I have come to meet people online who say they follow God, but they obviously do not even know that the Bible is His Word. I have never seen people demonstrate a bigger stupidity than theirs. Five-year-old can do better. Do they really think that serious people would buy into their obvious lies? I guess it is their wickedness, I mean, people cannot really be so stupid, can they? They seem to live in a kind of alien world, a world of lies, and it seems that they were condemned to understand each other in that language of lies and cannot get out of there anymore. I do not know what was first, their lies to or about their neighbors, or their lies about Scripture.
I have found out that many people are not really interested in Bible study. They join Christian newsgroups for the lack of party time elsewhere. They do not want to hear God's Word, just those Words that fit into their own concept, yet they claim they would hear Jesus' voice. That is funny somehow, is it not? Some have used their whole lives to search the Bible for things they want to read out of it, others have not even tried reading yet.
However, if the Bible was not God's Word, they would all be lost anyway. They should make up their minds about it. If it is God's Word, God is the only TRUTH. Some are close, but do not have Jesus. Others are not even close but dancing around own herself. Some are gnostics, and even Apostle Paul fought against false Christian teachers who taught gnosticism already. Oh well, there is nothing new under the sun. Vanity of vanities, and spitting into the wind.
What I've noticed about people, who say they believe in God or follow Him
but ignore scripture, is that what they really believe and follow is
themselves with His will being what they would do if they were God. They
don't know the Lord or they would know His voice and hear it in His Word.
What doesn't help is a host of "pastors," "scholars," and skeptics who have
taught them that His Word is simply the opinions of nice old men about God.
Much of it is just plain stupid. Like the knave's talking about not reading
it literally when it disgrees with him and taking it literally when he can
twist the wording to seem to support him, like the "about to" in "about to
come," a new way to split an infinitive. Have you ever seen anyone at
anytime discussing whether any other work should be read literally? No, we
simply read them and notice the figurative and symbolic as well as the
literal statements. No one writes strictly literally (not even technical
writers) or strictly figurative.
I don't know if you've taken many literature courses, but when we read to
see what the Author is saying, we are trying to get into his head to follow
his thinking. When we read His Word as the work of the greatest Author, we
begin to follow His thinking and it becomes obvious.
There used to be a guy online John Tinnes, who began arguing why a given
book of scripture didn't belong in scripture when it disagreed with him. We
called him "Title Page John," because that is all he had left when he got
done taking out the rest of the scriptures which supported the first ones he
removed. Scripture confirms scripture, and when we hear His voice it reveals
all He will do.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Growing-Deeper@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:Growing-Deeper@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Vera Six
> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:55 AM
> To: Growing-Deeper@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Only God is the Truth
> I have come to meet people online who say they follow God, but they
> obviously do not even know that the Bible is His Word. I have never seen
> people demonstrate a bigger stupidity than theirs. Five-year-old can do
> better. Do they really think that serious people would buy into their
> obvious lies? I guess it is their wickedness, I mean, people cannot
> really be so stupid, can they? They seem to live in a kind of alien
> world, a world of lies, and it seems that they were condemned to
> understand each other in that language of lies and cannot get out of
> there anymore. I do not know what was first, their lies to or about
> their neighbors, or their lies about Scripture.
> I have found out that many people are not really interested in Bible
> study. They join Christian newsgroups for the lack of party time
> elsewhere. They do not want to hear God's Word, just those Words that
> fit into their own concept, yet they claim they would hear Jesus' voice.
> That is funny somehow, is it not? Some have used their whole lives to
> search the Bible for things they want to read out of it, others have not
> even tried reading yet.
> However, if the Bible was not God's Word, they would all be lost anyway.
> They should make up their minds about it. If it is God's Word, God is
> the only TRUTH. Some are close, but do not have Jesus. Others are not
> even close but dancing around own herself. Some are gnostics, and even
> Apostle Paul fought against false Christian teachers who taught
> gnosticism already. Oh well, there is nothing new under the sun. Vanity
> of vanities, and spitting into the wind.
> God Bless You.
Yes, right, that is what I believe, too. Most people want to follow themselves, which means that they have never surrendered to God, and have never been born again. If not born again, they are no believers.
