that means work on weekends =(. I would be happy
>>>> to
>>>> > participate remotely if possible.
>>>> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Stephen Anderson <
>>>> step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
>>>> > > Any time works, actually. 10 am is just a suggestion...
>>>> > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Stephen Anderson wrote:
>>>> > > 10 am Saturday, March 7th works, as does 10 am the 8th. Saturday's
>>>> my
>>>> > > first choice.
>>>> > > -Steve-
>>>> > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>>>> > > OK, the fates have decided not to go with any of the dates I
>>>> initially
>>>> > > selected. How about we try a weekend? Please respond with your
>>>> > > availability/preference on Saturday, March 7 and Sunday, March 8. We
>>>> could
>>>> > > meet at any point during the day, as far as I'm concerned. Not too
>>>> late,
>>>> > > though, because some people may want to stay longer and continue
>>>> working.
>>>> > > :brad
>>>> > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >> hi all,
>>>> > >> I also cannot make the 5th.
>>>> > >> I am open to any other dates.
>>>> > >> Hani
>>>> > >> On Feb 25, 1:50 pm, Colin Alteveer <altev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >> > I have class 2nd + 4th, and family engagements on the 5th. I can
>>>> offer
>>>> > >> > campfire/basecamp project space if we want to "meet" remotely
>>>> (ichat or
>>>> > >> > whatever too).
>>>> > >> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Stephen Anderson <
>>>> > >> step...@bendycode.com>wrote:
>>>> > >> > > Hmmm...
>>>> > >> > > I can't make those dates.
>>>> > >> > > I'm substitute teaching on the 5th and want to be as caught up
>>>> on the
>>>> > >> > > materials as I can be.
>>>> > >> > > Sorry,
>>>> > >> > > -Steve-
>>>> > >> > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Bradley Grzesiak wrote:
>>>> > >> > > If you're interested in joining us, you have until 6pm Thursday
>>>> to
>>>> > >> declare
>>>> > >> > > your availability (on March 2, 4, or 5) to me. After that, I'll
>>>> choose
>>>> > >> a
>>>> > >> > > date that works best. Why don't we plan on meeting at 7:30 at
>>>> > >> Barriques off
>>>> > >> > > the square (first block of West Washington) on the day chosen?
>>>> > >> (suggestions
>>>> > >> > > for a change of venue still accepted!)
>>>> > >> > > Also, if you have ideas, send them to this list so that you can
>>>> get
>>>> > >> better
>>>> > >> > > traction amongst the group before giving your one-minute pitch.
>>>> > >> > > :brad
>>>> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, hani <hani.ela...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >> > >> Yep I like both ideas, Steve's and :brad's
>>>> > >> > >> Count me in...
>>>> > >> > >> The question is When and Where and how do we start.
>>>> > >> > >> hani
>>>> > >> > >> On Feb 23, 1:37 pm, Bradley Grzesiak <listro...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >> > >> > While I don't mind the apparent consensus for my suggestion
>>>> =), I
>>>> > >> think
>>>> > >> > >> we'd
>>>> > >> > >> > still need to have an official brainstorming and decision on
>>>> the
>>>> > >> webapp
>>>> > >> > >> to
>>>> > >> > >> > make. I don't want to discourage people just because it
>>>> seems we're
>>>> > >> on a
>>>> > >> > >> > particular track of thinking... at least not this early on.
>>>> > >> > >> > As an aside, I was thinking we could use Pivotal
>>>> > >> > >> > Tracker<http://pivotaltracker.com>for story/bug tracking...
