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JLH  
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From: JLH
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:50:48 -0700
Local: Tues, Aug 14 2007 5:50 pm
Subject: Random Chit-Chat is boring lately
That's it.  Just another boring random chat, or was it chit?

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Sebastian  
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 More options Aug 15 2007, 4:25 am
From: Sebastian
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:25:44 -0000
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 4:25 am
Subject: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©
So lets develop a neat scandal, or at least a naughty rumor :)
Sebastian

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(2 users)  More options Aug 15 2007, 5:03 am
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:03:54 -0700
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 5:03 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©

> So lets develop a neat scandal, or at least a naughty rumor :)

How about Google treating Google Bookmarks as IBLs?

Makes sense.  There are many more users than sites - much more
democratic.


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Sebastian  
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 More options Aug 15 2007, 6:14 am
From: Sebastian
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:14:28 -0000
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 6:14 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©
They do. Seriously. My toolbar goes wild when I bookmark my viagra
spam in lots of thousands and with Google's newish BlitzCrawling I get
love from the SERPs in no time nowadays.
Sebastian

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Phil Payne  
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 More options Aug 15 2007, 7:24 am
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:24:31 -0700
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 7:24 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©

> My toolbar goes wild when I bookmark my viagra
> spam in lots of thousands and with Google's newish BlitzCrawling I get
> love from the SERPs in no time nowadays.

Great.  Where do I get some Viagra spam?

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Sebastian  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 15 2007, 7:43 am
From: Sebastian
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:43:15 -0000
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 7:43 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©

>From my bookmarks ;)

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 More options Aug 15 2007, 9:14 am
From: djc
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:14:01 -0700
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 9:14 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©
Does Viagra spam come in a can?

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Discussion subject changed to "Getting random viagra indexed" by JohnMu
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(1 user)  More options Aug 15 2007, 9:25 am
From: JohnMu
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:25:21 -0000
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 9:25 am
Subject: Getting random viagra indexed
Here's to random viagra!

I hear Gmail links are pretty good, if I post the URL can someone send
me a mail with it?

John


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 More options Aug 15 2007, 10:17 am
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 07:17:12 -0700
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 10:17 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©

> Does Viagra spam come in a can?

OT - have you seen the PRICE of Spam in cans lately?

In my local Co-op here in Woodseats it's more per lb than the sirlloin
steak on the fresh meat counter.

Huh?


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(1 user)  More options Aug 15 2007, 10:41 am
From: JLH
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 07:41:57 -0700
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 10:41 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©
I like to set up triangular bookmarking, just so Google can't catch
me.  I'll bookmark you, if you bookmark my buddies site, and he'll
bookmark me.

You do know that is why they pay you a dollar to download firefox with
the toolbar right? It's a transparent way to track the bookmarks.

And then there is this: http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/
I've got about 450 different aliases set up for that, it works great
for new site launches.  You'll rank for the "anchor text" used in the
bookmarks before Googlebot crawls the site, it shows as URL only but
will rank well.

I've been selling them at merely $1 per bookmark.

You do have to worry about bookmark leaking though, too many bookmarks
in an account and they'll loose their ranking power.  The other thing
to consider is bookmark creep, try to stay on topic or at least build
a good navigation structure with well formed folder names.

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Phil Payne  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 15 2007, 10:55 am
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 07:55:28 -0700
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 10:55 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©

> I like to set up triangular bookmarking, just so Google can't catch
> me.  I'll bookmark you, if you bookmark my buddies site, and he'll
> bookmark me.

OK.  So if I wanted to do this, I'd need some buddies?

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 More options Aug 15 2007, 11:09 am
From: JohnMu
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:09:40 -0000
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Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©
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 More options Aug 15 2007, 11:11 am
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:11:58 -0000
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 11:11 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©
Zug is the town where I live.

I love (NOT) how it's modern to mix english into german, especially
when you have know idea what you're writing. The things you find when
searching on Google :-)

http://www.zug.ch/gesundheitsamt/download/drugs_partydrogeninfo.pdf

John


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 More options Aug 15 2007, 11:21 am
From: cass-hacks
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:21:46 -0700
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 11:21 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©
Is "random viagra" as effective as the real thing?  Its like one of
those generic thingys, right?

>> I like to set up triangular bookmarking, just so Google can't catch
>> me.  I'll bookmark you, if you bookmark my buddies site, and he'll
>> bookmark me.
> OK.  So if I wanted to do this, I'd need some buddies?

You don't have to worry Phil, I have you in my "Google history" which
is MUCH more effective that any thtupit bookmarks!

Sheesh, rubes!

The sites I have Google bookmarked are only PageRank 4 but all the
sites I have in my special Google history are PageRank 6 or on their
way there.

You guys wonder why some peoples' sites tank?

It's because someone deleted their Google history links!

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Phil Payne  
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 More options Aug 15 2007, 11:23 am
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:23:28 -0700
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 11:23 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©

> Zug is the town where I live.

When I lived near Frankfurt my boss lived in Zug.  He went back for a
weekend playing soldiers.

Sometime on the Monday he came to me, put his hand over his face, and
sad: "Phil, ich hab' die Flinte im Kofferraum"

("I've got the musket in the boot.")

We arranged for him to go home smartish.

Only a bloody anti-tank rifle in eight sections!


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 More options Aug 15 2007, 11:31 am
From: cass-hacks
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:31:04 -0700
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 11:31 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©

> Only a bloody anti-tank rifle in eight sections!

:-()

I've heard that the Swiss Army all take their weapons home with them
when they are not on duty, is that true?

I'd hate to be the Captain of a Swiss submarine, "Honey, I'm coming
home for the weekend, cancel the pool party we had planned."  :-()


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 More options Aug 15 2007, 11:37 am
From: webado
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:37:39 -0000
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 11:37 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©
How about using Adsense in html emails? And send them out in bulk of
course.

