[mailto:KnowledgePersons@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nikolay Kryachkov Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:02 PM To: KnowledgePersons Subject: [Knowledge Persons] Re: The The Global Natural Money Board
- Rice export for exporters' national currency;
- export decisions are connected with internal needs of exporters,
especially to support internal consumption of rice
and in parallel
- creation of rice money.
All depends on details. So many human lives depend on rice. They must
be supported.
As far as I know 28 000 000 persons in the US have governmental food
support. And it contradicts 'free market' concept.
Nikolay
On May 5, 1:06 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> [mailto:KnowledgePersons@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nikolay Kryachkov
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:02 PM
> To: KnowledgePersons
> Subject: [Knowledge Persons] Re: The The Global Natural Money Board
> - Rice export for exporters' national currency;
> - export decisions are connected with internal needs of exporters,
> especially to support internal consumption of rice
> and in parallel
> - creation of rice money.
> All depends on details. So many human lives depend on rice. They must
> be supported.
> As far as I know 28 000 000 persons in the US have governmental food
> support. And it contradicts 'free market' concept.
> Nikolay
> On May 5, 1:06 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > [mailto:KnowledgePersons@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nikolay Kryachkov
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:02 PM
> > To: KnowledgePersons
> > Subject: [Knowledge Persons] Re: The The Global Natural Money Board
Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements. Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur transaction costs.
US - many times preach open market and don’t follow it themselves. Now they are saying the price rise in foodgrains is due to Indians eating more, when an average American eats 5 times more than an average Indian. They have no probs if we drink more coke or if we eat more burgers, but they are not happy if we eat more rice.
[mailto:KnowledgePersons@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nikolay Kryachkov Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:37 PM To: KnowledgePersons Subject: [Knowledge Persons] Re: The The Global Natural Money Board - Rice export for exporters' national currency; - export decisions are connected with internal needs of exporters, especially to support internal consumption of rice
and in parallel
- creation of rice money.
All depends on details. So many human lives depend on rice. They must be supported.
As far as I know 28 000 000 persons in the US have governmental food support. And it contradicts 'free market' concept.
Nikolay
On May 5, 1:06 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > What else can be done?
> [mailto:KnowledgePersons@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nikolay Kryachkov > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:02 PM > To: KnowledgePersons > Subject: [Knowledge Persons] Re: The The Global Natural Money Board
> Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> transaction costs.
And what? As I said before - all depends on details. Not to import
inflation is the main problem (I don't mean IMF-style solutions here).
If my understanding is correct, the purpose of the mentioned rice
cartel is to govern the connection "rice - external goods & services
needed" to balance the national interests of the exporters and
importers. Various solutions can be:
But I suppose true free market in sense of rice money (similar to oil
& gas money http://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2007/04/oil-gas-money.html ) without usury is not bad concept to parallel development and avoid
accusation who eat what and how much.
Rice produces emit liquid rice money to get goods & services needed in
exchange. No banks here, but a kind of social business network with
some project management and transaction features.
Can we see the persons here who are solving rice problem?
Nikolay
On May 5, 5:03 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> transaction costs.
> US - many times preach open market and don’t follow it themselves. Now they
> are saying the price rise in foodgrains is due to Indians eating more, when
> an average American eats 5 times more than an average Indian. They have no
> probs if we drink more coke or if we eat more burgers, but they are not
> happy if we eat more rice.
> [mailto:KnowledgePersons@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nikolay Kryachkov
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:37 PM
> To: KnowledgePersons
> Subject: [Knowledge Persons] Re: The The Global Natural Money Board
> - Rice export for exporters' national currency;
> - export decisions are connected with internal needs of exporters,
> especially to support internal consumption of rice
> and in parallel
> - creation of rice money.
> All depends on details. So many human lives depend on rice. They must
> be supported.
> As far as I know 28 000 000 persons in the US have governmental food
> support. And it contradicts 'free market' concept.
> Nikolay
> On May 5, 1:06 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > What else can be done?