Yes, they are twisting everything, and see metaphors where something does not fit into their own ideas. They should read the Bible like any other book. They usually do not see symbols, metaphors and the like when they read it. I agree, language is usually full of metaphors and symbols, and God is able to make things clear enough so we will understand them when the time has come. Somehow I do not need to read a symbolical meaning in the Scripture verses as they have to. It is all self-explaining to me. Revelation is the most powerful book of the Bible I have read, and Genesis. If God does not speak to people reading Genesis Himself, they will still believe in evolution theory. What is so difficult for people to believe that? I can say that I baked a cake from 4 pm to 6 pm. So why could God not have made the world in six days if he is God? What is the problem... And if Jesus went to heaven in a cloud, why should He not come back the same way? If God said that the heavens and the earth will melt away, He did not simply mean the fall of the Solomon Temple in Jerusalem under the Romans. The people knew that the earth was a little bigger than that in those times. They were not stupid. They just did not have as much science and machines like we have.
> What I've noticed about people, who say they believe in God or follow
> Him
> but ignore scripture, is that what they really believe and follow is
> themselves with His will being what they would do if they were God.
> They
> don't know the Lord or they would know His voice and hear it in His
> Word.
> What doesn't help is a host of "pastors," "scholars," and skeptics
> who have
> taught them that His Word is simply the opinions of nice old men
> about God.
> Much of it is just plain stupid. Like the knave's talking about not
> reading
> it literally when it disgrees with him and taking it literally when
> he can
> twist the wording to seem to support him, like the "about to" in
> "about to
> come," a new way to split an infinitive. Have you ever seen anyone at
> anytime discussing whether any other work should be read literally?
> No, we
> simply read them and notice the figurative and symbolic as well as the
> literal statements. No one writes strictly literally (not even
> technical
> writers) or strictly figurative.
> I don't know if you've taken many literature courses, but when we
> read to
> see what the Author is saying, we are trying to get into his head to
> follow
> his thinking. When we read His Word as the work of the greatest
> Author, we
> begin to follow His thinking and it becomes obvious.
> There used to be a guy online John Tinnes, who began arguing why a
> given
> book of scripture didn't belong in scripture when it disagreed with
> him. We
> called him "Title Page John," because that is all he had left when he
> got
> done taking out the rest of the scriptures which supported the first
> ones he
> removed. Scripture confirms scripture, and when we hear His voice it
> reveals
> all He will do.
> God Bless You,
> Fred
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Growing-Deeper@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:Growing-Deeper@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Vera Six
>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:55 AM
>> To: Growing-Deeper@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Only God is the Truth
>> I have come to meet people online who say they follow God, but they
>> obviously do not even know that the Bible is His Word. I have never
>> seen people demonstrate a bigger stupidity than theirs.
>> Five-year-old can do better. Do they really think that serious
>> people would buy into their obvious lies? I guess it is their
>> wickedness, I mean, people cannot really be so stupid, can they?
>> They seem to live in a kind of alien world, a world of lies, and it
>> seems that they were condemned to understand each other in that
>> language of lies and cannot get out of there anymore. I do not know
>> what was first, their lies to or about their neighbors, or their
>> lies about Scripture.
>> I have found out that many people are not really interested in Bible
>> study. They join Christian newsgroups for the lack of party time
>> elsewhere. They do not want to hear God's Word, just those Words that
>> fit into their own concept, yet they claim they would hear Jesus'
>> voice. That is funny somehow, is it not? Some have used their whole
>> lives to search the Bible for things they want to read out of it,
>> others have not even tried reading yet.
>> However, if the Bible was not God's Word, they would all be lost
>> anyway. They should make up their minds about it. If it is God's
>> Word, God is the only TRUTH. Some are close, but do not have Jesus.
>> Others are not even close but dancing around own herself. Some are
>> gnostics, and even Apostle Paul fought against false Christian
>> teachers who taught gnosticism already. Oh well, there is nothing
>> new under the sun. Vanity of vanities, and spitting into the wind.
>> God Bless You.
Jesus Talks to people in Parables so only those that aske Him
for the wisdome will be able to get the insight to decipher His
Word and even His Prophesies.
