Ebay # 280345036036

This just sold today for $13000. I suppose at that price, the new owner will
think it qualifies as a historic Lotus and will probably want to race it in
our vintage groups.
Roger Sieling

On May 19, 9:06 pm, roger Sieling <rlsiel...@gmail.com> wrote:

On May 20, 2009, at 3:33 PM, John W. Watson. wrote:

Who cares? !!

I can't imagine paying anything more than a pittance for it. I'd say it is
about 8-10K more than it is worth.

Roger

Well, it's certainly not a genuine XI but that doesn't mean it's  
totally without value.  It appeared to be built around MG midget  
mechanicals (lots of reasonably priced tuning parts for the engine)  
and usefully retained the MG's road registration.  To my mind, this  
car retains the ethos of early Lotus cars:  a slightly sophisticated  
kit car, wrenched and driven to death by enthusiastic amateurs.  I  
think it could be quite enjoyable and competitive, driven on the road  
(rather than trailered) to the local auto sprints and hill climbs.  
Unlike the real McCoy, if it got bend in the process, the owner  
wouldn't cry too many tears.  Would anyone drive a genuine club XI to  
the coffee shop on a sunny Saturday morning?  Probably not--they've  
become too collectible, too valuable.  The Westfield can be enjoyed.  
Very few can afford the real Mona Lisa.  Just about everyone can  
afford a good art print...

My 2 cents,
George in Maryland

On May 20, 2009, at 7:21 PM, roger Sieling wrote:

Is there not a westfield list?

On May 20, 2009, at 8:00 PM, George Albaugh wrote:

Well, it's certainly not a genuine XI but that doesn't mean it's  
totally without value.  It appeared to be built around MG midget  
mechanicals (lots of reasonably priced tuning parts for the engine)  
and usefully retained the MG's road registration.  To my mind, this  
car retains the ethos of early Lotus cars:  a slightly sophisticated  
kit car, wrenched and driven to death by enthusiastic amateurs.  I  
think it could be quite enjoyable and competitive, driven on the road  
(rather than trailered) to the local auto sprints and hill climbs.  
Unlike the real McCoy, if it got bend in the process, the owner  
wouldn't cry too many tears.  Would anyone drive a genuine club XI to  
the coffee shop on a sunny Saturday morning?  Probably not--they've  
become too collectible, too valuable.  The Westfield can be enjoyed.  
Very few can afford the real Mona Lisa.  Just about everyone can  
afford a good art print...

My 2 cents,
George in Maryland

On May 20, 2009, at 7:21 PM, roger Sieling wrote:

Thank you John.

From: John Donohoe
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:29 PM
To: Lotus-History@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Westfield sold on ebay

Is there not a westfield list?

On May 20, 2009, at 8:00 PM, George Albaugh wrote:

Well, it's certainly not a genuine XI but that doesn't mean it's totally without value.  It appeared to be built around MG midget mechanicals (lots of reasonably priced tuning parts for the engine) and usefully retained the MG's road registration.  To my mind, this car retains the ethos of early Lotus cars:  a slightly sophisticated kit car, wrenched and driven to death by enthusiastic amateurs.  I think it could be quite enjoyable and competitive, driven on the road (rather than trailered) to the local auto sprints and hill climbs.  Unlike the real McCoy, if it got bend in the process, the owner wouldn't cry too many tears.  Would anyone drive a genuine club XI to the coffee shop on a sunny Saturday morning?  Probably not--they've become too collectible, too valuable.  The Westfield can be enjoyed.  Very few can afford the real Mona Lisa.  Just about everyone can afford a good art print...

My 2 cents,  
George in Maryland

On May 20, 2009, at 7:21 PM, roger Sieling wrote:

  I can't imagine paying anything more than a pittance for it. I'd say it is about 8-10K more than it is worth.

  Roger

  On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:25 PM, tom <idiotcount...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Are you suggesting that price is low or high?

    On May 19, 9:06 pm, roger Sieling <rlsiel...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > Ebay # 280345036036
    >
    > This just sold today for $13000. I suppose at that price, the new owner will
    > think it qualifies as a historic Lotus and will probably want to race it in
    > our vintage groups.
    > Roger Sieling

I don't know.