> > [mailto:KnowledgePersons@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nikolay Kryachkov
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:02 PM
> > To: KnowledgePersons
> > Subject: [Knowledge Persons] Re: The The Global Natural Money Board
> > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > transaction costs.
> And what? As I said before - all depends on details. Not to import
> inflation is the main problem (I don't mean IMF-style solutions here).
> If my understanding is correct, the purpose of the mentioned rice
> cartel is to govern the connection "rice - external goods & services
> needed" to balance the national interests of the exporters and
> importers. Various solutions can be:
> But I suppose true free market in sense of rice money (similar to oil
> & gas moneyhttp://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2007/04/oil-gas-money.html > ) without usury is not bad concept to parallel development and avoid
> accusation who eat what and how much.
> Rice produces emit liquid rice money to get goods & services needed in
> exchange. No banks here, but a kind of social business network with
> some project management and transaction features.
> Can we see the persons here who are solving rice problem?
> Nikolay
> On May 5, 5:03 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > transaction costs.
> > US - many times preach open market and don’t follow it themselves. Now they
> > are saying the price rise in foodgrains is due to Indians eating more, when
> > an average American eats 5 times more than an average Indian. They have no
> > probs if we drink more coke or if we eat more burgers, but they are not
> > happy if we eat more rice.
> > [mailto:KnowledgePersons@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nikolay Kryachkov
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:37 PM
> > To: KnowledgePersons
> > Subject: [Knowledge Persons] Re: The The Global Natural Money Board
> > - Rice export for exporters' national currency;
> > - export decisions are connected with internal needs of exporters,
> > especially to support internal consumption of rice
> > and in parallel
> > - creation of rice money.
> > All depends on details. So many human lives depend on rice. They must
> > be supported.
> > As far as I know 28 000 000 persons in the US have governmental food
> > support. And it contradicts 'free market' concept.
> > Nikolay
> > On May 5, 1:06 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > What else can be done?
> > > [mailto:KnowledgePersons@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nikolay Kryachkov
> > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:02 PM
> > > To: KnowledgePersons
> > > Subject: [Knowledge Persons] Re: The The Global Natural Money Board
> On May 5, 8:16 pm, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> > > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > > transaction costs.
> > And what? As I said before - all depends on details. Not to import
> > inflation is the main problem (I don't mean IMF-style solutions here).
> > If my understanding is correct, the purpose of the mentioned rice
> > cartel is to govern the connection "rice - external goods & services
> > needed" to balance the national interests of the exporters and
> > importers. Various solutions can be:
> > But I suppose true free market in sense of rice money (similar to oil
> > & gas moneyhttp://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2007/04/oil-gas-money.html > > ) without usury is not bad concept to parallel development and avoid
> > accusation who eat what and how much.
> > Rice produces emit liquid rice money to get goods & services needed in
> > exchange. No banks here, but a kind of social business network with
> > some project management and transaction features.
> > Can we see the persons here who are solving rice problem?
> > Nikolay
> > On May 5, 5:03 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > > transaction costs.
> > > US - many times preach open market and don’t follow it themselves. Now they
> > > are saying the price rise in foodgrains is due to Indians eating more, when
> > > an average American eats 5 times more than an average Indian. They have no
> > > probs if we drink more coke or if we eat more burgers, but they are not
> > > happy if we eat more rice.
> > > [mailto:KnowledgePersons@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nikolay Kryachkov
> > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:37 PM
> > > To: KnowledgePersons
> > > Subject: [Knowledge Persons] Re: The The Global Natural Money Board
> > > - Rice export for exporters' national currency;
> > > - export decisions are connected with internal needs of exporters,
> > > especially to support internal consumption of rice
> > > and in parallel
> > > - creation of rice money.
> > > All depends on details. So many human lives depend on rice. They must
> > > be supported.
> > > As far as I know 28 000 000 persons in the US have governmental food
> > > support. And it contradicts 'free market' concept.
> > > Nikolay
> > > On May 5, 1:06 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > What else can be done?
> > On May 5, 8:16 pm, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> > > > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > > > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > > > transaction costs.
