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  <title type="text">Isaiah B Google Group</title>
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  A moderated forum conceived in the spirit of Isaiah Berlin. The focus is on Jewish secular concerns, particularly politics and culture.
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  <updated>2005-04-21T22:03:39Z</updated>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Norman Miller</name>
  <email>nm1...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2005-04-21T22:03:39Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/771f88a4f1d15a1e/3e1093173dac186e?show_docid=3e1093173dac186e</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/771f88a4f1d15a1e/3e1093173dac186e?show_docid=3e1093173dac186e"/>
  <title type="text">The campaign against Columbia continues</title>
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  Campus Watch has just released a bulletin &lt;br&gt; (&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/1970&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;) claiming that &lt;br&gt; Columbia&#39;s Middle East Institute &amp;quot;sent out invititations&amp;quot; to an event &lt;br&gt; honoring Amir Baraka, &lt;br&gt; a well-known antisemite. Invitations are normally assumed to be sent by &lt;br&gt; sponsors, and so it is implied here that the Middle East Institute
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Norman Miller</name>
  <email>nm1...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2005-04-06T19:20:50Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/253a714c19b0c8fc/31c4e2f9bde5da20?show_docid=31c4e2f9bde5da20</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/253a714c19b0c8fc/31c4e2f9bde5da20?show_docid=31c4e2f9bde5da20"/>
  <title type="text">Saul Bellow o&quot;h</title>
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  Saul Bellow was in no sense whatever a Jewish pope but I suspect that his &lt;br&gt; death is felt in a special way by every Jew who reads. This is doubly &lt;br&gt; interesting because Bellow famously didn&#39;t want to be thought of as a &lt;br&gt; Jewish writer. But what constitutes that &amp;quot;special way&amp;quot;? In my own case &lt;br&gt; it&#39;s partly because Moses Herzog, perhaps even more than Malamud&#39;s Arthur
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Norman Miller</name>
  <email>nm1...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2005-03-20T21:43:53Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/d000129754cf110a/ddc2d3d2cba831b7?show_docid=ddc2d3d2cba831b7</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/d000129754cf110a/ddc2d3d2cba831b7?show_docid=ddc2d3d2cba831b7"/>
  <title type="text">The Peace Prize</title>
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  I note that Thomas Friedman of the Times wants to give the Nobel Peace &lt;br&gt; Prize to Ayatollah Sistani for bringing about the possibility of a peaceful &lt;br&gt; society in Iraq. Maybe so. Certainly, our feelings about Bush&#39;s war to &lt;br&gt; one side, we all hope for such an outcome. But we&#39;re still very far from
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Leonard Prager</name>
  <email>lpra...@research.haifa.ac.il</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2005-03-12T21:04:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/0182b20424931445/3ac3f2c6d9c6cd60?show_docid=3ac3f2c6d9c6cd60</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/0182b20424931445/3ac3f2c6d9c6cd60?show_docid=3ac3f2c6d9c6cd60"/>
  <title type="text">verbal violence in Israel</title>
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  I have been thinking a lot about the alarming level of verbal violence in Israel. Nehemia Strasler wrote very pointedly on this subject in his recent HaAretz piece (the URL of the English version is &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArtVty.jhtml?sw=HaRav+Yosef&amp;itemNo=550816&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;) and I thought I would bring it to the attention of &amp;quot;Isaiah Forum&amp;quot; readers. The poisonous talk has come from the right (see Strasler&#39;s article) and the left. Not too long ago Jews started calling other Jews &amp;quot;Nazis&amp;quot; -- a contemptible comparison, no less a light than Leibovitz inventing &amp;quot;Judo-Nazi&amp;quot;. These malice-packed names are in the courts now with all kinds of people suing one another. My general position is let them all rave unless there is proven incitement to real violence -- but there may be holes in that stance in specific instances. Legal minds need to go to work here.
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  <author>
  <email>nm1...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2005-03-08T20:28:50Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/e4a110a702679eb0/8478ec91281615c0?show_docid=8478ec91281615c0</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/e4a110a702679eb0/8478ec91281615c0?show_docid=8478ec91281615c0"/>
  <title type="text">Re: By way of introduction</title>
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  It might be helpful to explain how one can reply to posts or write on &lt;br&gt; fresh topics. &lt;br&gt; Assuming that you&#39;re reading this on a mail client (Outlook Express, &lt;br&gt; etc.), you can reply or comment as you normally reply to email. &lt;br&gt; To write something to the group, the address is &lt;br&gt; isaiah-b@googlegroups.com &lt;br&gt; Of course, you can do either of these on Isaiah-B&#39;s web page as well.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Norman Miller</name>
  <email>nm1...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2005-03-08T17:56:51Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/115ee804ec15b70f/f4c6a0e287c02e4a?show_docid=f4c6a0e287c02e4a</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/115ee804ec15b70f/f4c6a0e287c02e4a?show_docid=f4c6a0e287c02e4a"/>
  <title type="text">A splintered right?</title>
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  Talking of holocaust-denying, the Zionist Organization of America is &lt;br&gt; running a fiery denunciation of Mahmoud Abbas by its president, Morton &lt;br&gt; Klein and Neil Sher. &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.zoa.org/oped/oped20050304a.htm&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;The real aim of the article is to disparage any sort of rapprochement &lt;br&gt; between the Sharon government and that of the PLO. But it&#39;s also clear
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Robert Berkovitz</name>
  <email>rb.br...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2005-03-07T22:57:26Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/227cb1ba09e8be05/02ba65480c2ef776?show_docid=02ba65480c2ef776</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/227cb1ba09e8be05/02ba65480c2ef776?show_docid=02ba65480c2ef776"/>
  <title type="text">Re: An Accidental Revisionist?</title>
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  I intended to post a few observations about the topic raised by Antin &lt;br&gt; (the decision not to bomb Auschwitz), not to review all its aspects. &lt;br&gt; Citing the McCloy letter was not done to &amp;quot;leave the last word to &lt;br&gt; McCloy,&amp;quot; but to point readers to a location where various documents on &lt;br&gt; the subject can be found, including McCloy&#39;s official explanation. I
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Eleanor Antin</name>
  <email>ean...@ucsd.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2005-03-07T17:58:21Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/227cb1ba09e8be05/e85b4fd94db485e8?show_docid=e85b4fd94db485e8</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/227cb1ba09e8be05/e85b4fd94db485e8?show_docid=e85b4fd94db485e8"/>
  <title type="text">Re: An Accidental Revisionist?</title>
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  John McCloy&#39;s icy letter was extremely interesting bull shit &lt;br&gt; considering that by 1944 the allies had control of the air over &lt;br&gt; Germany, with anti aircraft guns being the only real threat. Indeed, &lt;br&gt; he appears to be annoyed that he is &amp;quot;being pressed from other &lt;br&gt; quarters&amp;quot; to bomb the camps, while congratulating Mr. Pehle of the
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Robert Berkovitz</name>
  <email>rb.br...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2005-03-07T15:38:16Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/227cb1ba09e8be05/a7f59682e0724aee?show_docid=a7f59682e0724aee</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/227cb1ba09e8be05/a7f59682e0724aee?show_docid=a7f59682e0724aee"/>
  <title type="text">Re: An Accidental Revisionist?</title>
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  I was interested to see that despite your admonition (&amp;quot;...you can&#39;t &lt;br&gt; comment&amp;quot;), you were able to make a number of relevant and provocative &lt;br&gt; comments on my posting before introducing another question, i.e., why &lt;br&gt; were Auschwitz and the railroad tracks leading to it not bombed? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Perhaps others will react to my posting with comments on reflex
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Eleanor Antin</name>
  <email>ean...@ucsd.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2005-03-07T01:23:11Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/227cb1ba09e8be05/108da79e60ce277b?show_docid=108da79e60ce277b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/227cb1ba09e8be05/108da79e60ce277b?show_docid=108da79e60ce277b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: An Accidental Revisionist?</title>
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  Hey Robert Berkovitz, get real! you can&#39;t comment on what somebody &lt;br&gt; said from disconnected comments in the press, especially from a right &lt;br&gt; wing paper with an axe to grind, and subsequently from a bunch of &lt;br&gt; hysterical people trying to be important. With friends like Paul &lt;br&gt; Speigel, who needs enemies? Before the Germans would even admit
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Robert Berkovitz</name>
  <email>rb.br...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2005-03-06T22:50:30Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/227cb1ba09e8be05/8199177232664630?show_docid=8199177232664630</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/227cb1ba09e8be05/8199177232664630?show_docid=8199177232664630"/>
  <title type="text">An Accidental Revisionist?</title>
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  Rolf Hochhuth is a German author, probably best known for his 1963 &lt;br&gt; play, &amp;quot;The Deputy.&amp;quot; In the play, Hochhuth proposes that Pope Pius &lt;br&gt; XII, by barely protesting the extermination of Jews by Nazi Germany, &lt;br&gt; was complicit in the holocaust. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;About two weeks ago, Hochhuth, now 74, was interviewed by a minor
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Norman Miller</name>
  <email>nm1...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2005-03-06T17:16:40Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/e4a110a702679eb0/5ef452e65295e487?show_docid=5ef452e65295e487</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/isaiah-b/browse_thread/thread/e4a110a702679eb0/5ef452e65295e487?show_docid=5ef452e65295e487"/>
  <title type="text">By way of introduction</title>
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  Thanks for joining Isaiah B. I hope we&#39;ll learn much from one another. &lt;br&gt; Given the state of affairs out there, by definition never good, and our &lt;br&gt; normal Jewish contentiousness we will surely have enough to keep our &lt;br&gt; juices flowing. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Where many lists have elaborate ground rules, I&#39;d like to begin with a
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