problems with finder

[Jesper Ordrup]

Hi all,

Please forgive me if this is not the right group for this posting
but .. I'm not completly into this and therefore I can't figure out if
this is problem is fuse, macfusion or Leopard related. Here goes ...

Situation:
My configuration contains 2 mounts: 1 for ftp and one for sftp

Using FTP
I can create a mount and connect without any problems, I can browse
folders and things seem to work. I've seen some people suggest others
to use some options when connecting. This is probably only for those
who don't use mactfusion (can it be done using macfusion then please
let me know how to ...)

When trying to use the ftp fs I run into several problems:

1. When dragging files from any local ressource (desktop or the likes)
I'm prompted something starting with "you may need to enter the name
and password for an administrator to change the item named ...". I'm
not propted any password .. and I'm certainly not changing the file.
I'm copying. Additionally I'm asked if I want to copy the files that I
have permission to read ... I click continue ..

The files are then copied and in the end - maybe after some more
prompts - the file might be copied. Or it might not.

2. renaming remote files might work. sometimes I just get that I
havent got sufficient rights (even though I have).

3. copying files from the ftp site sometimes works .. when it don't I
try to get more info on the file and I've noticed that finder reports
that I have "custom rights" ... even though I've got full rights to
the files.

I've tried all the above using a regular ftp client and then
everything works.

My setup:
I'm running the latest macfuse version.
I'm running the latest macfusion
When configuring ftp sites I'm using the "build in" fs ftp. (are there
any others)?
Mac i running Leopard 10.5.4

Please help with any clue you've got ... Thanks

Kindly,
Jesper

(this posting was also posted in macfuse-devel as I didn't know of
this group)

[Graham Perrin]

To the best of my knowledge…

1) Using what's provided by Apple

/System/Library/Filesystems/ftp.fs
is included with Mac OS X.

Finder | Go menu | Connect to Server… 
can use this ftp.fs to make a read-only connection to an FTP server.

Using Finder to simply copy _from_ a volume mounted in this way should
be trouble-free.


2) Using MacFUSE

If you take the MacFusion route to working with MacFUSE
then primarily you're offered two approaches
(both separate from the ftp.fs installed by Apple):

SSHFS <http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html>

CurlFtpFS <http://curlftpfs.sourceforge.net/>

Using Finder to:

* copy _to and from_ volumes mounted in this way

* attempt other actions that would not be possible with Finder without
MacFUSE

— may cause Finder to present messages that are not truly
representative of the situation in which you place it.

A highlight from <http://groups.google.com/group/macfuse-devel/msg/
515eb00d2d1009f1>:

> The Finder has lots of additional layers between the user and
> the file system--when you run commands from a shell, you are
> closer to the file system. Within these layers, the Finder
> does various types of preflight checking, validation, rolling
> back, and so on. Therefore, you shouldn't be surprised if the
> Finder is far more finicky and unforgiving.

It's possible, but not desirable, to encounter an FTP or SFTP service
that can not provide, in a FUSE context, everything that's required by
Apple Finder.

If you have any specific issues, then probably the best place to
detail each one is the Macfusion Trac at <http://macfusionapp.org/
support.html>.

Regards
Graham