[HumJanenge-YG] Flash: DoPT : Apply for CICs Posts

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lokesh batra

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Oct 31, 2011, 11:57:21 AM10/31/11
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Flash : Apply for Central Information Commissioners  Post: DoPT Circular

31 October 2011

DoPT has issued a circular requesting applications for Central Information Commissioners appointment :
 
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"Persons fulfilling the criteria for appointment as Information Commissioner and interested for appointment to the post may send their particulars in the enclosed proforma by post to Under Secretary (IR), Department of Personnel and Training, North Block, New Delhi or  through e-mail to usrti...@nic.in   by November 18, 2011. Persons who are serving under the State/Central Government or any other  organization, may send their particulars through proper channel."
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Full text of the circular can be read on LINK below :
 
 
http://circulars.nic.in/WriteReadData/CircularPortal/D2/D02nic/ic.pdf
 
 
My take :
 
Government needs to be congratulated for making process of selection of Information Commissioner open to public.
 
This has been long standing demand of RTI Activists.
 
The big question is ... will  the entire process of selection become transparent?
 
I recommend those who desire to apply for the post to send their application by Speed Post in addition to sending it by email. The movement of Speed Post letter can be tracked on Dept of Posts website. 
 
Remember on 10 Dec 2010, DoPT had issued a circular seeking public comments on proposed amendment to RTI
Rules by email...
 
After sending my comments I had followed it with an RTI seeking file details on which public views were being processed and had asked for attested hard copy of my comments sent by email. DoPT had not diariesd public comments in any file and could not show me the so called folder in which public comments placed as claimed by CPIO (DoPT).
 
When ever I checked with DoPT CPIO, I was told the said folder containing Public Comments "NOT TRACEBLE". The file on which the amendment to RTI rules was delibrated in DoPT had only NAC's comments.
 
Media story on my RTI can be read on the link below.
 
http://www.governancenow.com/gov-next/rti/draft-rti-rules-no-mechanism-track-public-feedback
 
 
Good Luck to candidates.
 
Best
{Commodore Lokesh Batra (Retd.)}
Social & RTI Activist
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manoj

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Oct 31, 2011, 2:13:30 PM10/31/11
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Dear Sh.Batra ji and list,

This time , we should support karira ji as the first choice among
future ICs' as he has posted more than 27000 messages in his website
besides participating in other websites.His contribution seems to be
deserving for IC.We should discuss this issue as time is very short to
reach to conclusion.

with regards
manoj kamra


shOn Oct 31, 8:57 pm, lokesh batra <batra_lok...@yahoo.com> wrot
> Flash : Apply for Central Information Commissioners  Post: DoPT Circular
>
> 31 October 2011
>
> DoPT has issued a circular requesting applications for Central Information Commissioners appointment :
>  
> Quote
>
> "Persons fulfilling the criteria for appointment as Information Commissioner and interested for appointment to the post may send their particulars in the enclosed proforma by post to Under Secretary (IR), Department of Personnel and Training, North Block, New Delhi or  through e-mail to usrti-d...@nic.in   by November 18, 2011. Persons who are serving under the State/Central Government or any other  organization, may send their particulars through proper channel."
> Unquote
>  
>  
> Full text of the circular can be read on LINK below :
>  
>  http://circulars.nic.in/WriteReadData/CircularPortal/D2/D02nic/ic.pdf
>  
>  
> My take :
>  
> Government needs to be congratulated for making process of selection of Information Commissioner open to public.
>  
> This has been long standing demand of RTI Activists.
>  
> The big question is ... will  the entire process of selection become transparent?
>  
> I recommend those who desire to apply for the post to send their application by Speed Post in addition to sending it by email. The movement of Speed Post letter can be tracked on Dept of Posts website. 
>  
> Remember on 10 Dec 2010, DoPT had issued a circular seeking public comments on proposed amendment to RTI
> Rules by email...
>  
> After sending my comments I had followed it with an RTI seeking file details on which public views were being processed and had asked for attested hard copy of my comments sent by email. DoPT had not diariesd public comments in any file and could not show me the so called folder in which public comments placed as claimed by CPIO (DoPT).
>  
> When ever I checked with DoPT CPIO, I was told the said folder containing Public Comments "NOT TRACEBLE". The file on which the amendment to RTI rules was delibrated in DoPT had only NAC's comments.
>  
> Media story on my RTI can be read on the link below.
>  http://www.governancenow.com/gov-next/rti/draft-rti-rules-no-mechanis...