Just think of the reach that can have when you're not just spmaming
thousands but offering them 20 Google ads to click on - which they
will for lack of something better to do or while they try to figure
out hwo to get off the mailing list.

Yep, this must be the answer to boosting my lonely 2  Adsense clicks.
Quick, who's got a good bulk mailing generator thingie? Oh, and a
mailng list too to go with it.

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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:11:31 -0700
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Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©

> How about using Adsense in html emails? And send them out in bulk of
> course.

Eww, that's wicked!

> Just think of the reach that can have when you're not just spmaming
> thousands but offering them 20 Google ads to click on - which they
> will for lack of something better to do or while they try to figure
> out hwo to get off the mailing list.

I'd LIKE it to be known I would NEVER consider doing anything like
that.

(I don't always get what I would like though)

> Yep, this must be the answer to boosting my lonely 2  Adsense clicks.
> Quick, who's got a good bulk mailing generator thingie? Oh, and a
> mailng list too to go with it.

I can whip up a php bulk e-mailer in a couple of minutes if someone
else has a mailing list although, why not just use the addresses that
spam comes from since many are likely addresses scavenged and just
used as the sender for a given spam instead of the recipient.
Besides, it's a percentage thingy anyhoo, ya win some, ya lose some.

And, if we hotwire the Adsense to list our spam sites, we can get
triple our money's worth if we spam Gmail accounts!

:-()


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 More options Aug 15 2007, 12:30 pm
From: JohnMu
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:30:50 -0000
Local: Wed, Aug 15 2007 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©

> I've heard that the Swiss Army all take their weapons home with them
> when they are not on duty, is that true?

Not all their weapons, but their rifles at least (ammo is in a sealed
can). They also have to go out for target practice twice a year (I
think). This week one of the Swiss guys in the office was lined up
right after work, he took the thing to the office and drove there on
his motorbike with it on his back. Scares you a bit when you come for
a visit, but after a while you get used to these people running around
with rifles strapped on their backs, hehehe. Nobody can take our
chocolate, muahahaha!

Emails with Adsense won't work (would be too easy to game, heh), but
emails pointing to adsense pages might. Actually kind of strange that
I haven't seen too many of those things... I guess you just earn more
by cutting out the middle man (Google and advertiser). There are a
gazillion affiliate spam things though (all those Rolex mails go
through a single producer but are sent out by anyone with a mailer, as
far as I know).

John


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From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:03:52 -0700
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Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©

> I've heard that the Swiss Army all take their weapons home with them
> when they are not on duty, is that true?
> I'd hate to be the Captain of a Swiss submarine, "Honey, I'm coming
> home for the weekend, cancel the pool party we had planned."  :-()

This guy lived in a small close with seven houses and eight garages,
one a bit bigger than the others.

Any two keys let them get the tank out.

The Germans call the Swiss the "Eidgenossen" - comrades in oath.

Less flatteringly, they call the British the "Inselaffen" - island
apes.


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 More options Aug 15 2007, 6:42 pm
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:42:08 -0000
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Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©
And they call the Austrians "Schluchtenscheisser" - sort of apes
who're shitting into canyons.

The most common term for the British in Germany is "Tommies" (of
course spelled "Tommys"), at least it was last time I looked. I like
"pommies" better, but outside the reach of the British Army of the
Rhine (Rhine Army in german, better known as BFG because BFBS is a
quite popular radio station) "Inselaffen" may be popular. Sigh.

Sebastian

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(1 user)  More options Aug 16 2007, 12:04 am
From: webado
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:04:35 -0700
Local: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 12:04 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©
Some guy  posted elsewhere recently that he's come up with a
"brilliant" way to monetise all the 404's he gets from visits to his
site caused by his site haveing been somehow spammed - or rather
associated with spammy notions like gambling and whatnot.
He said he's put adsense ads on his custom 404 and he's already made
money out of that.

To which I replied that is probably highly unlikely to work if the
page is displayed with a 404, as the Adsense robots won't be able to
check the legitimacy of the page where ads are supposedly being shown.

No further comment from that guy yet. I'd like to hope I called his
bluff - that he is only thinking he might do that and it might work as
he thinks it might.

If he's actually done that and it's worked as he said, I'll be a wee
bit peeved since in a month and a half of running adsense ads on 3
sites I have (which I don't mind defacing with ads LOL) all I have
managed to get have been 2 lone ad clicks for a grand total of $0.64.
I seriously doubt I'll see more than $1 out of it by the end of the
year at which point I'll remove the ads as part of a failed experiment
in passive wealth building (lol).

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 More options Aug 16 2007, 1:49 am
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Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 05:49:23 -0000
Local: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 1:49 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©
If it returns 404, it won't work (and it's against the ToS - getting
either his site blacklisted with Adsense or his account removed).
However, he could always have a 404 page that javascript redirects
elsewhere, eg a "topics" page. It all depends a lot on what kind of
visitors he's getting though. The SEO / webmaster types are paranoid
of clicking on ads :-).

John


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 More options Aug 16 2007, 1:52 am
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:52:07 -0700
Local: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 1:52 am
Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©
Totally off topic, but random, this guy is really amazingly high
rated.

http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?myprofile=

798,859,984 ratings and still 5 stars!

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 More options Aug 16 2007, 2:00 am
From: webado
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:00:05 -0700
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Subject: Re: Google going to penalize linked HTML entities like ™ and ©
That's not what he said he had. He called it his custom  404 page. Of
course  he didn't give me the url so I could check what he had.
He's either finagling or thinking of doing it. It's all in the intent,
isn't it? LOL

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