has any one tried making dove tail joints on the legacy i am sure that
there is an easier way but i wanted to try the biggest problem that i
am having is that i lower the inside rail so that the work piece goes
between the inside and outside rails and then i don't have enough z
travel i know they make extensions but they just don't look like a
good idea to me any help would be appreciated thank you bob
----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:06 PM
Subject: dovetail joint
> has any one tried making dove tail joints on the legacy i am sure that
> there is an easier way but i wanted to try the biggest problem that i
> am having is that i lower the inside rail so that the work piece goes
> between the inside and outside rails and then i don't have enough z
> travel i know they make extensions but they just don't look like a
> good idea to me any help would be appreciated thank you bob
Good morning BOB
why not make a horizontal jig to hold your wood?
I made one a while back. If not you could always clamp your wood to the legacy's side rails, and cut from there?
I think that the best way to use the Legacy here would be to use a template on the Legacy.
If this is something that you must play with I would suggest to look at the WoodRat web site. http://www.woodrat.com/ they have some neat ideas that could be used on the Legacy.
I have to run!
have a great day! ;-)
good luck on your dovetail joints, Please keep us informed on how it works out.
C.A.G.
----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:06 PM
Subject: dovetail joint
> has any one tried making dove tail joints on the legacy i am sure that
> there is an easier way but i wanted to try the biggest problem that i
> am having is that i lower the inside rail so that the work piece goes
> between the inside and outside rails and then i don't have enough z
> travel i know they make extensions but they just don't look like a
> good idea to me any help would be appreciated thank you bob
i want to thank you both for replying and tell you the rest of the
story i have both of the vise sets from legacy already so i figured
that i was half way there i want to make half blind dovetails so i
made the jigs out of mdf board and fastened them to both vise sets
took the time to write the program and cut out a template mounted
everything and then realized that the z travel was to short which is
typical for me forgetting something basic when it is to late to turn
back so I've been looking everywhere for a router bit that would be
long enough everywhere except magnate the obvious place again typical
for me so thank you again for saving my bacon hopefully i will be
making drawers by the end of the week bob
On Jun 21, 6:01 am, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote:
> Good morning BOB
> why not make a horizontal jig to hold your wood?
> I made one a while back. If not you could always clamp your wood to the
> legacy's side rails, and cut from there?
> I think that the best way to use the Legacy here would be to use a template
> on the Legacy.
> If this is something that you must play with I would suggest to look at the
> WoodRat web site.http://www.woodrat.com/they have some neat ideas that
> could be used on the Legacy.
> I have to run!
> have a great day! ;-)
> good luck on your dovetail joints, Please keep us informed on how it works
> out.
> C.A.G.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:06 PM
> Subject: dovetail joint
> > has any one tried making dove tail joints on the legacy i am sure that
> > there is an easier way but i wanted to try the biggest problem that i
> > am having is that i lower the inside rail so that the work piece goes
> > between the inside and outside rails and then i don't have enough z
> > travel i know they make extensions but they just don't look like a
> > good idea to me any help would be appreciated thank you bob
I didn't realize you had the cnc upgrade. I'll be curious to hear how the
tolerances work out for you on the half blind dovetails. Do you have the
rack and pinion or standard screw?
----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: dovetail joint
i want to thank you both for replying and tell you the rest of the
story i have both of the vise sets from legacy already so i figured
that i was half way there i want to make half blind dovetails so i
made the jigs out of mdf board and fastened them to both vise sets
took the time to write the program and cut out a template mounted
everything and then realized that the z travel was to short which is
typical for me forgetting something basic when it is to late to turn
back so I've been looking everywhere for a router bit that would be
long enough everywhere except magnate the obvious place again typical
for me so thank you again for saving my bacon hopefully i will be
making drawers by the end of the week bob
On Jun 21, 6:01 am, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote:
> Good morning BOB
> why not make a horizontal jig to hold your wood?
> I made one a while back. If not you could always clamp your wood to the
> legacy's side rails, and cut from there?
> I think that the best way to use the Legacy here would be to use a
template
> on the Legacy.
> If this is something that you must play with I would suggest to look at
the
> WoodRat web site.http://www.woodrat.com/they have some neat ideas that
> could be used on the Legacy.
> I have to run!
> have a great day! ;-)
> good luck on your dovetail joints, Please keep us informed on how it works
> out.