Ajay Dubey

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Oct 31, 2011, 1:00:58 PM10/31/11
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congratulations..

C K Jam

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Nov 4, 2011, 11:45:58 PM11/4/11
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Mr Manoj Kamra,

Now Mr Srabajit will start using the "H" word for me too !

RTiwanted


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Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 11:43 PM
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Vikram Simha

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Nov 5, 2011, 6:30:08 AM11/5/11
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Freinds ,
Mere posting messages in Web may not be the creitieria fopr Emminince . However i would like to draw attention of all , to probe WHY Dopt has not put up all the procedure to Scrutinise and filter down people .one reason being as on date Excepting ICSG none other was weighted Down for thier RTI Contributions
The emminence in thier eyes is totally a differnt one . but I would like to see all IC Aspirants Standing in a "Q" and the Three Most emminent Persons Conducting VIVA for them as seen when Children are selected for INDIAN IDOL or DANCE INDIA DANCE ( Why ofcourse i am very Satarical and i propose to write a fresh version of the Animal Farm)
Is it Not totally absurd & silly and Infact Stinking asking People to Apply rather than Scout and select . The People who Drafted Those Sections in RTI ACT 2005 Must be Puking .
We Donot know and are aware But I defiently Know of This fact " MY Neighbour is an  MP and is Close to One of the Persons who Certainly has to be the Member of the selection committee , Only yesterday I saw a Known President of an NGO  waiting at this MPs House and i very well Known he only Comes to Bangalore on Friday night and even his high profile wife is out of station . This person When asked Told me that he wants to pull Strings Through this MP Because the Member on CIC Selection committee Defiently visits MP House for an important festival & Pooja
So We all advertise that we will HELP in these LOGISTICS ???

N vikramsimha , KRIA Koota , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.

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M.K. Gupta

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Nov 5, 2011, 6:56:42 AM11/5/11
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Whenever now our Sarabjit (Shri) uses B (B*st*rd) or H (H*r*m*) words for some body, I think that the contribution of that person have, in fact, been recognized or they have got a certificate from him to contribute more and work with more vigour.


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Sidharth Misra

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Nov 5, 2011, 10:43:23 AM11/5/11
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Hi Guptaji,

What about himself as an IC ? Shall we get the F / B / H words in future decisions ?

Btw his contribution to RTI is undisputed, notwithstanding the vocabulary he uses.

Sidharth

Hari Goyal

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Nov 6, 2011, 3:27:06 AM11/6/11
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It is all absurd on the part of the Chief Information Commissioner, CIC not to do his job whatever his team strength is. He has put in 38 years of service in Government.
It is all the more absurd to ask RTI activists to write to DOPTN on his behalf or on their own. Is the way the Govt. in India run? he should ask experts like Digvijay Singh
or Agnivesh. Our friends as Activists should clarify their apprach as to what they want from delivery of information, as and when it is delivered. Recently many have
objected why Bikaner District Magistrate fined a reluctant PIO more than Rs. 25,000/. there are many such instances besides finding fault with Kiran Bedi, Anna Hazare
Team Member when the matter was between two persons/entities and no public money was wasted. Our RTI friends should understand the motive of those weakening
or opposing RTI movement . Thosae friends (?) using abusive language and comparing themselves with the Social Crusader who has awakened Real India are doing more
disservfice than making contribution to RTI movement.
 
Dr. H. D. Goyal 
06.11.2011
 

Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 20:13:23 +0530

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Trap Rti

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Nov 6, 2011, 6:33:26 PM11/6/11
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Friends
What fruits you all expect from a NEEM tree ?

Sarbajit Roy

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Nov 6, 2011, 9:24:01 PM11/6/11
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Dear Trap

http://www.discoverneem.com/neem-tree.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azadirachta_indica

The technical name for neem translates as "the free tree of India".

Its (bitter and indigestible) fruit is the source for neem oil.
Neem Oil has very well documented powerful antiseptic, astringent and
healing properties.

Sarbajit

LESLIE ALMEIDA

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Nov 6, 2011, 10:43:51 PM11/6/11
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I had great regards for S.R. he is learned n intellegent, however he gets carried over, and should mind his language.its better to be polite than arrogant, RTI is having a slow death, more and more PIO's r becoming defiant, because 1st appeallate authority takes up for PIO  and 2nd appeals have no backbone they r govt babus, appointed by govt for govt officials
 
L.A.  

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Trap Rti

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Nov 8, 2011, 4:45:19 AM11/8/11
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u r right Mr.
I never meant Neem Oil , but the Neem fruit

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