>>>> I know
>>>> > >> > >> > Steve is down with that. One cool feature
>>>> > >> > >> > that should be out this week is public feeds for projects:
>>>> > >> > >> > Let's plan on meeting for 1.5 hours: the first half hour
>>>> will be
>>>> > >> spent
>>>> > >> > >> > brainstorming and voting on ideas... show up with a
>>>> one-minute
>>>> > >> pitch
>>>> > >> > >> (yes, *
>>>> > >> > >> > one* minute) if you have an idea! The remaining hour will be
>>>> spent
>>>> > >> in
>>>> > >> > >> groups
>>>> > >> > >> > of 2 or 3, independently working on:
>>>> > >> > >> > - setting up the rails/git/hosting environment
>>>> > >> > >> > - sketching out model interaction
>>>> > >> > >> > - sketching out look and feel
>>>> > >> > >> > - writing up stories for project tracking
>>>> > >> > >> > - anything else
>>>> > >> > >> > We'll need to think of a place to meet as well. I'd much
>>>> prefer
>>>> > >> > >> somewhere in
>>>> > >> > >> > the downtown area... Barriques off the square, mayhaps?
>>>> > >> > >> > Contrary to my email about the official Mad-Railers meeting,
>>>> I will
>>>> > >> be
>>>> > >> > >> > around next week due to a change in travel plans. If you're
>>>> > >> interested,
>>>> > >> > >> > please respond with your availability for March 2, 4 or 5
>>>> (Monday,
>>>> > >> > >> Wednesday
>>>> > >> > >> > or Thursday).
>>>> > >> > >> > :brad
>>>> > >> > >> > PS: Invite your friends! From the list of TODOs I made, only
>>>> one is
>>>> > >> > >> specific
>>>> > >> > >> > to rails so far. And once we get coding, pair programming
>>>> will fill
>>>> > >> in
>>>> > >> > >> any
>>>> > >> > >> > gaps in knowledge.
>>>> > >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Abraham Williams <
>>>> > >> 4bra...@gmail.com>
>>>> > >> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >> > >> > > Although I don't think that getting back into Rails is
>>>> good for
>>>> > >> my
>>>> > >> > >> schedule
>>>> > >> > >> > > I'm in.
>>>> > >> > >> > > In theory it is possible to write a script to scape the
>>>> metro
>>>> > >> site and
>>>> > >> > >> get
>>>> > >> > >> > > that added to Google. As far as I can tell they don't do
>>>> any
>>>> > >> > >> verification if
>>>> > >> > >> > > it is actually someone official submiting the info:
>>>> > >> > >> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:29, Colin Alteveer <
>>>> > >> altev...@gmail.com>
>>>> > >> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >> > >> > >> I would love to chip-in.
>>>> > >> > >> > >> I agree with the whole customer-driven aspect perhaps
>>>> being a
>>>> > >> bit
>>>> > >> > >> > >> cumbersome, though it would be good practice for the
>>>> "real"
>>>> > >> world. On
>>>> > >> > >> the
>>>> > >> > >> > >> other hand, non-car transportation for the commute is a
>>>> big deal
>>>> > >> in
>>>> > >> > >> Madison,
>>>> > >> > >> > >> and we could probably get some good traction/interest in
>>>> the
>>>> > >> project.
>>>> > >> > >> What
>>>> > >> > >> > >> about adding bus transportation to the equation (for when
>>>> it's
>>>> > >> > >> raining =D)?
>>>> > >> > >> > >> I don't think Google Transit covers this info, and the
>>>> > >> > >> mymetrobus.comsite is far from awesome. Is this too much?
>>>> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Bradley Grzesiak <
>>>> > >> > >> listro...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> > >> > >> > >>> OK, folks. Are Steve and I the only ones who are
>>>> remotely
>>>> > >> interested
>>>> > >> > >> in
>>>> > >> > >> > >>> this?
>>>> > >> > >> > >>> If anything, we could try to invite some Rails n00bs and
>>>> pair
>>>> > >> them
>>>> > >> > >> up
>>>> > >> > >> > >>> with an "expert"... consider it a good deed for the
>>>> Rails and
>>>> > >> > >> Madison
>>>> > >> > >> > >>> communities. =)
>>>> > >> > >> > >>> And while I have no issues personally with Steve's
>>>> suggestion
>>>> > >> of
>>>> > >> > >> Amigos,
>>>> > >> > >> > >>> if it seems too rigorous or customer-driven for a fun
>>>> project,
>>>> > >> > >> suggest your
>>>> > >> > >> > >>> own fun project!
>>>> > >> > >> > >>> :brad
>>>> > >> > >> > >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Anderson <