> > > And what? As I said before - all depends on details. Not to import
> > > inflation is the main problem (I don't mean IMF-style solutions here).
> > > If my understanding is correct, the purpose of the mentioned rice
> > > cartel is to govern the connection "rice - external goods & services
> > > needed" to balance the national interests of the exporters and
> > > importers. Various solutions can be:
> > > But I suppose true free market in sense of rice money (similar to oil
> > > & gas moneyhttp://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2007/04/oil-gas-money.html > > > ) without usury is not bad concept to parallel development and avoid
> > > accusation who eat what and how much.
> > > Rice produces emit liquid rice money to get goods & services needed in
> > > exchange. No banks here, but a kind of social business network with
> > > some project management and transaction features.
> > > Can we see the persons here who are solving rice problem?
> > > Nikolay
> > > On May 5, 5:03 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > > > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > > > transaction costs.
> > > > US - many times preach open market and don’t follow it themselves. Now they
> > > > are saying the price rise in foodgrains is due to Indians eating more, when
> > > > an average American eats 5 times more than an average Indian. They have no
> > > > probs if we drink more coke or if we eat more burgers, but they are not
> > > > happy if we eat more rice.
> > > > [mailto:KnowledgePersons@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nikolay Kryachkov
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:37 PM
> > > > To: KnowledgePersons
> > > > Subject: [Knowledge Persons] Re: The The Global Natural Money Board
> > > > - Rice export for exporters' national currency;
> > > > - export decisions are connected with internal needs of exporters,
> > > > especially to support internal consumption of rice
> > > > and in parallel
> > > > - creation of rice money.
> > > > All depends on details. So many human lives depend on rice. They must
> > > > be supported.
> > > > As far as I know 28 000 000 persons in the US have governmental food
> > > > support. And it contradicts 'free market' concept.
> > > > Nikolay
> > > > On May 5, 1:06 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > What else can be done?
> > > On May 5, 8:16 pm, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> > > > > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > > > > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > > > > transaction costs.
> > > > And what? As I said before - all depends on details. Not to import
> > > > inflation is the main problem (I don't mean IMF-style solutions here).
> > > > If my understanding is correct, the purpose of the mentioned rice
> > > > cartel is to govern the connection "rice - external goods & services
> > > > needed" to balance the national interests of the exporters and
> > > > importers. Various solutions can be:
> > > > including direct state plannig and control.
> > > > But I suppose true free market in sense of rice money (similar to oil
> > > > & gas moneyhttp://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2007/04/oil-gas-money.html > > > > ) without usury is not bad concept to parallel development and avoid
> > > > accusation who eat what and how much.
> > > > Rice produces emit liquid rice money to get goods & services needed in
> > > > exchange. No banks here, but a kind of social business network with
> > > > some project management and transaction features.
> > > > Can we see the persons here who are solving rice problem?
> > > > Nikolay
> > > > On May 5, 5:03 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > > > > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > > > > transaction costs.
> > > > > US - many times preach open market and don’t follow it themselves. Now they
> > > > > are saying the price rise in foodgrains is due to Indians eating more, when
> > > > > an average American eats 5 times more than an average Indian. They have no
> > > > > probs if we drink more coke or if we eat more burgers, but they are not
> > > > > happy if we eat more rice.
> > > > > [mailto:KnowledgePersons@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nikolay Kryachkov
> > > > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:37 PM
> > > > > To: KnowledgePersons
> > > > > Subject: [Knowledge Persons] Re: The The Global Natural Money Board
> > > > > - Rice export for exporters' national currency;
> > > > > - export decisions are connected with internal needs of exporters,
> > > > > especially to support internal consumption of rice
> > > > > and in parallel
> > > > > - creation of rice money.
> > > > > All depends on details. So many human lives depend on rice. They must
> > > > > be supported.
> > > > > As far as I know 28 000 000 persons in the US have governmental food
> > > > > support. And it contradicts 'free market' concept.
> > > > > Nikolay
> > > > > On May 5, 1:06 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > What else can be done?