Misty,
________________________________
From: Vera Six <vera...@acc-growing-deeper.de>
To: Growing-Deeper@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 12:48:29 AM
Subject: Re: Only God is the Truth
Hi Fred,
Yes, right, that is what I believe, too. Most people want to follow themselves, which means that they have never surrendered to God, and have never been born again. If not born again, they are no believers.
Yes, they are twisting everything, and see metaphors where something does not fit into their own ideas. They should read the Bible like any other book. They usually do not see symbols, metaphors and the like when they read it. I agree, language is usually full of metaphors and symbols, and God is able to make things clear enough so we will understand them when the time has come. Somehow I do not need to read a symbolical meaning in the Scripture verses as they have to. It is all self-explaining to me. Revelation is the most powerful book of the Bible I have read, and Genesis. If God does not speak to people reading Genesis Himself, they will still believe in evolution theory. What is so difficult for people to believe that? I can say that I baked a cake from 4 pm to 6 pm. So why could God not have made the world in six days if he is God? What is the problem... And if Jesus went to heaven in a cloud, why should He not come back the same way? If God said that the heavens and the earth will melt away, He did not simply mean the fall of the Solomon Temple in Jerusalem under the Romans. The people knew that the earth was a little bigger than that in those times. They were not stupid. They just did not have as much science and machines like we have.
> What I've noticed about people, who say they believe in God or follow
> Him
> but ignore scripture, is that what they really believe and follow is
> themselves with His will being what they would do if they were God.
> They
> don't know the Lord or they would know His voice and hear it in His
> Word.
> What doesn't help is a host of "pastors," "scholars," and skeptics
> who have
> taught them that His Word is simply the opinions of nice old men
> about God.
> Much of it is just plain stupid. Like the knave's talking about not
> reading
> it literally when it disgrees with him and taking it literally when
> he can
> twist the wording to seem to support him, like the "about to" in
> "about to
> come," a new way to split an infinitive. Have you ever seen anyone at
> anytime discussing whether any other work should be read literally?
> No, we
> simply read them and notice the figurative and symbolic as well as the
> literal statements. No one writes strictly literally (not even
> technical
> writers) or strictly figurative.
> I don't know if you've taken many literature courses, but when we
> read to
> see what the Author is saying, we are trying to get into his head to
> follow
> his thinking. When we read His Word as the work of the greatest
> Author, we
> begin to follow His thinking and it becomes obvious.
> There used to be a guy online John Tinnes, who began arguing why a
> given
> book of scripture didn't belong in scripture when it disagreed with
> him. We
> called him "Title Page John," because that is all he had left when he
> got
> done taking out the rest of the scriptures which supported the first
> ones he
> removed. Scripture confirms scripture, and when we hear His voice it
> reveals
> all He will do.
> God Bless You,
> Fred
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Growing-Deeper@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:Growing-Deeper@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Vera Six
>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:55 AM
>> To: Growing-Deeper@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Only God is the Truth
>> I have come to meet people online who say they follow God, but they
>> obviously do not even know that the Bible is His Word. I have never
>> seen people demonstrate a bigger stupidity than theirs.
>> Five-year-old can do better. Do they really think that serious
>> people would buy into their obvious lies? I guess it is their
>> wickedness, I mean, people cannot really be so stupid, can they?
>> They seem to live in a kind of alien world, a world of lies, and it
>> seems that they were condemned to understand each other in that
>> language of lies and cannot get out of there anymore. I do not know
>> what was first, their lies to or about their neighbors, or their
>> lies about Scripture.
>> I have found out that many people are not really interested in Bible
>> study. They join Christian newsgroups for the lack of party time
>> elsewhere. They do not want to hear God's Word, just those Words that
>> fit into their own concept, yet they claim they would hear Jesus'
>> voice. That is funny somehow, is it not? Some have used their whole
>> lives to search the Bible for things they want to read out of it,
>> others have not even tried reading yet.
>> However, if the Bible was not God's Word, they would all be lost
>> anyway. They should make up their minds about it. If it is God's
>> Word, God is the only TRUTH. Some are close, but do not have Jesus.
>> Others are not even close but dancing around own herself. Some are
>> gnostics, and even Apostle Paul fought against false Christian
>> teachers who taught gnosticism already. Oh well, there is nothing
>> new under the sun. Vanity of vanities, and spitting into the wind.
>> God Bless You.
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