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From: JohnMu
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:42:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Mar 31 2008 6:42 am
Subject: Re: Webmaster Help transcripts
And here comes the chat transcript :-).

John

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Adam Lasnik: Welcome everyone :)
Matt Cutts: Chat chat chat!
Wysz: Hello, webmasters!
Ian M: Are Google intending to publish text and audio logs from this
meeting?
John Mueller: Hi everyone!
John Honeck: Chat to "All Participants" is greyed out for me...
Marc Bitanga: Good morning!
Daryl Auclair: So is that John Mueller i can hear typing?
MattD: Welcome to the chat. We're working on the permissions right
now.
Daryl Auclair: Good morning Matt
John Jones: I'll assume that I cannot respond to 'All Attendees'
purposefully? It is a non option for me in the send to drop down.
John Jones: ahh spoke too soon.
Barry Schwartz: hey there
MattD: Looks like the Q&A portion will be working soon. It's separate
from this chat box.
Barry Schwartz: i see Q&A tab
beckysharpe: Got it wrong already - good to be here and I'll try and
keep up ;-)
Adam Lasnik: Hey everyone
jtbandes: Chat is working now, it seems :)
Adam Lasnik: we should be be starting soon :)
Adam Lasnik: and yep, jtbandes, chat is working
John Honeck: Hello people
Adam Lasnik: We should be starting in just a few minutes...
Jesse Craword: Hello
SchoolsGalore: Hello
Matt Cutts: Looks like chat to "All Participants" is working now..
Barry Schwartz: hey everyone
cristina wood: hi all :)
Jacob Weiss: The googlers got it fixed!
Rey Colon: Whats up
Laurent: Bonjour tout le monde
Cassiano Travareli: hello everyone
John Jones: Hello Barry glad to see you on this chat. Can't wait to
see what highlights you write later today and maybe tomorrow. :-)
jimbeetle: hi folks
Brian Harnish: Hello everyone :)
Anderson: hi everyone
Barry Schwartz: i have to write highlights?
Laurent: this is very exciting
Barry Schwartz: :)
vijay: Hello Everyone, Good to see you people here,
Marjory Meechan: Hello
Dan Larkin: Good morning
John Jones: Barry - Well you have to copy and paste quotes and add
your valuable thoughts on the matter.
Barry Schwartz: can someone say something on the phone so we know ur
there
John Honeck: Barry, you could just do lowlights
Barry Schwartz: okay, ill take notes
Anderson: now it is working
SchoolsGalore: Ditto: can someone say something on the phone so we
know ur there
Barry Schwartz: google reader interfers with webex
Jesse Craword: Hello.
Mark: hi everyone
Barry Schwartz: in fact, Matt Cutts, tell Google Reader people they
have a major delay
Barry Schwartz: something is wrong today
John Honeck: Is this the Yahoo webmaster chat?
SchoolsGalore: yay
Korpis, LLC: Hello All Webmasters!
Barry Schwartz: hey john h!
Barry Schwartz: spam the Q&A!
John Honeck: Hi Barry
Manish: hi all
Matt Cutts: Do not spam the Q&A. :)
Barry Schwartz: oh, my bad, :)
Manish: hi matt gud to see u ehere
Barry Schwartz: camera?
Barry Schwartz: where?
jtbandes: I don't see one either
Jesse Craword: No camera for me. :(
Barry Schwartz: we dont see u
Barry Schwartz: video option is turned off
John Honeck: I have video, I think JohnMueller fell asleep
Rey Colon: I have video
Barry Schwartz: where do you see the video option?
Jesse Craword: so it's just some of us that are blind
jtbandes: apparently
Barry Schwartz: hmm
Barry Schwartz: ill close out and reopen
John Honeck: I had to click the Panels, then the arrow to open it
Jesse Craword: tell us if it works
Evan: Sometimes the video does not work on macs.
jtbandes: that doesn't account for everyone though
Jesse Craword: yeah, I'm on WinXP
John Honeck: A/S/PR?
Caleb Queern: Are we allowed to submit our questions for Q&A yet?
Laurent: Could you post the URL of the site ?
Matt Cutts: Caleb, I'd go ahead and submit if you have a Q for the
Q&A.
jtbandes: pictureline.com is what I heard them say
Caleb Queern: Thanks Matt
jtbandes: It's pretty..
Barry Schwartz: let me try firefox :)
Laurent: thanks
Matt Cutts: Yup, pictureline.com is the site that I'm checking out. :)
Laurent: Yes no camera for me (Mac)
John: I'm on Firefox as well
Gary Campbell: Can you push us to the website or screencast it ?
Jesse Craword: I'm on FF, no video
Wysz: We are looking at www. pictureline.com today
jtbandes: Safari (mac), no video
Matt Cutts: I'm not sure that we can screencast the url, but we're
looking at it.
John Honeck: no need for the www ;( whoops
Barry Schwartz: ok, in FireFox I see the shared brower
Barry Schwartz: no video yet
Barry Schwartz: ha, i saw all his email
Jesse Craword: Note that the system req's for webex list Firefox 2 and
a slew of Safari versions as supported, so that shouldn't be an issue
Barry Schwartz: where would i see the video?
jtbandes: How many people are getting video? Press "yes" above so we
can see
John Honeck: wow, whatever they just did messed everything up
Matt Cutts: John, in the lower right there are orange buttons to see
the chat, participants, etc.
Lee: I can see the space image but have no sound?
Jay: Please restate the URL thanks
jtbandes: pictureline.com
Brian Harnish: pictureline.com
Jay: thanks
Barry Schwartz: okay, again, so where would the video be if I saw
it? :)
jtbandes: Hey guys: your screencast seems to be working, go ahead and
pull up the site
Jesse Craword: not seeing the lower right buttons.
jtbandes: nope, no buttons
John: I lost my video
Kiowa: Are we supposed to see the site in the interface?