> > > > On May 5, 8:16 pm, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> > > > > > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > > > > > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > > > > > transaction costs.
> > > > > And what? As I said before - all depends on details. Not to import
> > > > > inflation is the main problem (I don't mean IMF-style solutions here).
> > > > > If my understanding is correct, the purpose of the mentioned rice
> > > > > cartel is to govern the connection "rice - external goods & services
> > > > > needed" to balance the national interests of the exporters and
> > > > > importers. Various solutions can be:
> > > > > including direct state plannig and control.
> > > > > But I suppose true free market in sense of rice money (similar to oil
> > > > > & gas moneyhttp://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2007/04/oil-gas-money.html > > > > > ) without usury is not bad concept to parallel development and avoid
> > > > > accusation who eat what and how much.
> > > > > Rice produces emit liquid rice money to get goods & services needed in
> > > > > exchange. No banks here, but a kind of social business network with
> > > > > some project management and transaction features.
> > > > > Can we see the persons here who are solving rice problem?
> > > > > Nikolay
> > > > > On May 5, 5:03 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > > > > > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > > > > > transaction costs.
> > > > > > US - many times preach open market and don’t follow it themselves. Now they
> > > > > > are saying the price rise in foodgrains is due to Indians eating more, when
> > > > > > an average American eats 5 times more than an average Indian. They have no
> > > > > > probs if we drink more coke or if we eat more burgers, but they are not
> > > > > > happy if we eat more rice.
> > > > > > > "The Asian Development Bank on Saturday announced emergency funding to
> > > > > > > help poor countries struggling with rice prices".
> > > > > > > Is this really help?
> > > > > > > Nikolay
> > > > > > > On May 4, 11:48 pm, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > can you add your thoughts about possibilities or impossibilities to
> > > > > > > > form in the future the The Global Natural Money Board?
"Alternative/vegetable fuels was known many years ago. But their total
costs and impact on global agriculture aren't clear. There is a risk
for so-called developing countries to plant energy instead of food. I
suppose that alternative power engineering must be home based
(distributed), not industrial (centralized) to avoid risks of hunger
escalation".
"I was speaking about the situation like this: imagine bought fields
where plant-growing for energy purposes is outsourced from the
developed industrial countries. This purpose may compete with the
local needs in food.
I said about distributed (home based) approaches before. They are must
be!
The question is - what will be faster - an impact of industries or
growth of nature friendly alternatives? And which way is being
supported by bankers?"
> > > > > On May 5, 8:16 pm, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> > > > > > > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > > > > > > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > > > > > > transaction costs.
> > > > > > And what? As I said before - all depends on details. Not to import
> > > > > > inflation is the main problem (I don't mean IMF-style solutions here).
> > > > > > If my understanding is correct, the purpose of the mentioned rice
> > > > > > cartel is to govern the connection "rice - external goods & services
> > > > > > needed" to balance the national interests of the exporters and
> > > > > > importers. Various solutions can be:
> > > > > > including direct state plannig and control.
> > > > > > But I suppose true free market in sense of rice money (similar to oil
> > > > > > & gas moneyhttp://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2007/04/oil-gas-money.html > > > > > > ) without usury is not bad concept to parallel development and avoid
> > > > > > accusation who eat what and how much.
> > > > > > Rice produces emit liquid rice money to get goods & services needed in
> > > > > > exchange. No banks here, but a kind of social business network with
> > > > > > some project management and transaction features.
> > > > > > Can we see the persons here who are solving rice problem?
> > > > > > Nikolay
> > > > > > On May 5, 5:03 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > > > > > > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > > > > > > transaction costs.
> > > > > > > US - many times preach open market and don’t follow it themselves. Now they
> > > > > > > are saying the price rise in foodgrains is due to Indians eating more, when
> > > > > > > an average American eats 5 times more than an average Indian. They have no
> > > > > > > probs if we drink more coke or if we eat more burgers, but they are not
> > > > > > > happy if we eat more rice.
> > > > > > > > "The Asian Development Bank on Saturday announced emergency funding to
> > > > > > > > help poor countries struggling with rice prices".
