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JLH  
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 More options Sep 23 2007, 2:46 am
From: JLH
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:46:08 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 23 2007 2:46 am
Subject: bye
You've all been great!

 
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IceGiant  
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 More options Sep 23 2007, 5:12 am
From: IceGiant
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:12:24 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 23 2007 5:12 am
Subject: Re: bye
Wie bitte?
Le chiedo scusa?
Pardon!?
Cardota 'ch bardynu?
I beg your pardon?

What gives? You're not the latest GWHG victim to be stolen by Google
or something, are you?

> You've all been great!

As for that, I'm not so sure. I for one am terribly cantankerous and
grouchy in the morning before I have my first coffee, something which
seriously affects my overall greatness...

 
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beckysharpe  
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 More options Sep 23 2007, 6:56 am
From: beckysharpe
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:56:57 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 23 2007 6:56 am
Subject: Re: bye
Polyglots are allowed a little leeway in the morning - they just have
so much more to remember ;-)

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IceGiant  
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 More options Sep 23 2007, 8:17 am
From: IceGiant
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:17:52 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 23 2007 8:17 am
Subject: Re: bye

> Polyglots are allowed a little leeway in the morning - they just have
> so much more to remember ;-)

Don't you swear at me ;-)

To be fair, I only speak three of those, and one of these only
haltingly with a terrible accent; so I'm really only a Bilingual who
can also get by in French, I guess.
I had to look the Welsh & the Italian up; but whatever the case may
be, I am most DEFINITELY not an American ;-)

However... no matter which language you put it in, I'm still concerned
that JLH suddenly seems to have said his farewells rather suddenly and
unceremoniously...

I know the Cardinal asked the question:

> That said, Google is increasingly pointing webmasters this
> direction and I wonder (again) what would happen if the big time
> regulars here were to walk away?

in this thread a wee while ago

http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-Indexing/browse_...

but I rather thought it was a rhetorical one and did not need to be
put into practice in such a hurry...

Presonally, I'd rather not see another one of this group's
cornerstones drop out of the scene just like that.


 
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beckysharpe  
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 More options Sep 23 2007, 8:57 am
From: beckysharpe
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:57:32 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 23 2007 8:57 am
Subject: Re: bye
Sorry to say I didn't recognise the Welsh translation, even though I
can see the Principality on a clear day!

I'm very new here but am conscious of what a huge gap has been left by
John Mu's departure, and another departure by a senior poster would
hit the Group hard - I simply didn't know what to make of JLH's
enigmatic post. If the most authoritative posters are being recruited
then best of luck to them, and endless congratulations, but it would a
great loss to the Group.

Becky
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webado  
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 More options Sep 24 2007, 12:12 am
From: webado
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:12:14 -0000
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2007 12:12 am
Subject: Re: bye
Huh? What's up John?

What's this all about?

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Sebastian  
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 More options Sep 24 2007, 10:04 am
From: Sebastian
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:04:15 -0000
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2007 10:04 am
Subject: Re: bye
Would John really do that? I hope not.
Sebastian

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silverstall  
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 More options Sep 24 2007, 3:09 pm
From: silverstall
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:09:03 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2007 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: bye
Oh dear I hope this is only temporary as your valuable contributions
and advice will be sorely missed.

 
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Sebastian  
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 More options Sep 24 2007, 7:03 pm
From: Sebastian
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:03:06 -0000
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2007 7:03 pm
Subject: Re: bye
I fear that's persistent.
Sebastian

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Red Cardinal  
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 More options Sep 24 2007, 10:11 pm
From: Red Cardinal
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:11:18 -0000
Local: Mon, Sep 24 2007 10:11 pm
Subject: Re: bye

> Oh dear I hope this is only temporary as your valuable contributions
> and advice will be sorely missed.

Agreed

I shot John a mail, and for the moment I doubt he's coming back (I'm
not speaking for JLH in any capacity).
TBH I'm really beginning to know how he feels.

Rgds
Richard


 
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IceGiant  
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 More options Sep 25 2007, 5:43 am
From: IceGiant
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:43:30 -0700
Local: Tues, Sep 25 2007 5:43 am
Subject: Re: bye

> I shot John a mail, and for the moment I doubt he's coming back (I'm
> not speaking for JLH in any capacity).

Yup, I sent him an email on Sunday and he seemed pretty disillusioned
with the place in his reply.

> TBH I'm really beginning to know how he feels.