> C.A.G.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:06 PM
> Subject: dovetail joint
> > has any one tried making dove tail joints on the legacy i am sure that
> > there is an easier way but i wanted to try the biggest problem that i
> > am having is that i lower the inside rail so that the work piece goes
> > between the inside and outside rails and then i don't have enough z
> > travel i know they make extensions but they just don't look like a
> > good idea to me any help would be appreciated thank you bob
> I didn't realize you had the cnc upgrade. I'll be curious to hear how the
> tolerances work out for you on the half blind dovetails. Do you have the
> rack and pinion or standard screw?
> -Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:28 PM
> Subject: Re: dovetail joint
> i want to thank you both for replying and tell you the rest of the
> story i have both of the vise sets from legacy already so i figured
> that i was half way there i want to make half blind dovetails so i
> made the jigs out of mdf board and fastened them to both vise sets
> took the time to write the program and cut out a template mounted
> everything and then realized that the z travel was to short which is
> typical for me forgetting something basic when it is to late to turn
> back so I've been looking everywhere for a router bit that would be
> long enough everywhere except magnate the obvious place again typical
> for me so thank you again for saving my bacon hopefully i will be
> making drawers by the end of the week bob
> On Jun 21, 6:01 am, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote:
> > Good morning BOB
> > why not make a horizontal jig to hold your wood?
> > I made one a while back. If not you could always clamp your wood to the
> > legacy's side rails, and cut from there?
> > I think that the best way to use the Legacy here would be to use a
> template
> > on the Legacy.
> > If this is something that you must play with I would suggest to look at
> the
> > WoodRat web site.http://www.woodrat.com/theyhave some neat ideas that
> > could be used on the Legacy.
> > I have to run!
> > have a great day! ;-)
> > good luck on your dovetail joints, Please keep us informed on how it works
> > out.
> > C.A.G.
> > > has any one tried making dove tail joints on the legacy i am sure that
> > > there is an easier way but i wanted to try the biggest problem that i
> > > am having is that i lower the inside rail so that the work piece goes
> > > between the inside and outside rails and then i don't have enough z
> > > travel i know they make extensions but they just don't look like a
> > > good idea to me any help would be appreciated thank you bob
> > Legacy jig 3.JPG
> > 1146KViewDownload
> > Legacy jig 2.JPG
> > 1115KViewDownload
> > Legacy jig 1.JPG
> > 1107KViewDownload
> > Legacy jig side veiw.JPG
> > 1125KViewDownload
----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: dovetail joint
I'm afraid that i mislead you i have the standard 1200 machine i work
in a machine shop and made the template at work bob
On Jun 22, 3:34 am, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Glad to help,
> I didn't realize you had the cnc upgrade. I'll be curious to hear how the
> tolerances work out for you on the half blind dovetails. Do you have the
> rack and pinion or standard screw?
> -Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:28 PM
> Subject: Re: dovetail joint
> i want to thank you both for replying and tell you the rest of the
> story i have both of the vise sets from legacy already so i figured
> that i was half way there i want to make half blind dovetails so i
> made the jigs out of mdf board and fastened them to both vise sets
> took the time to write the program and cut out a template mounted
> everything and then realized that the z travel was to short which is
> typical for me forgetting something basic when it is to late to turn
> back so I've been looking everywhere for a router bit that would be
> long enough everywhere except magnate the obvious place again typical
> for me so thank you again for saving my bacon hopefully i will be
> making drawers by the end of the week bob
> On Jun 21, 6:01 am, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote:
> > Good morning BOB
> > why not make a horizontal jig to hold your wood?
> > I made one a while back. If not you could always clamp your wood to the
> > legacy's side rails, and cut from there?
> > I think that the best way to use the Legacy here would be to use a
> template
> > on the Legacy.
> > If this is something that you must play with I would suggest to look at
> the
> > WoodRat web site.http://www.woodrat.com/theyhave some neat ideas that
> > could be used on the Legacy.
> > I have to run!
> > have a great day! ;-)
> > good luck on your dovetail joints, Please keep us informed on how it
works
> > out.
> > C.A.G.
