Many of us Webmaster Help Group guides have happily gotten to meet
Group members at various functions around the world. Over sandwiches
in San Jose. Salads in Stockholm. Sweets in Sydney. And it's been
super!
But some of you are hard to find and so we haven't had the pleasure of
chatting with you. Therefore, we've decided to visit you right through
your beloved monitor screen.
On Friday, March 28 at 9am PDT / noon EDT / 16:00 GMT, we'll be having
our first-ever all-group live chat, where you'll have a chance to hear
and see us answer some of your most pressing questions. All that's
required is a phone (we'll pay for the call), a sufficiently-modern
web browser, and an internet connection.
We'll be posting a "sticky note" with more details in the Random
Chitchat section of the Group a day or two before this online meetup,
and we're looking forward to chatting with you soon!
Talkatively yours,
Adam and the English Webmaster Help Guides
> Many of us Webmaster Help Group guides have happily gotten to meet
> Group members at various functions around the world. Over sandwiches
> in San Jose. Salads in Stockholm. Sweets in Sydney. And it's been
> super!
> But some of you are hard to find and so we haven't had the pleasure of
> chatting with you. Therefore, we've decided to visit you right through
> your beloved monitor screen.
> On Friday, March 28 at 9am PDT / noon EDT / 16:00 GMT, we'll be having
> our first-ever all-group live chat, where you'll have a chance to hear
> and see us answer some of your most pressing questions. All that's
> required is a phone (we'll pay for the call), a sufficiently-modern
> web browser, and an internet connection.
> We'll be posting a "sticky note" with more details in the Random
> Chitchat section of the Group a day or two before this online meetup,
> and we're looking forward to chatting with you soon!
> Talkatively yours,
> Adam and the English Webmaster Help Guides
1. Scraper sites copying the words around your search phrase, and
your top SERP plummeting to 10+ for strong site, or degrading to 500+
for weaker sites. When I change the content of my clients sites to
make the text unique again, the sites SERP's get back to normal. Why
is Google not fixing this, what steps is Google taking to get this
fixed? Does Google acknowledge this as a problem?
2. When a page is cached, but the words on that cache in quotes are
not able to be found in Google "first words searchphrase" - this has
happened for both home pages and inner pages (not necessarily a whole
website), and for me, has followed scraper sites copying content. Can
a reinclusion request get such pages back? How long should reinclusion
requests take? Why can't we have some response about reinclusion
requests - acknowledging that they have been actioned with a statement
as to what has been done. Would be great to have a queuing system that
gives an expected time of when it will be actioned - based on how many
are being actioned per day, and how many in the queue it should be
possible.
I almost bolted on the discussion on WMW as soon as I saw someone
mention unique descriptions, but I hung on...only to find this, "I
have about 10 sold links currently on the site and I wonder if that
could more likely be the cause"
DING DING DING. We have a winner. This group is full of formerly
well ranked sites tanking for selling and buying links.
A prime example of why WMW is worthless for diagnosing specific site
problems nobody actually ever looks at the site other than the poster
who of course believes that the site is totally white hat authority.
Try asking the same question here and the first response will by:
URL? Link funny business will be dug up in no time.
Reinclussion requests don't take 6 weeks by the way, if you haven't
improved in six weeks, try again because it got denied.
> 1. Scraper sites copying the words around your search phrase, and
> your top SERP plummeting to 10+ for strong site, or degrading to 500+
> for weaker sites. When I change the content of my clients sites to
> make the text unique again, the sites SERP's get back to normal. Why
> is Google not fixing this, what steps is Google taking to get this
> fixed? Does Google acknowledge this as a problem?
> 2. When a page is cached, but the words on that cache in quotes are
> not able to be found in Google "first words searchphrase" - this has
> happened for both home pages and inner pages (not necessarily a whole
> website), and for me, has followed scraper sites copying content. Can
> a reinclusion request get such pages back? How long should reinclusion
> requests take? Why can't we have some response about reinclusion
> requests - acknowledging that they have been actioned with a statement
> as to what has been done. Would be great to have a queuing system that
> gives an expected time of when it will be actioned - based on how many
> are being actioned per day, and how many in the queue it should be
> possible.
> Reinclussion requests don't take 6 weeks by the way, if you haven't
> improved in six weeks, try again because it got denied.
Would it be so hard to send the webmaster an email telling them that
it got approved/denied? For white/light grey hat webmasters, a
reinclusion request is something of a one-off event, so how are they
to know that they should resubmit after 6 weeks if nothing happens?
I'm sure Google gets piles of spammy/dishonest reinclusion requests
every day - but not all webmasters are spammers. Honest webmasters who
may have overstepped the boundaries genuinely want to fix the problems
on their site so they can rank again. I don't see the point in asking
webmasters to resubmit the same reinclusion request again if it's
going to be silently declined again for the same reasons as last time
- this wastes everyone's time.