> > > > > > > > Is this really help?
> > > > > > > > Nikolay
> > > > > > > > On May 4, 11:48 pm, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > can you add your thoughts about possibilities or impossibilities to
> > > > > > > > > form in the future the The Global Natural Money Board?
> "Alternative/vegetable fuels was known many years ago. But their total
> costs and impact on global agriculture aren't clear. There is a risk
> for so-called developing countries to plant energy instead of food. I
> suppose that alternative power engineering must be home based
> (distributed), not industrial (centralized) to avoid risks of hunger
> escalation".
> "I was speaking about the situation like this: imagine bought fields
> where plant-growing for energy purposes is outsourced from the
> developed industrial countries. This purpose may compete with the
> local needs in food.
> I said about distributed (home based) approaches before. They are must
> be!
> The question is - what will be faster - an impact of industries or
> growth of nature friendly alternatives? And which way is being
> supported by bankers?"
> > > > > > On May 5, 8:16 pm, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > > > > > > > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > > > > > > > transaction costs.
> > > > > > > And what? As I said before - all depends on details. Not to import
> > > > > > > inflation is the main problem (I don't mean IMF-style solutions here).
> > > > > > > If my understanding is correct, the purpose of the mentioned rice
> > > > > > > cartel is to govern the connection "rice - external goods & services
> > > > > > > needed" to balance the national interests of the exporters and
> > > > > > > importers. Various solutions can be:
> > > > > > > including direct state plannig and control.
> > > > > > > But I suppose true free market in sense of rice money (similar to oil
> > > > > > > & gas moneyhttp://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2007/04/oil-gas-money.html > > > > > > > ) without usury is not bad concept to parallel development and avoid
> > > > > > > accusation who eat what and how much.
> > > > > > > Rice produces emit liquid rice money to get goods & services needed in
> > > > > > > exchange. No banks here, but a kind of social business network with
> > > > > > > some project management and transaction features.
> > > > > > > Can we see the persons here who are solving rice problem?
> > > > > > > Nikolay
> > > > > > > On May 5, 5:03 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > > > > > > > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > > > > > > > transaction costs.
> > > > > > > > US - many times preach open market and don’t follow it themselves. Now they
> > > > > > > > are saying the price rise in foodgrains is due to Indians eating more, when
> > > > > > > > an average American eats 5 times more than an average Indian. They have no
> > > > > > > > probs if we drink more coke or if we eat more burgers, but they are not
> > > > > > > > happy if we eat more rice.
> > > > > > > > [mailto:KnowledgePersons@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nikolay Kryachkov
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:37 PM
> > > > > > > > To: KnowledgePersons
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Knowledge Persons] Re: The The Global Natural Money Board
> > > > > > > > - Rice export for exporters' national currency;
> > > > > > > > - export decisions are connected with internal needs of exporters,
> > > > > > > > especially to support internal consumption of rice
> > > > > > > > and in parallel
> > > > > > > > - creation of rice money.
> > > > > > > > All depends on details. So many human lives depend on rice. They must
> > > > > > > > be supported.
> > > > > > > > As far as I know 28 000 000 persons in the US have governmental food
> > > > > > > > support. And it contradicts 'free market' concept.
> > > > > > > > Nikolay
> > > > > > > > On May 5, 1:06 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > What else can be done?
> > > > > > > > > "The Asian Development Bank on Saturday announced emergency funding to
> > > > > > > > > help poor countries struggling with rice prices".
> > > > > > > > > Is this really help?
> > > > > > > > > Nikolay
> > > > > > > > > On May 4, 11:48 pm, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > can you add your thoughts about possibilities or impossibilities to
> > > > > > > > > > form in the future the The Global Natural Money Board?
"Leaders of Asian economies should start positive talk about such
cartel. Oil reserves have some limit beyond which the oil field are
going to be dark field but there is nothing like reserves in case of
rice and applying some modern techniques, keeping the fertility of
land intact one can harvest rice year-by-year to an imaginative number
of years.
In such a situation, rice cartel will be stronger than oil cartel and
it is bound to bring prosperity in the laggard Asian region. If the
thought is materialised, the next decade will be of rice exporting
countries and that too of Asian countries only. If west has accepted
oil cartel like OPEC, sooner or latter they will also accept rice
cartel OREC".
> On May 8, 10:31 am, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> > Do you remember (?):
> > "Alternative/vegetable fuels was known many years ago. But their total
> > costs and impact on global agriculture aren't clear. There is a risk
> > for so-called developing countries to plant energy instead of food. I
> > suppose that alternative power engineering must be home based
> > (distributed), not industrial (centralized) to avoid risks of hunger
> > escalation".
> > "I was speaking about the situation like this: imagine bought fields
> > where plant-growing for energy purposes is outsourced from the
> > developed industrial countries. This purpose may compete with the
> > local needs in food.
> > I said about distributed (home based) approaches before. They are must
> > be!
> > The question is - what will be faster - an impact of industries or
> > growth of nature friendly alternatives? And which way is being
> > supported by bankers?"
> > > > > > > On May 5, 8:16 pm, Nikolay Kryachkov <nk...@mail.ru> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > > > > > > > > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > > > > > > > > transaction costs.
> > > > > > > > And what? As I said before - all depends on details. Not to import
> > > > > > > > inflation is the main problem (I don't mean IMF-style solutions here).
> > > > > > > > If my understanding is correct, the purpose of the mentioned rice
> > > > > > > > cartel is to govern the connection "rice - external goods & services
> > > > > > > > needed" to balance the national interests of the exporters and
> > > > > > > > importers. Various solutions can be:
> > > > > > > > including direct state plannig and control.
> > > > > > > > But I suppose true free market in sense of rice money (similar to oil
> > > > > > > > & gas moneyhttp://knowledgeperson.blogspot.com/2007/04/oil-gas-money.html > > > > > > > > ) without usury is not bad concept to parallel development and avoid
> > > > > > > > accusation who eat what and how much.
> > > > > > > > Rice produces emit liquid rice money to get goods & services needed in
> > > > > > > > exchange. No banks here, but a kind of social business network with
> > > > > > > > some project management and transaction features.
> > > > > > > > Can we see the persons here who are solving rice problem?
> > > > > > > > Nikolay
> > > > > > > > On May 5, 5:03 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Exports in exporter's currency helps only when there are broader agreements.
> > > > > > > > > Otherwise the importing country has to buy the exporter's currency and incur
> > > > > > > > > transaction costs.
> > > > > > > > > US - many times preach open market and don’t follow it themselves. Now they
> > > > > > > > > are saying the price rise in foodgrains is due to Indians eating more, when
> > > > > > > > > an average American eats 5 times more than an average Indian. They have no
> > > > > > > > > probs if we drink more coke or if we eat more burgers, but they are not
> > > > > > > > > happy if we eat more rice.
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:KnowledgePersons@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nikolay Kryachkov
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:37 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: KnowledgePersons
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Knowledge Persons] Re: The The Global Natural Money Board
> > > > > > > > > - Rice export for exporters' national currency;
> > > > > > > > > - export decisions are connected with internal needs of exporters,
> > > > > > > > > especially to support internal consumption of rice
> > > > > > > > > and in parallel
> > > > > > > > > - creation of rice money.
> > > > > > > > > All depends on details. So many human lives depend on rice. They must
> > > > > > > > > be supported.
> > > > > > > > > As far as I know 28 000 000 persons in the US have governmental food
> > > > > > > > > support. And it contradicts 'free market' concept.
> > > > > > > > > Nikolay
> > > > > > > > > On May 5, 1:06 pm, "Rajendra Aphale" <rajaph...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > What else can be done?
> > > > > > > > > > "The Asian Development Bank on Saturday announced emergency funding to
> > > > > > > > > > help poor countries struggling with rice prices".
> > > > > > > > > > > can you add your thoughts about possibilities or impossibilities to
> > > > > > > > > > > form in the future the The Global Natural Money Board?
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