> > > has any one tried making dove tail joints on the legacy i am sure that
> > > there is an easier way but i wanted to try the biggest problem that i
> > > am having is that i lower the inside rail so that the work piece goes
> > > between the inside and outside rails and then i don't have enough z
> > > travel i know they make extensions but they just don't look like a
> > > good idea to me any help would be appreciated thank you bob
> > Legacy jig 3.JPG
> > 1146KViewDownload
> > Legacy jig 2.JPG
> > 1115KViewDownload
> > Legacy jig 1.JPG
> > 1107KViewDownload
> > Legacy jig side veiw.JPG
> > 1125KViewDownload
well i have been messing with this dovetail joint on and off for a
couple of weeks now and i am at another road block the problem is that
the tails & pins are not the same size the bit is 1/2 " at it's widest
the template is a 1/2" so that i can use the stylist and the z depth
is 1/2 " when i make the cut the pins are 1/2" at it's widest and
the tails are 5/8 i raised z in small increments thinking it would
help but it doesn't i don't want to give up yet but I'm out of idea's
any help would be appreciated thank you bob
On Jun 22, 3:49 pm, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> No you didn't mislead, I misread your message. Your on the right path, let
> us know how it works out.
> -Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:46 AM
> Subject: Re: dovetail joint
> I'm afraid that i mislead you i have the standard 1200 machine i work
> in a machine shop and made the template at work bob
> On Jun 22, 3:34 am, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Glad to help,
> > I didn't realize you had the cnc upgrade. I'll be curious to hear how the
> > tolerances work out for you on the half blind dovetails. Do you have the
> > rack and pinion or standard screw?
> > i want to thank you both for replying and tell you the rest of the
> > story i have both of the vise sets from legacy already so i figured
> > that i was half way there i want to make half blind dovetails so i
> > made the jigs out of mdf board and fastened them to both vise sets
> > took the time to write the program and cut out a template mounted
> > everything and then realized that the z travel was to short which is
> > typical for me forgetting something basic when it is to late to turn
> > back so I've been looking everywhere for a router bit that would be
> > long enough everywhere except magnate the obvious place again typical
> > for me so thank you again for saving my bacon hopefully i will be
> > making drawers by the end of the week bob
> > On Jun 21, 6:01 am, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote:
> > > Good morning BOB
> > > why not make a horizontal jig to hold your wood?
> > > I made one a while back. If not you could always clamp your wood to the
> > > legacy's side rails, and cut from there?
> > > I think that the best way to use the Legacy here would be to use a
> > template
> > > on the Legacy.
> > > If this is something that you must play with I would suggest to look at
> > the
> > > WoodRat web site.http://www.woodrat.com/theyhavesome neat ideas that
> > > could be used on the Legacy.
> > > I have to run!
> > > have a great day! ;-)
> > > good luck on your dovetail joints, Please keep us informed on how it
> works
> > > out.
> > > C.A.G.
> > > > has any one tried making dove tail joints on the legacy i am sure that
> > > > there is an easier way but i wanted to try the biggest problem that i
> > > > am having is that i lower the inside rail so that the work piece goes
> > > > between the inside and outside rails and then i don't have enough z
> > > > travel i know they make extensions but they just don't look like a
> > > > good idea to me any help would be appreciated thank you bob
I recall you mentioning a template. I'm assuming it's a template that has
fingers that forces 1/2" spacing. If that's the case, either the bit is
undersized or the template spacing is slightly off, or there might be play
in the follower. How far off are we talking? Is it consistent or
intermittent spacing.
----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: dovetail joint
well i have been messing with this dovetail joint on and off for a
couple of weeks now and i am at another road block the problem is that
the tails & pins are not the same size the bit is 1/2 " at it's widest
the template is a 1/2" so that i can use the stylist and the z depth
is 1/2 " when i make the cut the pins are 1/2" at it's widest and
the tails are 5/8 i raised z in small increments thinking it would
help but it doesn't i don't want to give up yet but I'm out of idea's
any help would be appreciated thank you bob
On Jun 22, 3:49 pm, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> No you didn't mislead, I misread your message. Your on the right path, let
> us know how it works out.
> -Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:46 AM
> Subject: Re: dovetail joint
> I'm afraid that i mislead you i have the standard 1200 machine i work
> in a machine shop and made the template at work bob
> On Jun 22, 3:34 am, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Glad to help,
> > I didn't realize you had the cnc upgrade. I'll be curious to hear how
the
> > tolerances work out for you on the half blind dovetails. Do you have the
> > rack and pinion or standard screw?