Some interesting points raised. Personally i believe this could be a
bit of a winner for G. All well and good getting feed back from
various events around the world, but im not sure those events
represent the average or majority users. Either way i sure google will
learn a thing or two from us and we will also learn a thing or two. If
it goes well it would be nice to see it as a regular event perhaps
once a month or so.
> > Reinclussion requests don't take 6 weeks by the way, if you haven't
> > improved in six weeks, try again because it got denied.
> Would it be so hard to send the webmaster an email telling them that
> it got approved/denied? For white/light grey hat webmasters, a
> reinclusion request is something of a one-off event, so how are they
> to know that they should resubmit after 6 weeks if nothing happens?
> I'm sure Google gets piles of spammy/dishonest reinclusion requests
> every day - but not all webmasters are spammers. Honest webmasters who
> may have overstepped the boundaries genuinely want to fix the problems
> on their site so they can rank again. I don't see the point in asking
> webmasters to resubmit the same reinclusion request again if it's
> going to be silently declined again for the same reasons as last time
> - this wastes everyone's time.
> Many of us Webmaster Help Group guides have happily gotten to meet
> Group members at various functions around the world. Over sandwiches
> in San Jose. Salads in Stockholm. Sweets in Sydney. And it's been
> super!
> But some of you are hard to find and so we haven't had the pleasure of
> chatting with you. Therefore, we've decided to visit you right through
> your beloved monitor screen.
> On Friday, March 28 at 9am PDT / noon EDT / 16:00 GMT, we'll be having
> our first-ever all-group live chat, where you'll have a chance to hear
> and see us answer some of your most pressing questions. All that's
> required is a phone (we'll pay for the call), a sufficiently-modern
> web browser, and an internet connection.
> We'll be posting a "sticky note" with more details in the Random
> Chitchat section of the Group a day or two before this online meetup,
> and we're looking forward to chatting with you soon!
> Talkatively yours,
> Adam and the English Webmaster Help Guides
Nope. It's still March and I've done that one already ;) Plus this is
a short week, we had Monday off, so if I take Friday off for any
reason I'll be in everybody's cross hairs LOL
It's also a nasty time of the year, end of fiscal year, so all manner
of things can go belly up since the powers that be, in their infinite
wisdom, have decided to implement some drastic changes all over our
systems at this very time. I might get the blame if I'm not present to
commiserate with others on the fickleness of computer systems.... and
decisions from on top ;)
At least if I'm there I can join the others in grumbling against the
so and so from way up above the rest of us mere mortals whose
brilliant idea it was to make a million changes all at the same time
without adequate lead time. Some people are overly reliant on all the
presumed in-depth analysis that ought to prevent screw ups in
implementation. Ho-hum. I'd recommend spending much more effort on
Plan B and less on team spirit. LOL
> > Hey, somebody save a transcript for me please :)
> > On Mar 25, 10:27 pm, JLH wrote:
> > > "We'll be posting a "sticky note" with more details in the Random
> > > Chitchat section of the Group a day or two before this online
> > > meetup..."
> > > On Mar 25, 9:11 pm, victorcab wrote:
> > > > Where do we get the details? Phone?- Hide quoted text -
> Many of us Webmaster Help Group guides have happily gotten to meet
> Group members at various functions around the world. Over sandwiches
> in San Jose. Salads in Stockholm. Sweets in Sydney. And it's been
> super!
> But some of you are hard to find and so we haven't had the pleasure of
> chatting with you. Therefore, we've decided to visit you right through
> your beloved monitor screen.
> On Friday, March 28 at 9am PDT / noon EDT / 16:00 GMT, we'll be having
> our first-ever all-group live chat, where you'll have a chance to hear
> and see us answer some of your most pressing questions. All that's
> required is a phone (we'll pay for the call), a sufficiently-modern
> web browser, and an internet connection.
> We'll be posting a "sticky note" with more details in the Random
> Chitchat section of the Group a day or two before this online meetup,
> and we're looking forward to chatting with you soon!
> Talkatively yours,
> Adam and the English Webmaster Help Guides
I am CTO of WebTrain. www.webtrain.com.
I've been involved in the web arena far longer than Google itself.
Our new site is being dropped on April 30th: htttp://www.webtrain.com/default.asp I would like to take you up on your offer for site review.
We've applied many techniques to provide the user with best
navigation, the site utilizes complex CSS. It has (I beleive), the
best CSS menu you have ever seen.
It is W3C complient, 0 errors, and utilizes techniques to ensure menu
duplication does not affect content. Content is original, creative,
has tremendous depth, we've even had physcologists review the content
and employed proven selling techniques.
Keywords and such as based upon content, truly a fully optimized site,
complete with XML site map etc.
We have 600,000 members and have been in business for 7 years.
Review and comments would be appreciated.