Well... I've made the crack about being abandoned behind enemy lines
in jest before now, but it's certainly beginning to feel like that in
here at times.

 
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cristina  
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 More options Sep 25 2007, 10:55 am
From: cristina
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:55:00 -0700
Subject: Re: bye
disillusioned? but he wrote that all have been great!

JLH, please come back.

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IceGiant  
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 More options Sep 25 2007, 11:36 am
From: IceGiant
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:36:30 -0000
Local: Tues, Sep 25 2007 11:36 am
Subject: Re: bye

> disillusioned? but he wrote that all have been great!

Yes; it's not actually us personally he's disillusioned with
methinks...

 
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Red Cardinal  
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 More options Sep 26 2007, 2:34 am
From: Red Cardinal
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:34:09 -0000
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2007 2:34 am
Subject: Re: bye
How about an open and frank discussion - what does everyone feel about
the group?

Adam - if you read this perhaps you could start the discussion?

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cristina  
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 More options Sep 26 2007, 9:31 am
From: cristina
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:31:16 -0000
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2007 9:31 am
Subject: Re: bye
 
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Red Cardinal  
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 More options Sep 26 2007, 9:52 am
From: Red Cardinal
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:52:27 -0000
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2007 9:52 am
Subject: Re: bye
Great interview

Well done John - kudos to you.

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Adam Lasnik Google employee  
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 More options Sep 27 2007, 12:58 am
From: Adam Lasnik
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:58:58 -0000
Local: Thurs, Sep 27 2007 12:58 am
Subject: Re: bye
John,

Just read your interview, and before I saw that, I had drafted a long
followup note to our recent comments-exchange, I think it's better for
me to scrap that and be concise.

I've really appreciated having you on the forum here, and it's clear
I'm not alone.  I'm sad at how you perceive our interests and
direction as an organization, but optimistic that we'll win you back
not through our words but our actions.  I will, however, briefly point
to some words from my colleague Susan:
http://twopieceset.blogspot.com/2007/09/two-weeks-in-europe.html

She took a moment to highlight a recent trip she and I took to our
European headquarters in Dublin.  We went so we could more closely
brainstorm with our international search quality peers there to spread
the communications love in ultimately dozens of languages.  Susan and
I and other search quality folks go to conferences a few times a year,
yes, but by far are spending more of our time trying to make webmaster
communications scalable internationally.

But I digress... and I guess I'm not very good at being concise.  This
isn't about us, it's about you.  And you, JLH, are welcome back
anytime.  Take care, and thanks for all of your contributions.


 
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IceGiant  
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 More options Sep 28 2007, 2:54 am
From: IceGiant
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:54:33 -0000
Local: Fri, Sep 28 2007 2:54 am
Subject: Re: bye

> How about an open and frank discussion - what does everyone feel about
> the group?

> Adam - if you read this perhaps you could start the discussion?

I'd buy that for a dollar...

Good plan


 
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Discussion subject changed to "Indexing newsgroups, especially Microsoft" by Snow
Snow  
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 More options Oct 3 2007, 9:34 pm
From: Snow
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:34:34 -0000
Local: Wed, Oct 3 2007 9:34 pm
Subject: Indexing newsgroups, especially Microsoft
Hi Adam

I just read your faq re groups, webcrawling, etc.  I looked but did
not see a way to contact you there but a link to other posts by you.
So I selected one (below) and am replying to it to reach you.

It appears to me that boogle searches of the groups and web indicae
you are the Googel employee most responsible for Google's indexing new
groups.  Granted that when I findly get to the faq it reads as tho it
is just about you web site crawling and web page indexing and that
that is separate from newgroup type crawling / indexing.

If you are not the right person then please tell me who is and furnish
their email address. Or forward the following question to them (or
answer it yourself if you are the right person).

I made several entries into a microsoft winME general discussion
newsgroup today. Several times thereafter, I used your groups search
engine to search for it but I never found it. Do you crawl newsgroups?
How often do you crawl microsoft.public newsgroups? Are any
Microsoft.public newsgroups NOT crawled? If so, why?

Thank you for your consideration.
Bob Cooper
Oceanside, CA


 
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Sebastian  
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 More options Oct 4 2007, 12:41 pm
From: Sebastian
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:41:14 -0000
Local: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 12:41 pm
Subject: bye
Snow, please don't hijack threads.

Unimportant news groups might not be crawled in real time.

Sebastian

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