> > i want to thank you both for replying and tell you the rest of the
> > story i have both of the vise sets from legacy already so i figured
> > that i was half way there i want to make half blind dovetails so i
> > made the jigs out of mdf board and fastened them to both vise sets
> > took the time to write the program and cut out a template mounted
> > everything and then realized that the z travel was to short which is
> > typical for me forgetting something basic when it is to late to turn
> > back so I've been looking everywhere for a router bit that would be
> > long enough everywhere except magnate the obvious place again typical
> > for me so thank you again for saving my bacon hopefully i will be
> > making drawers by the end of the week bob
> > On Jun 21, 6:01 am, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote:
> > > Good morning BOB
> > > why not make a horizontal jig to hold your wood?
> > > I made one a while back. If not you could always clamp your wood to
the
> > > legacy's side rails, and cut from there?
> > > I think that the best way to use the Legacy here would be to use a
> > template
> > > on the Legacy.
> > > If this is something that you must play with I would suggest to look
at
> > the
> > > WoodRat web site.http://www.woodrat.com/theyhavesome neat ideas that
> > > could be used on the Legacy.
> > > I have to run!
> > > have a great day! ;-)
> > > good luck on your dovetail joints, Please keep us informed on how it
> works
> > > out.
> > > C.A.G.
> > > > has any one tried making dove tail joints on the legacy i am sure
that
> > > > there is an easier way but i wanted to try the biggest problem that
i
> > > > am having is that i lower the inside rail so that the work piece
goes
> > > > between the inside and outside rails and then i don't have enough z
> > > > travel i know they make extensions but they just don't look like a
> > > > good idea to me any help would be appreciated thank you bob
hi Tim the template fingers are 1/2" wide and 1/2" apart and the cuts
measure 1/2" and they are evenly spaced it is off 1/8" the tails are
to big i know what is wrong but am struggling to explain it so bear
with me the wide part of the pins is 1/2" apart and the narrow part of
the tail is 1/2" which is wrong the wide part of the tail should be
1/2" I'm not setting it up right the tails are 1/8" of because of the
14 degree angle of the cutter to me the pins are made right and I'm
doing something wrong in setting up the vertical board that has the
tails I've been staring at it to long to see the problem any help
would be appreciated bob
On Jul 1, 11:58 pm, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I recall you mentioning a template. I'm assuming it's a template that has
> fingers that forces 1/2" spacing. If that's the case, either the bit is
> undersized or the template spacing is slightly off, or there might be play
> in the follower. How far off are we talking? Is it consistent or
> intermittent spacing.
> -Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: dovetail joint
> well i have been messing with this dovetail joint on and off for a
> couple of weeks now and i am at another road block the problem is that
> the tails & pins are not the same size the bit is 1/2 " at it's widest
> the template is a 1/2" so that i can use the stylist and the z depth
> is 1/2 " when i make the cut the pins are 1/2" at it's widest and
> the tails are 5/8 i raised z in small increments thinking it would
> help but it doesn't i don't want to give up yet but I'm out of idea's
> any help would be appreciated thank you bob
> On Jun 22, 3:49 pm, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > No you didn't mislead, I misread your message. Your on the right path, let
> > us know how it works out.
> > -Tim
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: dovetail joint
> > I'm afraid that i mislead you i have the standard 1200 machine i work
> > in a machine shop and made the template at work bob
> > On Jun 22, 3:34 am, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > Glad to help,
> > > I didn't realize you had the cnc upgrade. I'll be curious to hear how
> the
> > > tolerances work out for you on the half blind dovetails. Do you have the
> > > rack and pinion or standard screw?
> > > i want to thank you both for replying and tell you the rest of the
> > > story i have both of the vise sets from legacy already so i figured
> > > that i was half way there i want to make half blind dovetails so i
> > > made the jigs out of mdf board and fastened them to both vise sets
> > > took the time to write the program and cut out a template mounted
> > > everything and then realized that the z travel was to short which is
> > > typical for me forgetting something basic when it is to late to turn
> > > back so I've been looking everywhere for a router bit that would be
> > > long enough everywhere except magnate the obvious place again typical
> > > for me so thank you again for saving my bacon hopefully i will be
> > > making drawers by the end of the week bob
> > > On Jun 21, 6:01 am, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote:
> > > > Good morning BOB
> > > > why not make a horizontal jig to hold your wood?
> > > > I made one a while back. If not you could always clamp your wood to
> the
> > > > legacy's side rails, and cut from there?
> > > > I think that the best way to use the Legacy here would be to use a
> > > template
> > > > on the Legacy.
> > > > If this is something that you must play with I would suggest to look
> at
> > > the
> > > > WoodRat web site.http://www.woodrat.com/theyhavesomeneat ideas that
> > > > could be used on the Legacy.
> > > > I have to run!
> > > > have a great day! ;-)
> > > > good luck on your dovetail joints, Please keep us informed on how it
> > works
> > > > out.
> > > > C.A.G.
> > > > > has any one tried making dove tail joints on the legacy i am sure
> that
> > > > > there is an easier way but i wanted to try the biggest problem that
> i
> > > > > am having is that i lower the inside rail so that the work piece
> goes
> > > > > between the inside and outside rails and then i don't have enough z
> > > > > travel i know they make extensions but they just don't look like a
> > > > > good idea to me any help would be appreciated thank you bob
> hi Tim the template fingers are 1/2" wide and 1/2" apart and the cuts
> measure 1/2" and they are evenly spaced it is off 1/8" the tails are
> to big i know what is wrong but am struggling to explain it so bear
> with me the wide part of the pins is 1/2" apart and the narrow part of
> the tail is 1/2" which is wrong the wide part of the tail should be
> 1/2" I'm not setting it up right the tails are 1/8" of because of the
> 14 degree angle of the cutter to me the pins are made right and I'm
> doing something wrong in setting up the vertical board that has the
> tails I've been staring at it to long to see the problem any help
> would be appreciated bob
> On Jul 1, 11:58 pm, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > I recall you mentioning a template. I'm assuming it's a template that has
> > fingers that forces 1/2" spacing. If that's the case, either the bit is
> > undersized or the template spacing is slightly off, or there might be play
> > in the follower. How far off are we talking? Is it consistent or
> > intermittent spacing.
> > well i have been messing with this dovetail joint on and off for a
> > couple of weeks now and i am at another road block the problem is that
> > the tails & pins are not the same size the bit is 1/2 " at it's widest
> > the template is a 1/2" so that i can use the stylist and the z depth
> > is 1/2 " when i make the cut the pins are 1/2" at it's widest and
> > the tails are 5/8 i raised z in small increments thinking it would
> > help but it doesn't i don't want to give up yet but I'm out of idea's
> > any help would be appreciated thank you bob
> > On Jun 22, 3:49 pm, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > No you didn't mislead, I misread your message. Your on the right path, let
> > > us know how it works out.
> > > -Tim
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
> > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:46 AM
> > > Subject: Re: dovetail joint
> > > I'm afraid that i mislead you i have the standard 1200 machine i work
> > > in a machine shop and made the template at work bob
> > > On Jun 22, 3:34 am, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > Glad to help,
> > > > I didn't realize you had the cnc upgrade. I'll be curious to hear how
> > the
> > > > tolerances work out for you on the half blind dovetails. Do you have the
> > > > rack and pinion or standard screw?
> > > > i want to thank you both for replying and tell you the rest of the
> > > > story i have both of the vise sets from legacy already so i figured
> > > > that i was half way there i want to make half blind dovetails so i
> > > > made the jigs out of mdf board and fastened them to both vise sets
> > > > took the time to write the program and cut out a template mounted
> > > > everything and then realized that the z travel was to short which is
> > > > typical for me forgetting something basic when it is to late to turn
> > > > back so I've been looking everywhere for a router bit that would be
> > > > long enough everywhere except magnate the obvious place again typical
> > > > for me so thank you again for saving my bacon hopefully i will be
> > > > making drawers by the end of the week bob
> > > > On Jun 21, 6:01 am, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote:
> > > > > Good morning BOB
> > > > > why not make a horizontal jig to hold your wood?
> > > > > I made one a while back. If not you could always clamp your wood to
> > the
> > > > > legacy's side rails, and cut from there?
> > > > > I think that the best way to use the Legacy here would be to use a
> > > > template
> > > > > on the Legacy.
> > > > > If this is something that you must play with I would suggest to look
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > WoodRat web site.http://www.woodrat.com/theyhavesomeneatideas that
> > > > > could be used on the Legacy.
> > > > > I have to run!
> > > > > have a great day! ;-)
> > > > > good luck on your dovetail joints, Please keep us informed on how it
> > > works
> > > > > out.
> > > > > C.A.G.