Yes George !!
I drove my Eleven [chassis 155, ex Naylor-- Maserati engined]
down to the pub this morning.
Shall put a muffler on it next time.
Regards
VFT

  .  Would anyone drive a genuine club XI to the coffee shop on a sunny Saturday morning?  Probably not--they've become too collectible, too valuable.  The Westfield can be enjoyed.  Very few can afford the real Mona Lisa.  Just about everyone can afford a good art print...

  My 2 cents,  
  George in Maryland

VFT,

I didn't know you had a Westfield Eleven!

What does the Eleven Registrar have to say about this?

Pubs sound dodgy places to me with all these funny cars in their parking
lots; I best stay indoors!

JWW

From: Lotus-History@googlegroups.com [mailto:Lotus-History@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Vic Thomas
Sent: 25 May 2009 22:20
To: Lotus-History@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Westfield sold on ebay

Yes George !!

I drove my Eleven [chassis 155, ex Naylor-- Maserati engined]

down to the pub this morning.

Shall put a muffler on it next time.

Regards

VFT

.  Would anyone drive a genuine club XI to the coffee shop on a sunny
Saturday morning?  Probably not--they've become too collectible, too
valuable.  The Westfield can be enjoyed.  Very few can afford the real Mona
Lisa.  Just about everyone can afford a good art print...

My 2 cents,  

George in Maryland

<BR

Dear John
You obviously didnt read George`s message carefully !!
VFT
ps see below

  VFT,

  I didn't know you had a Westfield Eleven!

  What does the Eleven Registrar have to say about this?

  Pubs sound dodgy places to me with all these funny cars in their parking lots; I best stay indoors!

  JWW

  Yes George !!

  I drove my Eleven [chassis 155, ex Naylor-- Maserati engined]

  down to the pub this morning.

  Shall put a muffler on it next time.

  Regards

  VFT

    .  Would anyone drive a genuine club XI to the coffee shop on a sunny Saturday morning?  Probably not--they've become too collectible, too valuable.  The Westfield can be enjoyed.  Very few can afford the real Mona Lisa.  Just about everyone can afford a good art print...

    My 2 cents,  

    George in Maryland

    <BR

VFT:  Glad to hear that you're enjoying your car!  I'm not sure that  
my 23b has enough ground clearance to make it over all the sleeping  
policemen on the way to may favorite watering hole!

Best regards,
George in Maryland
On May 25, 2009, at 6:25 PM, Vic Thomas wrote:

*I displayed an S1 LM Eleven alongside a Westfield Eleven in my shop for
years . . (both now sold and gone)  The first remark from most visitors was
about the mundane origin of the Westfield's MG midget drive train.  The next
observations was that the frame design and frame construction of the
Westfield looked worlds better that the real Eleven!  *
*Tony in Texas*

Surely there is a westfield list to which I've accidentally  
subscribed... #$%^(&*

John D.

On May 25, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Elton E. (Tony) Clark wrote:

I displayed an S1 LM Eleven alongside a Westfield Eleven in my shop  
for years . . (both now sold and gone)  The first remark from most  
visitors was about the mundane origin of the Westfield's MG midget  
drive train.  The next observations was that the frame design and  
frame construction of the Westfield looked worlds better that the real  
Eleven!
Tony in Texas

*Piss off!  'Twas about my Eleven as well!
*

Right, very cordial of you.

Thank you,
John D.

On May 25, 2009, at 9:44 PM, Elton E. (Tony) Clark wrote:

Piss off!  'Twas about my Eleven as well!

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:38 PM, John Donohoe <jo...@ciesaonline.com>  
wrote:
Surely there is a westfield list to which I've accidentally  
subscribed... #$%^(&*

John D.

On May 25, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Elton E. (Tony) Clark wrote:

I displayed an S1 LM Eleven alongside a Westfield Eleven in my shop  
for years . .

As Administrator of this group I must apologise for allowing this
thread to continue for so long.

I have just had a total hip replacement operation (successful I am
pleased to say) and this has put me offline for about ten days,
otherwise I would have acted sooner.

If you REALLY want to discuss the Westfield Eleven (which incidentally
I think is a very nicely engineered product) please do so on the
Westfield Eleven Yahoo Group website http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/westfield_eleven/

As far as I am concerned this subject is now closed and any further
messages will be removed.

Peter Ross

On May 26, 2:22 am, "Elton E. (Tony) Clark" <eltoncl...@gmail.com>
wrote: