The national brands compose the world money

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Nikolay Kryachkov

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Dec 11, 2007, 1:59:57 PM12/11/07
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Sorry that I'm about money again but people are conducting the
changes:

http://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2007/12/national-brands-compose-world-money.html

I see a networking logic here and what do you see?

Nikolay

Nikolay Kryachkov

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Dec 24, 2007, 2:59:35 PM12/24/07
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01.04.07 I wrote in Oil & gas money post:

"Imagine someone has created electronic money based on oil & gas,
which are beyond central bank regulations. Why beyond? Because this
oil & gas money is not for making loan based dependency. It's for
trading any goods and services (in result) and for the appropriate
transactions, only for that.

Here is how it might work.

Need oil & gas? Pay e-money. Don't have it? Give us this and this in
exchange ...

As a matter of fact if some wealthy clans could create 100 years ago
the world currency and loan based banking, why another structure can't
emerge?

The main question is - who can even start thinking about it and where
- in Russia, in the Arabic world, in Venezuela, in the US, EU ...?"

22.12.07 RTE News reports:

"Chavez wants to extend barter scheme ...

Read on http://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2007/12/next-to-new-currency.html

Nikolay

On 11 дек, 21:59, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> Sorry that I'm about money again but people are conducting the
> changes:
>
> http://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2007/12/national-brands-compose-w...

Benoit

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Dec 26, 2007, 8:15:50 AM12/26/07
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Nikolay,

The question that keeps coming up for me is that the holders of the
major world currencies have geared money along with the various local,
geo-political Rule(s) of law(s), by calling money "Legal Tender".

This equation becomes then the Rule of Law=the Legal Tender which
becomes the basis for the decision makers who have to allow/or not,
access to trading currency.
As soon as any group of traders wishes to make a move that could
possibly bring instability to the basic fabric to the Law and Order of
the Capital System, then that group is soon faced with never ending
adversity, which sooner or later erupts into war, instead of emerging
into progress.

So regarding the questions of your post, the answer becomes one of
offering a trusted means of trading, which is born from human
interaction.

Trust between parties is the Capital.

Produce trust and you produce a genuine basis for trading currencies
to emerge because the Capital cannot even begin to materialise without
it, but also, the Capital cannot afford to ignore healthy feeding of
progress' subtantiatings!...

...sadly, we are burried under a big globalizing machine which is
geared on spearding the market place, first and last.
The hype of personal wealth fills the system with people who dont mind
being led into strengthening the deceit and distrust of profit-at-all-
cost mentality, all going on stronger in spite of moving in the
opposite direction of human's Health-Education-Correction.

Such behavior is what the badwill spinning out of control looks like
and which the financial world has been warned about by these confirmed
future historians:

http://www.normanmacrae.com/netfuture.html

http://www.normanmacrae.com/netfuture.html#Anchor-Changin-27687

http://clubofbethesda.blogspot.com/

All of these thoughts mean to say that genuine progress of emerging
currencies is:

Transparency-High-Trust-Currency as a complementary answer to Rule of
Law-Legal Tender.

If we can generate and manifest the demonstration of such an E-
currency, then we will have a genuine offer to the local-global
progress of decision-makers who cannot affort speculations that
jeoperdise The Rule of Law Legal Tender's equation.

Benoit

On Dec 24, 12:59 pm, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> 01.04.07 I wrote in Oil & gas money post:
>
> "Imagine someone has created electronic money based on oil & gas,
> which are beyond central bank regulations. Why beyond? Because this
> oil & gas money is not for making loan based dependency. It's for
> trading any goods and services (in result) and for the appropriate
> transactions, only for that.
>
> Here is how it might work.
>
> Need oil & gas? Pay e-money. Don't have it? Give us this and this in
> exchange ...
>
> As a matter of fact if some wealthy clans could create 100 years ago
> the world currency and loan based banking, why another structure can't
> emerge?
>
> The main question is - who can even start thinking about it and where
> - in Russia, in the Arabic world, in Venezuela, in the US, EU ...?"
>
> 22.12.07 RTE News reports:
>
> "Chavez wants to extend barter scheme ...
>
> Read onhttp://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2007/12/next-to-new-currency.html
>
> Nikolay
>
> On 11 дек, 21:59, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Sorry that I'm about money again but people are conducting the
> > changes:
>
> >http://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2007/12/national-brands-compose-w...
>
> > I see a networking logic here and what do you see?
>
> > Nikolay- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Nikolay Kryachkov