> > > > > > has any one tried making dove tail joints on the legacy i am sure
> > that
> > > > > > there is an easier way but i wanted to try the biggest problem that
> > i
> > > > > > am having is that i lower the inside rail so that the work piece
> > goes
> > > > > > between the inside and outside rails and then i don't have enough z
> > > > > > travel i know they make extensions but they just don't look like a
> > > > > > good idea to me any help would be appreciated thank you bob
----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaren" <aarennew...@gmail.com>
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: dovetail joint
*Bump. Cleaning up the site.
On Jul 2, 7:27 am, BOB <bandlels...@cqservices.com> wrote:
> hi Tim the template fingers are 1/2" wide and 1/2" apart and the cuts
> measure 1/2" and they are evenly spaced it is off 1/8" the tails are
> to big i know what is wrong but am struggling to explain it so bear
> with me the wide part of the pins is 1/2" apart and the narrow part of
> the tail is 1/2" which is wrong the wide part of the tail should be
> 1/2" I'm not setting it up right the tails are 1/8" of because of the
> 14 degree angle of the cutter to me the pins are made right and I'm
> doing something wrong in setting up the vertical board that has the
> tails I've been staring at it to long to see the problem any help
> would be appreciated bob
> On Jul 1, 11:58 pm, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > I recall you mentioning a template. I'm assuming it's a template that
has
> > fingers that forces 1/2" spacing. If that's the case, either the bit is
> > undersized or the template spacing is slightly off, or there might be
play
> > in the follower. How far off are we talking? Is it consistent or
> > intermittent spacing.
> > well i have been messing with this dovetail joint on and off for a
> > couple of weeks now and i am at another road block the problem is that
> > the tails & pins are not the same size the bit is 1/2 " at it's widest
> > the template is a 1/2" so that i can use the stylist and the z depth
> > is 1/2 " when i make the cut the pins are 1/2" at it's widest and
> > the tails are 5/8 i raised z in small increments thinking it would
> > help but it doesn't i don't want to give up yet but I'm out of idea's
> > any help would be appreciated thank you bob
> > On Jun 22, 3:49 pm, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > No you didn't mislead, I misread your message. Your on the right path,
let
> > > us know how it works out.
> > > -Tim
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "BOB" <bandlels...@cqservices.com>
> > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
<Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:46 AM
> > > Subject: Re: dovetail joint
> > > I'm afraid that i mislead you i have the standard 1200 machine i work
> > > in a machine shop and made the template at work bob
> > > On Jun 22, 3:34 am, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > Glad to help,
> > > > I didn't realize you had the cnc upgrade. I'll be curious to hear
how
> > the
> > > > tolerances work out for you on the half blind dovetails. Do you have
the
> > > > rack and pinion or standard screw?
> > > > i want to thank you both for replying and tell you the rest of the
> > > > story i have both of the vise sets from legacy already so i figured
> > > > that i was half way there i want to make half blind dovetails so i
> > > > made the jigs out of mdf board and fastened them to both vise sets
> > > > took the time to write the program and cut out a template mounted
> > > > everything and then realized that the z travel was to short which is
> > > > typical for me forgetting something basic when it is to late to turn
> > > > back so I've been looking everywhere for a router bit that would be
> > > > long enough everywhere except magnate the obvious place again
typical
> > > > for me so thank you again for saving my bacon hopefully i will be
> > > > making drawers by the end of the week bob
> > > > On Jun 21, 6:01 am, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote:
> > > > > Good morning BOB
> > > > > why not make a horizontal jig to hold your wood?
> > > > > I made one a while back. If not you could always clamp your wood
to
> > the
> > > > > legacy's side rails, and cut from there?
> > > > > I think that the best way to use the Legacy here would be to use a
> > > > template
> > > > > on the Legacy.
> > > > > If this is something that you must play with I would suggest to
look
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > WoodRat web site.http://www.woodrat.com/theyhavesomeneatideas that
> > > > > could be used on the Legacy.
> > > > > I have to run!
> > > > > have a great day! ;-)
> > > > > good luck on your dovetail joints, Please keep us informed on how
it
> > > works
> > > > > out.
> > > > > C.A.G.
> > > > > > has any one tried making dove tail joints on the legacy i am
sure
> > that
> > > > > > there is an easier way but i wanted to try the biggest problem
that
> > i
> > > > > > am having is that i lower the inside rail so that the work piece
> > goes
> > > > > > between the inside and outside rails and then i don't have
enough z
> > > > > > travel i know they make extensions but they just don't look like
a
> > > > > > good idea to me any help would be appreciated thank you bob
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