Gori 2-blade vs Gori 3-blade

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Tony M

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Mar 11, 2017, 2:56:50 PM3/11/17
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Planning to replace my fixed 3-blade prop with a folding prop.  I'm likely to go with Gori, and wonder under what circumstances I should want to spend so much more for the 3-blade prop ($4,000) vs the 2-blade prop ($1,200).

We sail Sheba (Nonsuch 30C, #212) out of Nyack, NY on the Hudson River.  I started racing regularly again in 2016 in the non-spinnaker PHRF fleet, and hope to improve my performance in 2017 (hence the quest for less propeller drag).   Most of my other sailing is daysailing and a couple short  cruises each season(2-3 days).  I tend to single-hand often, so efficiency in reverse is handy when docking and mooring alone.  I'd say 90% of my sailing is day-sailing and racing, with little motoring or motor-sailing (though when going long distances I do both).

Would be curious to know opinions of other Nonsuch sailors, especially those who have used Gori 2- or 3-blade folding props.   Also, in addition to difference in initial price, are there any significant differences between the two Gori props as far as trouble-free operation, maintenance, fouling, or durability?

Thanks for any opinions, guidance, or suggestions.

Tony Martin
Sheba, Nonsuch 30C #212
(Westerbeke 27hp)
Nyack Boat Club
Nyack, NY

Thor Powell Mariner's Cat V - 26C - North Channel

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Mar 11, 2017, 6:44:31 PM3/11/17
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Have a 2 blade on my 25 ..love it.  No issues at all.

Tony M

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Mar 11, 2017, 7:08:17 PM3/11/17
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Interesting 2008 article comparing different props for drag, and for performance under power, based on tank tests.  Includes all 3 Gori models (2-blade, 3-blade, racing 2-blade), plus other popular models like Flex-o-Fold, Variprop and Autoprop.


http://www.propelspecialisten.dk/download/segeln_magazine_test_2008.pdf

mark fagelman, MD

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Mar 11, 2017, 7:28:50 PM3/11/17
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I have a 3 blade flex-o-fold folder on my 33.
Minimal drag and great performance in fwd and reverse.

Look into it

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Robert & Diane Hindle

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Mar 12, 2017, 10:12:57 AM3/12/17
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When we purchased our 33, on board was an uninstalled Gori 2 blade. A call to the Gori dealer revealed that it was sold for a Nonsuch 33, with a 2003 Volvo rated 28HP@3200 rpm. My boat is a Universal and does not appear to have ever been modified.
Anyway, we have a Gori, seemingly in fine shape. The dealer (very preliminary) said the we might be able to change the blades but we’ll probably sell it.
Quite a mystery for us.


Bob Hindle
Haddam Neck CT
Jenny
1990 NS 33 #60

Mark Powers

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Mar 12, 2017, 12:33:19 PM3/12/17
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Tony,
PYI which sells Maxprops, says that the three blade prop will work better powering against waves and wind and will be smoother than a two blade prop. They do not 
provide any data on this. They do suggest that a Maxprop will provide an average  10 to 15% increase in sailing speed over a fixed prop. The effect is most noticeable in light air. 

I believe in the PHRF rules your rating will be changed when you go to a feathering or folding prop.

I do not have experience with the Gori prop so can't help out with your questions on that front. 

On line you can find a comparison test of props conducted by Yachting Monthly which is an interesting read. http://www.yachtingmonthly.com/gear/folding-and-feathering-propeller-test-29807

Following the publication of the test the makers of the Kiwi prop had a letter exchange in which the makers of the Kiwi prop criticized the test methodology. They felt that Flexofold had gained an unfair advantage by sending too big of a prop and that while it preformed well in the test the larger proper would potentially damage the engine if used long term. 



Mark Powers
La Reina 26C
Vancouver, B.C.

Joe Valinoti

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Mar 12, 2017, 1:44:18 PM3/12/17
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Bob: I might be interested in buying it. What is the shaft size. blade
size and pitch??



Joe

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Robert & Diane Hindle

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Mar 12, 2017, 2:00:25 PM3/12/17
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Looks like 3 centimeter shaft


Joe Valinoti

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Mar 12, 2017, 4:47:02 PM3/12/17
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Tony:  I replaced my 2 blade fixed with a Gori two blade and have never regretted it.  Not only was I about a knot faster under sail. but I pointed higher.  The 3 PHRF points I lost were well worth it.  Going to windward in a chop is not a problem nor did I experience it being harder backing. At 2800 RPM my W-27 gives me 6 knots in flat water.
Joe Valinoti
S/V IL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA

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Joe Valinoti

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Mar 12, 2017, 5:24:34 PM3/12/17
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Thanks, Bob, but the blades are too big for my eng/trans combo.  I currently have a 12” blade size but it’s getting old .  I had tried the 13” and it did not allow me full RPM.  I suspect the shaft size is actually 1” or 25.4 MM
 
Joe Valinoti
S/V IL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA


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