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Dec 27, 2007, 3:29:06 AM12/27/07
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Do you think Chavez (or any other local leader) creates a trusted
connections in Latin America and therefore a new Legal Tender is
possible there?

How do you think can new network currency overcome geo-political rules
and become non-governmental global currency?

Nikolay

Nikolay Kryachkov

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Dec 27, 2007, 3:31:53 AM12/27/07
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I meant any local leader elsewhere.

Nikolay

Benoit

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Dec 27, 2007, 5:54:38 AM12/27/07
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On Dec 27, 1:31 am, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> I meant any local leader elsewhere.
>
> Nikolay


History seems to demonstrate that currency does not need single local
leaders but rather, it needs the transparent lead of inspiration and
of progressive innovation that gains the people's trust and
engagement.
Of course, voices are heard and ideas get to be materialised by some
individuals, but in order to serve the wellbeing of currency, then
these individuals must themselves be followers of the lead that
generates the high trust.
Otherwise, we end up with dictatorships of the kind that never provide
peace to its own people.


> On 27 дек, 11:29, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:>
>
> > Do you think Chavez (or any other local leader) creates a trusted connections in Latin America and therefore a new Legal Tender is possible there?

Trusted connection is the key to currency and it is the basis for the
Legal Tender to remain tender.
If those like Chavez and the rest who feel the need for change could
raise such quiet confidence amongst his own people coupled to a clear
vision to spread the spirit of self-determination and the heart of
servanthood, then I could certainly see Central and South Americas
suddenly moving where currency seeks to flow like a well contained
river, moving the goods of human Health-Education-Correction.

> > How do you think can new network currency overcome
>>geo-political rules and become non-governmental global currency?

I mentioned the idea of a well contained river in order to describe
healthy currency. The containement plays an important role in
governing the flow of the river's intensity and direction. So to
think of currency that is not governed is like thinking of a tsunami
of a hurricane or tornado. Governance and currency must be
harmonized, if we are to avoid the perpetual state of conflict as the
rule of currency.
So instead of thinking in terms of a "NEW local currency", we need to
think in terms of "RENEWAL", meaning, we take it where we find it and
we progress from there. On the long term, when families are healthy,
educated and self-correcting, then progress feeds the regenerating of
all involved, generation after generation.
The difficulty has always been and will always be in aggreeing as to
what progress really is and what direction to take to get there.
So instead of thinking in terms of overcoming geo-political rules, I
think that the market place is the ideal tool to adjust the trends and
to adapt with the vision of local-global cultivation of trusted
connections needed for currency to flow smoothly with the renewal of
inspiration and the regeneration of healthy communities.

The irony is that now that we have the speed of efficiency at our
disposal to reach the agreement, we cant find how to let the river
take its course into the direction of wellbeing because the demands
are pulling in the opposite direction.
How do we change the general direction of self-governance from self-
destrution to self-control and community self-government?

That is what the evolution of the association between the Legal
Tender, The Rule of Law and the Market Place seek to answer.
Democracy is where evolution is stuck and where the bulging questions
of power are getting to be in urgent need of renewal and
regeneration.

I hope that people like Chavez and Fidel Castro can put a human face
that can inspire and not generate more of what we dont need.

Benoit
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Nikolay Kryachkov

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Dec 27, 2007, 1:22:06 PM12/27/07
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>>>If we can generate and manifest the demonstration of such an E-
>>>currency, then we will have a genuine offer to the local-global
>>>progress of decision-makers who cannot affort speculations that
>>>jeoperdise The Rule of Law Legal Tender's equation.

Do you mean debt = sin as a rule and who are WE?

On 27 дек, 13:54, Benoit <ben...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 27, 1:31 am, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
>
> > I meant any local leader elsewhere.
>
> > Nikolay
>
> History seems to demonstrate that currency does not need single local
> leaders but rather, it needs the transparent lead of inspiration and
> of progressive innovation that gains the people's trust and
> engagement.

History demonstrates the transparent lead in currency issue? Can you
give an example?


> Of course, voices are heard and ideas get to be materialised by some
> individuals, but in order to serve the wellbeing of currency, then
> these individuals must themselves be followers of the lead that
> generates the high trust.
> Otherwise, we end up with dictatorships of the kind that never provide
> peace to its own people.

Usualy the leaders and their doings are seen.

>
> > On 27 дек, 11:29, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:>
>
> > > Do you think Chavez (or any other local leader) creates a trusted connections in Latin America and therefore a new Legal Tender is possible there?
>
> Trusted connection is the key to currency and it is the basis for the
> Legal Tender to remain tender.
> If those like Chavez and the rest who feel the need for change could
> raise such quiet confidence amongst his own people coupled to a clear
> vision to spread the spirit of self-determination and the heart of
> servanthood, then I could certainly see Central and South Americas
> suddenly moving where currency seeks to flow like a well contained
> river, moving the goods of human Health-Education-Correction.
>
> > > How do you think can new network currency overcome
> >>geo-political rules and become non-governmental global currency?
>
> I mentioned the idea of a well contained river in order to describe
> healthy currency.  The containement plays an important role in
> governing the flow of the river's intensity and direction.  So to
> think of currency that is not governed is like thinking of a tsunami
> of a hurricane or tornado.  Governance and currency must be
> harmonized, if we are to avoid the perpetual state of conflict as the
> rule of currency.

No, I mentioned non-governmental currency, not absence of governance.
Are you antiglobalist?

> So instead of thinking in terms of a "NEW  local currency", we need to
> think in terms of "RENEWAL", meaning, we take it where we find it and
> we progress from there.  On the long term, when families are healthy,
> educated and self-correcting, then progress feeds the regenerating of
> all involved, generation after generation.
> The difficulty has always been and will always be in aggreeing as to
> what progress really is and what direction to take to get there.
> So instead of thinking in terms of overcoming geo-political rules, I
> think that the market place is the ideal tool to adjust the trends and
> to adapt with the vision of local-global cultivation of trusted
> connections needed for currency to flow smoothly with the renewal of
> inspiration and the regeneration of healthy communities.

Yes, marketplace with some limitations. Are there any signs of
renewal? If there are the evidences of wrong directions, why not go
there?

>
> The irony is that now that we have the speed of efficiency at our
> disposal to reach the agreement, we cant find how to let the river
> take its course into the direction of wellbeing because the demands
> are pulling in the opposite direction.
> How do we change the general direction of self-governance from self-
> destrution to self-control and community self-government?
>
> That is what the evolution of the association between the Legal
> Tender, The Rule of Law and the Market Place seek to answer.
> Democracy is where evolution is stuck and where the bulging questions
> of power are getting to be in urgent need of renewal and
> regeneration.
>
> I hope that people like Chavez and Fidel Castro can put a human face
> that can inspire and not generate more of what we dont need.

Everything is being cognized in comparison. Nikolay

Nikolay Kryachkov

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Dec 27, 2007, 1:32:45 PM12/27/07
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Yes, marketplace with some limitations. Are there any signs of
renewal? If there are the evidences of wrong directions, why not go
there?

I meant - not to go wrong directions.
Oh my poor English - when we can talk Russian? :)

Nikolay
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