Barry Schwartz: what was that?
jtbandes: no idea
gaurav doshi: i m back 2 the chat panel
Matt Cutts: We moved from screencasting back to the normal interface.
Anderson: ok
gaurav doshi: ok
Matt Cutts: I'd say for everyone to just look at pictureline.com in
their own browser.
Barry Schwartz: lol
Linda Farm: anyone having trouble with verifying site on google's
website tools?
Ian M: They have the non-www vs www issue :)
Barry Schwartz: linda, its a problem google is fixing
Rob: i dont see the web portioin of the site. only instructions
Rob: ?
Linda Farm: so if my site was removed and i need to be able to verify
to re-submit my site, how do i do that?
Barry Schwartz: linda, more details at http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/016705.html
Linda Farm: so it's a google issue and not our issue?
Barry Schwartz: most likely
Linda Farm: well our website disappeared from google completely. how
do i get it back on or is this a glitch?
Barry Schwartz: ah, then that isnt good
Linda Farm: tell me about it. any ideas?
Rhea Drysdale: linda, disappeared from serps or webmaster central...
if serps something else is going on
Rob: what is the site we are reviewing?
Linda Farm: serps
Ian M: Reinclusion request... but check no spamming happened first
MattD: Linda, can you give me your site?
Rhea Drysdale: eh, find problem, fix and then reinclusion
Linda Farm: www.laborlawcenter.com
Ian M: e.g. if you hired someone to do SEO
Linda Farm: PLEASE HELP
Barry Schwartz: yea, not good http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.laborlawcenter.com
Linda Farm: I can't resubmit for reinclusion because the verifying is
not working on google tools
Ian M: pictureline.com also has index.php dup content e.g.
http://www.pictureline.com/index.php vs http://www.pictureline.com/
Barry Schwartz: verify will work soon, i think
Linda Farm: it was just working on wednesday, now it's goneplease use
our website as an example for today on how to get your site relisted.
good topic everyone wants to know
Matt Cutts: Linda, not to turn this into a "review my site forum", so
let's take just your case and not do general reviews for everyone.
Matt Cutts: But for your site, I have bad news. Looks like you might
have gotten hacked.
Laurent: I see more and more proxies getting indexed; creating dup
content with pages. Are you going to get them out of the index ?
Rob: what is the URL of the site of the site we are reviewing?
Matt Cutts: Looking on my side, we sent you a message about the site
in our webmaster message center.
Matt Cutts: Check out blog.laborlawcenter.com/2006/08/03/colorado-
mileage-reimbursement-law
Ian M: Are they talking about pictureline.com still?
Doug: Matt would it be possible to take a look at www.vacationrealty.com.
I would greatly appreciate it
Matt Cutts: As of a day or so ago, you had hidden text/links such as
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Brian Harnish: Ian- yes
gaurav doshi: i cant see the video
gaurav doshi: whatz the procedure for thayt
Matt Cutts: So the short answer is that you may have been hacked.
Barry Schwartz: ouch
Adam Lasnik: http://bodjie.homestead.com/
Linda Farm: what can we do???
Matt Cutts: We tried to warn you via email and a message in the
message center.
Barry Schwartz: matt, can i get that tool?
Linda Farm: should we redo the site? completely remove the blog
section? blog link?
Matt Cutts: On the bright side, once you fix the hacked stuff you
should be able to get back into Google soon.
JD: I thought this stuff wasnt allowed in chat
Matt Cutts: Linda, you'll want to restore to a backup of the site if
you have one. Your webhost may be able to help.
JD: everyone and their is going to be crying why their site isn't
showing up in G
webado - Christina: Webado here - I made it :)
Adam Lasnik: learningguitarnow.com
Evan: Welcome webado
Matt Cutts: Once you get the site fixed, see
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/09/quick-security-che...
Linda Farm: If we completely remove the blog affiliation right now,
will that help?
John Honeck: hi Webado
Matt Cutts: for some more tips to protect your site, e.g. patching
your blog.
Darren Wyles: hello people
Manish: Matt I have removed all the external links or nofollowed them
but still I am not getting my PR back ... can u plsssssss help
www.newindiamodels.com , www.ktpl.com , www.kidiezone.com
Matt Cutts: That would help, but I wouldn't remove your entire blog
just to get rid of the hacked stuff. Just take a little time and work
with a computer-savvy person to remove the hacked content.
Manish: i hv sent reconsideration reqsts around 3 times
Matt Cutts: Linda, I think we might also be working on a post about
"Hey, your site got hacked. Now what?"
Rhea DrysdalePC: heh, that'll be a fun post
Laurent: What URL are you talking about in the conference ?
Laurent: the dog site ?
Evan: Hi Manish, please ask questions directed toward panelists in Q &
A
Linda Farm: In the meantime for a quick fix to make up, can i remove
the link from www.laborlawcenter.com work on fixing blog and re-link
back after it's fixed. at least I can get my business up in the meant
time. our business was drastically cut due to the search engine
John: good idea about the feed
John: John
Adam Lasnik: digitalbase.eu
Barry Schwartz: Matt cutts, you did a post on that, more details at
http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/016096.html
Evan: Laurent - the dog site was bodjie.homestead.com
Barry Schwartz: u guys should put me on ur payroll
Matt Cutts: digitalbase.eu, cool.
Rhea DrysdalePC: lol @barry
Brian Ussery: work it Barry: )
Manish: I have tried my best to chk and remove any external links
leaking PR on my sites that were facing PR0 penalty but still no PR
www.newindiamodels.com , www.ktpl.com , www.kidiezone.com
Brian Harnish: LOL @ Barry :)
Matt Cutts: Linda, that could work. Normally it doesn't hurt to take
the few extra hours to recover back to a fully clean state though.
