Proposal for an RTI

[M K Singhal]

It is well known that MPs are paid many allowances such as Petrol Allowance, Electricity Allowance, Telephone Allowance, Daily Allowance, highly subzidised housing and cafeteria, etc etc besides heavy salaries at par with highest paid govt employees. They are not required to give any certificate to the effect that their actual expenses under those heads were not less than the allowances thus claimed by them and hence they save lot of money for their personal benefit through these allowances. Will any RTI activist like to file an RTI application with appropriate govt agency to know the basis on which these allowances were sanctioned for MPs and steps taken by govt to ensure that these allowances have not become a source of personal benefit to MPs. This is important in view of the controversy recently raised by some congress ministers reg Kiran Bedi having saved some money from travelling costs due to her for use of her NGO.

mksinghal

[Anita Vijay Mehta]

I strongly propose :  Sarbajit to file RTI in the subject matter..
 
This will be vital application with the referance to context cited.
 
Vijay Mehta.

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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 09:55:29 +0530
From: mk.si...@yahoo.co.in
Subject: [HumJanenge] Proposal for an RTI
To:

[Abhimanyu]

yes ... sarbajit come on ...

[P Surendra Nath]

Dear Vijay Mehta,

I full endorse your proposition! Will Sarabjit be able to please us and prove his points through actions?

PS Nath

Hyderabad

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From: Anita Vijay Mehta <vmehta...@hotmail.com>
To: humja...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] Proposal for an RTI

[jaiprakash narain]

Yes, it is very much required.

From: Anita Vijay Mehta <vmehta...@hotmail.com>
To: humja...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] Proposal for an RTI

I strongly propose :  Sarbajit to file RTI in the subject matter..
 
This will be vital application with the referance to context cited.
 
Vijay Mehta.

[Sarbajit Roy]

Section 4 says

http://parliamentofindia.nic.in/ls/intro/p8.htm

http://parliamentofindia.nic.in/ls/handbook/chapter4.pdf

http://rajyasabha.nic.in/rsnew/msa_section/mpsalary.pdf

and so on.

[aruna jethwani]

agreed....why should mPs who laze in the glory of democracy be paid fat amount? Aruna Jethwani

[raja bunch]

Please frame the RTI and send. I will do in public domain.

Rgds

Bunch

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From: jaiprakash narain <col...@yahoo.co.in>
To: "humja...@googlegroups.com" <humja...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Proposal for an RTI

[capt beniwal]

MsP claim allowances for attending parliament without even attending it, because there is no way to find out whether a MP really sitted/attended/present in the house. 

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From: aruna jethwani <arunaj...@gmail.com>
To: humja...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, 7 November 2011 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Proposal for an RTI

[Anand Acf]

Why Sarbajit? Why can't you make application?

On 11/6/11, jaiprakash narain <col...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Yes, it is very much required.
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> From: Anita Vijay Mehta <vmehta...@hotmail.com>
> To: humja...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 5:00 PM
> Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] Proposal for an RTI
>
>
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> I strongly propose : Sarbajit to file RTI in the subject matter..
>
> This will be vital application with the referance to context cited.
>
> Vijay Mehta.
>
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> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 09:55:29 +0530
> From: mk.si...@yahoo.co.in
> Subject: [HumJanenge] Proposal for an RTI
> To:
>
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> It is well known that MPs are paid many allowances such as Petrol Allowance,
> Electricity Allowance, Telephone Allowance, Daily Allowance, highly
> subzidised housing and cafeteria, etc etc besides heavy salaries at par with
> highest paid govt employees. They are not required to give any certificate
> to the effect that their actual expenses under those heads were not less
> than the allowances thus claimed by them and hence they save lot of money
> for their personal benefit through these allowances. Will any RTI activist
> like to file an RTI application with appropriate govt agency to know the
> basis on which these allowances were sanctioned for MPs and steps taken by
> govt to ensure that these allowances have not become a source of personal
> benefit to MPs. This is important in view of the controversy recently raised
> by some congress ministers reg Kiran Bedi having saved some money from
> travelling costs due to her for use of her NGO.
> mksinghal

--
Anand S.
Coordinator, Anti Corruption Forum
Bangalore 560 085.
Cell No. +91-87928-91066

[Sarbajit Roy]

Because the information is already in public domain.

[Sant Mathur]

The attack is not on paucity of info but on the rationale of the whole thing,against rules of financial propriety,that bind all other public servants.Private sector people may getdifferent types of  allowances in lumpsum manner for which no "utilisation certificate",or "vouchers for actuals" are reqd as its felt trhe auditing exercise would be counterproductive,and possibly cost more than save anything substantial . The concept is "CTC(cost to company)",and not financial propriety to which theentire public financial system is tuned in the country.Eversince MPs have been declared public servants,the rules of financial propriety could essentially be required to be applied to any financial package given to them,say in trhe form of "allowances"

This,therefore,is an apt issue to be taken politically/legally.

And the climate is ripe for it.The masses/Courts could be sympathetic to any query raised in this matter,specially under Art 14 of the Constitution.Whats so great about MPs to exclude them from Rules of financial propriety?How could they seek separate reasonable classification for them alone in this matter? The question of parlamentary privilege is not likely to act as roadblock.

In ,the point raised is well taken.The need for well-thoughtout action only.

spm IPS DGP(retd)

BE MBA PhD(Management)

[Anand Acf]

Then why people are asking you to file RTI Application? I could't understand!

[ASHOK KUMAR JAIN]

Very good thought. It must be asked

From: raja bunch <bunch...@yahoo.co.in>
To: "humja...@googlegroups.com" <humja...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2011 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Proposal for an RTI

Please frame the RTI and send. I will do in public domain.

Rgds

Bunch