Linda Farm: How do I inform you once the site is clean for inclusion
back on serps?
Alan Rothstein: What happens when someone takes over a domain and ip
address that has a history of bad neighborhood links and may be
penalized by Google?
John Jones: Barry aren't you already on someone elses payrol these
days? (kidding)
Barry Schwartz: it's googles fault Linda's site was hacked, they did
it to spam google, ;-)
Barry Schwartz: funny john jones
John Honeck: Did I just read something about PageRank leaking? must
need more coffee
TimDineen: Blogs get hacked all the time... if you'd add a wildcard
function to Webmaster Tools it'd be helpful for allowing us to remove
bad stuff from your index quicker. Bad content doesn't always sit in a
directory. thx.
JD: this chat is like a digitalpoint thread
Gijs Nelissen: no we are not
John Jones: I have a feeling i'll be logging into SE roundtable for
the last time after that comment. You are already looking me up.
Gijs Nelissen: it's not ISS
Barry Schwartz: what John?
Matt Cutts: Linda, I'll keep an eye out for it myself.
Ian M: Why oh why do Microsoft not make IIS follow the standards..
sigh
Gary Carpenter: I setup a webmaster account an submitted my url. I
also setup a Sitemap.xml file. Google reports that the url is indexed
and the Sitemap file is OK yet when I google search my url the result
is "No Documents Found". What have I done wrong???
John Honeck: JD, nice! It's not DP because nobody has asked about the
next PR update yet.
JD: oh its coming
Eric: For a business that gets a lot of negative feedback, what is
suggested for social media growth?
Matt Cutts: TimDineen, I think you can use a wildcard in robots.txt.
Doug: you can
Ian M: It all went quiet...
Anderson: call lost
Eric Martindale: Because standards are silly! That'd be silly...
Dito: :(
Doug: I lost it too
Jesse Craword: deathly silence on the line
webado - Christina: No audio
Amy Balliett: me too
Gary Campbell: m2
Eric Martindale: And too easy. Yeah, lost the call?
Darren Wyles: well its gone quiet
kasia: m2
Gijs Nelissen: are we able to listen to a recording of this
conference ?
Jaan Kanellis: i am lost as well
Faris: me2
gaurav doshi: gone
Linda Farm: The blog link is removed. I will clean up blog and put it
back on after integrity is checked. lesson learned. can y ou see if
this suite's google's needs
MattD: Our phone connection dropped, we'll be right back on
Jeremy Rivera: it's quiet....tooo Quiet...
John Honeck: And then it went silent...
Ian M: Matt Cutts trip over the cable? :)
Matt Cutts: We're getting the audio back.
Rey Colon: i do not here anything
webado - Christina: oh-oh
MattD: haha
SchoolsGalore: arrrgh
TimDineen: Thanks Matt - yes, that's what we ended up doing.
Brian Harnish: Ian- LOL
Eric Martindale: Matt, jeez. What'd you do!
TimDineen: took longer that way I think
jtbandes: Should have just used a google talk group chat :)
gaurav doshi: thanks matt
kasia: still cant hear
webado - Christina: is it too late for me to ask nicely to get an
opinion?
Matt Cutts: Linda, I'll check it out.
Jesse Craword: I think I might have heard a sea lion over there.
MattD: ...and we're back
Kevin Rogers: and its back
Eric Martindale: There we are!
Jesse Craword: yay!
John Jones: yay!
kasia: back!
Dito: woohoo
Liviu Taloi: oookiii
Ian M: yay
gaurav doshi: back
webado - Christina: yay
Alan Rothstein: anyone know about bad ip bbuying
Brian Harnish: yay!!
Matt Cutts: I know that you're actively working on fixing the hacked
blog, so I expect that you'll come back quickly.
Wysz: :-)
Jeremy Rivera: yay
Linda Farm: Thank you so much! You don't
Scott: testing
Doug: Matt I got alot of people relying on our site and I have done a
full review to see why the site has a dampening penalty on it
Linda Farm: How can i just get the www.laborlawcenter.com on serps w/
out the blog since I removed it. lesson learned no more need to
discipline me. :)
Manish: any suggestion for me matt
Jacque: http://209.85.207.104/search?hl=en&q=link%3A+laborlawcenter.com&btnG=...
John Honeck: The only prescription is more cowbell
Jacque: Linda did you just recently have a link building campaign with
an SEO company?
Matt Cutts: Cowbell!
Scott: ^we just had an issue like that
Alan Rothstein: Matt cutts, will there be a transcript of this call
posted???
John Honeck: Yeah Aaron!
Darren Wyles: Aaron Pratt is famous now lol
Matt Cutts: Um, not sure Alan Rothstein. It may be something you have
to dial in to experience. :)
Matt Cutts: Go Aaron!
Linda Farm: please help me i feel like a chicken these days a dead one
or a cow with mad cow disease.
dockarl: nyone else lost sound?
Doug: mine is back
Ian M: I still have sound
Brian Harnish: Nope
Sasch Mayer: nope
Alan Rothstein: I am listening :) Just wanted to know for future
reference
Jesse Craword: we have it back now, I think
Linda Farm: so to see if it goes back on serps, should i just keep
googling laborlawcenter.com to see if i was put back on?
dockarl: hmmm... bugger... I'm podcasting :)
John Honeck: dockarl, we have sound here in this hemisphere
webado - Christina: Sound's OK, Maile is talking about Aaron's images
Matt Cutts: Yup, I expect that if you can also get the hacked content
removed from the blog, I can see that and get you back in 1-2 days.
MattD: If you've lost sound, you may try logging out and back in
(classic tech support solution). It worked for a few people earlier.
Linda Farm: THANKS! YOU ARE A LIFE SAVER!
John Honeck: Did you wiggle the handle?
Linda Farm: do you have a date of when you noticed the hacked
materials and I can back up the file from then?
Liviu Taloi: salut nelu
Andrea Frehner: I can see and hear you, Andrea
Andrea Frehner: Dear John, sorry, I can not find you, Andrea
Alan Rothstein: Image enhancement. Are we going to here about this and
the pros...
Matt Cutts: We sent you emails and put a message on 3/27/2008
(yesterday), so the hack was probably pretty recent.
devang: Guys will you providing a overview/slides of this session ?
Gary Campbell: Can we save the Q&A test ?
Linda Farm: I am trying to get it fixed.
Linda Farm: thanks
Gijs Nelissen: is anyone in here recording audio ?
Eric Martindale: Is there any way to access the audio to this call
over the PC? Google Talk...?
Nelu Lazar: yeah, it would be nice to see this session recorded video/
audio
Eric Martindale: Right, thanks. Google competitor, lol.
Rhea DrysdalePC: whatever works :)
John Honeck: Oh Oh she said PR, let the blogging begin!
Matt Cutts: For now I'm just glad that things are mostly working in
real-time. But down the road we could definitely think about how to
archive the audio or more.
Alan Rothstein: is this going to be an on going live chat session,
Monthly, Quarterly?
Ian M: Audio plus presentation is good
JD: separate?
jimbeetle: Is Maile's image presentation going to be avaiable online?
devang: @ Matt Cutts - so not for this session?
Linda Farm: for search engine results if we change from .asp to .php
and use 301 redirect, would that affect our serps
Matt Cutts: Not positive, devang. I think worst case people can copy
much of the chat text going on.
Ian M: ok - question related to this image session - do Google ever
pay attention to title attribute as well as alt one?
Evan: Hi Everyone, for Q&A please put all your questions in one entry
if possible, otherwise they will lose context and be confusing.
Matt Cutts: Linda, .asp vs. .php doesn't make any difference to us.
webado - Christina: sorry my quesiton needed 5 messages - in case
anybody even sees it
John Honeck: set up the server to serve PHP on .asp so you don't need
to change the URLs
Eric Martindale: Matt, but what about .html? We serve our dynamic
pages as HTML with variables.
sawan: Hi Matt, does the long URL matter, for any ecommerce site?
Matt Cutts: Ian M, good question. I think it would be fair to use
other info on the page to help improve image search (e.g. text near an
image).
Linda Farm: so if i'm in good ranking, if i changed my current address
from .asp to .php, do i need to inform google somehow to know it's the
same site/content just different .asp or .php?
John Honeck: Yay Maile
sawan: Thanks Maile, that was quite informative
Ian M: Specifically about the title attribute,if that's ok?
webado - Christina: Thanks Maile
Eric Martindale: gwing.net/remaeus-m4.html actually hosts dynamic
content, dynamically rewritten from a .php file - is that any
different from hosting the .php file directly?
Eric Martindale: Isn't title what is displayed to the user on:hover?
Ian M: yes
Christi: So should the alt and title mirror each other or be
different?
Ian M: unless you use ie which does the same for alt (because
microsoft ignore standards..)
Brian Ussery: Does Google extract exif from images?
Matt Cutts: Eric, for .php if stuff happens on the server side, we
only see what the webserver dishes up. So it's fine to have some PHP
executing but available in an .html file.
sawan: Hi Matt, does the long URL matter, for any ecommerce site?
John Jones: Thank you.
sawan: Matt, are you saying having .html file as output is much better
than having .php?prod=asaa right?
John Honeck: sitemaps documentation states not to include images
Eric Martindale: Okay, thanks Matt - will my page be treated
differently for having a different extension? Or is an URL simply an
URL, for example, if it were entirely without an extension?
Matt Cutts: Brian, I'm not sure, personally. I could imagine that any
stuff embedded in an image file might be used, though.
Matt Cutts: sawan, there's two issues here. Extension
(.php, .asp, .html) doesn't matter to us.
Ian M: I really don't see why Google bother with the opt-in for the
image game
John Jones: Thanks for the direct address on that question guys.
Eric Martindale: I kinda see mirroring title and alt as keyword
stuffing, personally.
sawan: Ok, then does the trailing paramters behind the .php
matter....something like proddetail.php?prod=product_name same as
product_name.htm ?
Matt Cutts: But if you can steer away from tons of url parameters,
that helps.
richard: do subdomains present a potential hotlinking issue?
Terence: Is it possible to copy/paste or export everything in the Q&A
box?
Ian M: re-geolocation, I hope that will be covered properly
Eric Martindale: sawan, I think a shorter URL is better in almost any
case, the higher the ratio of your keywords in the URL, the better
Ian M: Simple "use x, we don't look at y" is all that iswanted
sawan: Thanks Matt
Eric Martindale: /page.php?page=keyword is less preferrable to /
keyword.html or just /keyword
Eric Martindale: /keyword is likely the bottom-line best URL structure
you could use.
sawan: Eric and I are on same page
Matt Cutts: Eric, we don't have an explicit "how short is your url"
signal, but clear categories often work better than tons of
parameters. And they can be more memorable as well.
sawan: i think /keyword.html is much better
Brian Ussery: Thanks Matt
Jon: Matt Cutts YOU ROCK
Linda Farm: Hi Matt! - To summarize, I officially took that blog link
off of my main www.laborlawcenter.com website and now I am currently
having our database cleaned up to remove those spam from the Blog and
then I will put it back on. Is this sufficient clean up work? Our
company is in dire need of getting the serps listings back and so I
want to know if this is the most efficient and quickest way to do so.
Manish: Is it true that the .com domains are ranked highr in SERPs
than say .in domains ?
John Jones: haha!
Matt Cutts: Yup, I'm on the same page with sawan/Eric. Easy to
remember urls are better for users as well.
John: I've been recording from the last 15 minutes
Brian Rutledge-GetPageOne.com: I can't imagine no one here is geeky
enough to have recorded it :)
Barry Schwartz: i dont think im blogging this
Caleb Queern: lol
Matt Cutts: Linda, that should get you in good shape quite soon with
Google.
SchoolsGalore: Hey! I am recording it in entirety
Ian M: Maybe we should put it out as a torrent afterwards
SchoolsGalore: not a geek, i dont think
sawan: Thanks Matt, direct information is always helpful... than
working in Dark
John: That would be me. I'm an audio engineer
Barry Schwartz: email it to me schoolgalore
Jesse Craword: yay! we love you, schoolsgalore
Eric Martindale: Always focus on the user, that is after all your end
result
Ian M: I cut off the boring start stuff
Brian Rutledge-GetPageOne.com: I've been trying to blog it live as we
go, as much as I can keep up, anyway.
SchoolsGalore: gimme email
sawan: I think the idea of direct chat with Google R*O*C*K*S
Barry Schwartz: barry @ rustybrick dot com
Laurent: Why are nofollow links showing in Webmaster Central ?
Jesse Craword: jesse @ ce-int.net would appreciate it.
Rhea DrysdalePC: barry will you repost it on SER?
Matt Cutts: This has been fun. :)
Eric Martindale: Because a nofollow link is stil a link!
Barry Schwartz: of course
Rhea DrysdalePC: :)
jimbeetle: Thanks SchoolsGalore and thanks Barry
Brian Harnish: Yeah :)
Darren Wyles: glad someone is saying about people posting urls in the
forum lol
Linda Farm: definitely been really fun
sawan: It sure is Linda Farm
Linda Farm: i don't think this should be beta but permanent
Laurent: I thought that GG did not follow nofollow
Laurent: therefore not index
John Honeck: 17? try 1700
Matt Cutts: Laurent, the idea of links in the webmaster console is to
show practically all of the links that we know of. That's why we even
show nofollow links.
Eric Martindale: Google does follow "nofollow" links, but it (should)
treats them differently than normal links.
Laurent: Ok I get it
aaron: Why show the NOFOLLOW links?
Linda Farm: so does serps like content that is informative or content
that has alot of relevant keywords?
Rhea DrysdalePC: matt, can those links be labeled in GWC?
Laurent: What kind of popularity do you give to nofollow
Laurent: ?
Rabin: looks like i missed it
SchoolsGalore: I will try to get it to all of ya who give email. Do my
best.
Matt Cutts: Laurent, we don't follow nofollow links, but we do include
nofollow links in the webmaster console just to give webmasters a full
picture of all the stuff that's linking to them.
Brian Rutledge-GetPageOne.com: @ Schools, not judging, I am a geek :)
Are you going to post it?
Rabin: is there any transcript that i can have or something!
Gijs Nelissen: seriously, his is a great initiative from google
webmaster team, keep up the good work !
Caleb Queern: I second that!
gaurav doshi: Matt, what can be done to prevent spammy images?
Rhea DrysdalePC: i'd like to see the nofollows labeled as such in GWC
Ian M: ditto
Tim Taylor: yah mon
Aaron Chronister: rhea, me too.
John: Yeah great information here
Ian M: (on both things)
Darren Wyles: good point rhea
aaron: yeah...label the NOFOLLOW links as something else!
Matt Cutts: guarav, do you mean on your own site?
John Jones: Who was the image presentation speaker of this call?
Manish: Is there anyway or tool that we can use to see which pages on
our website are leaking PR
Matt Cutts: Rhea, I'll pass that on but I'm not sure whether we can
offer that.
Aaron Chronister: i'd also like to go back in time and un-buy some
links.... :)
SchoolsGalore: I want to, just need to figure out how. I am not a
webmaster, i am a writer... but I will try to figure out how after
this is over, OK?
gaurav doshi: yes
Rhea DrysdalePC: understood, but worth considering :_)
Tim Taylor: Maile Ohye gave the presentation.
Laurent: Thanks MC
Barry Schwartz: thank you
Rhea DrysdalePC: thnx guys
jtbandes: Should we put it up as a torrent?
Eric Martindale: What can be done about "devaluation" link campaigns
against competitor's sites, where thousands of links are provided from
bad neighborhoods to specific pages? This has been proven to lower
competitors' rankings...
TimDineen: Excellent that Google is doing this chat. The Q/A was
extremely helpful too.
Ian M: Matt Cutts - on geolocation,can you just quickly tell us what
tags to use?
Gijs Nelissen: do you have the entire conference ?
Gijs Nelissen: as audio
TimDineen: Thanks to all of you! Please do it regularly?
SchoolsGalore: so far
Matt Cutts: John, that was Maile Ohye.
Ian M: and what not to use
Jeganathan: Matt, Is there a way we can submit bulk of urls to remove
from google index in a single shot? we have hundreads of urls and
submitting them individually is a pain.
Rhea DrysdalePC: yup would love to do this again, great idea adam!
Brian Harnish: It would be awesome to have a regular Google Help Group
chat. Very useful :)
Mark Kaufman: Thanks all!
John Jones: Please send participants a survey to suggest how to make
this better for next time and the time after that.
Laurent: Now about users. I think GG gives users a give note. For
instance, if the user puts a site in bookmarks or clic an URL on a
page. Am I wrong ?
TimDineen: Can you make the QA copy-able?
Eric Martindale: With javascript/AJAX/other stuff; always test with
Javascript disabled! Also, view source - if it isn't in the source,
even Googlebot can't see it. ;]
John Jones: Phill ... File >> Save
Matt Cutts: Eric, we work very hard to prevent people from causing
harm like that.
Barry Schwartz: John Jones, were u joking earlier?
Manish: Is there anyway or tool that we can use to see which pages on
our website are leaking PR
John Jones: Barry absolutely man. I'll hit you up later via e-mail and
explain my botched joke. Sorry boss.
Matt Cutts: Ian M, look at ccTLD, IP address, and then use the
geolocation feature of the webmaster console.
gaurav doshi: Matt, i have created new blog in blogger that is related
to mobile, it has been banned by blogger! what can be the reason
behind it?
Barry Schwartz: k, hard to see jokes here
Brian Ussery: Thanks guys!!!!
Eric Martindale: Manish, I agree - a Flash representation of our
domains would be very nice, showing link flow and strength!
Barry Schwartz: great job guys!
Laurent: Merci all
webado - Christina: thanks everybody :)
Gary Campbell: My suggestion to Webmaster tools - detail exact issues
when penalized or non compliance - would help millinos of people and
reduce requests on your side as well
sawan: Adam, you have been good host
John: It's been cool!
Barry Schwartz: JohnMu should build an App to do this
Linda Farm: thanks!
Ian M: something that works on all search engines?
Felipe Miyata: Thank You !!!
Sasch Mayer: nicely done :-)
Gijs Nelissen: webex should be recording this conferenceno ?
Matt Cutts: Jeganathan, if you can come up with a good pattern
(subdirectory, subdomain, or wildcards) you can use our url removal
tool.
Barry Schwartz: no browser hijack!
Dictina: thx!
Darren Wyles: be class if this was a regular event
Mark: Thanks guys!
sawan: We are happy for GOOGLE to come close webmasters
Linda Farm: Matt, if you can please take a look at my site in about an
hour,everything will be fixed.
Linda Farm: THANKS MATT YOU'RE A LIFE SAVER
Tim Taylor: ty guys. I can't wait to see this posted on Youtube with a
mashup of Yakkety Sax behind it.
Ian M: Matt - a quick question here would be is this valid or not?
<meta name=language>
John Honeck: Thanks all involved
Ian M: see the question in the google groups thread
Eric Martindale: Yeah, everyone give a round of applause to the Google
team! Please! *claps*
aaron: THANKS EVERYONE!
Marjory Meechan: Thanks so much guys. It was great!!
sawan: You could be get more than 2 million Adam
Alan Rothstein: Thanks, helped tons!
Tim Taylor: *clapping*
Rhea DrysdalePC: woot!
Brian Rutledge-GetPageOne.com: @ Schools, We'll host it if you like.
Brian Harnish: *applause*
Laurent: When is the next conference ?
aaron: can we talk about Paid Links?
Manish: thanks for the great discussion ... hope next time its with
Matt Cutts .... One to One :-)
Ian M: tomorrow :p
dockarl: Props to all the Googlers - this was excellent :D
Manish: he seems to be fav ofall
Rabin: can we embed videos from youtube to optimize our own site?
Eric Martindale: Video and Image search needs content recognition, not
just written text recognition. :/
Rhea DrysdalePC: manish all of 'em have good insight, matt's just
pushier ;)
Barry Schwartz: guys, please send me any audio or text u have for
this, ill make sure to post it around
Jeganathan: Thanks Matt! Is the removal tool in GWT accepts wilcards?
Matt Cutts: Gary, we keep trying to provide more and more information
in the webmaster console. We've gradually been increasing the number
of people who get info about issues. Linda in the chat had a message
waiting for her, for example, so she didn't need to catch me about
this issue. :)
Eric Martindale: When is Google Video going to turn into a Video
Search Engine?!?!?!
Barry Schwartz: http://www.google.com/search?q=iphone%20popcorn
Jonatas Leonel: What is better to use and wich one have more power on
google: the robots.txt or the meta tag robots?
Eric: can you explain rel=nofollow tags on links? When and where
should we use these tags?
Jim McNelis: you can add video to your google maps listing
gaurav doshi: Matt, still paid links carry the same importance for
google rank as it was having before the last PR update
Rhea DrysdalePC: shameless plug barry ha
Matt Cutts: Ian, I don't think we use meta tags for language right
now.
Barry Schwartz: lol
Ian M: any meta tags? or http headers?
Barry Schwartz: im link dropping like mad, webex link spam
Ian M: we keep having pages with french words appearing as french
language
Rhea DrysdalePC: at least it isn't ascii art drops
Rabin: i am wondering if we embed the video from youtube in my site,
is there anyway, that i can have my site optimized!
Ian M: travel guides, co.uk tld, uk ip
Eric Martindale: What is the value of a link, and how can someone sell
it if we're not passing pagerank?
Marjory Meechan: What about buying links?
Darren Wyles: eric a link can pass human traffic
gaurav doshi: Eric i have raised same issue to Matt
Ian M: Matt - a Google rep at SES London said to use <meta
name=language> - so that is wrong then?
Jim McNelis: what are the metrics that help your listing rank higher
in google maps?
John Honeck: by all, he means some
Rabin: who else is on the bandwagon of nofollow, is it only google or
all the major search engine?
Rhea DrysdalePC: jim... address, google local business center listing,
etc
Eric Martindale: 90% of a link's value is because of the content on
the linking page, and the value of the page - which, in results, will
flow more organic visitors, which is why links are valuable.
Ian M: all support nofollow - ask took a bit longer to implement but
also do
gaurav doshi: thanks Eric
Jim McNelis: Rhea, I mean beyond that
Eric Martindale: Cut the linkjuice, cut the value of a link, and
you're making the wrong issue out of the real problem
MattD: Her is the link to the feedback thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-chit-chat/browse...
Rabin: some bloggers, i am not going to name, they are just bashing
this nofollow, so i am kind of confused
Matt Cutts: Rhea, true dat. :) I'm holding back to let Adam tackle the
subdomains vs. subdirectories question. :)
Eric Martindale: The real solution would be to improve content
detection, and put less value on the links that don't match the page's
(and target pages) "keyword set"
Brian Rutledge-GetPageOne.com: Why do subdomains work so well for
Apartments.com then, they just have landing pages and they rank like
mad?
gaurav doshi: Matt, whatz the future of social bookmarking sites in
google web search?
TimDineen: Speaking of subdomains -- the problem is that I agree
subdomains are same as directories.. but we see other sites spamming
the heck out of Google with useless subdoms all the time. It causes
some to want to move in that direction.
Rabin: i am wondering how search within search feature google recently
deployed is going to affect the subdomain conundrum!
Jim McNelis: why do digg articles rank so well since it just links to
the original article
Rhea DrysdalePC: eh, but good sites like national geographic are built
on subdomains, too.
Eric Martindale: Digg articles rank because of their link structure,
particularly internally
Matt Cutts: Jeganathan, I know that wildcards are supported in
robots.txt. Not positive about the url removal tool though. It does
support directories though.
Darren Wyles: it does make sense
Laurent: Why proxies appear in SERPS with copies of pages ?
Matt Cutts: Jonatas Leonel, the robots.txt is very powerful because
you can block vast swaths of urls. The meta tag is helpful though
because it's so granular.
Darren Wyles: if you search for something and the first 200, results
are for the same article from 200 different sites?
Barry Schwartz: i thought it was 42%
Rhea DrysdalePC: and now google offers a robots.txt generator... yay
gaurav doshi: Rhea, where can i find that generator?
Matt Cutts: gaurav doshi, it's safe to assume that Google is going to
reduce the influence of links that we consider bad for users over
time. My advice is to look at getting editorially-given links because
of the quality of the content/site.
Eric Martindale: And Blogger is cumbersome for SEO!
Rhea DrysdalePC: adam uses expression engine =)
John Honeck: It.s actually 43.2342 which rounds to 42%
Rabin: wordpress
Barry Schwartz: ah, i stand corrected
Eric Martindale: The platform doesn't matter, it's the template
Laurent: Why proxies appear in SERPS with copies of pages ?
Barry Schwartz: matt, what you dressing up as on April 1st?
Eric Martindale: Look for templating systems that allow customization!
gaurav doshi: thanks matt
Matt Cutts: Ian M, it doesn't hurt to use a meta tag for language, but
we're more likely to trust our own language identification.
Rabin: i think Matt one day said WP is the best from SEO point of vie
Barry Schwartz: WP gets hacked way too often
Rabin: i agree with him because of its excelled CMS
webado - Christina: I don't think proxies can be identified
programmaticlaly as easily as by just eyaballing them
Ian M: Matt - which meta language tag is the key question? (and thank
you for answering)
Rhea DrysdalePC: yeah, wp is easy, but long term requires lots of
maintenance... PITA
Darren Wyles: it does seem that way barry with WP, from the amount of
my site got hacked on the forum
Eric Martindale: WP and Blogger both allow URL customization, WP is
more powerful - what's MOST important is the template!
Jeganathan: thanks Matt.
Fábio Ricotta: Matt, why Google does not penalize big sites that uses
hidden links and uses a lot of crosslinking? I saw it into real estate
so much. There are a lot of big websites that uses those tatics
Rhea DrysdalePC: drupal... anyone else like it?
Ian M: meta name=language, html lang=, http-header-equivalent content-
language (or even dublin core stuff)
Jesse Craword: I use drupal some. not a huge fan though.
gaurav doshi: Matt, i m not getting exact images of mine when i search
my name in google images. Websites are perfects but images are not
pratt: I really like Drupal, but am more familiar with WP. I think
that is what gives WP the edge, more help available online.
Nick Wilsdon: drupal is way too open out of the box - Earl got his new
install hacked within 5mins
Matt Cutts: Barry, I dress up for Halloween, but I haven't decided
what to do for April 1st yet. Any suggestions from the chat? :)
Swaroop: Akismet saves me from all the drugs :)
Ian M: Matt - you are scary enough as is ;)
Rabin: may be we should just deactivate the comments
John Honeck: I haven't even got the April 1st tree up yet!
Jeremy: Nick Wilsdon, Not as open as WP
Eric Martindale: How about forums and SEO?
Jesse Craword: Forums and SEO would interest me, too
Jaan Kanellis: Can you say that PR Sculpting is important for most all
websites to use?
Nick Wilsdon: @Jeremy depends what you are good at.
Rabin: embedded videos and SEO
Matt Cutts: The April 1st tree? I love it!
Rhea DrysdalePC: ha, nice jaan... let's talk about paid links too
Barry Schwartz: @matt emailed you
Ian M: With the Q&A - post it live on the group
Darren Wyles: public chat would make a good, attachment to the forum.
Jaan Kanellis: with the recent firestorm of some SEOers saying
sculpting does or does not work it would help to get a definitive
answer from your team
Hasit Ruparel: I have reported about a site as spam, as they are
duplicating the website on several domains, still no response.
Submiting them again is good?
Swaroop: Plz put a Google Talk back widget on the group'
pratt: I thought Matt had already talked about it on his blog.
John Jones: For whoever is speaking... Thank you for answering this
question!
Rabin: may be capitalization of word will help: EMBEDDED VIDEO & SEO?
Rhea DrysdalePC: and some interviews
Laurent: What is Google doing to prevent Climate Change ? Your servers
are not helping the planet
John Honeck: Oh boy....
Laurent: Even the Lava Lamp is not a good idea
jtbandes: Laurent, google.org
Darren Wyles: lol
Swaroop: G OS ?
Jacque: What would be a link that floats a Page Ranks, Does this mean
the links are on that of a high PR page?
Sasch Mayer: You want to stop climate change? Stop all those cows from
farting...
Jeganathan: Matt, we are gallery2 for our gallery sites with SEO
friendly urls (short urls enabled) enabled. Google image is hardly
indexing the images. Which type of url is recommended for galleries?
Eric Martindale: Google can't possibly be causing the ice caps on Mars
to melt... ;]
gaurav doshi: jacque, page rank has got different criterias as well
other than high PR links
Swaroop: @Eric - possible that its already gone..
Rhea DrysdalePC: PR "sculpting" should be standard site optimization,
but if it takes more than 2mins time isn't worth it. Something bigger
is obviously wrong w/the site.
Nick Wilsdon: agree with rhea there
pratt: @Rhea good point
Eric Martindale: Yeah, Rhea, very good point
Fábio Ricotta: Matt we see a lot of pages in the web just copying RSS
Feeds from other websites and using it to gain more Adsense. How
Google plans to deal with?
Liviu Taloi: when will be the next update on IBL?
Eric Martindale: So, on the note of tree structure, forums are in good
shape, right?
Laurent: I read google.org, but no direct answer to how save energy
about servers use
Richard Hearne: any ocmmentary on downsides to PR sculptinh? Tell us
ow it can hurt our sites?
gaurav doshi: Whatz the future of Google Knol?
Eric Martindale: When does Google Dating launch? Is that coming in
April?
Barry Schwartz: when is matt cutts getting a mac?
Ian M: April 1st ;)
John Honeck: what is a mac?
Rhea DrysdalePC: speed dating w/webmaster central?
Ian M: When will Matt Cutts be the CEO of Microsoft?
Swaroop: good work :)
Brian Harnish: LOL
Jeremy Rivera: If it's not a paid link should I use a no follow to
keep page rank on my page, or should I let it flow out to other sites?
Swaroop: @Matt Cutts - Is famous !
Ian M: Jeremy - latter, don't be a dead end, that is bad too
Laurent: Dan Sullivan got a Mac :)
John Honeck: Oh I think some people here know what a splog is...
Jeremy Rivera: "The Link Juice Must Flow"
Aaron Chronister: What is the average air speed velocity of an unladen
swallow?
Rhea DrysdalePC: HAHA
Raffi: does anyone know - if nofollow is used on a link, is the anchor
text ignored, or still taken into account?
pratt: lol
Eric Martindale: What about community blogs that republish author
content in a favorable fashion? Will they be punished too?
Matt Cutts: Jaan, I'm heading out now. Thanks for giving me a chance
to try to clarify the role of sculpting vs. good information
architecture from scratch vs. spending your time just making great
content that naturally attracts links.
Brian Harnish: Is that a european or african swallow?
Laurent: Good the quota of OS X hacking is done for 2008
Ian M: Bye Matt
Jaan Kanellis: thanks for more info on the topic Matt
Swaroop: Ciao Matt !
Matt Cutts: I've got to head out. Thanks for hopping on the chat,
everyone--this was a lot of fun!
Eric Martindale: Thanks Matt! T
Darren Wyles: thanks
Fábio Ricotta: thank you
Brian Harnish: Later Matt- thank you for your time in facilitating
this awesome chat.
Matt Cutts: Talk to folks later..
Sasch Mayer: c ya
Laurent: Merci MC
Linda Farm: See you later!
gaurav doshi: ok matt
Jeganathan: thanks Matt for your time.
gaurav doshi: thanks alot for the informations
Rhea DrysdalePC: paid links... while it continues, what other factors
can be considered to counter as some good sites get taken down w/mass
updates?
Rhea DrysdalePC: any consideration of relevancy vs blanket no-no?
Rhea DrysdalePC: :)
Nick Wilsdon: :D
John Jones: Thanks John Mueller for your time and attentiveness to my
Q&A questions that I've directed to you specifically.
Barry Schwartz: but rhea is in the chat
Rhea DrysdalePC: haha
Rabin: SPAM AND QUALITY, thats an oxymoran!
Eric Martindale: Sharing is good. We trust Google to decide what to
share, but of course we want more info, faster. :)
Barry Schwartz: ;-)
Gary Campbell: Perhaps do the opposite, reward good sites and
webmasters with details
Jeremy Rivera: How much weight does domain age have on my rankings?
Should I change my primary domain name from a new name to an older
domain name? Or would that be suicide?
Gary Campbell: er details of potential issues.
Fábio Ricotta: Matt, what are the plans of Google to detect webspam
into another language like Portuguese(im Brazillian)? We see a lot of
duplicated content, spammy titles and hidden content. How Google is
dealing with minor languages like my Portuguese?
Jeremy: Spam, great for breakfast
Rhea DrysdalePC: gotta head out, have fun and great job Googlers!!!
MattD: One more time, here's the link to the feedback thread.
http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-chit-chat/browse...
Barry Schwartz: excellent
Barry Schwartz: u guys rock
MattD: Thanks again to everyone for coming!
Raffi: thanks all!
Barry Schwartz: down with yahoo and microsoft
Ian M: Here's a question - for the "you are a virus" messages, I get
those often when doing SEO audits on sites due to the complex wueries
- can you please use capcha more?
Jim McNelis: Thanks Google!
zach: Hey Matt. I'm UK alumni also. Too bad about them this year.
John Honeck: Buh Bye, thanks for the good work
Jesse Craword: Thank you!
Swaroop: stop tasing the competition :)
Gary Campbell: Fund and useful, thanks
Rhea DrysdalePC: bye
SchoolsGalore: Thanjks
Swaroop: bye thanks
webado - Christina: bye thanks
Hasit Ruparel: Thanks everyone @ G!
Terence: Thank you!
Brian Harnish: Thank you everyone!
Ian M: bye
Sasch Mayer: bye
SchoolsGalore: bye
jtbandes: Thanks guys
Nelu Lazar: Thanks!
Darren Wyles: thanks
gaurav doshi: thanks
Eric Martindale: later
Brian Ussery: Thanks again have a great weekend
Jenny Wiseman: thanks!
Liviu Taloi: bye
dockarl: Goodnight :)


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